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404notfound posted:At the bottom is a comment supposedly from JC himself. I googled the username, and after following two or three links it turns out that JC is quite the gamer. Where's that comment? I don't see it anywhere. I wish I had Live so I could add JC as a friend.
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I'm running Shifter/Biomod and finding silly ways to kill people. Case in point, found these explosive barrels in the underbelly of the 747 and used my SUPER STRENGTH to move them all upstairs to the entrance to Lebedev's room. Then placed a LAM on the wall nearby. Didn't even have to talk to that bitch. 
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Apr 30, 2010 15:37
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Once I'm done my nonlethal playthrough I'm thinking of starting a maximum-force (i.e. kill everybody who pulls a gun) weaponless playthrough. I'll have to use headstomping, crate-throwing, turret hacking, and all sorts of foul play to make it work. It could be either incredibly frustrating or extremely entertaining. e: I might also make it a Worst Agent Ever run, in which you must always do exactly the opposite of what you're ordered to, anger your coworkers as much as possible without getting attacked, and avoid op bonuses like the plague. vvv Stand right in front of an allied NPC, up close, while holding a weapon and the game will prompt you to hit the drop/throw key to give it to them vvv Angry Diplomat fucked around with this message at 16:31 on Apr 30, 2010 |
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Apr 30, 2010 15:55
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Angry Boat posted:Shifter makes Miguel a bit more useful. I'm using an old version of shifter so can't do it yet, but I've read the readmes in biomod and seen no mention of this. How are people getting NPCs to hold specific weapons?
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The Rat posted:I'm running Shifter/Biomod and finding silly ways to kill people. Case in point, found these explosive barrels in the underbelly of the 747 and used my SUPER STRENGTH to move them all upstairs to the entrance to Lebedev's room. Then placed a LAM on the wall nearby. You only need the LAM 
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Apr 30, 2010 16:28
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Retro-Future Rodent posted:I'm using an old version of shifter so can't do it yet, but I've read the readmes in biomod and seen no mention of this. How are people getting NPCs to hold specific weapons? Stand next to them with a weapon and there'll be a message on screen telling you how. Drop weapon key, usually tab I think.
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Apr 30, 2010 16:29
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MrL_JaKiri posted:You only need the LAM Overkill is never a bad thing, though.
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Apr 30, 2010 16:29
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Carbohydrates posted:Overkill is never a bad thing, though. Especially when it comes to that showdown in the 'Ton with UNATCO agents after you and Paul. Set a bunch of LAMs downstairs, bring some of those TNT crates from the NSF base with you. I tried this after reading about it in the Sunglasses at Night anti-walkthrough and it was hilarious.
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Apr 30, 2010 16:38
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Akoogly Eyes posted:Especially when it comes to that showdown in the 'Ton with UNATCO agents after you and Paul. Set a bunch of LAMs downstairs, bring some of those TNT crates from the NSF base with you. I tried this after reading about it in the Sunglasses at Night anti-walkthrough and it was hilarious. I did the nonlethal variant of this by carpeting the entire building with gas grenades and coaxing Paul out into the hallway by smashing his chair and pushing furniture at him. When I spoke to him, all hell broke loose - people materialized out of thin air, gas grenades went off, the conversation was interrupted by JC getting hit by a gas cloud, and the whole building turned into a shitfest of screaming guys and Paul running in circles shooting in random directions and JC sprinting around coughing and hitting guys with the blackjack. I somehow managed to knock everyone unconscious and sauntered out feeling rather pleased with myself, only to realize that breaking the conversation had prevented Paul from telling JC the subway keycode, which in turn prevented the note from appearing in the goals/notes screen. I had to look the code up online 
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Apr 30, 2010 16:44
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I was escorting Miguel and told him to wait so I could take out the guard outside the MJ12 exit but I told him to wait before the load point. I went back when the coast was clear, and saw Miguel right before he vanished in front of me. 4/26 Never Forget our Heroes 
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Apr 30, 2010 19:15
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Carbohydrates posted:Alternatively, you only need the barrels My previous anti-Anna option was running down the hallway after she was done killing Lebedev and hitting the room with a LAW. I felt like I had to kick things up a notch from that in terms of explosives.
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Apr 30, 2010 19:17
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AXE COP posted:Where's that comment? I don't see it anywhere. Oops, I actually found it through a different (but related) video and not the one linked. Anyway I didn't mean to be all internet stalker-y, but I just thought it was kinda cool. I wonder if he'll play DX3 when it comes out.
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Apr 30, 2010 19:27
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MrL_JaKiri posted:You only need the LAM Depending on the difficulty level and your Demolitions skill, one LAM may or may not be enough. Two will always work.
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Apr 30, 2010 19:32
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Gynovore posted:Depending on the difficulty level and your Demolitions skill, one LAM may or may not be enough. Two will always work. 1. Is it destroyable? If yes, run through it, destroying it. If no, 2. Is it pushable? If yes, push it forward. If no, 3. Go around. So Anna will run straight through the barrels, exploding them and killing her. Also, if you block the passage with a large metal crate from the hangar and put another crate behind it to keep it from moving, Anna will think it's pushable and try running through but be unable to move it, keeping her from entering the room, which is one of those "nobody has to die" ways of handling the situation.
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Carbohydrates posted:The way NPCs handle obstructing objects is as follows: And then Manderley still goes ballistic on JC, blaming him for Navarre's decision to headbutt a barrel full of napalm. One of my favorite rear end in a top hat tricks is to find a door that opens outward, put a TNT crate in front of it, and then make a noise of some kind or run past a nearby window. Anyone who sees or hears you will run to the door and open it to investigate. This ends in (hilarious) tragedy, since doors instantly break any destroyable object they strike while opening.
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Apr 30, 2010 19:44
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Gynovore posted:Depending on the difficulty level and your Demolitions skill, one LAM may or may not be enough. Two will always work. I can't remember needing more than one, I don't know if it's different on Hard though.
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Gynovore posted:Depending on the difficulty level and your Demolitions skill, one LAM may or may not be enough. Two will always work. After doing my 14th or 15th non-lethal playthrough I'm doing in Biomod the no guns, no augs, and on-site procurement challenges all at the same time. It's definitely a different game as you scrounge around for melee weapons and vending machines are a god-send.
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Mathemagician posted:on-site procurement challenge
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Apr 30, 2010 19:47
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Carbohydrates posted:How does this one work? Do you have to empty out your inventory in every new area or what? When you finish a mission, you abandon everything. It's great.
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Apr 30, 2010 19:49
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MrL_JaKiri posted:When you finish a mission, you abandon everything. It's great. I take it you're not allowed to pick things up in between missions then? No going to Carter for lockpicks, etc.?
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Apr 30, 2010 19:55
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEn-g8s6qEw Apparently you can just sneak onto the subway an leave the hostages to their fate.
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Apr 30, 2010 20:14
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Shumagorath posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEn-g8s6qEw Time to reinstall!
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Apr 30, 2010 20:21
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Shumagorath posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEn-g8s6qEw This is beautiful. So I was in Paris and picked up a telephone. Icarus said a scary thing that made me turn around and shoot a GEP rocket right into the wall behind me. I am dead now
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Apr 30, 2010 20:29
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEzXpQUQ51I&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB7HVqaVE7A&feature=channel Found these two videos just now. I love how many secrets this game has!
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Apr 30, 2010 20:29
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Where is that very first bit? I don't recognize it at all.
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Apr 30, 2010 20:42
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stevpear posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEzXpQUQ51I&feature=related Holy poo poo, I had no idea about the southern wing of the sealab at all
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Chunderbucket posted:Where is that very first bit? I don't recognize it at all. Guessing tutorial.
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Apr 30, 2010 20:45
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Using that computer to shut down the generator is a secret? I didn't realize there was another way to do it. 
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You can just throw a LAM at it, or shoot one of the explosive barrels, or rocket
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I had a weird thing happen when I was trying to help Miguel escape. I killed all the guards in the detention block then told him to make a break for it. He left his cell, walked down the hall, and stood next to the desk staring at the wall for a few seconds, until there was the sound of breaking glass and the ceiling turret started firing at him. Then he whipped out his knife and started trying to stab me to death so I had to shoot him. I reloaded my save and tried again and the exact same thing happened. So weird.
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Cool Hand Leukemia posted:I had a weird thing happen when I was trying to help Miguel escape. I killed all the guards in the detention block then told him to make a break for it. He left his cell, walked down the hall, and stood next to the desk staring at the wall for a few seconds 
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That secrets video blew my mind, especially the computers and generator part, although I guess it makes sense: with all the explosive dynamics of the area, there should very well be, one would hope, a legitimate means of deactivating the power. It also reinforces my now double-cemented belief that the game does not start in earnest until you reach China. The UNATCO reveal certainly robs you of breath, but it's actually the China intro--elevator doors open, cue music, cue crowd sound effects, right-foot-in-front-of-left, "Alright JC, you have 13 hours left on your killswitch. Find Tong"--that finally gasses you back up, granting you this suddenly frenetic personal agency. Delicious. Too bad I have too much work to play again. Or do I? I sort of wish you could interact with Alex somehow late game through comms. He seems wasted, since there is no real joy in talking to the npc when you get a chance. It would have been interesting if you could somehow make decisions that would allow Alex to filter some of the information you got, perhaps, since by the end of the game your head is basically a radio running several stations at once with no off button. Le Sean fucked around with this message at 23:27 on Apr 30, 2010 |
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What's the best way to take out Navarre WITHOUT just blowing her up before she gets to Lebedev? As in, turning on her after the conversation when she tells you to kill Lebedev... I can't think of a way to do it cleanly without cheating or also killing Lebedev.... drat small plane cabin.  Now if only you could knock her out somehow, and the game planned for that...
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Fuzz posted:What's the best way to take out Navarre WITHOUT just blowing her up before she gets to Lebedev? As in, turning on her after the conversation when she tells you to kill Lebedev... I can't think of a way to do it cleanly without cheating or also killing Lebedev.... drat small plane cabin. A full clip of assault rifle ammo to the dome.
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May 1, 2010 01:06
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Just hurt her, and you can either lead her away from Lebidev, or she'll cloak and run away, where you can safely slaughter her like the dog that she is.
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I always liked to place a LAM on the side of the bed, out of line of sight of Lebedev but within trigger range of Anna. Worked every time I have tried it.
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May 1, 2010 01:13
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Why is the plasma gun so awesome when Simons uses it and so lovely when you take it?
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May 1, 2010 01:50
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Luigi Thirty posted:Why is the plasma gun so awesome when Simons uses it and so lovely when you take it? The game treats Simons like he has the Heavy Weapons skill. Crank yours to the top level and you can blast away like he does, although that's prolly a waste of skill points.
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May 1, 2010 02:11
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Luigi Thirty posted:Why is the plasma gun so awesome when Simons uses it and so lovely when you take it? Because he has unlimited ammo and can run full speed with it.
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Luigi Thirty posted:Why is the plasma gun so awesome when Simons uses it and so lovely when you take it?
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