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Does anyone have experience switching from a 4x10 to a 2x15? looking to trade up from a hartke 4.5XL to a Mesa Boogie 215. same GK 400rb until I find an svt *lol*
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DrChu posted:Just curious, does anybody actually use the "Active" input if using active basses? My current Stingray (and the previous one as well) is not really any louder than my passive Precision or Jazz unless you dime all the EQ controls, the L2000 I used to have even at its loudest setting didn't overload the input, and some generic six string I used to have was about the same. With my active Hohner through the No. 1 input on my Acoustic 370 head I would get some mild distortion if I really dug in. I didn't mind it too much at the time and used as part of my playing when I was a teenager. With hindsight though it probably sounded horrible. black_mastermind posted:...my old Acoustic 370 head... Wassup A370 buddy? 
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Apr 7, 2010 05:09
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DrChu posted:Just curious, does anybody actually use the "Active" input if using active basses? My current Stingray (and the previous one as well) is not really any louder than my passive Precision or Jazz unless you dime all the EQ controls, the L2000 I used to have even at its loudest setting didn't overload the input, and some generic six string I used to have was about the same. My practice head is a tank of a Crate BT-350. Using the -15dB input makes the EQ and gain knob actually usable.
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Apr 7, 2010 05:35
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warwick5s posted:
I absolutely love nylon tapewounds on my fretless.
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Apr 7, 2010 07:03
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So I'm at the position where I need to buy a serious bass amp - I'm looking at a head/cab setup and I had a couple questions. The head I'm looking at is the Acoustic B200H. I've played it at Guitar Center before and it sounds real nice, and the indie pop band I'm in is not particularly loud so I think 200 watts will be enough. So I need a cab. I'm just kind of in the dark about the wattage rating on cabs - for example I'm looking at a 2x10 cab on craigslist that's 150 watts. Would I run the risk of blowing the speakers with a 200 watt head? The speakers are also rated at 8ohms, whereas the head is 4ohms. I'm not entirely sure how impedance works either. Should I be looking for a different cab with a higher wattage?
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Apr 7, 2010 22:04
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Kynetx posted:Try dialing out some of the low-end and use the bridge pickup maybe? 
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Apr 7, 2010 22:24
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You should be ok -- I don't think the cab will be able to pull more than 150 out of that head at 8 ohms. If it was rated 150 at 4 ohms I would look elsewhere
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Apr 7, 2010 22:25
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Pablo Gigante posted:So I'm at the position where I need to buy a serious bass amp - I'm looking at a head/cab setup and I had a couple questions. And the 8/4 ohms need to be matched up if that is your only head/cab.
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Apr 7, 2010 22:26
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Pablo Gigante posted:The head I'm looking at is the Acoustic B200H. I've played it at Guitar Center before and it sounds real nice, and the indie pop band I'm in is not particularly loud so I think 200 watts will be enough. I am no engineer, but I think the general consensus is that it's worse to underpower rather than overpower. If you have your underpowered amp cranked up and it just doesn't have the juice to move your speaker cone at the desired volume then it can result in physical damage (like tearing the voice coil). I suppose the same can be said that if you've got your overpowered amp cranked way up and it tries to move your speaker cone at an excessive volume then it can also damage it. But you're a lot less likely to run into trouble if you have sufficient wattage; you won't have to crank your overpowered amp all the way up to get to your desired volume. That said, 200w @ 4ohms is pretty low and it will put out even less at 8ohms. If you're going with the 150w cabinet then you'll probably be fine. I still think you will want more eventually. EDIT: Actually, looking at the math on this site, that amp probably only puts out 100w at 8ohms.. Bourbon fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Apr 7, 2010 |
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Apr 7, 2010 22:29
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Firstly, there is no need to "match" impedances between the head and the cab. You just have to take care not to present too little impedance to an amp. If it's rated for a minimum of 4 ohms, try not to have less than that or you'll run into clipping, overheating and protection-related shutdowns. Damage due to under powering is a myth. I won't get into the subtleties of it, but if you are clipping an amp hard you are NOT under powering the driver, you are OVER powering it. When you flatten out the crest of the wave, you are increasing the average power you are delivering to the speaker. When you're clipping, you're getting the same sound pressure out of the cabinet, but you're also getting nasty harmonics and increased heat. 200 watts is sufficient for a backline application, assuming you're also being amplified through the mains. Pablo Gigante, if the cab you're looking at is a 2x10, chances are it's 4 ohm, unless it has 16-ohm drivers but that's kind unusual. What's the make & model? You should look around Craigslist for a head you can do a hell of a lot better than that Acoustic if you go used. Kynetx fucked around with this message at 06:47 on Apr 8, 2010 |
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Apr 8, 2010 06:45
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drat I love cream pickup covers... I need this bass.
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Pablo Gigante posted:So I'm at the position where I need to buy a serious bass amp - I'm looking at a head/cab setup and I had a couple questions. http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gallien-Krueger-MB115-1x15-200W-Ultralight-Bass-Combo-Amp?sku=581052 I love my GK MB210, and they also make a 115 version. 200 watts, 1 15" speaker, in your price range and less than 35 pounds. Of course, if you're set on a head/cab disregard. I love it whenever I play through it and whenever I have to pick it up. Also, coupon code "FILE" will get you 15% off at Musicians Friend through this weekend (Thanks, Gorilla).
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Apr 9, 2010 14:50
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Narwhale posted:35 pounds At my college, we have a small room in the instrument cages that is dedicated for student-owned uprights. A month or so ago, an student taking electric lessons decided to store his Ampeg SVT 6x10 rig in the room, taking up about half of the space that was previously mine.  Since it was so accessible, I decided to give it a spin with my fretless 5. I was disappointed - it had a noticeable amount of distortion to it, but after checking the settings I am pretty sure it wasn't due to having too much gain or anything like that. I know that isn't much to go by, but I'm curious if anyone might know what could be wrong with the amp.
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Apr 9, 2010 15:27
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Pansies. I'm easily moving around 200lbs.+ from show to show by myself several times a month up and down stairs. And I don't complain because I know it'll be much worse once I get an all-tube head.
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Apr 9, 2010 15:40
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Loading in/out is the worst part of playing shows. I hate it so, so much.
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Apr 9, 2010 18:03
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I've played a couple of back-to-back shows and they're totally awesome. It turns a 8-10 hour ordeal with 4 hours playing in the middle into a pleasant 6-hour gig. It's funny looking back on how our loadout has changed. I've gone from an 8-space rack full of rack-mount processing gear and a 1x15 and 2x10 to a pair of Eminence Deltalite 2510 neodymium loaded Fitzmaurice 1x10 cabs and a 4-space rack. I think the weight has been halved (and the output is even a little louder). I can get my entire rig plus a pair of basses, a fan and a couple miscellaneous things into the back of a Mazdaspeed3 with room to spare.
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Hey guys, I know bass -> guitar amp is a bad idea in case you blow a speaker, but how about guitar multieffects? I have an old Zoom 2000S and a Digitech RP7 lying around, is there any way a bass will send them a signal they can't handle? The RP7 has a pea-sized tube in it (REAL TUBE OVERDRIVE) if that makes any difference
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Apr 9, 2010 19:54
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baka kaba posted:Hey guys, I know bass -> guitar amp is a bad idea in case you blow a speaker, but how about guitar multieffects? I have an old Zoom 2000S and a Digitech RP7 lying around, is there any way a bass will send them a signal they can't handle? The RP7 has a pea-sized tube in it (REAL TUBE OVERDRIVE) if that makes any difference It should work okay, though I don't know about those specific pedals. More likely than not you're going to lose a lot of low-end though. I've got a Wasabi Overdrive that I use on occasion and on most of the EQ settings it completely kills the bottom of my tone.
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NarkyBark posted:Loading in/out is the worst part of playing shows. I hate it so, so much. I play bass for free. I get paid to move gear.
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Apr 9, 2010 23:39
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warwick5s posted:I play bass for free. I get paid to move gear. God I've been jonesing for a Stambaugh Resonance lately...
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Apr 9, 2010 23:54
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NarkyBark posted:Loading in/out is the worst part of playing shows. I hate it so, so much. Yesterday I carried this guy:  a few blocks because my buddy couldn't drive me back to my place It was the cherry on top of getting a poor score in a stupid battle of the bands at a college bar, too.
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Apr 10, 2010 00:25
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I look forward to my band's next gig because there's a PA and all that nice FOH stuff, so all I'll need will be my <40lb markbass combo, a bass and my gig bag. No need to bring an extra 210. Load out is still going to be a bitch though, the drummer and guitarists stuff sure hasn't become any lighter!
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Mike N Eich posted:Yesterday I carried this guy: Oh god. I had to carry a stupid Workingman 15 for like three blocks a few months ago in SF. I loving hate heavy gear. Scarf posted:God I've been jonesing for a Stambaugh Resonance lately... Didn't you just get a Lakland hollowbody?
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warwick5s posted:Oh god. I had to carry a stupid Workingman 15 for like three blocks a few months ago in SF. I loving hate heavy gear. I refuse to carry anything larger than a microcube without a trolley. I once schlepped a meager SWR LA-15 over five or six blocks and a bus ride, and my arms ached too much to play afterwards. 
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Plastic Snake posted:It should work okay, though I don't know about those specific pedals. More likely than not you're going to lose a lot of low-end though. I've got a Wasabi Overdrive that I use on occasion and on most of the EQ settings it completely kills the bottom of my tone. Yeah I just want to try it for fun really, play with some distortion without breaking anything
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Apr 10, 2010 01:53
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warwick5s posted:Didn't you just get a Lakland hollowbody? Oh come now... you know acquisition of a new bass doesn't necessarily alleviate GAS. I want a nice upright too!
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Jan posted:I refuse to carry anything larger than a microcube without a trolley. I once schlepped a meager SWR LA-15 over five or six blocks and a bus ride, and my arms ached too much to play afterwards. I'm never moving anything again without wheels or like you said, a trolley. The BXR100 has handles but they are positioned oddly and are mostly useless I still can't close my hands completely without pain
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Mike N Eich posted:Yesterday I carried this guy: Oh Christ. I have one of these and it was just too loving heavy to not put wheels on. I can't imagine carrying one several blocks.
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Apr 10, 2010 04:39
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Ten years from now people are going to look at those low wattage 15" combos that weigh like 80 pounds like we were in the stone age. Long live class D power, long live neodymium speakers.
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What are you guys's's string preferences? I figure maybe I should restring the bass I just got (the intonation's a bit hosed too) but I don't know what's on it right now or even how old they are. I'd like a bit more of a twang to it if that helps, the sound feels very dark and I'd like to be able to dial in a bit more definition
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Apr 10, 2010 22:38
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baka kaba posted:What are you guys's's string preferences? I figure maybe I should restring the bass I just got (the intonation's a bit hosed too) but I don't know what's on it right now or even how old they are. I'd like a bit more of a twang to it if that helps, the sound feels very dark and I'd like to be able to dial in a bit more definition Take it to a shop and get it set up, especially if the intonation is messed up and you are unsure how to resolve that issue. New strings are not going to fix that problem, but any new setup will require new strings. String preferences vary on the bass and the sound I want. La Bella flats, DRs, or even D'Addario chromes.
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I set as low an action as possible and use Rotosound swing bass. Gives a very nice twang to it, and it's a habit from covering The Who earlier in my life that has followed me because I love the sound more than any other now.
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I'm pretty lucky in that most of our stuff has wheels I guess. My cab came with them, and our lead guitarist decided to put some on his. Now if we can just get our rhythm guy to put some on his Laney... I was never a huge loadout kind of guy. Bass, head, cab, cables, good to go. I get the appeal of having a ton of extraneous stuff, but it never seemed worth the trouble to me. Keepin' it simple.
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Schatten posted:Take it to a shop and get it set up, especially if the intonation is messed up and you are unsure how to resolve that issue. New strings are not going to fix that problem, but any new setup will require new strings. I can adjust the intonation, I just don't want to do that if the strings are old and uneven. I'm coming from guitar, is that even a problem with bass strings? Since some people never even change them and all. Otherwise I'm just curious about the string options out there
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Mike N Eich posted:I still can't close my hands completely without pain You must carry a very light purse.
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baka kaba posted:I can adjust the intonation, I just don't want to do that if the strings are old and uneven. I'm coming from guitar, is that even a problem with bass strings? Since some people never even change them and all. Otherwise I'm just curious about the string options out there You said you wanted some twang, so the kind of strings you'll want to get are going to be roundwounds. There's nickel, which is bright, and then stainless steel, which is even brighter. If I were you, I would go with either some D'Addarios or Fender strings (because they are cheaper than other brands and so a good starting off point in exploring strings), which should run you $15 to $25. If the bass sounds too dark and undefined, also try dialing back the bass part of the EQ on the amp, boost mids some, and add in a bit of highs. Play with the tone knob on the bass itself as well. From what you said though, your bass has some old and dead strings that are probably roundwounds, so they'll sound like poo poo no matter what you do. There are three main string options, you have roundwounds, flatwounds, and ground/halfwounds. Rounds are the brightest and on basically every bass brand new. They can be clangy, sizzly, twangy, really bright basically. Your general modern bass sound, everyone and their dog uses rounds. Walk into any music store, there'll be a wide variety of roundwounds to choose from. Flats have a strong fundamental and lots of mids, and are not nearly as bright. They might sound pretty blah and boring on their own, but in a band mix they sound wonderful because they fit snugly in the sonic space between the kick drum and guitars. Plus there's some special magic to be had using a precision bass with flats. La Bella or GHS Precision flats for a more vintage vibe, D'addario chromes for a brighter flat sound (I love 'em). In the middle there's groundwounds, halfwounds, pressurewounds, ad nauseum. They're brighter than flats, fatter sounding than rounds, and pretty awesome because they combine some of the best qualities of rounds and flats. Rounds you have to change more often to keep that brightness, groundwounds much less often, and flats can be used for a year or many years.
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You forgot tapewound. 
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Scarf posted:You forgot tapewound. They were purposely left out because only you think they are strings. =)
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Schatten posted:They were purposely left out because only you think they are strings. =) Tapewounds are the poo poo son.
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Kynetx posted:You must carry a very light purse. i also just ripped a callous off while dead lifting, yes i'm a huge crybaby 
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