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AtomicManiac posted:A Photo and a question for you folks: I go alone most of the time, but I bring my girlfriend every now and again if I can swing an extra ticket on the list. Back when I was in MI and knew drat near everyone I always went alone because we had a circle of concert photos that were actually friends outside of shooting, so we'd shoot the show and then go out and get some food after.
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I usually go alone but there are often a lot of people I know at the shows I shoot. Another one from the A Loss for Words show (I know I cut off the tip again but I was shooting pretty much in the dark). 
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Apr 16, 2010 17:52
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Went down to Louisville's Waterfront Wednesday and shot the three acts they had play. All three were drat good with The Legendary Shack Shakers being one of the best live bands I have ever seen. The frontman was like Mick Jagger, Iggy Pop, Pete Seeger and Skip James all rolled into one. Otis Gibbs  The Holmes Brothers (amazing gospel-soul)    The Legendary Shack Shakers     And my favorite shot of the night 
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Apr 23, 2010 00:09
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I tried to neutralise the red lighting as best I could, but still wanted to keep a little for the "feel" of the night. Now, I'm wondering if I should have used B&W. They wanted "tight" pics, so I used my 70-200 f2.8.     
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Apr 27, 2010 01:51
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No, keep the light red. I really like the feel it gives these.
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Apr 27, 2010 22:27
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Anti_Social posted:No, keep the light red. I really like the feel it gives these. Completely agree. Those are wonderful.
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Apr 27, 2010 23:45
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What is the intent for the photos? For your port/for print?
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Apr 28, 2010 00:30
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Yea, just my portfolio and something for their social media pages, nothing too professional.
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Apr 28, 2010 04:34
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Might actually have a job shooting Flogging Molly tonight, if only their press agent will write me back and confirm I'm on the access list. drat, do I want this to happen. Edit: I'm in  Anti_Social posted:jackpot fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Apr 29, 2010 |
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Apr 29, 2010 16:27
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I had to give up Flogging Molly to take some social affair dance thing. Blah. Shot the Goo Goo Dolls the other night. I took a really bad angle and did not get a lot of shots. Here is the best of the night: 
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Apr 29, 2010 22:28
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I had just way too much fun doing this, the whole loving experience ruled. Except for the B.O. Half the people there hadn't had a bath since March, Christ. I've hardly had a chance to do anything yet, but here's a few:     Hey Eeek, who do you shoot for? I assume you can't just bring an SLR into a concert like that without a press pass.
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Apr 30, 2010 08:21
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What's with the massive amount of empty space on that last shot?
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Apr 30, 2010 09:59
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It was 3am and I was exhausted when I posted that; I thought "Whoa, what interesting framing." This morning it's not as interesting to me. I remember wanting to get the lights and his head in the same shot, I just didn't do a very good job of it.
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Apr 30, 2010 14:01
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jackpot posted:Hey Eeek, who do you shoot for? I assume you can't just bring an SLR into a concert like that without a press pass. I shoot for a newspaper. I am a independent contractor. When I first started, I tried to bring in an SLR, but there are very few places that will let you. However, the place Flogging Molly is playing, they will let you bring in an SLR. Not so much when I shoot arenas.
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Apr 30, 2010 22:07
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Eeek posted:I shoot for a newspaper. I am a independent contractor. When I first started, I tried to bring in an SLR, but there are very few places that will let you. However, the place Flogging Molly is playing, they will let you bring in an SLR. Not so much when I shoot arenas.
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Apr 30, 2010 22:21
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Man, i really need to try and get into some legitimate venues. I haven't shot a show that has lighting anywhere near any of what some of you guys have done.
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Apr 30, 2010 22:49
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This is an old one I missed on my first run of editing, can't believe I didn't grab it earlier: e: it's Between The Buried And Me
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Apr 30, 2010 23:55
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I, Butthole posted:This is an old one I missed on my first run of editing, can't believe I didn't grab it earlier: Nice! I'm shooting them in 2 weeks with Mastodon, it's my first "Big" shoot. Any advice?
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May 1, 2010 00:10
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AtomicManiac posted:Nice! I'm shooting them in 2 weeks with Mastodon, it's my first "Big" shoot. Any advice? Split your lungs with blood and thunder when you see the white whale.
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AtomicManiac posted:Nice! I'm shooting them in 2 weeks with Mastodon, it's my first "Big" shoot. Any advice? Longer lens than 50mm. The lead singer loves to jump from the front of the stage to behind the keyboard, which when I shot them was about 5 meters back from the pit. My 70-200 arrived the next day  Also, i fucken love silhouettes  The Break (Midnight Oil/Violent Femmes supergroup that plays instrumental surf rock. yeah.)  Hoodoo Gurus  The Break
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May 4, 2010 23:43
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jackpot posted:
Great shots. I would KILL to see Flogging Molly in concert!
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May 5, 2010 00:36
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jackpot posted:
Amesome. They really are a great live band.
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May 5, 2010 00:48
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Security told me straight off that I could be in the pit for the first three songs only; I was kinda surprised at this, since they're not what I'd consider a big-enough band to warrant something like that, but ok (By the way, what's the logic on the three-song limit? It was the same rule for every band, even the local one. Is it just that you're a distraction, up front like that?). Lighting was great (lots of blue and yellow, thankfully not much red), security was friendly as hell, and the bartender offered me free coke refills. This place is very camera-unfriendly, so it was cool seeing every security guard's expression go from "rear end in a top hat with camera, must smash" to a friendly head-nod and wave once they saw my access pass. I shot til the end of the third song, then (like an rear end in a top hat) when I didn't get booted I decided to keep on shooting. Made it to the end of the fifth song before a guard tapped me and said "Sorry, I gotta get you out of here now." He was friendly about it, though; earlier in that last song Dave King gave me the finger, and me being over the limit might've been why. Then again he was probably just saying hi; he gives everyone the finger. The whole experience was a blast, I loved it.
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jackpot posted:Security told me straight off that I could be in the pit for the first three songs only; I was kinda surprised at this, since they're not what I'd consider a big-enough band to warrant something like that, but ok (By the way, what's the logic on the three-song limit? It was the same rule for every band, even the local one. Is it just that you're a distraction, up front like that?). Lighting was great (lots of blue and yellow, thankfully not much red), security was friendly as hell, and the bartender offered me free coke refills. This place is very camera-unfriendly, so it was cool seeing every security guard's expression go from "rear end in a top hat with camera, must smash" to a friendly head-nod and wave once they saw my access pass. I shot til the end of the third song, then (like an rear end in a top hat) when I didn't get booted I decided to keep on shooting. Made it to the end of the fifth song before a guard tapped me and said "Sorry, I gotta get you out of here now." He was friendly about it, though; earlier in that last song Dave King gave me the finger, and me being over the limit might've been why. Then again he was probably just saying hi; he gives everyone the finger. The whole experience was a blast, I loved it. I've shot for 6 years and 98% of the time unless it's just a band at a bar, this rule applies. Barring you knowing the band and them telling security to let you shoot the whole show. It's usually the house policy and they do it for every show. I think the general theory behind this is if you have a whole pit full of photographers between the crowd and the band it's distracting for both parties. As a guy in the front row, I'd be less than pleased if there were a bunch of photographers running in front of me for an hour blocking my view. If I was a performer, I'd rather see a front row of fans than a camera. For bigger shows, sometimes the bands have pyro and things that they don't want people leaning on the stage during. On a side note. Is anyone else shooting Ozzfest this year? I'm going to fly up to Hartford to shoot that date in August.
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jackpot posted:Security told me straight off that I could be in the pit for the first three songs only; I was kinda surprised at this, since they're not what I'd consider a big-enough band to warrant something like that, but ok (By the way, what's the logic on the three-song limit? It was the same rule for every band, even the local one. Is it just that you're a distraction, up front like that?). Lighting was great (lots of blue and yellow, thankfully not much red), security was friendly as hell, and the bartender offered me free coke refills. This place is very camera-unfriendly, so it was cool seeing every security guard's expression go from "rear end in a top hat with camera, must smash" to a friendly head-nod and wave once they saw my access pass. I shot til the end of the third song, then (like an rear end in a top hat) when I didn't get booted I decided to keep on shooting. Made it to the end of the fifth song before a guard tapped me and said "Sorry, I gotta get you out of here now." He was friendly about it, though; earlier in that last song Dave King gave me the finger, and me being over the limit might've been why. Then again he was probably just saying hi; he gives everyone the finger. The whole experience was a blast, I loved it. from GIS: http://bestuff.com/images/images_of_stuff/210x600/dave-king-47187.jpg
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May 5, 2010 21:53
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rockcity posted:As a guy in the front row, I'd be less than pleased if there were a bunch of photographers running in front of me for an hour blocking my view. If I was a performer, I'd rather see a front row of fans than a camera. MMD3 posted:from GIS: http://bestuff.com/images/images_of_stuff/210x600/dave-king-47187.jpg
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May 5, 2010 22:06
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The only time I've done a show with a photo pit and it wasn't 3 songs, it was for State of Shock and they let us shoot the whole set. I think they were shooting a video that night and wanted the photographers there to add atmosphere or something. Anyways, I wasn't complaining. Trouble was they were the headliner so after I while I ran out of card space and left because I couldn't shoot any more. When I'm in the pit, I try to stay low as possible because I've been at the barricade as a fan and I know how loving annoying it is when photographers stand up straight and block the view. I usually shoot up against the stage with the lens right around stage level to keep a low profile.
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I think the 3 song rule is for a couple of reasons: 1) You're blocking people's view (not important) 2) You can get hurt if a stage diver comes over the barricade (Important) 3) You're in the way of security (Important) 4) Unless you're seeing an indie/acoustic/shoe-gaze band, the band is going to be sweating like crazy by the end of the third song. Sweaty shots can look cool, if done right, but a lot of people don't know how to do that. (Very Important) John Mayer wrote a blog about Jim Marshall, and included a short paragraph blurb about the 3 song rule. http://jhnmyr.tumblr.com/page/2 Look for a shot of Jim giving the finger.
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AtomicManiac posted:I think the 3 song rule is for a couple of reasons: Funny I actually had a 10 minute conversation with John Mayer about Jim Marshall and the 3 song rule just two weeks ago at Coachella. He sat down at a table at a hotel next to me (have some friends in common I guess) and asked me if the lens on my camera was the 24mm f/1.4... I was a little caught off-guard by his knowledge of photography, apparently he has a 5d mkII, a 7d, and a Leica M9. I hadn't read his blog post at that point and I was telling him about this NYT article from a few years back http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/19/arts/19phot.html?_r=1 He started getting excited and telling me about how he had just wrote a blog post about the exact same thing. Pretty cool guy all in all, even if I'm not a fan of his lyrics. I took this photo of him checking out Andrew Andrew's iPad dj'ing setup with Ableton. 
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May 5, 2010 23:01
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Once the 3 songs have been and gone.. ya just gotta get creative with where you sneak off to ;D All of these were taken well after the press pit was clear.   
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MMD3 posted:this NYT article from a few years back http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/19/arts/19phot.html?_r=1  x 10.90 seconds of the first song? 5-10 seconds of a singer's entrance? I understand that there's nothing that can be done about it; if every single photographer tells 'em to eat poo poo and refuses to shoot the show, you know there'll be that one guy who does it just because he knows he's the only one. So there's no way to win. But goddamn, that's just ridiculous.
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Cyberbob posted:Once the 3 songs have been and gone.. ya just gotta get creative with where you sneak off to ;D I used to carry a Canon 135mm f/2.8 lens. That thing was great because it's so small compared to a 70-200 that I could shoot incognito from all sorts of places around the venue after the three songs.
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HPL posted:I used to carry a Canon 135mm f/2.8 lens. That thing was great because it's so small compared to a 70-200 that I could shoot incognito from all sorts of places around the venue after the three songs. Unless it's a big arena where you have an escort most venues/bands could give two shits if you're shooting from the crowd after the show. The only places I've had any trouble doing that were shows with say more than 10k people. I've never had anyone ask me to put my camera away at any shows with less than like 4000 people. On the opposite end some of the larger venues I've been to you have to actually physically put your gear in your car if you want to come back in to watch.
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May 6, 2010 21:33
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rockcity posted:Unless it's a big arena where you have an escort most venues/bands could give two shits if you're shooting from the crowd after the show. The only places I've had any trouble doing that were shows with say more than 10k people. I've never had anyone ask me to put my camera away at any shows with less than like 4000 people. It varies a lot. Sometimes you'll get grief from security if you start shooting somewhere after the three songs are over and you're out of the pit, sometimes you won't. But it's one of those things where the 135 looks so innocent compared to a 70-200 that people figure that you can't possibly be getting much of a shot when you're actually getting decent close-ups. The downside with the 135 is that it's kind of soft in image quality since it's a portrait lens and the AF is slower than molasses.
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So, in Tim McGraw promoter speak, tonight's front of house meant the back of house. Thank you, promoter.
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May 7, 2010 03:48
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Eeek posted:So, in Tim McGraw promoter speak, tonight's front of house meant the back of house. Thank you, promoter. That happens fairly often for big pop acts. List of groups I've had to shoot from back of the house include Bruce Springsteen, Christina Aguilera, Justin Timberlake, Pink, Omarion, probably more but I can't think of them. I was told 40 feet for Bruce Springsteen and it was probably 100 feet easy. There were newspapers shooting with 400's with extenders.
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Eeek posted:So, in Tim McGraw promoter speak, tonight's front of house meant the back of house. Thank you, promoter.  I see a few people way up there with point/shoots, maybe you should talk to them, work out a deal. 
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rockcity posted:That happens fairly often for big pop acts. List of groups I've had to shoot from back of the house include Bruce Springsteen, Christina Aguilera, Justin Timberlake, Pink, Omarion, probably more but I can't think of them. I was told 40 feet for Bruce Springsteen and it was probably 100 feet easy. There were newspapers shooting with 400's with extenders. Oh, I am use to it. I had my 2x in my bag. But I got my creds with the FOH designation, so I tok it out. Would have loved my monopod tonight, too. Oh well, can't win them all. I got a few big ones coming up- hopefully I can shoot in the same zip code.
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