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For those of you who have liked my 6mm stuff on my blog check out this guys blog. Puts mine to shame. http://mikes-lead.blogspot.com/
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BoBtheImpaler posted:Since Warhammer Historical games came up, has anyone played Legends of the Old West? Is it pretty much a themed Necromunda/Mordheim or what? No, it's more like a themed LotR.
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Apr 18, 2010 19:18
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lilljonas posted:No, it's more like a themed LotR. And its great fun. We play it quite often.
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Apr 18, 2010 20:57
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lilljonas posted:No, it's more like a themed LotR. More specifically, it's LoTR's combat system with Mordheim's campaign system grafted on. It's the best skirmish game that GW's ever released.
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Alright, so I'm buying some tiny cowboys then. Wargames Foundry the best place for 28mm old west? Because they're the only ones I can think of really.
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Apr 19, 2010 03:51
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I just got a deal on 1:72 cowboys at Ollie's. Also about 200 cows.
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BoBtheImpaler posted:Alright, so I'm buying some tiny cowboys then. Wargames Foundry the best place for 28mm old west? Because they're the only ones I can think of really. They have the biggest range, but the best models are Black Scorpion in my opinion. http://www.blackscorpionminiatures.com/index.php?cPath=28&osCsid=aa3d0fabbfc0a171ccb5892f667d49b9 Here's my Foundry Cowboys- Foundry paint up very quickly and easily.  Click here for the full 1200x478 image.
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So I picked up Lasalle on Saturday, looks pretty cool and I should be able to rope a few people in to playing, what are some good sources of 15mm Napoleonics figures, and what companies make the best one? Old Glory looks nice and cheap, but there WWII stuff was pretty craptacular (at least the vehicles are), are the men any better?
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DeceasedHorse posted:So I picked up Lasalle on Saturday, looks pretty cool and I should be able to rope a few people in to playing, what are some good sources of 15mm Napoleonics figures, and what companies make the best one? Old Glory looks nice and cheap, but there WWII stuff was pretty craptacular (at least the vehicles are), are the men any better? AB Miniatures have the reputation for nicest Napoleonic 15mm (although they call them 18mm) figures http://www.eurekaminusa.com/ They even have a sale on right now and special unit deals for Lasalle.
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Apr 19, 2010 08:25
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Even Grand Moff Tarkin likes historicals! http://vodpod.com/watch/3136799-british-pathe-peter-cushing
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Apr 20, 2010 14:39
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Peter Cushing was pretty awesome in just about every way.
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Apr 20, 2010 15:17
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Also:quote:Old Glory Miniatures Order ID: 14497
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Apr 20, 2010 16:19
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Lord Commissar posted:Even Grand Moff Tarkin likes historicals! He has that slightly insane look in his eyes when pouring over his models that makes it obvious that was really into it. Too bad I'm not allowed to arrange my minis all over the floor. 
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Apr 20, 2010 16:38
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lilljonas posted:He has that slightly insane look in his eyes when pouring over his models that makes it obvious that was really into it. Too bad I'm not allowed to arrange my minis all over the floor. It's easier to do at 54mm than it is at 6mm.
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Having gotten into FoW, I'd like to sink my teeth into something closer to my heart: classical wargames. But I can't justify playing in 15mm or 28mm, it has to be 6mm to really capture the feeling, and I'd like to do something like a 1:10 or 1:20 ratio for men on the field (250-500 minis representing just one legion? Yes please). Can I do something like this with the basing system in FoG? I'm not sure of how the basing works and I really just want thousands on the battlefield. I know I'm crazy.
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Sokrateez posted:Having gotten into FoW, I'd like to sink my teeth into something closer to my heart: classical wargames. But I can't justify playing in 15mm or 28mm, it has to be 6mm to really capture the feeling, and I'd like to do something like a 1:10 or 1:20 ratio for men on the field (250-500 minis representing just one legion? Yes please). Can I do something like this with the basing system in FoG? I'm not sure of how the basing works and I really just want thousands on the battlefield. That's actually what I am doing right now. If you don't want to bother with scaling movement distances etc., you can just cram more models on the same base size for FoG that you would use for 15mm miniatures. I'm doing that with my samurai, here they are based 14 per base (heavy infantry would normally be 4 miniatures on such a base in 15mm). Each base in FoG for 15mm and smaller is 40mm wide and anywhere from 15mm to 40mm deep.  6 bases, which is the normal size of a battlegroup of infantry in FoG. 6mm samurai based for FoG...  ...compared to 6 bases of my 15mm hoplites, based on the same size of bases The only real problem I can see is that you are far more limited in the number of available ranges in 6mm than with 15mm. For 15mm you can find pretty much any army that ever formed anywhere, while there are only a few companies making 6mm. But if you want large massed armies that still look like humans rather than tiny bumps on a base, 6mm is perfect. I think I already have more 6mm miniatures than all my other armies combined, and I just started collecting. It's pretty insane painting batches of 300 miniatures. But they paint up really fast, I bet I could do 100 Romans in a few hours. Check out Baccus, they are even re-doing a lot of their Ancient ranges this year, to make them even nicer. While you might not be able to unusual armies like Kushites or Jewish revolters, you can still find some major Ancient armies like Persians, Carthaginians and Celts: https://www.baccus6mm.com/ EDIT: not a FoG army, but some Baccus 6mm Romans for inspiration: http://www.io.com/~beckerdo/minis/miniother/Rome6mm/index.html lilljonas fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Apr 20, 2010 |
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Apr 20, 2010 17:28
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Dont forget Irregular and Heroics and Ros, who both have much larger ranges than Baccus. They arent as nice quality figures but to be honest, once painted up they look fine. http://www.irregularminiatures.co.uk/indexes/6mmindex.htm http://www.heroicsandros.co.uk/heroics/pdf/webcat.pdf
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Serotonin posted:Dont forget Irregular and Heroics and Ros, who both have much larger ranges than Baccus. They arent as nice quality figures but to be honest, once painted up they look fine. Irregular has the comedy option of 2mm, but IMHO it looks so flat you might as well just play with chits at that point. I haven't seen Heroics and Ros before, but I'm vary of ordering anything without seeing pictures. And I'm not printing and sending a written order to the UK in the year 2010. I'm thinking of maybe trying Irregular later on since they have Chinese and Mongols to make opposing armies, and Irregular are very cheap. The battle packs with two opposing Ancient armies for 15 quid is very tempting. lilljonas fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Apr 20, 2010 |
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http://www.gildasfacit.btinternet.co.uk/6mm/HR_6mm_scans.htm
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So I think I'm going to go with Bacchus for my classical armies, and those Napoleonic and ACW figures look great too, I'd wanted to try Black Powder anyhow. But how exactly does the battlegroup system work for FoG? Ideally I'd like a 1:10 or 1:20 ratio for men on the bases to men on the battlefield, and for 40x15mm bases, assuming 1:20, that means anywhere from 8 to 16 bases to represent a legion (depends on how many stands I can jam on the base). So does that mean a legion would be seperated into different battlegroups, or what? And I'm entirely at a loss for how Black Powder basing/unit grouping works, anyone care to explain? hot cocoa on the couch fucked around with this message at 12:32 on Apr 21, 2010 |
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For those curious about Flames of War: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsmfuPJehpU&feature=player_embedded http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMZ3SqYdnj8&NR=1 3 Action Economist fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Apr 21, 2010 |
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You know what else? I just bought those Americans and Indians (who I can use for both sides), but that means I'm going to need more Redcoats. And probably some Hessians. And French. IT NEVER ENDS! Oh also more artillery. And cavalry/dragoons. And....
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Sokrateez posted:So I think I'm going to go with Bacchus for my classical armies, and those Napoleonic and ACW figures look great too, I'd wanted to try Black Powder anyhow. But how exactly does the battlegroup system work for FoG? Ideally I'd like a 1:10 or 1:20 ratio for men on the bases to men on the battlefield, and for 40x15mm bases, assuming 1:20, that means anywhere from 8 to 16 bases to represent a legion (depends on how many stands I can jam on the base). So does that mean a legion would be seperated into different battlegroups, or what? A battlegroup is a "unit", usually 4 to 8 bases. Elite infantry like legionnaires are most often seen in battlegroups of 4 bases. You want them in several battlegroups because each individual base can't move on it's own, so if you have them all in one BG you can't split them up when needed etc. For example, here's a late republican roman army I ripped from the FoG forums. It's 650 points, which is sort of the beginner level size when you start to get an actual army: IC (this means Inspired Commander, which means that your main general has better abilities to command) TCX2 (Troop Commanders, which can also help) Fort. Camp (your camp is more difficult to loot) Superior Legion X4 bases Superior Legion X4 Superior Legion X4 Superior Legion X4 Superior Legion X4 Armored Sup Cav X4 Armored Sup Cav X4 Light Foot Javelins X6 Spanish Medium Foot Impact Sword X6 Here you have the legionnaires divided up into five battlegroups of four bases, with four battlegroups of supporting cavalry and medium/light infantry. Or you can experiment with larger battlegroups mixed with smaller, which gives you some battlegroups that are hardier since battlegroups losing half their bases is a bad thing in FoG. It also depends on how many auxiliary troops you want, this list is the same points but with less points spent on good commanders and auxilia, and more on legionnaires: 3 xTCs 1 x 6 LF Sling 1 x 4 Sup Prot Cav 4 x 4 Sup Legionaries 2 x 8 Sup Legionaries Fortified Camp Any of these would give you around 20 bases of legionnaires. If you bunch 12-14 on each base, you would be pretty close to a 1:20 ratio for the infantry if you want to emulate a 5000 infantry strong legion. It would require 260 miniatures or so for the legionnaires, which is about 2.5 bags from Baccus. For a 1:10 ratio you would just have to play with more points, say roughly 1200 points, which means more bases in more battlegroups. lilljonas fucked around with this message at 16:17 on Apr 21, 2010 |
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I think I might buy a couple of these 12x24 sheets to put on my bases. Then I just need to find some then metal strips to use as movement bases. I noticed yesterday when I was putting my AWI minis on the shelf that they're hard to keep lined up, and that's on a nice, flat shelf. I can't imagine what a pain in the rear end it must be on battlefield table. Also, it's cheaper than using GF9's system for FoW. EDIT: Although GF9 sells the rubber steel stuff I'd need for a half-decent price, I suppose. EDIT2: Although for FoW I bet I could just stick them to a cookie sheet for cheap, since they don't need movement trays. 3 Action Economist fucked around with this message at 16:47 on Apr 21, 2010 |
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Sokrateez posted:
However you like. Seriously. The game is suggested for play at 28mm, and units are grouped into tiny, small, normal or large. Most of the time you will play with normal sized units. At 28mm the writers suggesr 24-36 figures based 4 to a base on 40mm squares. This is how I am doing 28mm but I also play in other scales. At 6mm I use 2 60x30mm bases with 24 figs on as a normal sized unit and at 10mm, I base 4 figs to a 25x25 base and use 6 as a standrad sized unit. It doesnt really matter though, as long as you scale distances to match and the appendix in the rules helps with that. The whole point of Black Powder is that its as flexible as possible.
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Spank me purple and call me Daisy, I didn't think they would release this until 2017: http://theminiaturespage.com/news/84801/ Now we'll just have to see if it was worth the wait.
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Woah! And it will be available at Salute. Guess where I will be on Saturday! Wooohoo
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Oooh nice. When one of you gets it and delves in to it, give me a write-up and I'll put it in the OP.
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Lord Commissar posted:For those curious about Flames of War: For someone about to get into FoW, this helped a lot.
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Oh god, the release of WAB 2.0 has got me wodnering about doing it in 28mm (we do it in 15mm but I have never really been that keen- I just cant get on with 15mm fgiures). It doesnt help that Warlord Games have this ofer on for Salute: http://www.warlordgames.co.uk/?p=5615 * 60 Imperial Roman Legionaries * 20 Praetorian Guard * 20 Veterans * 24 Auxiliaries +waterslide shield transfers All for £51- that works out at about 2400 points before you add in any characters or other bits like slingers, cavalry and ballistas! Bless historical plastics!
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Status report: painting 300 back banners is challanging my sanity. But at least I'll be about halfways done with the batch once I finish this goddamn white. However, that doesn't deter me from considering buying enough Mongols and Chinese from Irregular Miniatures to make opposing DBA armies once I have enough for a DBA army or two. Or Khmer, who are pretty far from historical enemies but have elephants! lilljonas fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Apr 24, 2010 |
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lilljonas posted:Status report: painting 300 back banners is challanging my sanity. But at least I'll be about halfways done with the batch once I finish this goddamn white. That's the fun part with historicals! Who cars who their traditional enemies were!? 
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Some history nerds, such as myself, care too much. Attempting to find and convert these order of battle tables are only half as bad as buying 2 different wargames and close to 600 minis at the same time I guess though. Oh Napoleon, I knew I couldnt resist for long
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Salute 2010 was a great day out. Spent far too much money of course. Got myself some of the new Perry's plastic Hussars and they are bloody lovely- also picked up the free Marshal Ney on horseback figure they were bundling in. Was going to try resisting buying any artillery but the Perry artillery packs called and I bought a couple. I also got a couple of generals from Front Rank to add to my now growing army for Black Powder. Got a good deal on the Flames of War (I dont play it) River system. Ive been trying for a few years to buy a decent river and every show I come away with out one, so this year I said sod it and bought it. Its not too shabby really, and it was a good deal. I managed to avoid buying the Warlord Games Roman deal I linked above-I was amazed to see some other stalls were selling it even cheaper than Warlord Games was! Managed to get a photo of Rifelman Harris from Sharpe in full costume which was funny, and spent a good hour playing on Warlord Games Black Powder demo game which was really inspiring, and has me ithcing to try and get my French army painted ASAP.
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Serotonin posted:Salute 2010 was a great day out. Sounds great. With the new cavalry coming out and Victrix starting to make plastic artillery too, it doesn't seem too long before you can get almost two entire opposing Nappy armies in plastic, which is really cool.
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lilljonas posted:Sounds great. With the new cavalry coming out and Victrix starting to make plastic artillery too, it doesn't seem too long before you can get almost two entire opposing Nappy armies in plastic, which is really cool. Spoke to the Victrix dudes- if the Brit artillery (which went on sale for the first time at Salute, and looks awesome) sells well they will do French next!
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I bought some 10mm AWI models from Old Glory, hoping to boost what I already got from Pendraken (specifically officers, riflemen, and natives). Unfortunately, Old Glory doesn't have pictures, so I didn't realize most of them are grouped together in 5s, which really doesn't fit my basing scheme. And this is why taking pictures of your minis is important because now I'm reluctant to buy anything else from them ever again.
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Lord Commissar posted:I bought some 10mm AWI models from Old Glory, hoping to boost what I already got from Pendraken (specifically officers, riflemen, and natives). Unfortunately, Old Glory doesn't have pictures, so I didn't realize most of them are grouped together in 5s, which really doesn't fit my basing scheme. You mean there's five on each strip? Why don't you just cut them off from the strip and base them? That's how I do with my 6mm stuff.
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Lord Commissar posted:I bought some 10mm AWI models from Old Glory, hoping to boost what I already got from Pendraken (specifically officers, riflemen, and natives). Unfortunately, Old Glory doesn't have pictures, so I didn't realize most of them are grouped together in 5s, which really doesn't fit my basing scheme. Old Glory 10mm are all in strips of 5. Thats just the way they roll.
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