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You people need to stop typing Ernest and Miller without putting "The Cat" in between.
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Salt In The Wound posted:You people need to stop typing Ernest and Miller without putting "The Cat" in between. Why? Is somebody gonna call their mother?
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Apr 3, 2010 04:06
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Flynn beat Miller, who beat Muta. Flynn>Muta.
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Beef Jerky Robot posted:Flynn beat Miller, who beat Muta. Flynn>Muta. Flynn has also beaten Carlito, who has beaten Cena, so using the transient properties, Jerry Flynn > the entire WWE. 
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Davros1 posted:Flynn has also beaten Carlito, who had beaten Cena, so using the transient properties, Jerry Flynn > the entire WWE.  
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Marcade posted:Ernest Miller
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Triple H tore his quad right before the Invasion storyline, effectively ending the Two Man Power Trip and beginning the Invasion. Do you feel Triple H's presence during Invasion would have affected, either positively or negatively, the way the storyline progressed? With whom would he have feuded with? Would Austin's defection have made a bigger impact given the Two Man Power Trip history? Certainly some things, like the poor reception and delivery of a Buff Bagwell/Booker T main event and the toxic nature of the WCW brand, can not be excused, but one must consider, given Triple H's respect for the business and influence with Vince, if things may have executed themselves better. Thoughts? Similarly, Chris Benoit, perhaps one of the most beloved wrestlers to come out of WCW, missed the Invasion due to neck surgery. Would his presence as a part of the Alliance solidified their status as a legitimate threat? OppositeAstronomer fucked around with this message at 05:59 on Apr 3, 2010 |
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chazburgr posted:Triple H tore his quad right before the Invasion storyline, effectively ending the Two Man Power Trip and beginning the Invasion. Do you feel Triple H's presence during Invasion would have affected, either positively or negatively, the way the storyline progressed? With whom would he have feuded with? Would Austin's defection have made a bigger impact given the Two Man Power Trip history? Certainly some things, like the poor reception and delivery of a Buff Bagwell/Booker T main event and the toxic nature of the WCW brand, can not be excused, but one must consider, given Triple H's respect for the business and influence with Vince, if things may have executed themselves better. Thoughts? I think Triple H's presence could only have helped the Invasion. He was on such an incredible roll at that point that anything he touched instantly got massively over. IIRC, he was going to be the centerpiece of the new, relaunched WCW.
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How do wrestlers work out on the road? Do they have a "gym truck" or do they just hit up the local gym for a day or two?
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Benign posted:How do wrestlers work out on the road? Do they have a "gym truck" or do they just hit up the local gym for a day or two? They do a bunch of HGH and use local gyms.
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chazburgr posted:Triple H tore his quad right before the Invasion storyline, effectively ending the Two Man Power Trip and beginning the Invasion. Do you feel Triple H's presence during Invasion would have affected, either positively or negatively, the way the storyline progressed? It couldn't have hurt anything, but I doubt it would've made a real difference at all.
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sportsgenius86 posted:It couldn't have hurt anything, but I doubt it would've made a real difference at all. Hunter would have squashed some WCW guys. Pretty much it. I do like the idea of HHH leading WCW, though. That's his stuff.
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I was going to ask why Jim Cornette isn't with WWE any more (cause man, that guy can cut a promo), and then I watched this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pieX_Pd1b9A
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Orgophlax posted:I was going to ask why Jim Cornette isn't with WWE any more (cause man, that guy can cut a promo), and then I watched this: That was awesome.
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Orgophlax posted:I was going to ask why Jim Cornette isn't with WWE any more (cause man, that guy can cut a promo), and then I watched this: Except Vince was letting him do this. In fact, didn't this turn out to be a build to that NWA "Invasion" with him and Jarrett? Vince's attitudes have changed since then, so he probably wouldn't allow it now but I think back then Vince was eating it up.
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Can you suggest some good/funny shoot interviews? There are plenty online but I just dunno where to start.
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Orgophlax posted:I was going to ask why Jim Cornette isn't with WWE any more (cause man, that guy can cut a promo), and then I watched this: EDIT: welp, looks like LightsGameraAction beat me to it
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Orgophlax posted:I was going to ask why Jim Cornette isn't with WWE any more (cause man, that guy can cut a promo), and then I watched this: No one, and I mean no one, can talk poo poo like Jim Cornette.
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Orgophlax posted:I was going to ask why Jim Cornette isn't with WWE any more (cause man, that guy can cut a promo), and then I watched this: I DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS! I WANT TO SEE STUFF THAT DOESN'T SELL! I WANT TO SEE CALENDARS THAT STILL SAY 1986! I WANT TO SEE THE BERLIN WALL! I WANT ANTHONY MICHAEL HALL TO BE THE BIGGEST MOVIE STAR IN AMERICA! I WANT TO TURN FROM A GREAT MIDNIGHT EXPRESS MATCH TO SEE CROCKETT AND TUBBS TAKIN DOWN A NEW FOE! I WANT AIDS TO BE CALLED GRID! I WANNA SEE KEVIN ARNOLD CHASE THAT ADORABLE WINNIE COOPER GIRL! I WANNA WATCH ALF DO HILARIOUS THINGS TO UPSET WILLIE TANNER!
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To defend Cornette, he always says he wants to see the matches with the psychology of the 80s with wrestles born in the 80s. He's very against any promotion featuring older talent. And while he does have a place in his heart for the past, he's a big supporter for new ideas and evolving wrestling. Just not the none wrestling poo poo that WWE likes to shove down fans throats. "If I wanted to watch porn I'd watch porn. I want to see wrestling"
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Beer_Suitcase posted:Can you suggest some good/funny shoot interviews? There are plenty online but I just dunno where to start. Straight Shooting: Raven & Sandman vol.1 (if you can find it) CM Punk & Samoa Joe (LARIAAAT LARIAAAT KOJIMAA!) CM Punk & Colt Cabana Jim Cornette & Percy Pringle Percy Pringle Vol.1 & 2 I haven't seen the Cornette/Heenan ones yet,but I'm sure they're awesome.
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sportsgenius86 posted:I DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS! nope
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I am still utterly surprised that the WWE was ever at a point where they let a dude come on their show and say "OUR COMPETITION SUCKS, WE SUCK, THESE DUDES SUCK, WHY CAN'T WE BE WRESTLERS AGAIN?!"
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Vince Russo.
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is there a video posted anywhere of Shawn freaking out over the Elimination Chamber playset?
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marsupialicity posted:is there a video posted anywhere of Shawn freaking out over the Elimination Chamber playset? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AxogCo4dV4
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Beer_Suitcase posted:Can you suggest some good/funny shoot interviews? There are plenty online but I just dunno where to start. Watch any shoot with Jim Cornette, he's like a wrestling Rain Man, he tells good stories and some people hate the poo poo he says, but it's entertaining as all hell. There's one in particular called Guest Booker with Jim Cornette where they go over the invasion angle that was really interesting. Kevin Kelly did a shoot with someone that was pretty good too, talked a lot about the goings on behind the scenes at WWF during the attitude era. The only information I have on where it came from is a "dojwrestling.com" watermnark on it, but a google search turned up nothing. The Dudley's RFvideo* shoot is real good too, a lot about ECW and their WWF run, Devon mostly sits there and agrees with Bubba the whole time, but it's a lot better than it sounds, Bubba Ray is a drat good communicator. Shawn Michaels RFvideo* shoot is pretty good, nothing too personal, just a rundown of his entire career. He holds a lot back, but it's still interesting. Mean Gene Okerlund's RFvideo* shoot is real good too, check that out. Kurt Angle's RFvideo* shoot is alright. RFvideo* also does some "best of" videos, but the only one I've seen I "Got Heat" from 2008 and it's excerpts of different interviews (Cornette, Nasty Boys, Piper Vader, Sid, Newjack, etc...) about confrontations, horrible stories etc... *In no way am I endorsing the giving of money to the pedo that runs (ran?) rfvideo
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sportsgenius86 posted:I DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS! Bah, everyone knows poo poo was better before the Gold Dust Trio and their "Slam Bang Western Style Wrestling" nonesense.
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So I only started tuning back into wrestling in 2009 and as a result I missed the glorious rise of the Viper. What were Orton's best matches prior to 2009 that you would consider essential for a fan? Also,if anyone could tell me what the good legend killer matches were that would be appreciated, from the sounds of it some were considered very average. Matches with excessive amounts of violence are encouraged. One more question, was Orton every a face and not just a well liked heel? Sue Denim fucked around with this message at 13:54 on Apr 4, 2010 |
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Sue Denim posted:One more question, was Orton every a face and not just a well liked heel? He was a face after he won the title at Summerslam 2004 and was kicked out of Evolution. He was ok at first, but became extremely bland and boring until he turned heel before Wrestlemania 21 by RKOing Stacy Kiebler You'll like his Backlash 2004 match with Mick Foley since it was a legend killer match plus had tons of violence. One of the better matches of the year and might be the match that turned him into a star Carlton Banks fucked around with this message at 14:47 on Apr 4, 2010 |
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When Shawn Michaels delivers Sweet Chin Music, there's a hell of a noise when it connects...what makes that sound?
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Ninpo posted:When Shawn Michaels delivers Sweet Chin Music, there's a hell of a noise when it connects...what makes that sound? Thigh slappin
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Carlton Banks posted:He was a face after he won the title at Summerslam 2004 and was kicked out of Evolution. He was ok at first, but became extremely bland and boring until he turned heel before Wrestlemania 21 by RKOing Stacy Kiebler Orton started as a babyface, but then he hurt his shoulder. While he was out they started doing RNN updates where he would do heelish face updates about the status of his shoulder. His second face run, post-Evolution, failed because they made him too whitebread. Beer_Suitcase posted:Can you suggest some good/funny shoot interviews? There are plenty online but I just dunno where to start. The Raven/Sandman shoots are just two weirdos shooting the poo poo in a good way. Secrets of the Ring with Raven is a great five-volume look at the business, though you may not care as much since you wrestled. Still entertaining though. Punk/Cabana is good but Punk/Joe is way better.
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WeaselWeaz posted:Orton started as a babyface, but then he hurt his shoulder. While he was out they started doing RNN updates where he would do heelish face updates about the status of his shoulder. I remember those. He also had a tendency to use the RNN updates to interrupt a Shawn Michaels backstage segment of some kind.
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Sionistic posted:Thigh slappin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yygfRriIf4U
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Sue Denim posted:What were Orton's best matches prior to 2009 that you would consider essential for a fan? I'll just repost this that I put up a couple of days ago when someone complained about him: OneThousandMonkeys posted:Great Randy matches I'd recommend:
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Two questions: When did smarky chants begin to take hold in WWE? AND How often have Cena, Orton, Batista, Triple H, Edge and Undertaker been simultaneously healthy?
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Kerck Pnameless posted:Two questions:
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Smarky chants and the rise of the internet pretty much go hand-in-hand
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Kerck Pnameless posted:Two questions: Is Edge really that injury prone that he needs to be lumped in there? Hell, I don't think Triple H is even as bad as the rest of them. But I think a few times between 02-04 at least they were all there together. Observational Question: Has Vince Russo ever gone in front of a camera NOT dressed like he's still living in his parents' basement?
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