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mobby_6kl posted:If the acceleration figures are to be trusted, the extra 125hp translate into a 0.5 second advantage over the Sierra, so I'm curious how that would work out in the real world. Also lol it's only 0.1 seconds faster (if that) than the Cossie Escort, though I'm using metric wikipedia numbers as it's impossible to find stock performances anywhere. quote:[beaten like a fwd econobox with too much power]
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kimbo305 posted:I'm cool with that. As bizarre as the Vehicross, which had an equally pinched tumblehome. The vehicross is a lot cooler than that horrible thing's front end. I thought the headlights were enormous fog lights, then I realized. It's just ugly. Awesome on Nissan for trying different designs, but I think they can do better than that.
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# ? Apr 1, 2010 01:35 |
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Dog Paddle posted:The vehicross is a lot cooler than that horrible thing's front end. I thought the headlights were enormous fog lights, then I realized. It's just ugly. Awesome on Nissan for trying different designs, but I think they can do better than that. I don't really care how they're splitting up the lights -- the bizarreness just works for me. It reminds me a bit of the Kia Soul, maybe because of the C-pillar.
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# ? Apr 1, 2010 02:21 |
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Itzena posted:You think that's bug-eyed? Wait until you see the Juke: Which set are the headlights?
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# ? Apr 1, 2010 02:44 |
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The front looks like some unholy marriage between a Toyota 2000GT and an early Volvo 200 series.
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# ? Apr 1, 2010 03:37 |
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JackRabbitStorm posted:Which set are the headlights? One set is the low beams and the other set is the high beams. DUH.
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# ? Apr 1, 2010 05:03 |
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Good lord. Its headlights have crawled back onto the hood. And its fog lights have become headlights. And... it's spawned new little foglights where they're supposed to be, too! The rest of the design is okay I guess, not horrible, but the headlight thing is just hosed up.
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# ? Apr 1, 2010 08:52 |
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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/02/science/earth/02emit.html?hpquote:WASHINGTON — The federal government issued final rules establishing the first greenhouse gas emissions standards for automobiles and light trucks on Thursday, ending a 30-year battle between regulators and automakers. I like that this will push car companies to further develop hybrid/electric technology, however I don't like that government is mandating this and "carbon credit" taxing the smaller companies that cater to niche markets.
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# ? Apr 1, 2010 20:53 |
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Have you thought, "You know, an Elise would be a lot cooler if it had 1000hp"? Well, the Hennessey boys agree with you. http://www.hennesseyperformancestore.com/venomgt.html quote:SEALY, TEXAS & SILVERSTONE, ENGLAND, March 29, 2010 - Hennessey Performance is pleased to introduce the first official images of its Venom GT supercar. Based upon the Lotus Elise, the Venom GT combines a high-tech, lightweight British chassis with a powerful American V8.
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frozenphil posted:Have you thought, "You know, an Elise would be a lot cooler if it had 1000hp"? Well, the Hennessey boys agree with you. That's pretty damned awesome, but I bet Colin Chapman is spinning in his grave. Also, lol@ trying to drive a 1200 horsepower car with only 1200 pounds on the driven axle.
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# ? Apr 1, 2010 21:08 |
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It probably takes a week to hook up. I bet it would be fun as hell.
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# ? Apr 1, 2010 21:16 |
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Do Hennessey cars even exist? I mean a 4th grader could come up with an idea for a badass car with 1000hp but he probably won't ever build one. I feel this rule generally applies to Hennessey.
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Frosty- posted:Do Hennessey cars even exist? I mean a 4th grader could come up with an idea for a badass car with 1000hp but he probably won't ever build one. I feel this rule generally applies to Hennessey. I do wonder how they plan to put down 1200hp through PS2s.
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frozenphil posted:Have you thought, "You know, an Elise would be a lot cooler if it had 1000hp"? This thought has never, in my 21 years, ever crossed my mind. It seems like the kind of idea Smokey Yunick would have had if he was drunk off his rear end and British.
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# ? Apr 1, 2010 23:25 |
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Professor Bling posted:This thought has never, in my 21 years, ever crossed my mind.
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# ? Apr 2, 2010 00:02 |
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They've been ramping the hp up steadily over the years and you can get an Exige straight from the factory with almost 300hp now. I only wish I could afford one because I'd rock that poo poo every day. e; Also there's the 2-Eleven which is supposed to be loving insane. Blacknose fucked around with this message at 00:18 on Apr 2, 2010 |
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grover posted:Why don't they offer a 300-400hp engine? Why put 189hp when they could be going even faster still? Would jump from being practically a supercar to actually being an affordable supercar. I don't know how much more power they can get out of the Toyota four-cylinder reliably. As it is, the Exige can be had with up to 260-270hp, and adding weight to an Exige or Elise is just...wrong.
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# ? Apr 2, 2010 00:16 |
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IOwnCalculus posted:adding weight to an Exige or Elise is just...wrong.
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# ? Apr 2, 2010 05:16 |
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IOwnCalculus posted:I don't know how much more power they can get out of the Toyota four-cylinder reliably. As it is, the Exige can be had with up to 260-270hp, and adding weight to an Exige or Elise is just...wrong. 320-330bhp is about as high as you want to go on stock internals with the 2ZZ. (And that's assuming you don't spend a lot of time at the track. If you're not tracking the thing, why bother?)
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# ? Apr 2, 2010 07:13 |
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Usually when I look at a supercharged 260HP Exige, my first thought is "NEEDS MORE POWER" because I am a child.
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# ? Apr 2, 2010 15:28 |
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I don't understand why they just don't go back to the turbo ecotec?
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# ? Apr 2, 2010 16:02 |
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Since they're pretty low volume, I'd imagine that they have a contract for X thousand Toyota engines. Why would they break that contract for a (relatively) modest gain in performance?
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IOwnCalculus posted:I don't know how much more power they can get out of the Toyota four-cylinder reliably. As it is, the Exige can be had with up to 260-270hp, and adding weight to an Exige or Elise is just...wrong. Dropping in a 1200hp engine is going to add a poo poo-load of weight, though. That 725hp Hennessey, for example: 1.8L 2ZZ-GE Engine, 218hp, 253lbs dry 6.2L LS9, 726hp (for Hennessey) 530lbs dry + probably beefier everything else to handle the extra power. This, I think is absolute extreme, though; an engine half the size of the LS9 but with the same power-to-weight as the Hennessey LS9 would be a 100hp increase for the same weight as the 2ZZ-GE. I think there is a happy medium here with a reasonably bigger engine.
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# ? Apr 2, 2010 16:22 |
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The two forty has a top speed of 150mph - how many tracks have areas that you get up to more than 150 on?
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# ? Apr 2, 2010 16:30 |
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decahedron posted:The two forty has a top speed of 150mph - how many tracks have areas that you get up to more than 150 on? Okay, lets say there's not many tracks where you can get up to a high top speed. The Lotus could still use more power and there are times where it suffers from it.
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# ? Apr 2, 2010 16:34 |
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They added 500lbs and 500hp, seems about right.
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# ? Apr 2, 2010 16:39 |
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Not exactly brand new, but I saw one of these in a Seat forecourt today, goddamn I loving love that front end. Seat Ibiza Cupra Bocanegra.
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# ? Apr 12, 2010 00:25 |
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grover posted:I think there is a happy medium here with a reasonably bigger engine. On one hand I disagree, because the Elise / Exige simply was never meant to go toe to toe with a 911 Turbo or a Z06 in the straightaways - it's meant to decimate them in the corners, largely by being a featherweight with excellent balance. On the other hand, that's not a very AI answer and everyone's got a little Clarkson in 'em. I do agree that the car would probably be insane with another 100-150hp or so, but I don't know what options exist that Lotus could put out in a production-capable form (so no race-gas-only fully forged monster motor), that wouldn't add too much weight. Besides, there is the Evora now.
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# ? Apr 12, 2010 07:13 |
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Toyota must be behind on their Consumer Reports protection payments, because they've just issued a DO NOT BUYon the Lexus GX570. Apparently 4 ton live axle trucks don't do corners well.
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Throatwarbler posted:Toyota must be behind on their Consumer Reports protection payments, because they've just issued a DO NOT BUYon the Lexus GX570. Morons. You own one of those to crawl around third world countries in while surrounded in leather and "Bubinga" wood trim. They're awesome.
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# ? Apr 13, 2010 16:13 |
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I dunno, the Lexus does more of a bitchin drift: http://money.cnn.com/video/news/2010/04/13/n_toyota_lexus_gx_460_suv_skid.cnnmoney/ e: this sort of logic is also infuriating and sad: "In real-world driving, lift-off oversteer could occur when a driver enters a highway’s exit ramp or drives through a sweeping turn and encounters an unexpected obstacle or suddenly finds that the turn is too tight for the vehicle’s speed. A natural impulse is to quickly lift off the accelerator pedal. If that were to happen in the GX, the rear could slide around far enough that a wheel could strike a curb or slide off the pavement." kimbo305 fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Apr 13, 2010 |
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I noticed this article on Jalopnik also; it's not exactly on topic but it's funny. http://jalopnik.com/5516121/gang-moves-1800-lb-of-coke-in-fake-dakar-rally-truck
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# ? Apr 13, 2010 23:20 |
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MonkeyNutZ posted:I liken it to making a lowrider giraffe You're saying there's something wrong with this?
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# ? Apr 14, 2010 05:08 |
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Throatwarbler posted:Toyota must be behind on their Consumer Reports protection payments, because they've just issued a DO NOT BUYon the Lexus GX570. quote:Toyota Motor Corp has suspended sales of a new Lexus SUV in the U.S. market to investigate the risk for rollover accidents in the latest blow to the reputation of the world's largest automaker.
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# ? Apr 14, 2010 08:34 |
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kimbo305 posted:e: this sort of logic is also infuriating and sad: Consumer reports is excellent if you are a middle-aged person with kids who wants nothing more and nothing less than the absolute least eventful driving appliance you can buy. I remember they rated the Elise terrible in suspension quality, and they knocked marks off the Insight for having limited interior space. Their system just literally does not accommodate cars that aren't Toyota Camry or equivalent. I wouldn't be surprised to see them knocking down the rating on something like a Rolls-Royce because it didn't come with child seat anchors.
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CharlesM posted:I noticed this article on Jalopnik also; it's not exactly on topic but it's funny. This is like that Mammoth Car episode of Speed Racer.
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# ? Apr 14, 2010 14:44 |
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CharlesM posted:I noticed this article on Jalopnik also; it's not exactly on topic but it's funny. Drug cartels are so cool if you take away the whole violence and kidnapping aspects.
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# ? Apr 14, 2010 16:31 |
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kimbo305 posted:e: this sort of logic is also infuriating and sad: If your only instinct when going into corners too hot in any car is to suddenly lift throttle completely, you are probably going to spin out in any car, regardless of which end(s) the power is coming out of. Hell, you could probably spin out an FWD doing the same thing - and many people have. How do these morons deal with hydroplaning? Snow? Why does it still surprise me that the majority of people are incapable of operating a car? I wonder how Consumer Reports handles cars with actual snap oversteer issues.
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orange lime posted:Consumer reports is excellent if you are a middle-aged person with kids who wants nothing more and nothing less than the absolute least eventful driving appliance you can buy. Consumer reports really is terrible. Any car without ABS -and- ESC automatically on their base model loses a shitload of points from the get-go and very nearly gets put on their do not recommend car list. Never mind that research reports and statistics back up the facts that accidents aren't actually reduced by having ABS and ESC because the drivers that have them tend to drive worse thinking that those systems will save them... and they don't. Plus they are so incredibly Honda-biased it's not even funny. They might as well call themselves the Honda Report. The last ratings I saw them do for subcompacts had the fully loaded Honda Fit rank first, and then the base model Honda Fit come in second. Did they take the fully loaded versions of every other car into consideration? Nope. Just the Fit. But then they compared every other manufacturer's base model car to the fully loaded Fit and not the base model one. What a poo poo show that review was.
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Did they ever do a TVR?
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