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Fnoigy posted:Wait, Deus Ex editor? What? There's a Deus Ex editor? http://offtopicproductions.com/tacks/GettingStarted.html Enjoy.
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Vita posted:Is it just me or does Striker make the game really hard? I can't face any enemies on Medium without dying in what feels like 3 shots with perfect accuracy and yet it takes me 10 seconds just to get a bead on them. First of all it's Shifter. Secondly, the game's just like that. You have to learn to deal with it.
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May 2, 2010 17:43
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The game's not a shooter. Get used to it. Sneaking through, laying traps, turning the enemies' defenses against themselves, sniping; these are all more useful and productive than going in guns blazing. At least they are before you're all SUPER AWESOME MODDED NANO AGENT MK11.5.
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May 2, 2010 17:50
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Marund posted:I disagree, master everything makes the game utterly hilarious and thus more fun.
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May 2, 2010 19:35
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Shumagorath posted:Doesn't the skill point ceiling eventually crash the game? Never gave me any trouble.
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May 2, 2010 19:36
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God I hate MOD DB and its use for FilePlanet so drat much. It is taking forever to download the New Vision mod.
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May 2, 2010 19:42
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Fnoigy posted:Wait, Deus Ex editor? What? There's a Deus Ex editor? To quote myself a few pages back: Retro-Future Rodent posted:I've been dicking around with modding and have created a buggy crossbow that fires EMP and Scrambler darts. The game gets confused if I try to switch between it and a regular crossbow though, so it needs work. Anyway here are some details for the curious, sorry if they're a bit jumbled or vague. And that pack comes with UnrealEd2, a much more capable editor.
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May 2, 2010 19:51
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Shumagorath posted:Doesn't the skill point ceiling eventually crash the game? There is a certain point, I don't know what, but when the skill points reach a certain level the game just up and crashes- so you might not know you overdid it until all of a sudden at endgame some vital objective winds up consistently crashing your game.
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May 2, 2010 19:52
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Chunderbucket posted:There is a certain point, I don't know what, but when the skill points reach a certain level the game just up and crashes- so you might not know you overdid it until all of a sudden at endgame some vital objective winds up consistently crashing your game. If you've got that many skillpoints, you're probably cheating / glitching anyway, so just use the SetSkillPoints command and set it to 0, shouldn't that fix it?
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May 2, 2010 19:53
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Marund posted:If you've got that many skillpoints, you're probably cheating / glitching anyway, so just use the SetSkillPoints command and set it to 0, shouldn't that fix it? Yes, this only happens when you're exploiting that glitch to get massive points. edit: sorry, ones you've spent on skills apparently count, it's not just the leftovers in your character screen.
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May 2, 2010 19:54
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Huh, that's odd, I just did a "gently caress it cheat the hell out of the game for hilarity's sake" run and never ran into any issues with that.
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May 2, 2010 19:56
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So really the best way to play currently is New Vision + Shifter + Biomod, correct? Or is there another mod out there that's worth throwing in?
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May 2, 2010 20:26
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IMO it's better to have the game look consistent than have some really high res textures on primitive geometry and a couple of high-poly models out of place in a 2000 game. Biomod is pretty awesome though, and worth a playthrough. Biomod is built off of Shifter so you don't need to install one, then the other or something like that.
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May 2, 2010 20:32
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Fuzz posted:So really the best way to play currently is New Vision + Shifter + Biomod, correct? Or is there another mod out there that's worth throwing in? I think it's best vanilla, save for the dx10 renderer, bug fixer and maybe new vision
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May 2, 2010 20:37
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yeah, I'd save Shifter for the second or third time through, it's one of the best PC games ever, you owe it at least one vanilla playthrough.
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May 2, 2010 20:42
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Christ, you people. I bought the game on release day in 2000 and beat it 3 times already. Now answer the drat question. 
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May 2, 2010 20:47
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New Vision isn't done yet and half-done texture packs just look jarring to me. I'd say go with Shifter and use Biomod if you liked the better aspects of IW's mod mechanics.
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May 2, 2010 20:50
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Only three times in 10 years? Get the hell out (yeah that's probably a fine setup if you want to try something new and don't mind half-finished texture packs)
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May 2, 2010 20:50
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Fag Boy Jim posted:yeah, I'd save Shifter for the second or third time through, it's one of the best PC games ever, you owe it at least one vanilla playthrough. Yeah, playing it vanilla is kind of necessary. I'm on my second playthrough and using Shifter--I like some of the small nuances it fixes up (stackable knives, other things I can't think of, unique weapons) but some of it I don't care for (skill point deductions, child killing penalties; oh, the child killing penalties).
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May 2, 2010 21:01
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penalizing you for killing Louis Pan is reason enough to completely reject Shifter
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May 2, 2010 21:04
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Shifter is already included in Biomod, so that makes it Biomod + New Vision.
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May 2, 2010 21:15
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Fag Boy Jim posted:penalizing you for killing Louis Pan is reason enough to completely reject Shifter My third playthrough I just followed him around for a while and it was great. It's even greater if you are playing on unrealistic as Hungry Kid JC.
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May 2, 2010 21:22
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Shifter is worth it just for how loving hilarious it is to kill people with a thrown crowbar to the head (or knock them out with a thrown baton. So sad you can't throw the cattle prod).
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May 2, 2010 21:41
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Shifter is worth it just to be able to use Zyme to go into bullettime and hack five UNATCO soldiers to death with a sword in seconds.
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May 2, 2010 22:11
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Ansob. posted:Shifter is worth it just for how loving hilarious it is to kill people with a thrown crowbar to the head (or knock them out with a thrown baton. So sad you can't throw the cattle prod). For a silent takedown toss a crate off a building
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May 2, 2010 22:17
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etalian posted:For a silent takedown toss a crate off a building You can also goomba enemies. 
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May 2, 2010 23:14
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This time I sneaked via the front and freed Gunther. I forgot the UNATCO Chief chided you for messing about the ladies room.
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May 2, 2010 23:54
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Fuzz posted:What's the best way to take out Navarre WITHOUT just blowing her up before she gets to Lebedev? Flamethrower
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May 3, 2010 00:59
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I knocked Louis Pan out by throwing a vase at his head, then I dumped him in the canal. Shifter really should give you points for that.
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May 3, 2010 01:29
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etalian posted:For a silent takedown toss a crate off a building A nonlethal takedown is always the most silent takedown.
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Flamethrower I actually managed to shoot her enough times in the head right as she raised her gun at Lebedev. It seems like if she's already targeting him, she won't kill you as quickly. Lebedev survived.
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Ballistic protection at level 4 seems like I'm cheating. Good thing I saved up three upgrade canisters to do it as soon as possible. 
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May 3, 2010 01:47
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Mike the TV posted:Ballistic protection at level 4 seems like I'm cheating. Good thing I saved up three upgrade canisters to do it as soon as possible. Legs are so much more worth it than ballistic protection.
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fleshweasel posted:I actually managed to shoot her enough times in the head right as she raised her gun at Lebedev. It seems like if she's already targeting him, she won't kill you as quickly. Lebedev survived. I don't know if this is new in Shifter or what, but hitting her with the prod stuns her the same as anyone else. If you get your prod out before the conversation starts, and you're fast enough, you can rush over as JC pulls it out again and zap her before she kills Lebedev. After that you just get out your hugest gun, point it at her head, and start shooting wildly (or in my case, beat her futilely with a baton and then die  ).
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May 3, 2010 02:40
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Due to replaying this I decided to rewatch the Human Revolution Trailer. Don't let us down again Eidos please!
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I'm still pretty optimistic about DX3. Moreso than Thi4f at least, since they went with a subtitle instead of "Deus 3x"
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There is a work around to killing Anna. Just leave her some presents at the front of the plane when you're on your way in to talk to Lebedev. One thing I love about Deus Ex is how everyone has to use the entrances and exits just like you.
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May 3, 2010 02:55
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Jetsetlemming posted:Thi4f I thought you were joking but it appears someone--or multiple people--thought this was a cool hip new name for the next game in a franchise that would really click with their target demo. Only in the Marketing department, folks!
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Found something nifty at the gas station. At the very beginning, you have to get the key from the bums (or by the corpse) to open that little drainage tunnel to the station proper. The door you unlock is breakable and pickable, and behind it is a regular unlocked iron bar door. You can use the key to LOCK that door, though, and it's inf strength / inf pick. That, combined with the giant open area with almost nothing in it that you start in, leads me to believe they originally planned for there to be more to do before you get to head up to the gas station and getting the key would have been required, rather than optional, in order to open the barred door. Just a guess.
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Carbohydrates posted:Found something nifty at the gas station. At the very beginning, you have to get the key from the bums (or by the corpse) to open that little drainage tunnel to the station proper. The door you unlock is breakable and pickable, and behind it is a regular unlocked iron bar door. You can use the key to LOCK that door, though, and it's inf strength / inf pick. That, combined with the giant open area with almost nothing in it that you start in, leads me to believe they originally planned for there to be more to do before you get to head up to the gas station and getting the key would have been required, rather than optional, in order to open the barred door.
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