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Xenomrph posted:Scoured two Wal-Marts today for the Iron Man 6" figures, absolutely nothing. Not even a space for them, or pegs, or price tags, anything. My area's like this too. I finally found one War Machine and Mark V 6" after checking six Walmarts over the course of three days. The one's I found were simply laid on the shelf with no peg in site. I only picked up the War Machine but drat is he awesome.
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Shiftypenguin posted:My area's like this too. I finally found one War Machine and Mark V 6" after checking six Walmarts over the course of three days. The one's I found were simply laid on the shelf with no peg in site.  There's another Wal-Mart I'm going to try tomorrow after work, otherwise I'll wait a day or two and re-check them all again I guess.  loving Flagstaff stocked new stuff better than major metro Phoenix does. It's not like I'm living in some podunk town in the middle of nowhere here.
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I've been checking the 3 Wal-Marts here in Eugene the last week or so and nothing's come up yet, so I feel your pain.
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Xenomrph posted:loving Flagstaff stocked new stuff better than major metro Phoenix does. It's not like I'm living in some podunk town in the middle of nowhere here. To be fair, Phoenix is the biggest suburb on the planet.
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Apr 28, 2010 19:14
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Xenomrph posted:When did you finally find him? Maybe they just haven't trickled out here in Phoenix yet or something, I dunno. I mean, I wouldn't feel so bad if the 6" ones literally JUST came out and maybe they'll hit here over the next week or so. If they've been out for a few weeks and Phoenix is still retarded then that's something different. I found him Monday. I'm in Illinois, BTW.
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Apr 28, 2010 23:27
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Xenomrph posted:loving Flagstaff stocked new stuff better than major metro Phoenix does. It's not like I'm living in some podunk town in the middle of nowhere here. I found the ironman figure in Yuma. For once we got something first.
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So I got a couple of the little 3" Iron Man 2 figures and I really can't figure out what to do with the "armor cards". Like, I get that rearranging them between armors creates a different letter/number code along the right side. So I guess you can "build" armors with different stats and attributes, and the alphanumeric code would reflect the combination you made? The thing is, the https://www.ironmancard.com URL printed on the armor cards just redirects to Marvel.com and I can't find a place to actually use them or anything.
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Apr 29, 2010 03:13
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June 15th is the reorder date for the DCUC Wave 5 box sets on MattyCollector. http://www.mattycollector.com/store/matty/en_US/DisplayProductDetailsPage/productID.184112500 Looks like its just the 5 figures for the C&C pieces, and its only $70.00.
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Xenomrph posted:So I got a couple of the little 3" Iron Man 2 figures and I really can't figure out what to do with the "armor cards". I was confused on this too. I googled it and the consensus seems to be that it's coming but the website just isn't live yet. Maybe next week or something.
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Apr 29, 2010 16:49
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The Rage posted:June 15th is the reorder date for the DCUC Wave 5 box sets on MattyCollector. When did spending $14/figure become acceptable? I remember $5 being average, and $7-$8 being the norm for McFarlane toys. $20 got you a big deluxe bit, and not just some basic figure.
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Apr 29, 2010 17:34
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Shiftypenguin posted:I was confused on this too. I googled it and the consensus seems to be that it's coming but the website just isn't live yet. Maybe next week or something.
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Apr 29, 2010 18:16
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Matlock posted:When did spending $14/figure become acceptable? I remember $5 being average, and $7-$8 being the norm for McFarlane toys. $20 got you a big deluxe bit, and not just some basic figure. In 2005, there was a major petrochemical supply shock when Katrina wiped the floor with the Gulf refinery industry, which trickled down the supply line slowly until 2008, when everything went completely inside out with the collapse of Wall Street. The rising cost of plastic and a hosed up economy combined with natural inflation leads to these kind of situations.
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Apr 29, 2010 18:35
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3 posted:In 2005, there was a major petrochemical supply shock when Katrina wiped the floor with the Gulf refinery industry, which trickled down the supply line slowly until 2008, when everything went completely inside out with the collapse of Wall Street. The rising cost of plastic and a hosed up economy combined with natural inflation leads to these kind of situations.
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Seems unlikely, especially since everyone has started releasing smaller figures at the old $5-8 price point. It's very rare for prices to come down significantly.
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Apr 29, 2010 20:36
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Xenomrph posted:So when the economy starts turning around, can we expect to see the prices go back down a bit? Or is that just silly? Maybe. Another problem comes into play when a company that has a relative corner on a niche market like this raises prices; because there's not as much competition in terms of other collectibles like these (the DC Direct stuff is nice, but lacking the variety and poseability of DC Classics), there's not as much reason for them to lower the price when they see that people are willing to pay out the nose for these things.
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Apr 29, 2010 20:40
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I remember buying Marvel Legends off the pegs for 6 bucks. That wasn't even that long ago. 
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I can accept paying $5 apiece for 3.75" figures. When the store wants me to pay $7+, I hesitate. I want to get all 6 "marks" of Iron Man armor from the Iron Man 2 series just because I think it'd look cool having them all in a row, but when they're $7 apiece and stuff like the Mark III, IV, and VI are so similar, I really hesitate. I picked up the Mark VI yesterday as an impulse purchase, and I'm already considering returning it unopened because it I could use that $7 on something more worth my money. Add to that the hit-or-miss paint apps on the Iron Man 2 figs and it really makes me stop and think before I pick one up. Don't regret getting the Hypervelocity Armor concept figure, though. The flat face is a little weird but I understand why it has that and it's in-line with the aesthetic, and I still like the figure a lot.
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Apr 29, 2010 20:54
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Matlock posted:When did spending $14/figure become acceptable? I remember $5 being average, and $7-$8 being the norm for McFarlane toys. $20 got you a big deluxe bit, and not just some basic figure. poo poo gets more expensive to make, and the companies still need to make a profit on top of that. Materials and labor pretty much always move upward, though some sectors slower than others.
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Well looking at Hasbro's financial records and shareholder information they barely make any money at all. If I was a shareholder I would be wondering why the company makes suck boneheaded moves constantly. Actually I think I am going to buy some Hasbro stock. That isn't such a bad idea, if more collectors were shareholders they could perhaps force the said companies into doing better stuff.
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Djarum posted:Well looking at Hasbro's financial records and shareholder information they barely make any money at all. If I was a shareholder I would be wondering why the company makes suck boneheaded moves constantly. That's pretty good reasoning for Mattel charging 15 bucks for a figure too.
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Djarum posted:Well looking at Hasbro's financial records and shareholder information they barely make any money at all. If I was a shareholder I would be wondering why the company makes suck boneheaded moves constantly. Hasbro owns Wizards of the Coast, so, a lot of their revenue comes from Magic: the Gathering and D&D. Other than that though, you're pretty much right.
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Zeitgueist posted:That's pretty good reasoning for Mattel charging 15 bucks for a figure too. Well at least with the DCUC figures you are getting 15 bucks worth of figure for the most part. For a lot of Mattel's collector orientated lines it seems like they are doing high quality, small runs of product. There are some things that I think they cheapen out on a little too much for the price (Movie Masters, Ghostbusters) but I am glad to get most of that in as high a quality as they end up. Mattel has a bunch of 500 pound Gorillas in their band though, Hot Wheels and Fisher Price sell crazy well. Hot Wheels is even more impressive when you realize they still charge only a buck for the toy. I do feel like companies could lower prices across the board a little bit. 15 dollars a figure is just beyond what most people are willing to pay.
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Djarum posted:Well at least with the DCUC figures you are getting 15 bucks worth of figure for the most part. Most of the DCUC stuff I like, but I can't justify paying more than $8-$10 for them. Hell, ReSaurus made figures with the same detail with as good of paint applications on a larger build for $8-$10.
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Matlock posted:Most of the DCUC stuff I like, but I can't justify paying more than $8-$10 for them. Mattel has a lot more overhead for a variety of reasons. Also, I'm guessing that was a few years ago, and costs have gone way the gently caress up.
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Matlock posted:Most of the DCUC stuff I like, but I can't justify paying more than $8-$10 for them. Yea, but ReSaurus isn't with us anymore. I agree though, over  and I start to question the buy a lot.
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I'm guessing it's half poor inventory management and half realization that most of the market is collectors now.
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The collector-owned market is a myth that has been sadly perpetuated by overzealous toys journalism (ugh) websites and forums that vastly inflate the importance of adult collectors on toy sales. At best, the die-hard collectors hold maybe 10% of the share, but even that's being generous. The fact that it is distributors/chain stores that pay the company direct for shipments and not collectors themselves plays a big part into this. Here's a down to earth example: remember Xevoz? They were a star darling amongst collectors and everyone loving loved them. The line got pulled from shelves because it sold terribly. Which isn't to say the toy companies don't pay attention to the adult collectors but they're perfectly aware that it's a very niche market, and milk that for all its worth with stuff like Matty Collector and HTS.com. Xenomrph posted:So when the economy starts turning around, can we expect to see the prices go back down a bit? Or is that just silly? It's pretty unlikely we'll ever see a significant reduction in prices back to '05-era levels since we can't just magically replenish our supply of hydrocarbons.
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3 posted:It's pretty unlikely we'll ever see a significant reduction in prices back to '05-era levels since we can't just magically replenish our supply of hydrocarbons.  v
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Matlock posted:Most of the DCUC stuff I like, but I can't justify paying more than $8-$10 for them. Resaurus also went out of business in 2001. A ton of small toy makers who made great poo poo have gone out of business since then because of the cost of everything involved in making the toys (materials, labor, etc.) has increased for many reasons.
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It's more likely that a major player would pull out of toys than prices going down.
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Xenomrph posted:Well if the environment caused part of the problem, and the poo poo economy caused part of it, and the economy turns around, couldn't that cause some kind of reduction? Sure we can't get the environment part back, but we can make the economy not suck cock. v There's no reason for them to reduce prices. They've already taken the PR/customer interest hit by increasing prices initially and now have lines that can be sustained at those prices with the customers that remained. Reducing prices is just as risky for them because they can't be sure the customers who left when the initial increases happened would necessarily come back. Bird in the hand and all that. In addition, as people become acclimated to $15 action figures as "the norm" some customers WILL return. At that point, they have the benefit of increased interest AND a more profitable price-point. Vaporware posted:It's more likely that a major player would pull out of toys than prices going down. Or at least punt on the less profitable lines. I can easily see everyone retiring the DCUC/Marvel Legends scale figures and switching over to 3 3/4" lines exclusively.
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quote:Which isn't to say the toy companies don't pay attention to the adult collectors but they're perfectly aware that it's a very niche market, and milk that for all its worth with stuff like Matty Collector and HTS.com. Hasbro pay a bit of attention in Transformers, where we get stuff like Bludgeon or Straxus. Of course said characters are a skeleton samurai tank and a pickaxe wielding artillery cannon so I don't know what that says about Transformers fans Although I do always laugh at how the Starwars fans managed to get Hasbro to pretty much kill their fan related line with obscure characters funtax posted:Or at least punt on the less profitable lines. I can easily see everyone retiring the DCUC/Marvel Legends scale figures and switching over to 3 3/4" lines exclusively. I'd love this. GI Joes were my introduction to that scale, and I know a lot of people love 6", but drat if having an Iron Man the same size as Duke or some Stormtroopers isn't awesome
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Mecheon posted:Although I do always laugh at how the Starwars fans managed to get Hasbro to pretty much kill their fan related line with obscure characters
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funtax posted:Or at least punt on the less profitable lines. I can easily see everyone retiring the DCUC/Marvel Legends scale figures and switching over to 3 3/4" lines exclusively. As far as I know, DCUC does better than the other scales of DC stuff that Mattel makes.
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Lookie what I found today
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Hot drat, time to start checking for that Blue Beetle every time I go out.
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Joe Fisto posted:Lookie what I found today I haven't even found the second half of the last wave. Really want that Superboy (shut up  )
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Joe Fisto posted:Lookie what I found today Fuuuuuck. Need that Blue Beetle.
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Xenomorph, is the Revoltech Alien figure as cool as it looks? Figured you would know.
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Xenomrph posted:What do you mean? Thanks to stores over-ordering the first few waves of Star Wars Legacy Collection stuff, as they do with all first waves, stores had a massive backstock of wonderful shelfwarmer characters Having a whole ton of shelfwarmers means stores aren't going to order anything more, obviously, and these particular shelfwarmers were so bad they actually had to send Hasbro reps out just to buy and destroy the damned things simply because no stores were ordering anything because they still had shelves full of sixbreasted dancers and Republic Senators Naturally the horrible nerdy centre of Star Wars toy fans want to drive the stake into their line by now demanding Hasbro make some librarian or something and somehow attempting to claim it won't kill the line. Hasbro have, thankfully, come up with enough common sense to say "Not in a million loving years" Of course all I care about with the Star Wars toys is picking up the few things that look awesome, which I rarely can get when said shelfwarmers have been sitting around here for well over a year Zeitgueist posted:As far as I know, DCUC does better than the other scales of DC stuff that Mattel makes. Yeah, the DC 3 3/4" stuff? Generally poo poo. A few things do look nice, but they just aren't even comparable to Hasbro's stuff, even at their best Plus they're tiny. Hasbro's more around 4" with their scale, so displaying them together is going to look a bit off. Pick up a few if you can get them for cheap, cause they generally do go on sale a lot, but don't expect the greatest toys ever made
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