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WeaselWeaz posted:Probably the next strongest of the Japanese after Inoki. However, it's a big drop. Inoki did business with Vince Jr. and Sr. Muta worked for WCW. I'd actually say the next strongest Japanese wrestler is either Baba or Chosu.
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I think that the way WWE thinks, if they're going to induct people from overseas, they'll probably do someone from another country next. I'd have to think Carlos Colon is going in soon. However, on the Japanese induction thing, I'll agree that Baba and Chosu are good choices, but if they'll put a person like Gorgeous George in, then why not Rikidozan? Also, I wonder what Stan Hansen's chances are. He's one of the bigger stars in Japan and I think he had a pretty good run with Bruno in the WWF in the 70s.
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Yuriy posted:In the shoot-style puroreso matches that Ditch posted in the puroresu thread, what is the meaning of the squares in the bottom after a wrestler escapes a hold or knocks someone down? It's a rope-breaks/knock down counter. You lose three squares for a knockdown and one for a rope-break. If you lose all 15 of your squares, you lose the match. EDIT: Wait, RINGS only has 9 squares. It's something like this, anyway. lol but fucked around with this message at 10:54 on Apr 25, 2010 |
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Apr 25, 2010 10:43
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Lone Rogue posted:I'd actually say the next strongest Japanese wrestler is either Baba or Chosu. Tiger Chung Lee. Sure he never won a match . . .
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Davros1 posted:Tiger Chung Lee. I thought he was Korean.
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Lone Rogue posted:I'd actually say the next strongest Japanese wrestler is either Baba or Chosu. Why? Chosu wasn't a big star in America. Neither was Baba and WWE didn't do business with Japan. Also, Baba is dead. TL posted:I think that the way WWE thinks, if they're going to induct people from overseas, they'll probably do someone from another country next. I'd have to think Carlos Colon is going in soon. However, on the Japanese induction thing, I'll agree that Baba and Chosu are good choices, but if they'll put a person like Gorgeous George in, then why not Rikidozan? Also, I wonder what Stan Hansen's chances are. He's one of the bigger stars in Japan and I think he had a pretty good run with Bruno in the WWF in the 70s. Colon is dependent on them wanting to push a Colon, but they did a lot of business with him so he's possible. George was a megastar in the US and his wife was alive, Rikidozan wasn't ever a star in the US and he's been dead a long time with no relatives worth mentioning. Hansen could go in as a Japanese star since he's American, worked territories and New York, and they own footage. Bruno gets closer to accepting going into the Hall of Fame every year, but that's also a year closer to death.
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Apr 26, 2010 01:45
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The Cena/Batista match made me think of something. Didn't you used to have to get a pinfall before the ref would start a ten count in a last man standing match or did I make that up?
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Apr 26, 2010 15:47
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Karmine posted:The Cena/Batista match made me think of something. Didn't you used to have to get a pinfall before the ref would start a ten count in a last man standing match or did I make that up? I think that's a Texas Deathmatch.
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Karmine posted:The Cena/Batista match made me think of something. Didn't you used to have to get a pinfall before the ref would start a ten count in a last man standing match or did I make that up? Thats a texas deathmatch. Crush/Savage at WMX was fought under those rules, all last man standing matches since then have had the standing ten count from a knockdown.
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Apr 26, 2010 15:49
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Skinty McEdger posted:Thats a texas deathmatch. Crush/Savage at WMX was fought under those rules, all last man standing matches since then have had the standing ten count from a knockdown. The Savage/Crush match was under weirder rules where falls counted anywhere and the person who was pinned had one minute to get back to the ring.
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Apr 26, 2010 17:14
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Kentucky Shark posted:The Savage/Crush match was under weirder rules where falls counted anywhere and the person who was pinned had one minute to get back to the ring. And it was loving fantastic. After reading the Bret book, I have a feeling Vince McMahon didn't hate Savage for something ridiculous like having sex with Steph, but it was more that he wanted to keep him on WWF payroll as an "Ambassador" but refused to let him wrestle. Vince was a complete idiot not allowing Savage to be the veteran of the older generation. WWF could have really used Savage in main events in the mid 90s. It'd be like if Vince kept Michaels hired since 2002 but refused to ever let him work.
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Apr 26, 2010 21:38
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There was a clip a while back wherein someone argued a count and got the referee to go his way. Anyone know where it is?
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Matlock posted:There was a clip a while back wherein someone argued a count and got the referee to go his way. Anyone know where it is? IIRC, it was in Chikara, and the wrestler who successfully convinced the referee it was a three-count was Darkness Crabtree. Chikara's also the company where a wrestler has fully admitted to breaking the rules, asks the ref if he'll disqualify him, and the ref says "Nope." Witness Quack's flirtation with the rudo side!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZVwK-RQfUM#t=1m41s found it
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Matlock posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZVwK-RQfUM#t=1m41s Was Necro still playing CP Munk at that point? He got pretty good air selling that stunner.
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Apr 27, 2010 06:01
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WeaselWeaz posted:Probably the next strongest of the Japanese after Inoki. However, it's a big drop. Inoki did business with Vince Jr. and Sr. Muta worked for WCW. It's not that far off to believe, as has been suggested, that they'll be going WCW crazy with HOF inductions since they finally decided to hold a WrestleMania in Atlanta. Then again, we all know how petty Vince can be so who knows.
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Lone Rogue posted:And it was loving fantastic. Putting Savage in the main event would have been counterproductive. He was already getting old and they were trying to build the company around younger stars. CM Junk posted:It's not that far off to believe, as has been suggested, that they'll be going WCW crazy with HOF inductions since they finally decided to hold a WrestleMania in Atlanta. It'll come down to whether business in Japan went up for Wrestlemania, the press for Inoki was why he got in. If it's a bump then more Japanese stars may get in. If not the odds decrease greatly.
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WeaselWeaz posted:Putting Savage in the main event would have been counterproductive. He was already getting old and they were trying to build the company around younger stars. I guess HBK vs. Taker was counter-productive? Not only that, he was still a draw. You're telling me people wouldn't have been fine with Macho vs. Hart?
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Lone Rogue posted:I guess HBK vs. Taker was counter-productive? The WWF was going in a different direction at that time. They were touting the New Generation with people like Hart, Michaels, Perfect & Razor as the stars.
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Apr 28, 2010 00:51
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Rusty Shackelford posted:The WWF was going in a different direction at that time. They were touting the New Generation with people like Hart, Michaels, Perfect & Razor as the stars. And Bob Backlund. And Jerry Lawler. Oh wait...
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Apr 28, 2010 01:33
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Kurt Angle, what the gently caress happened to him? Why did he leave the WWE? Why is he considered to be a crazy rear end in a top hat just about everywhere? Does he still tuck Shelton Benjamin in at night when his Mama is mad at him?
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Apr 28, 2010 01:51
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Booblord Sagat posted:Kurt Angle, what the gently caress happened to him? Why did he leave the WWE? Why is he considered to be a crazy rear end in a top hat just about everywhere? Does he still tuck Shelton Benjamin in at night when his Mama is mad at him? This is my understanding based only on reading this forum. He was dangerously hosed up on drugs, to the point that even Vince was concerned. Vince wanted him to clean up. Kurt said that he would go to rehab or something so Vince let him out of his contract/didn't re-sign him. Instead of doing that he signed with TNA and was made their top star. As for Shelton he hasn't for awile but probably will start again in about 83 days.
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FishBulb posted:This is my understanding based only on reading this forum. That and Kurt's troubles with the law since leaving WWE.
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FishBulb posted:This is my understanding based only on reading this forum. I'm pretty sure Vince told him to go to rehab or he was getting cut and Kurt said he wasn't going to rehab, so yea.
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Lone Rogue posted:And Bob Backlund. And Jerry Lawler. New Generation didn't necessarily mean younger guys. Hart, Hennig & Hall were all 32 or 33 when that started.
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sportsgenius86 posted:I'm pretty sure Vince told him to go to rehab or he was getting cut and Kurt said he wasn't going to rehab, so yea. This is correct. Vince wanted him to take time off from various injuries and go to rehab. (Kurt had just suffered THREE injuries in ONE match at an ECW house show.) Kurt refused and was fired. Kurt claims he quit, and that he had talked to Dixie Carter about coming in and that is why he quit (this is one of about 100 stories he has told) but since there was never a contract tampering lawsuit I think we can throw out Kurt's side of the story.
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The more important aspect of the story is that Vince thought Kurt needed rehab, which means Kurt was REAAAaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAlly hosed up
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Rusty Shackelford posted:New Generation didn't necessarily mean younger guys. Hart, Hennig & Hall were all 32 or 33 when that started. Bob... Backlund... predates... Savage... Oh nevermind.
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Lone Rogue posted:Bob... Backlund... predates... Savage... Not to most people watching. Besides, Backlund was a fluke thing that really caught on. He had one main event match and lost the title 3 days later.
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MassRayPer posted:since there was never a contract tampering lawsuit I think we can throw out Kurt's side of the story. Also since Kurt's side of the story changes drat near every time he talks about it.
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Apr 28, 2010 04:35
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tzirean posted:Also since Kurt's side of the story changes drat near every time he talks about it. did you know he's meeting with dana white RIGHT NOW to see about fighting randy couture??????????????????
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dusty udder smoker posted:did you know he's meeting with dana white RIGHT NOW to see about fighting randy couture?????????????????? Kurt Angle is going to end up on a Moosin show fighting Super Mariusz and he will be the first person to die of MMA related injuries.
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Apr 28, 2010 05:10
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I would not be surprised if Kurt ends up fighting an actual moose.
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Apr 28, 2010 05:13
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Did they used to legit surprise the draftees on the live RAW draft show in the past?
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Apr 28, 2010 05:39
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DannoMack posted:Did they used to legit surprise the draftees on the live RAW draft show in the past? That's what they say. I remember when Jeff Hardy got drafted to Smackdown he didn't look that thrilled about it.
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DannoMack posted:Did they used to legit surprise the draftees on the live RAW draft show in the past? yep. lance storm wrote a huge thing about it on his website during the 2002 draft. he asked beforehand where he was going, they told him he would have to go on the website to find out. he had to call his non-wrestling friend in canada to go look it up for him and tell him what brand he was going to be on.
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Yep, there is no beforehand knowledge. I remember JR got drafted over to Smackdown and I think he went on-line and blogged about how unhappy he was and I want to say he even considered retiring. Which I thought was petty of him since he always talks about people not putting forth their best effort and not having any heart but JR gets drafted to Smackdown: This is terrible!!Also, look how mad Taker gets when he finds out he got drafted!!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9SblJ2FZdI
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oldpainless posted:Also, look how mad Taker gets when he finds out he got drafted!!!!! UGH I'M SO MAD! "Keep rollin rollin rollin rollin"
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In the Brian Kendrick & Paul London shoot, they keep bringing up a bearskin rug in Titan Tower. Is there some story surrounding Vince and a bearskin rug that I've missed out on?
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