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When, roughly, were the first barbed-wire matches?
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LightsGameraAction posted:Is Edge really that injury prone that he needs to be lumped in there? Yes, Edge seems to go on the DL quite often. ANd I know its because of all the years of his high-risk style, but it also seems to derail him at the worst times. But all those wrestlers in the list were at WM 21.
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Apr 5, 2010 01:26
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WeaselWeaz posted:Orton started as a babyface, but then he hurt his shoulder. While he was out they started doing RNN updates where he would do heelish face updates about the status of his shoulder. Not so much heelish, but overboard babyface updates, similar to the vignettes before Kurt Angle's debut. Like, making viewers hate him by him telling them how much they love and miss him. oldpainless posted:Yes, Edge seems to go on the DL quite often. ANd I know its because of all the years of his high-risk style, but it also seems to derail him at the worst times. But all those wrestlers in the list were at WM 21. It's not how often he gets injured, but he's had 3 or 4 long term injuries, whereas Batista is out every third month with a new torn muscle or sprain.
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Apr 5, 2010 01:27
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CSammich posted:
I feel like 3 or 4 long-term injuries over the span of Edge's career is unfortunate but not totally unacceptable given how long how long he's been at it. It's at least not like Batista whose muscles are apparently made of tissue paper.
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Apr 5, 2010 01:41
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CSammich posted:Not so much heelish, but overboard babyface updates, similar to the vignettes before Kurt Angle's debut. Like, making viewers hate him by him telling them how much they love and miss him. Yeah, I meant babyface heel. Kerck Pnameless posted:Two questions: 1) 1999, when the Attitude era was full-blown and everyone was taking things from ECW, whether they were Bischoff or an internet fan. 2) Cena was a heel the fans loved, Orton was a babyface, Batista was Reverend D-Von's bitch, Triple H was in the main event, Edge was an OK babyface who people thought was better as a heel, and Undertaker hasn't been healthy since 1998 anyway.
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Apr 5, 2010 02:40
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WeaselWeaz posted:
You Screwed Bret? That counts as a smarky chant, no?
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Curtis of Nigeria posted:You Screwed Bret? That counts as a smarky chant, no? No. Vince talked Montreal on TV and used it as the focal point for his heel character. Hebner screwing Bret was also brought up on commentary by Jim Ross.
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Apr 5, 2010 03:47
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I might call "first smarky chants" at the Mabel match at King of the Ring '95 with the "EC-Dub" chants at the height of WWF's unwatchability.
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Apr 5, 2010 08:02
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Just curious if its ever happened. Has TNA ever recieved a 5 star match? I figure Daniels / Joe / Styles the first go round was a good canadite for it but not sure if I ever heard of a match recieving the infamous 5 stars.
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Apr 5, 2010 08:53
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EyeRChris posted:Just curious if its ever happened. Just one. 9/11/05 AJ Styles vs. Samoa Joe vs. Christopher Daniels (TNA Unbreakable 2005) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X64B7SK4-XQ
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Apr 5, 2010 08:58
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The A-Team Van posted:Just one. I thought Joe/Angle-Fake MMA at Lockdown got 5 Stars too.
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Apr 5, 2010 08:59
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EyeRChris posted:Just curious if its ever happened. yeah, same match edit; joe/angle didn't get 5
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KungFu Grip posted:I thought Joe/Angle-Fake MMA at Lockdown got 5 Stars too. Pulled it from here
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KungFu Grip posted:I thought Joe/Angle-Fake MMA at Lockdown got 5 Stars too. I believe it got ****1/2 from Meltzer.
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Apr 5, 2010 09:09
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Beer_Suitcase posted:Can you suggest some good/funny shoot interviews? There are plenty online but I just dunno where to start. Kevin Nash has a couple and although they're pretty much the same (as I recall), they're very funny. He's a great storyteller and just a genuinely funny guy. He generally doesn't shy away from questions and is pretty straightforward. Goes through his career, backstage shenanigans, etc.
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Apr 5, 2010 16:16
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Erdnase posted:When, roughly, were the first barbed-wire matches? The Sheepherders (Bushwackers) and Invader I & Invader III had one on the 21st of September 1985 in Peurto Rico, but I'm sure there must be some earlier than that. They just wrapped the ropes rather than replacing them completely.
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Theshby posted:The Sheepherders (Bushwackers) and Invader I & Invader III had one on the 21st of September 1985 in Peurto Rico, but I'm sure there must be some earlier than that. They just wrapped the ropes rather than replacing them completely. All wire matches in the state were done with wrapped ropes until Japan started taking the ropes down and replacing them with wire.
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I don't know if this is the best thread for this, but it's still something i am curious about. What is up with results of wrestling events being all up themselves when someone gets smacked in the head with a chair? Yeah i know it can be a bad thing, but it serves no purpose trying to hold a wrestling company to account for it when it's just an independent website that does it. It was never this bad before the Benoit thing and i miss how things used to be with that. If a chair shot happens, fair enough that its in the results of a website that writes them up. I just wish i didn't have to see the smarky crap (half a paragraph of one results i'm reading is dedicated to TNA booking) and the UNPROTECTED CHAIRSHOTS! crap when reading results. Maybe the question is what is a good website that doesn't have this? Not witty or funny stuff either, just an explanation of the events that are occurring on screen without any commentary about a wrestler being green or booking being crazy or whatever.
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Apr 6, 2010 06:01
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benhobbys posted:I don't know if this is the best thread for this, but it's still something i am curious about. I'm not sure I have the first clue what you're saying or asking about?
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Apr 6, 2010 06:45
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TL posted:I'm not sure I have the first clue what you're saying or asking about? I believe he's asking if there are any wrestling websites where people send in results without putting smarky remarks after everything that happened.
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Apr 6, 2010 06:47
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CVagts posted:I believe he's asking if there are any wrestling websites where people send in results without putting smarky remarks after everything that happened. sescoops.com is the one I sometimes go to and I've yet to see anything too smarky.
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Apr 6, 2010 06:57
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People get upset about unprotected chair shots because it causes lasting damage to the recipient. Negative reaction has gotten stronger lately because of Benoit and a seeming rise in PCS. Wrestlers have enough to worry about with road wear and joint/back injuries, and reducing or outright stopping head shots is a small price to pay for these guys to live slightly healthier lives.
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Apr 6, 2010 07:21
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I go to Wrestleview, generally just read the basic results (who beat who), and if Wrestlehut is marking out over something I try to read up on what about (or just find video online) if I haven't seen it.
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:I'll just repost this that I put up a couple of days ago when someone complained about him:
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Apr 6, 2010 13:39
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OneThousandMonkeys' post is fantastic. To add, here is another great Orton match from Bad Blood 2004 for the Intercontinental Championship. I couldn't find it on YouTube so here it is on Dailymotion. Promo Randy Orton vs Shelton Benjamin
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Apr 7, 2010 02:21
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WeaselWeaz posted:The Raven/Sandman shoots are just two weirdos shooting the poo poo in a good way. To be slightly more accurate, Raven and Sandman are what we all mean when we say that wrestling's carny roots are still evident. That said, they're both hilarious, even if Raven has the attention span of a dragonfly and Sandman has an annoying laugh.
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Apr 7, 2010 04:49
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oldpainless posted:Yes, Edge seems to go on the DL quite often. ANd I know its because of all the years of his high-risk style, but it also seems to derail him at the worst times. But all those wrestlers in the list were at WM 21. 24 and 26 too.
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Apr 7, 2010 06:27
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My wife and I were watching Monday Night Wars DVD and we were talking about X-Pac and she asked were they just good friends why aren't they anymore? From what I've heard it just seems like when HHH left DX and joined the corporation there was some sort of falling out. Does anyone know exactly or close to exactly what happened to make Road Dogg, Billy Gunn, Chyna and x-pac hate him?
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Apr 7, 2010 20:33
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Spikeguy posted:My wife and I were watching Monday Night Wars DVD and we were talking about X-Pac and she asked were they just good friends why aren't they anymore? From what I've heard it just seems like when HHH left DX and joined the corporation there was some sort of falling out. Does anyone know exactly or close to exactly what happened to make Road Dogg, Billy Gunn, Chyna and x-pac hate him? I believe HHH and X-Pac are still somewhat friendly but Im sure HHH doesnt have much time being a main-eventer and a McMahon. I think Chyna and HHH had a nasty break-up when Hunter got with Stephanie so Chyna feels somewhat jilted by the whole thing. I think Gunn and Road Dogg just say HHH got a real big ego and became an rear end, in their view. They've talked about it some in shoot videos.
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Apr 7, 2010 21:13
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oldpainless posted:I believe HHH and X-Pac are still somewhat friendly but Im sure HHH doesnt have much time being a main-eventer and a McMahon. I'm fairly certain Chyna has said she felt she was forced out of the company by Stephanie McMahon when she started dating Triple H too.
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Spikeguy posted:My wife and I were watching Monday Night Wars DVD and we were talking about X-Pac and she asked were they just good friends why aren't they anymore? From what I've heard it just seems like when HHH left DX and joined the corporation there was some sort of falling out. Does anyone know exactly or close to exactly what happened to make Road Dogg, Billy Gunn, Chyna and x-pac hate him? There have been accounts that when Road Dogg and Billy Gunn showed up at a House Show as part of their retarded "Let's go to war with John Paul Levesque and Michael Hickenbottom!" storyline, Triple H saw them and waved a happy hello. Also when X-Pac was at a house show, Triple H and HBK called him into the ring and they did the DX schtick together and people were going crazy. I saw a bit of one of Road Dogg/Billy's shoot videos where they said that they enjoyed being in DX because they got paid a shitload but that 90% of their time involved walking back and forth behind Triple H for 10 minutes while he did a promo. I don't think they have anything particular against Triple H other than aspects of things they could use for those worked-shoot promos that Russo loves so much. Chyna, on the other hand, got dumped by Triple H who then dated, married and had kids with Stephanie McMahon while she quit WWE over money and ended up a drug-addled wreck so she is probably understandably bitter over the whole thing.
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Apr 7, 2010 23:34
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The New Age Outlaws shoot interview is amazing, everyone should watch it.
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Apr 7, 2010 23:40
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maniacripper posted:The New Age Outlaws shoot interview is amazing, everyone should watch it. From what I can tell it involves Road Dogg doing a lot of talking and Billy Gunn eating a lot of burgers and nodding.
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Apr 7, 2010 23:45
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Jerusalem posted:From what I can tell it involves Road Dogg doing a lot of talking and Billy Gunn eating a lot of burgers and nodding. So it was pretty much a standard New Age Outlaws promo.
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Apr 7, 2010 23:48
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Jerusalem posted:From what I can tell it involves Road Dogg doing a lot of talking and Billy Gunn eating a lot of burgers and nodding. Yes, and Billy laughs a lot too. The Outsiders and Duddley Boys are the same way, with Nash and Bubba doing most of the talking. All 3 are worth the watch though.
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Jerusalem posted:From what I can tell it involves Road Dogg doing a lot of talking and Billy Gunn eating a lot of burgers and nodding. They also insist that Montreal was a work.
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Apr 8, 2010 00:22
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LividLiquid posted:In much the same way that The Prestige is about Wolverine and Batman fighting with magic and David Bowie shooting lightning everywhere, yeah. It is and I'll brook no disagreement!
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Apr 8, 2010 00:32
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Jerusalem posted:It is and I'll brook no disagreement!
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LividLiquid posted:Who's disagreeing? Edison 
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