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Velius
Feb 27, 2001

Hipster Scumbag posted:

Has anyone tried Gorky 17 / Odium? What can you tell me about it? I hear it's vaguely x-com / silent stormy...

It's a turn-based tactical RPG, I guess. I bought it when it came out a long time ago, played it through, and never really thought about it again, so I'd say it's fairly forgettable. From what I recall it was somewhat difficult, the exploration was annoying (encounters were fixed, it wasn't very clear where you could or should go), and it was really, really short.

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Ravenger
Sep 20, 2004

Sgt. Anime Pederast posted:

Can anyone recommend some games on GOG that have minimal/no use of the mouse? I'm trying to get some games to play on my netbook. Already have MOO2, but it's annoying to use the mouse that much.

I'm thinking about blood, maybe some other fpses, but need some other ideas.

Get a cheap bluetooth laser mouse. Makes playing games much easier, and you can use a laser mouse on virtually any surface.

Firebert
Aug 16, 2004

Megadyptes posted:

Not whilst it's being sold :colbert:

wow, the "abandonware" version shows up in like the first couple google hits. I retract my statement (it's still a really good game).

Sporkles
Mar 15, 2010

AxeManiac posted:

I'll keep an eye on that, in the meantime, is Castle 1 &2 worth my time? I dunno it if it is too old or not. I can play games like MOM and MOO no problem, but not sure if I would like Castles.

I own Castles 1&2, I've honestly never touched 1, I bought the package in particular because of Castles 2, for nostalgia's sake (I played it a ton as a kid) - the graphics are wicked dated and it can be slightly clunky at times, but it's still fun and I get a kick out of it.

electrigger
Dec 18, 2005

so gay and you don't even like boys
Question for HoMM fans. Never really played the series but it looks like something I could definitely get into. Is it worth it to pick up HoMM3 or would my money be better spent on something like Kings Bounty?

Vidmaster
Oct 26, 2002



electrigger posted:

Question for HoMM fans. Never really played the series but it looks like something I could definitely get into. Is it worth it to pick up HoMM3 or would my money be better spent on something like Kings Bounty?

It is worth it to pick up HOMM3. It will probably still be worth it to pick up HOMM3 in 50 years, it's just really awesome all around. Kings Bounty is good and HOMM5 is also pretty good, but 3 is really the pinnacle of the series in my opinion.

Hipster Scumbag
Apr 6, 2007

by T. Finn
I prefer King's Bounty myself - play Armored Princess, not the original KB.

Corin Tucker's Stalker
May 27, 2001


One bullet. One gun. Six Chambers. These are my friends.

Hipster Scumbag posted:

I prefer King's Bounty myself - play Armored Princess, not the original KB.
Or get the gold pack when it's on sale and play both, because the original is still a really good 30+ hour game. I don't see it as an either/or type of thing.

Jarvisi
Apr 17, 2001

Green is still best.

Ravenger posted:

Get a cheap bluetooth laser mouse. Makes playing games much easier, and you can use a laser mouse on virtually any surface.

Thanks for the answer that doesn't help me at all!

null_user01013
Nov 13, 2000

Drink up comrades

Sgt. Anime Pederast posted:

Can anyone recommend some games on GOG that have minimal/no use of the mouse? I'm trying to get some games to play on my netbook. Already have MOO2, but it's annoying to use the mouse that much.

I'm thinking about blood, maybe some other fpses, but need some other ideas.

I've ran into a not so similar problem. I have an HP touchsmart laptop tablet and I was hoping to be able to play all these games with my touch screen folded over, no keyboard. But the mouse doesn't work that way in most DOS games and I get errors with mouse cursors and all sorts of dumb stuff. Only newer or Windows based games work, so I have to play with my stupid mouse pad thing on the keyboard and I hate that thing. So I either look for games that are all mouse or no mouse.

I played a few of the older build engine games, they all work fine without mouse. They seem more awkward with the mouse. But you won't find much besides action games that don't use the mouse really.

glug
Mar 12, 2004

JON JONES APOLOGIST #1

Corin Tucker's Stalker posted:

Or get the gold pack when it's on sale and play both, because the original is still a really good 30+ hour game. I don't see it as an either/or type of thing.

Agree 100%. Support those developers, they took the precursor to a fading series and beat out their current offerings. KB/AP really kicked rear end, and I'm happy with how many improvements they made with the 'expansion'.

The Machine
Dec 15, 2004
Rage Against / Welcome to

AxeManiac posted:

I'll keep an eye on that, in the meantime, is Castle 1 &2 worth my time? I dunno it if it is too old or not. I can play games like MOM and MOO no problem, but not sure if I would like Castles.

I've got Castles for nostalgia purposes, and I love it.

Still, Lords of the Realm 2 might be the way to go.

StickySweater
Feb 7, 2008

Sgt. Anime Pederast posted:

Games with little or no mouse.

Back in the day I used to play Descent I-III, and possibly Freespace as well with only the keyboard... not sure about FS though... I can't remember. But I know you can with Descent. This was a time when using the mouse as the primary tool in FPS and space sims still hadn't become the primary interface. So certainly, those games will work that way, but it might be a bit uncomfortable or unnatural if your not used to this play style. Great games though either way so you might want to try it out. I'm sure there's still a demo version of the first Descent out there you can get.

Another game I occasionally push on this site is Solar Winds I and II. I is the "shareware version," but it's really the first part. II is harder to come by but I know it's out there. It's a top down shooter/adventure game. It requires a small amount of reading, but it's mostly, figuring out where you have to go, communicating with people and some fighting. Its got some cool features like energy allocation (shields, weapons, hyperdrive, etc). That's an all keyboard game, but it does require dos box to run on a post Windows 98 system, which I'm guessing you have :downs:

Another game I'm pretty sure you can get cheap on the Aprogee site is Raptor which is highly acclaimed. I played the demo and thought it was a lot of fun. I never got around to getting the full game, but I agree, it's probably worth it.

The last option I guess is the 2.5D shooters like Doom, Heretic, Wolfenstein 3D, Quake, Dark Forces etc. Most of those games can be played with mouse or keyboard, although back in the day, I think it was almost exclusively a keyboard centric genre, so you shouldn't have a problem adapting to that. A lot of those games can be found on Steam.

xX_WEED_GOKU_Xx
Apr 30, 2010

by Ozma
I've beaten Freespace 1 with just a laptop keyboard. It's hard though!

Porndwarf
Dec 23, 2003

Have you seen me?
So if I've never played a Settlers game, which one should I start with?

The Machine
Dec 15, 2004
Rage Against / Welcome to

Porndwarf posted:

So if I've never played a Settlers game, which one should I start with?

2 is great, the Anniversary Edition of 2 (which is newer and NOT on GOG) is even better, in my opinon.

Either, or, I guess. The newer one is all fancy and in 3D.

GoldenNugget
Mar 27, 2008
:dukedog:

Cool Hand Leukemia posted:

I've beaten Freespace 1 with just a laptop keyboard. It's hard though!

Before I started using the mouse with Freespace 2, I was playing pretty well with just keyboard. It was pretty much the same except you used 2, 4, 6, and 8 on the numpad to steer.

Luisfe
Aug 17, 2005

Hee-lo-ho!
Got Lords of the Realm pack mainly for Lords 2, since I still have my Lords 1 CD.
Is there a castle designer in Lords 2, or am I stuck with a bunch of premade ones?
Also: Is it somehow possible to put the cd's spech files or something for the GOG version of Lords 1?

Tecman
Sep 11, 2003

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Pillbug
Patch / Update time again.
Updates zBlood: http://www.nanoaugur.net/blood/One_Unit_Whole_Mods_Patch_0.9.5.rar
Fixes the Bloodlines mod: http://www.nanoaugur.net/blood/One_Unit_Whole_Mods_Patch_0.9.6.rar

Please note that if you're installing this package (the original 0.9.3 version) and are just getting started, you need all three patches - 0.9.4 updates the launcher, while 0.9.5 updates zBlood and 0.9.6 fixes the Bloodlines mod's textures, and the newer patches do not contain the updated launcher from the first patch! I'll probably release another packaged version with all the updates so it doesn't confuse new people soon-ish after some more fixes are applied.

Thanks to SwissCM for bringing the zBlood issue to my attention. :)

Tecman fucked around with this message at 04:40 on May 1, 2010

Firebert
Aug 16, 2004

Luisfe posted:

Is there a castle designer in Lords 2, or am I stuck with a bunch of premade ones?

Nope, just the prefab ones, it's like the only thing seriously lacking from the game. They did add a castle editor to 3, but it's a vastly different game.

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

I'm playing Master of Magic for the first time in years, on average. Holy hell, I do not remember the economy being so hard to manage. I remember unrest being a major problem, so I've been diligent about building unrest-lowering structures early, but I just can't seem to raise the funds for the kinds of armies the CPU is throwing around. And of course they're all at war with me.

AG3
Feb 4, 2004

Ask me about spending hundreds of dollars on Mass Effect 2 emoticons and Avatars.

Oven Wrangler
This is one of the reasons why pure life wizards are so game-breaking. Start with Stream of Life, cast on city, set tax rate to max and everyone is still happy. Unrest isn't too hard to manage though unless you lack the economy to build enough buildings like temples, or you're playing a race with very few of them. Unless of course you can't afford to lower taxes a bit until the next shrine/temple/parthenon/cathedral is finished.

Big Sean
Jan 18, 2010
Eh I just gave the stream of life build a try... it was pretty good, probably better if I had picked elves, but I think invulnerability is still probably better if you are going 11 life.

Underwhelmed
Mar 7, 2004


Nap Ghost

Velius posted:

On Odium/Gorky 17:

It's a turn-based tactical RPG, I guess. I bought it when it came out a long time ago, played it through, and never really thought about it again, so I'd say it's fairly forgettable. From what I recall it was somewhat difficult, the exploration was annoying (encounters were fixed, it wasn't very clear where you could or should go), and it was really, really short.

The combat isn't straight up Xcom or Jagged alliance like either (if I recall correctly) Attacks have very specific ranges and set templates for what squares they hit. A gun for example might allow you to target the 4 squares in any one cardinal direction, but not diagonals. Or another weapon may hit a square 2 steps away in each diagonal. Think of it a little bit like chess in that respect.

If all of this sounds cool, it really isn't. the game was not at all interesting or rewarding enough to justify the tedium and difficulty.

Das MicroKorg
Sep 18, 2005

Vintage Analog Synthesizer

Underwhelmed posted:

The combat isn't straight up Xcom or Jagged alliance like either (if I recall correctly) Attacks have very specific ranges and set templates for what squares they hit. A gun for example might allow you to target the 4 squares in any one cardinal direction, but not diagonals. Or another weapon may hit a square 2 steps away in each diagonal. Think of it a little bit like chess in that respect.

If all of this sounds cool, it really isn't. the game was not at all interesting or rewarding enough to justify the tedium and difficulty.
I bought the boxed game for $5 a couple of years ago and really enjoyed it. There were many exciting fights where I only had a couple of bullets and was totally outnumbered, but still managed to win because of pure strategy. I think chess is a good comparison. It is really short, but for that price it's a fun way to spend an afternoon - if you are into strategy like this.

AG3
Feb 4, 2004

Ask me about spending hundreds of dollars on Mass Effect 2 emoticons and Avatars.

Oven Wrangler

Big Sean posted:

Eh I just gave the stream of life build a try... it was pretty good, probably better if I had picked elves, but I think invulnerability is still probably better if you are going 11 life.

Stream of Life is better if you're left/leave others alone long enough for Invulnerability to not see much use. If you're going to use units a lot though, Invulnerability might be a better pick. Provided you can afford those units, of course (which Stream of Life helps with).

I won't say that Invulnerability isn't hilariously useful/broken/overpowered though. Paladins + Invulnerability is especially insane, since Invulnerability also removes 3 (or was it 4?) points of damage from the first attack that is even capable of damaging them, and paladins are pretty nasty to begin with.

I can never play as anything but High Men, despite knowing how cheap it is :( I also annihilate/conquer any neutral High Men towns I see immediately before the computer can capture them, just so I won't have to deal with Paladins myself later.

A Nice Big Dinner
Feb 17, 2006

I don't think I like Redneck Rampage all that much.

I'm sorry. :(

spiritual bypass
Feb 19, 2008

Grimey Drawer
Eh, me either. On the other hand, you simply must try Blood.

Charles Martel
Mar 7, 2007

"The Hero of the Age..."

The hero of all ages

BigJoe posted:

I don't think I like Redneck Rampage all that much.

I'm sorry. :(

What is wrong with you?!

Try Blood, Duke Nukem 3D, and Rise of the Triad. :)

Smegma Enigma
Mar 7, 2006

[T-2:25] Overwhelming sense of well-being and euphoria
Any chance GOG will ever add Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain? I have been longing to play that game again for years.

Andrigaar
Dec 12, 2003
Saint of Killers

Smegma Enigma posted:

Any chance GOG will ever add Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain? I have been longing to play that game again for years.

I'd like this simply because of how messed up this game is on even semi-modern systems. Depending what's on the screen it jumps between 1x speed and 2x+ on and off with no pattern I noticed. Or it did in XP anyway, I haven't tried installing it in Vista or 7 that I can remember.

al-azad
May 28, 2009



Smegma Enigma posted:

Any chance GOG will ever add Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain? I have been longing to play that game again for years.

They'd have to secure Crystal Dynamics which means securing Eidos which means securing Square Enix so who knows. If they did secure Eidos then that means we'd probably get Omikron which is impossible to run on anything that's not Windows 98.

evilmiera
Dec 14, 2009

Status: Ravenously Rambunctious

The Machine posted:

I've got Castles for nostalgia purposes, and I love it.

Still, Lords of the Realm 2 might be the way to go.

Yes. Yes it is.

A long bit of my childhood was spent trying to get past some of the earlier maps (after which I learned the patterns better and just started beating the maps en masse).

I think I cheated at some point, but for the most part I just let the game run it's course normally since it was such a bother. There was just this one map I couldn't beat at the time that seemed horribly skewed against me.

Loved it's setting, loved how every unit had it's place, and equipping all your men properly before war. Diplomacy, if a bit useless, was always passive-aggresive fun.

Dr. Video Games 0031
Jul 17, 2004

al-azad posted:

They'd have to secure Crystal Dynamics which means securing Eidos which means securing Square Enix so who knows. If they did secure Eidos then that means we'd probably get Omikron which is impossible to run on anything that's not Windows 98.

And getting the original Tomb Raider games would be kind of cool. And maybe the lovely FF7 and 8 ports with the fan patches already applied.

Das MicroKorg
Sep 18, 2005

Vintage Analog Synthesizer

Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:

And getting the original Tomb Raider games would be kind of cool.
I'm currently replaying the original Tomb Raider (which was the first full-priced game I had bought, back when it came out way over ten years ago :allears: ) and while it runs fine on modern systems, the sound is often scrambled up and the CD Audio isn't playing. A GoG Version would be awesome! I'm really amazed how great the level design and gameplay hold up today.

Grawl
Aug 28, 2008

Do the D.A.N.C.E
1234, fight!
Stick to the B.E.A.T
Get ready to ignite
You were such a P.Y.T
Catching all the lights
Just easy as A.B.C
That's how we make it right

al-azad posted:

If they did secure Eidos then that means we'd probably get Omikron which is impossible to run on anything that's not Windows 98.

I was so happy when I found the game for cheap on EBay. I wasn't happy when I was done installing. :(

AG3
Feb 4, 2004

Ask me about spending hundreds of dollars on Mass Effect 2 emoticons and Avatars.

Oven Wrangler

Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:

And getting the original Tomb Raider games would be kind of cool. And maybe the lovely FF7 and 8 ports with the fan patches already applied.

Getting FF7 and 8 with the PSX music instead of the lovely midi they shipped with would be awesome. That said, I still preferred the PC version of FF8 to the PAL PS version, since the graphics were better and it didn't have the slower animations that the PAL Playstation version did. I never really noticed it either until I was at a mate's place and he played the NTSC version on a modded PS. I was blown away by how much quicker and more fluid the map movement and battle animations were compared to the PAL version. He always bought the NTSC version of games for that reason (and he got titles that us dirty Europeans usually never got). God, was I jealous then...

The only thing the slow battle animations for PAL FF8 were good for was timing the Renzokuken triggers. They were pretty much impossible to miss on PAL.

I can't imagine Square Enix signing up with them though. Of course, If they did I'd be all over their catalogue.

Andrigaar
Dec 12, 2003
Saint of Killers
MDK hasn't aged all that well visually, but, goddamnit is it still fun as hell. Even with the potentially stomach churning tilt the screen does whenever you turn.

It also maps decently well to a 360 pad... which isn't surprising at all since it's a PSX layout with the D-pad and L-analog swapped :ssh:

Dominic White
Nov 1, 2005

One game I'd love to see GoG adopt is Incubation. A very nice Space Hulk-ish turnbased tactical combat game. A lot of the missions played like puzzles, giving you very limited space to maneuver, limited equipment, and some very tricky alien formations to cut through.

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AG3
Feb 4, 2004

Ask me about spending hundreds of dollars on Mass Effect 2 emoticons and Avatars.

Oven Wrangler

Dominic White posted:

One game I'd love to see GoG adopt is Incubation. A very nice Space Hulk-ish turnbased tactical combat game. A lot of the missions played like puzzles, giving you very limited space to maneuver, limited equipment, and some very tricky alien formations to cut through.

Incubation was awesome. Pretty challenging though, the first time I played it I dropped it in frustration. Restarted it a year or two later and had a much better time with it. I can't remember well, but I seem to remember that some of the weapon choices were unintuitive or just outright bad for some reason, and that some upgrade paths were hard to understand. Can't really remember though... Hmm, I should rummage through my game stash some day and see if I can't find the game again...

Right after I work through my enormous Steam and GoG list of games I've yet to play a single time...

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