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quepasa18 posted:I'm leaving my firm this summer to teach full-time (hooray!) and I'm not sure how much notice I should give. This is my third firm and I've been here almost a year. The first one I didn't like them and gave exactly 2 weeks' notice because I felt that was the minimum professional requirement. I got laid off from my second firm so giving notice wasn't an issue. Congrats. Big firm or small firm? If big firm, then two weeks. If small firm, then no idea.
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Ersatz posted:I appreciate it. Unfortunately though, based on what HR has told me, the new deal is that they have to approve a candidate before that candidate can sit down and talk to a SPE, so it's completely out of the SPE's hands if there isn't a current announcement. The bureaucratization of the hiring process has led to some absurd results. One of my friends from my former firm had three years of experience as an examiner, applied under the GS-11 announcement, and was rejected because they took so long in processing his application that he "missed" HR's arbitrary deadline for rehires. quote:Hiring: The USPTO is looking to hire 1000 additional patent examiners over the next two years. The bulk of these examiners would preferably be experienced IP professionals but could be part of a “nationwide workforce.” With the absence of funding, the PTO has hired only nine (9) examiners during FY2010 and 127 examiners have left their positions.
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builds character posted:Congrats. Big firm or small firm? If big firm, then two weeks. If small firm, then no idea. Small firm -- I'm one of 4 attorneys, and I'm only part-time.
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quepasa18 posted:Small firm -- I'm one of 4 attorneys, and I'm only part-time. Give 'em a month's notice.
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quepasa18 posted:Small firm -- I'm one of 4 attorneys, and I'm only part-time. So is this a tenure-track position (or the junior college equivalent?) Like an assistant professorship? I'm not sure whether all community colleges have a tenure track-esque system but all the ones I've encountered do.
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quepasa18 posted:Basically, I know my current firm will need to replace me, and it's likely to be with a new grad who might need some training. I was thinking of giving a month's notice, but I'm just not sure. I don't want to leave them high and dry, but I don't want to give too much notice in the event they are not happy with me leaving and ask me to go immediately (I don't anticipate that happening but you never know). No notice. Instead, let me seamlessly take your place and hope they don't notice.
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Incredulous Red posted:I had Buffalo Wild Wings for dinner last night and an exam at 8:30 this morning.
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Mr. Fictitious posted:their wings aren't even that good :-( I was hungry, and they're open until 1 am
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20 hours to learn con ii (1st and 14th amendments). i'm sure i'll just get a B anyway
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You've probably picked up most of con law ii elsewhere anyway since it's what pretty much everyone means when they refer to constitutional law (fundamental rights, degree of scrutiny, incorporation, permissible restrictions on advertising, campaign contributions, first amendment exception for provocations, etc.).
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prussian advisor posted:So is this a tenure-track position (or the junior college equivalent?) Like an assistant professorship? I'm not sure whether all community colleges have a tenure track-esque system but all the ones I've encountered do. Yes, tenure track. There's a 3-year probationary period and I'm already through the second year because I've been teaching half-time. So one more year and then I'm tenured! Good pay, good benefits, summers off, etc. I could not be more excited. This will be the first job I've ever had that I wasn't planning to leave at some point.
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HooKars posted:No notice. Instead, let me seamlessly take your place and hope they don't notice. If you were in Wisconsin, I'd recommend you, even though in reality I'm sure you'd hate it. I do collection and landlord/tenant, which is boring as hell. But it's easy, stress-free, and I hang out on the Internet most days in between hearings. My paralegal drafts everything for me and I just sign it. It isn't particularly intellectually stimulating though, and the pay isn't great. But it's been good for the short time I knew I'd need it until I could teach full-time.
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quepasa18 posted:Yes, tenure track. There's a 3-year probationary period and I'm already through the second year because I've been teaching half-time. So one more year and then I'm tenured! Good pay, good benefits, summers off, etc. I could not be more excited. This will be the first job I've ever had that I wasn't planning to leave at some point. loving fantastic, man. Not sure what junior colleges are like in your state, but I can tell you that in my old state, once you get on the tenure track, it rapidly becomes a job with great security, surprisingly high pay, convenient hours, low stress, all that good poo poo. Congratulations, man--if that job is anything like they are back home, you've just gotten a better job than easily 90% of the thread Are they going to have you teaching non-professional classes, ie classes for the normal associate's students?
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prussian advisor posted:loving fantastic, man. Not sure what junior colleges are like in your state, but I can tell you that in my old state, once you get on the tenure track, it rapidly becomes a job with great security, surprisingly high pay, convenient hours, low stress, all that good poo poo. Congratulations, man--if that job is anything like they are back home, you've just gotten a better job than easily 90% of the thread It's pretty much as you described. In the fall, I'll only have classes Tuesday through Thursday. So 4-day weekend every week, although I'll have grading to do and prep for class, but at my leisure at home. The job security is very good, and we have a good union that negotiates good pay. It is a sweet deal. I teach all paralegal classes, nothing gen ed, if that's what you mean. Pretty good for a TTT grad, huh?
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Green Crayons posted:SC Clerks are Candidates, the President is Jacob, the nomination process is the Island, the MiB are opposing party senators. My LRW final was legit lost-themed, I had to represent Hugo Reyes, sole proprietor of Reyes of Light vs John Locke, representative of the Island Condominium Poject
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quepasa18 posted:Pretty good for a TTT grad, huh? Pretty good for anyone, really. You should drop by the #lawgoons IRC channel on synirc when you have the time. I'd like to ask you some questions about your job if you're willing.
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Currently writing my transfer application for Minnesota and not having any luck with what to write about. What do I say other than "i really like your clinics and your school is like 100 spots up the ranking"?
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The Arsteia posted:Currently writing my transfer application for Minnesota and not having any luck with what to write about. What do I say other than "i really like your clinics and your school is like 100 spots up the ranking"? This is basically what I wrote all my personal statements about, without mentioning their spot in the rankings, of course. Most were all some variation on "I want to practice this kind of law, your school would put me in a better position to practice it because of <reasons>." Make sure you mention any ties (familial or otherwise) that you have to the area, even if it's not a "regionally-oriented" law school, or any history that you have with the law school or its underlying University, if only to make them realize that you actually care about that school in particular and aren't just spamming.
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prussian advisor posted:This is basically what I wrote all my personal statements about, without mentioning their spot in the rankings, of course. Most were all some variation on "I want to practice this kind of law, your school would put me in a better position to practice it because of <reasons>." Make sure you mention any ties (familial or otherwise) that you have to the area, even if it's not a "regionally-oriented" law school, or any history that you have with the law school or its underlying University, if only to make them realize that you actually care about that school in particular and aren't just spamming. I'm in the same metro area right now so it's not an issue of location. Also I went there for undergrad, I don't know how important that would be to mention?
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prussian advisor posted:This is basically what I wrote all my personal statements about, without mentioning their spot in the rankings, of course. Most were all some variation on "I want to practice this kind of law, your school would put me in a better position to practice it because of <reasons>." Make sure you mention any ties (familial or otherwise) that you have to the area, even if it's not a "regionally-oriented" law school, or any history that you have with the law school or its underlying University, if only to make them realize that you actually care about that school in particular and aren't just spamming. Prussian's very smart and he's been a help to me so I'll echo this, and also since I've had some early transfer success myself, I think it's a good idea to point out some particular programs you dig, and what the surrounding area has to offer you in terms of career prospects. I spent half of my PS talking about some history of why I wanted to practice law and what kind of law, and the second half gushing over the school and why I need to go there to get to my goal.
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Welp, got off the waiting list and assigned for the June 7 LSAT. Taking it now (I graduate next spring) to figure out whether I should even consider law school or spend the time lining up other options. I've got a mediocre (3.4) GPA so unless I get a 170+ I'll probably go the latter route.
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Hired Gun posted:Welp, got off the waiting list and assigned for the June 7 LSAT. Taking it now (I graduate next spring) to figure out whether I should even consider law school or spend the time lining up other options. I've got a mediocre (3.4) GPA so unless I get a 170+ I'll probably go the latter route. Why do you want to be a lawyer?
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Ainsley McTree posted:Why do you want to be a lawyer? He's just always wanted to practice the law
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Speaking as an extreme splitter who did everything the wrong way, here is how you avoid following in my steps if you get a 170+: Step 1: Apply early, early, early (but don't do binding early decision) Step 2: Get lots of money from schools ranked between 14-25 (and at least one acceptance from the t14) Step 3: Go somewhere for free (or near as makes no difference) don't pay full or even half price for law school you idiot ALTERNATIVELY Step 3b: gently caress law school, teach the LSAT it's a fun job
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I think that law school should have an entrance interview requirement, where you have to explain to the interviewer why you want to be a lawyer, what kind of law you want to practice, what's your plan to go about it etc etc to weed out the stupid people like me who think "well my undergrad is useless, why not law school next". It would save a lot of pain. But no, the only question is "did your financial aid come through?"
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Ainsley McTree posted:I think that law school should have an entrance interview requirement, where you have to explain to the interviewer why you want to be a lawyer, what kind of law you want to practice, what's your plan to go about it etc etc to weed out the stupid people like me who think "well my undergrad is useless, why not law school next". It would save a lot of pain. Everyone would just tell the interviewer that they want to practice international law in a big firm (just like all the personal statements) and would be accepted anyways.
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Why would the schools actually want to do this, instead of just taking some kid's money?
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Do you think its necessary to get professors to target rec letters for transferring? Like maybe I could have them write one target one for one school and then a general one for every other school?
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quepasa18 posted:If you were in Wisconsin, I'd recommend you, even though in reality I'm sure you'd hate it. I secretly think I hate all law and I just didn't realize it in time. Still - easy, stress-free and boring sounds right up my alley.
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Ainsley McTree posted:I think that law school should have an entrance interview requirement, where you have to explain to the interviewer why you want to be a lawyer, what kind of law you want to practice, what's your plan to go about it etc etc to weed out the stupid people like me who think "well my undergrad is useless, why not law school next". It would save a lot of pain. My answer was "I'm an rear end in a top hat and I want to get paid for it." Would that suffice?
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i want to be
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I interviewed recently for a legal job and I don't think the interview went very well. The main theme of the interview was "do you think well on your feet" and I answered all the variations of that question quite terribly since it's fairly difficult to answer those types of questions with no real world experience of any type in recent memory to relate to the interviewers. All of my answers were filled with "ums" and "uh"s as I reached back years to think of some situation of any significance that typified me "thinking on my feet". It was very unintentionally hilarious. The nadir came when I was asked: "A man and his son were in an automobile accident. The man died on the way to the hospital, but the boy was rushed into surgery. The emergency room surgeon said "I can't operate, that's my son!" How is this possible?" The Surgeon is his Mother! I couldn't get the answer to that (it seems so easy now), and now I feel like a big, sexist idiot. I think it was a joke so I doubt it'll change the outcome, but it really seemed to sum up the whole thing. Torpor fucked around with this message at 03:02 on May 12, 2010 |
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he has two gay dads
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What a stupid interview. I wouldn't work for that company anyways; they seem like dicks
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The surgeon is drunk, duh! Obviously this was an open and shut medical malpractice case.
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The surgeon is Christian Shephard
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I believe the question was simply for levity since interviews are generally awkward. I just think that it had symbolic significance for me.billion dollar bitch posted:What a stupid interview. I wouldn't work for that company anyways; they seem like dicks They were all actually super nice and polite. Oh, wait, that just makes my poor performance hurt more GamingHyena posted:The surgeon is drunk, duh! Obviously this was an open and shut medical malpractice case. I actually said the kid's face was messed up and he just mistook the identity. Stupid brain puzzles Torpor fucked around with this message at 03:27 on May 12, 2010 |
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diospadre posted:he has two gay dads I think that this should be the new answer to that "joke" My old answer was "it's not possible, women can't be doctors" billion dollar bitch posted:Why would the schools actually want to do this, instead of just taking some kid's money? I assume that's why they don't do it, since law schools are money making entities, not "valuable members of society" producers Ainsley McTree fucked around with this message at 05:08 on May 12, 2010 |
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