SWATJester posted:

Hate you.


It's true, WCL sucks.

THE MACHO MAN posted:

I've been working full time for six years almost, so I'm basically trying to get a better job (journalism). Not totally grasping at straws yet! I was always moderately interested in law, and figured I'd give it a try.

evilweasel posted:

Rutgers is significantly worse than American (#48) in the rankings, so see the above story.

THE MACHO MAN posted:

Thanks again guys for the honest input

good luck covering your debts, I guess??

THE MACHO MAN posted:

Hey, sorry I'm bumping from like two pages ago but a couple people responded and I never got back

Thanks for this post, it was really informative and terribly depressing.

And yes guys, I am certainly not 100% deadset on lawschool. My good friend has basically been trying to talk me out of it since day 1, but said at the very least if I really wanna give it a try I should take the LSATs, apply and reassess when I get responses (basically where I am now)

I've been working full time for six years almost, so I'm basically trying to get a better job (journalism). Not totally grasping at straws yet! I was always moderately interested in law, and figured I'd give it a try. I just don't have much of an interest in grad school and that's really the only other option besides law for a stupid poo poo English degree.

So yeah, unless I get some kind of crazy offer from Rutgers, I'm probably not going.

The only other question I ask is how much does the date that you send your app affect the scholarship offers you receive?? I got a 160 on the lsat. My gpa is a 2.8, but it's low only because I basically pissed away a year and a half of undergrad and dropped out. I was something like a 3.3 when I re-entered, and I worked full time for four years in college with lots of community service poo poo too. Provided that I don't get any $ this year, is it worth applying very early next year to see if I get a ride, or not worth the time??

Defleshed posted:

So basically your only reasons for going to law school are "to get a better job" and "my undergrad is poo poo".

Hahaha, you basically ARE me. I'm not trying to be a dick, but you should not go to law school.

Incredulous Red posted:

quote:

Defleshed posted:

So basically your only reasons for going to law school are "to get a better job" and "my undergrad is poo poo".

Hahaha, you basically ARE me. I'm not trying to be a dick, but you should not go to law school.

7StoryFall posted:

Anyone know someone looking to sublet in NYC from June 1 to early August?

evilweasel posted:

Hahaha I felt slightly bad about that. My only experience with American is that while I was working at a firm between college and law school, one of the people I was working with was going to American at night. He applied to the firm we were working at, and even though he was already working there (in a non-lawyer capacity) they still just trashed his resume without even a rejection letter, and this was in either 2007 or 2008 (before the economy blew up).

He then quit to study for the bar without a job offer from anywhere and I'm sure that didn't turn out well for him

Incredulous Red posted:

Dude, how many times have you taken the LSAT, and when in the cycle did you apply? There are definitely schools who will take you with those numbers and interesting softs if you apply early enough. Can you somehow insinuate you are gay or a minority?

Also, don't go, last thing we need is more lawyers

SWATJester posted:

Seconding. I had similar numbers (sub 3.0 GPA and low-mid 160's LSAT) and I got in to AU. It's totally possible. You have to have a LOT of soft factors in your favor, and even then it's a matter of luck, but it's not impossible. I also got into several other similarly ranked schools (Cardozo, UF, Colorado-Boulder) so I really doubt it was a fluke.

On the other hand, that was 3 years ago, things may have changed.

Incredulous Red posted:

Seriously, though, I had a sub-3.0 gpa in a science major, plus a median-high LSAT, plus some fun soft factors. You know what that translates to? SCHOLARSHIP MONEY

Hell yeah minority ancestors. Hell yeah.

JudicialRestraints posted:

My grandpa spoke english as a second language and I grew up on an Indian reservation. Unfortunately I'm still white.

Incredulous Red posted:

Seriously the white man took your guys' land, least you can do is affirmative action his rear end out of higher education vato

Incredulous Red posted:

While reading con law I was suddenly struck by this thought:

The law is really this big bubble. The bubble is kept inflated and insulated by the outside world by arcane rituals known as "procedure" and a bizarre, self-actualizing force known as "stare decisis"- kind of like vacuum energy in the big bang. The Supreme court is kind of like the wall of the bubble, sometimes expanding, really just serving as a functional barrier between the outside and the artificial world within. But imagine a world where all processes within the bubble stopped, there would be only chaos and freedom and OH GOD KILL ME

SWATJester posted:

Seconding. I had similar numbers (sub 3.0 GPA and low-mid 160's LSAT) and I got in to AU. It's totally possible. You have to have a LOT of soft factors in your favor, and even then it's a matter of luck, but it's not impossible. I also got into several other similarly ranked schools (Cardozo, UF, Colorado-Boulder) so I really doubt it was a fluke.

On the other hand, that was 3 years ago, things may have changed.

JudicialRestraints posted:

My grandpa spoke english as a second language and I grew up on an Indian reservation. Unfortunately I'm still white.

THE MACHO MAN posted:

That sucks. Did you try contesting it??

In undergrad, I used to always get screwed on income because my parents were just above the need based for aid. I've got at least three ghettos (including good ol Newark) right next door, but my mostly white city screws me.

Gregor Samsa posted:

Yes, but I think its a studio in Harlem.

Incredulous Red posted:

While reading con law I was suddenly struck by this thought:

The law is really this big bubble. The bubble is kept inflated and insulated by the outside world by arcane rituals known as "procedure" and a bizarre, self-actualizing force known as "stare decisis"- kind of like vacuum energy in the big bang. The Supreme court is kind of like the wall of the bubble, sometimes expanding, really just serving as a functional barrier between the outside and the artificial world within. But imagine a world where all processes within the bubble stopped, there would be only chaos and freedom and OH GOD KILL ME

mrtoodles posted:

Yeah. Although nm says it's even higher now. I dunno about that. It's still a bunch of money for a pretty damned fun job. I am 3-0 in my last three trials.

CaptainScraps posted:

I answered a policy question in my ADR final with an answer of how civil procedure precluded his question.

But gently caress what he wanted, my answer was right.

JudicialRestraints posted:

!!!!

I just found a Taco Restaurant that will deliver what sounds like real Tacos AND rockstar energy drinks to my door.

I am so going to be undergoing gastronomic distress during property tomorrow morning.

e: it's called "The Taco Shop"

CmdrSmirnoff posted:

Yeah, good point.

If any Canadians are interested in the Toronto numbers this year, these guys keep an accurate tally. Last years were miserable as well, but unfortunately there's no data for earlier articling numbers.

nm posted:

My source for $88k was you. Maybe it is $83k and I misheard.

JudicialRestraints posted:

!!!!

I just found a Taco Restaurant that will deliver what sounds like real Tacos AND rockstar energy drinks to my door.

I am so going to be undergoing gastronomic distress during property tomorrow morning.

e: it's called "The Taco Shop"

Incredulous Red posted:

I had Buffalo Wild Wings for dinner last night and an exam at 8:30 this morning.

Tactical error.

Incredulous Red posted:

I had Buffalo Wild Wings for dinner last night and an exam at 8:30 this morning.

Tactical error.

JudicialRestraints posted:

Making disturbing noises and releasing noxious odors is a time tested strategy to freak the gently caress out of those around you and lower the curve.

Bonus points for beginning to sweat/pant followed by mumbled prayers/panting.

Incredulous Red posted:

The problem is that once you pop the cork, you gotta keep draining the bottle. loving capsaicin in your pipes is a terrible thing, but it does give you that nervous edge that pushes you to finish early, all the while unnerving those around you.


Alright, enough of this: Best Battletech mercenary unit. Go.

JudicialRestraints posted:

I don't play with little imaginary robots

e: unless dreadnaughts count

Incredulous Red posted:

While reading con law I was suddenly struck by this thought:

The law is really this big bubble. The bubble is kept inflated and insulated by the outside world by arcane rituals known as "procedure" and a bizarre, self-actualizing force known as "stare decisis"- kind of like vacuum energy in the big bang. The Supreme court is kind of like the wall of the bubble, sometimes expanding, really just serving as a functional barrier between the outside and the artificial world within. But imagine a world where all processes within the bubble stopped, there would be only chaos and freedom and OH GOD KILL ME

nm posted:

No cheese on tacos in madison?
Wow, hell has frozen over.

builds character posted:

nm posted:

No cheese on tacos in madison?
Wow, hell has frozen over.