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illcendiary
Dec 4, 2005

Damn, this is good coffee.

Yoozer posted:

OK, sorry for the late reply. I don't have the Suite, so I just had to wing it in demo mode, and the quality of the video's kind of working against me. Anyway, the main ingredients:



Both are the same thing - it's just that when you click one part of Analog, the display in the center changes. I started with the init patch. Getting the portamento right is the hardest part, so you might be tweaking that glide time a bit to taste.

Yep, this works. It takes a little fiddling but I'm getting a good sound from it. Thanks a bunch man!

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Project Lithium
Dec 24, 2003

by angerbeet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDhn_Au0eLw

At around the two minute mark there is this bass sound that I've heard in a lot of different styles of music. I don't know what it's called, and therefore haven't been able to look up how to recreate it. Any help? I'd like to make it with Massive, by the way, though I don't think that changes things too much from any other synthesizer.

Laserjet 4P
Mar 28, 2005

What does it mean?
Fun Shoe

Project Lithium posted:

At around the two minute mark there is this bass sound that I've heard in a lot of different styles of music.

I don't know the name, but the bass sound is indeed common - speed garage, dubstep, etc. On various synths it's labeled as UK Garage Bass or something.

quote:

Any help? I'd like to make it with Massive, by the way, though I don't think that changes things too much from any other synthesizer.
You're correct. Here's what you do, and apologies for the textual description because I'm at work and I have to do this blindly.

Open Massive; it starts with the "Init" Patch. You're almost halfway there already. You will only need Oscillator 1.

Set things up like in this post: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2974992&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=7#post373285672 .

Differences:
Don't bother changing the oscillator's volumes and pitch (in the picture they're set to 8.00 and -20.00) - just let 'm be like in the init patch. Ditto for the volume; only oscillator 1 should make sound.

Replace the "Daft" filter model with the "4-pole lowpass".

Don't do anything with the keytrack; click the D-pad next to LFO 5, and route it to the filter cutoff (if this is not immediately obvious; you can click on the empty square below the filter cutoff and choose in the menu from the available LFOs). The triangle waveform will do just fine.

In the example, filter cutoff is at around 75%; turn it to 30%, and adjust the modulation to taste.

Lastly, go to 4 ENV. You see the pair of Decay/Level knobs: turn Level down and set Decay to halfway.

If something's not working or unclear; I'll try posting a better explanation in a few hours.

SimonomiS
Apr 3, 2009
Any ideas how to create a sound similar to the intro of this Blood Brothers song?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRaHDK3CeVs

I've no idea where to even start.

tronester
Aug 12, 2004
People hear what they want to hear.
Does anyone have any idea how Vampire Weekend gets the guitar sound on 'Cousins'?

I suspect they use a large amount of delay, but how many milliseconds are they using? Tape, Analog or Digital?

Anyone know what type of amplifiers they use as well?

Lord of Sword
Dec 12, 2006

We live thinking we will never die.
We die thinking we had never lived.
Cut it out.
I've got a PodXt and have tried for ages to get this sound that Mono use a lot (skip to about 6:30-7:30). If I turn up the distortion and delay I just get a horrible mess of noise, instead of the sort of tuned static it should sound like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tq9ip4Ll-8

Here's his pedalboard, he used a different distortion pedal when I saw them yesterday but the rest looks the same (the Danelectro pedal on the bottom is the main overdrive pedal he uses):


Click here for the full 1600x870 image.

Lord of Sword fucked around with this message at 20:23 on Mar 17, 2010

the Bunt
Sep 24, 2007

YOUR GOLDEN MAGNETIC LIGHT
Are the insanely bombastic choir vocals in much of Blind Guardians music simply just a ton of individual vocal tracks recorded over each other? Is there any other "secret" to the sound?

They start about 30 seconds into this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr3Ti-QEt8o

Popcorn
May 25, 2004

You're both fuckin' banned!
Thanks for the replies to my question about synth strings. Sent me down a rabbit hole of synth/sampler fiddling. So much yet to learn...

Hog Fell on Me
Apr 11, 2006


The art of war is simple enough.

the Bunt posted:

Are the insanely bombastic choir vocals in much of Blind Guardians music simply just a ton of individual vocal tracks recorded over each other? Is there any other "secret" to the sound?

They start about 30 seconds into this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr3Ti-QEt8o

Interestingly enough, this was a recent topic over at the Andy Sneap forum: http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/production-tips/575067-epic-power-metal-backing-vocals.html. I can't find where I originally read about Blind Guardian's choir vocal production, but on A Night at the Opera I'm pretty certain having over 100 vocal tracks per choir section was the norm.

exposedllama
Mar 20, 2009

by T. Finn
I need some tone advice here, I've always wanted to get that Iron Maiden solo tone and I'm not sure how to go about it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enTPV_wkKbA
(see the intro guitar part/solos)

What kind of pickups would be ideal for this?

plester1
Jul 9, 2004





exposedllama posted:

I need some tone advice here, I've always wanted to get that Iron Maiden solo tone and I'm not sure how to go about it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enTPV_wkKbA
(see the intro guitar part/solos)

What kind of pickups would be ideal for this?

I know Dave Murray is famous for using Seymour Duncan Hot Rails.

Another key part of sounding like Iron Maiden is using skinny strings like 9's to sound more "meedly-meedly".

OT edit: hahaha I just realized your avatar is the chicken-hat on one of the naked chicks from Baroness' Blue Record

plester1 fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Mar 27, 2010

Doctor Krieger
Apr 8, 2007

...because these corporate bag-munchers owe me $630 for my GODDAMN FLEX ACCOUNT!
Hi. Loving this thread and the How do I make electronic etc thread.

One sound I've been trying to emulate in Reason is the purring bass-y synth in Beatific by Glass Candy. Sounds simple but I can never quite get there. Any help would be much appreciated.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBlLYNJJAts

Popcorn
May 25, 2004

You're both fuckin' banned!
How does Jack White get his smooth fuzzy zip-like guitar sound? Anyone know what combos of pedals he uses? see 2:50 here. I've looked up stuff about his rig and know he uses muffs and digitech whammies but I dunno how he'd make that particular sound there. Not that I know much about guitar effects anyway.

Jesse James
Oct 11, 2009

IchiGO?
Sesto Sento - Music Make U Feel (Digital freq & 8th Note Mix)

At about 2:30 there is a serious dance-floor killing flattening bass. Very wide sounding and very deadly. Any help would be appreciated.

magiccarpet
Jan 3, 2005




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9vAOzYz-Qs

Can anyone tell me how to recreate the vocal effect on Mos Def during the chorus? Its pretty rad.

Lowbo
Jan 16, 2010

Jesse James posted:

Sesto Sento - Music Make U Feel (Digital freq & 8th Note Mix)

At about 2:30 there is a serious dance-floor killing flattening bass. Very wide sounding and very deadly. Any help would be appreciated.

sounds like a chorused saw wave, high resonance, varying the attack setting on the filter envelope

unSavory
Sep 26, 2004
fellow
I just bought Ableton Suit 8, so I'm still getting used to makeing sounds with Operator, Analog and whatnot. However, I need a punchy lead keyboard/synth sound like this one (clip below) from Phonats "Set Me Free" and I'm having the hardest time in the world with the included instruments. Anyone have a suggestion or trick?

15 second clip of the sound I want:
http://hotfile.com/dl/37365333/0711357/03_Set_Me_Free_2.mp3.html

etanmaet
Feb 19, 2010
This has been an awesome thread and I have some help I'd like to get on specific synth-drum patterns.

First is a common type of clicking or some sort of noise that uses a time stretch or something i have no idea how to describe it.. you can hear it almost all throughout in this track here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzMm_nrU9Ec&feature=related

It's like a type of rhythmic scratching or ratchet sound that I'm hearing that I think is just the coolest thing ever.


I'm also looking for a method on how to create sweeping, gated, drum patterns using reason or any other program. The best example of a band that uses these types of drum-synth runs would be sky eats airplane.

listen to this song here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=visXim5p45U around seconds 53 to 55 to hear them do this to a bass drum kick.

if you go to their myspace: http://www.myspace.com/skyeatsairplane
the song "the contour", the very first few seconds has the effect I'm looking for. It's like the sound start from nothing and crescendos into awesome.

I hope that someone just knows who sky eats airplane and over their really impressive synth fills know what i'm talking about and can offer some insight.

Thanks in advanced.

Laserjet 4P
Mar 28, 2005

What does it mean?
Fun Shoe

etanmaet posted:

First is a common type of clicking
Heavy fuzz pedal, use the EQ to cut everything below away. At least, that's what it sounds like to me.

quote:

I'm also looking for a method on how to create sweeping, gated, drum patterns using reason or any other program.
You could either use ReDrum and the Flam option, or you could draw in the notes yourself (just as easy and more flexible). Just draw 64th notes (fortunately you can copy and paste and snap to grid, so you only have to draw 4, copy that twice, and so on). Below every note there's a bar, and if you've loaded up the sample in NN19 and turned the "AMP" knob in the VELOCITY section completely to the right, the higher that bar is, the louder the sample will play back. By drawing a sloping bar graph with the pencil tool you get that typical effect.

As for the intro of the Contour: all you hear is the sample of a breakbeat that's put through a lowpass filter with the resonance turned up. During play, the filter's cutoff frequency is increased.

If you map the cutoff to a physical knob of your controller and some keys to separate samples, there's fun to be had!

magiccarpet posted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9vAOzYz-Qs

Can anyone tell me how to recreate the vocal effect on Mos Def during the chorus? Its pretty rad.

If you mean the talking like old radio broadcasts effect, there are various ways. Easiest is to cut away high and low frequencies with an EQ and add a little bit of noise, plus a gate. The most expensive option is probably this: http://www.audioease.com/Pages/Speakerphone/speakerphone.html

Laserjet 4P fucked around with this message at 23:32 on Apr 19, 2010

Orange Harrison
Feb 24, 2010

All through the day, I me mine

Popcorn posted:

How does Jack White get his smooth fuzzy zip-like guitar sound? Anyone know what combos of pedals he uses? see 2:50 here. I've looked up stuff about his rig and know he uses muffs and digitech whammies but I dunno how he'd make that particular sound there. Not that I know much about guitar effects anyway.

Very tight distortion, like a Schmidt trigger. Probably some low-pass filtering in there at the tone knobs. And a whammy pedal set to one octave down harmony.

doug fuckey
Jun 7, 2007

hella greenbacks
I'm a pedal noob so sorry, but what does the warbly sound as in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGRFA7-4FJU or so?

Orange Harrison
Feb 24, 2010

All through the day, I me mine

shpladoinkle posted:

I'm a pedal noob so sorry, but what does the warbly sound as in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGRFA7-4FJU or so?

It could be a leslie speaker, or one of many pedals/processors that attempt to emulate the "leslie sound", which is like a bit of chorus and a bit of tremelo together.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

etanmaet posted:

First is a common type of clicking

I can't turn my volume up too much but if it's not the guitar, maybe you're talking about the drummer tapping away on the closed hi-hat?

the Bunt
Sep 24, 2007

YOUR GOLDEN MAGNETIC LIGHT
Can anyone help me out with figuring out this vocal harmony at 1:23 of this song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpTesst2HN0

For some reason I just can't figure out what the falsetto harmony is singing in relation to the lead. I am a total scrub and sing just for personal pleasure. I have no problem singing falsetto like that, it's just the notes I can't begin to figure it out

An0
Nov 10, 2006
I enjoy eating After Eights. I also enjoy eating Old El Paso salsa with added Tobasco.
Hey guys.

When exams are done, I'm going to start loving around in Reason again, and I want to make badman 80s tunes. How would I go about recreating the super-reverbed drums here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Kiq_-MUTOE&feature=related (cf. 2min40, but the whole tune is the sickest tune ever anyways)

or here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXkuiShMojY

Are these from a specific drum machine and then messed around with (pan, compression, masses or reverb) ? or actual recordings from those massive electronic drumkits the poodle-haired spandex dudes would play on ?

Is this bass from a specific synth http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEre6jxbI-8&feature=related ? (this one has a similiar vibe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsl3k2mHDhQ )

And a more general question. I'll be recording some guitar stuff, but you can't do that in Reason. I haven't done anything with Reaper, but can is it flexible enough to do more electronic music stuff ?

Laserjet 4P
Mar 28, 2005

What does it mean?
Fun Shoe

An0 posted:

How would I go about recreating the super-reverbed drums here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Kiq_-MUTOE&feature=related (cf. 2min40, but the whole tune is the sickest tune ever anyways)
Those are synth toms.

quote:

Are these from a specific drum machine and then messed around with (pan, compression, masses or reverb) ? or actual recordings from those massive electronic drumkits the poodle-haired spandex dudes would play on ?

Those are from specific drum machines.

Usual suspects: Linn Drum 9000, Oberheim DMX, Simmons.

See:
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8P1a-795NI
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOoomR51oXc
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peL2fTp8xTM

And yes, first reverb, then a gate (so the reverb effect doesn't sound on and on), and then compression.

quote:

Is this bass from a specific synth

Doesn't sound like it, but for lots of 80s music there are the usual suspects. You can get this out of pretty much any decent enough (software) (virtual) analog with 2 oscillators and a lowpass filter.

quote:

And a more general question. I'll be recording some guitar stuff, but you can't do that in Reason. I haven't done anything with Reaper, but can is it flexible enough to do more electronic music stuff ?

Sequencers don't care what kind of music you make or record; before everyone got FL Studio with the step sequencers or Ableton Live with the timestretching, people were happily chugging away on Cubase and Logic. Reaper's more like Cubase/Logic than FL or Live, but its featureset is enough for everything you can probably think of.

An0
Nov 10, 2006
I enjoy eating After Eights. I also enjoy eating Old El Paso salsa with added Tobasco.
Cool man :) Thanks !

spiritual bypass
Feb 19, 2008

Grimey Drawer
Is there a particular fuzz box that will make my guitar sound like Inna Gadda Da Vida? The builtin fuzz on my Line 6 is kinda similar, but I want something a little better that doesn't require fiddling with my amp model.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGmkM4v9AaY

doug fuckey
Jun 7, 2007

hella greenbacks

Orange Harrison posted:

It could be a leslie speaker, or one of many pedals/processors that attempt to emulate the "leslie sound", which is like a bit of chorus and a bit of tremelo together.

Sorry, forgot I asked this question. Anyone have a recommendation for a pedal to simulate this sound?

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!
I just started out toying with synths (and making music in general). What I'm puzzled about is how much I should make do on the synth side and how much on the arranger (listening closer to various things, the rich sounds seem to come from playing chords?).

Laserjet 4P
Mar 28, 2005

What does it mean?
Fun Shoe

shpladoinkle posted:

Sorry, forgot I asked this question. Anyone have a recommendation for a pedal to simulate this sound?

Combine http://www.zzounds.com/item--DANDJ5 with http://www.zzounds.com/item--DANDJ7 (or their Behringer equivalents) if it shouldn't cost much

Actual Leslie simulation is superior when done through http://www.effectsdatabase.com/model/neo/ventilator

Combat Pretzel posted:

I just started out toying with synths (and making music in general). What I'm puzzled about is how much I should make do on the synth side and how much on the arranger (listening closer to various things, the rich sounds seem to come from playing chords?).

That depends entirely on the situation.

For instance, lots of techno records feature sounds like this: http://theheartcore.com/music/detroit_chord.mp3

That's a really simplistic synth patch (and often the chord itself is sampled again so you just have to play C, G, Bb, F to be instantly cool), but a "rich" chord sound. Some sounds lend themselves more to be played as chords. Another trick is delay - if you listen to http://theheartcore.com/music/ion_space_echo.mp3 (around 0:30, then the effect kicks in) you'll notice that the delay creates lots of atmosphere around a relatively simple sound because the repetitions are at another pitch than the original; so basically you let the delay play the chord.

On the other hand you have dubstep basslines. While they only have a single note playing, so much is going on in terms of filtering with stepsequencers and LFOs that the synthesis basically does the playing.

Laserjet 4P fucked around with this message at 09:34 on May 14, 2010

h_double
Jul 27, 2001
Does anybody know anything about the sound programming used in the old Williams arcade games and pinball machines (e.g. Robotron, Defender, Joust, Gorgar, etc.)?

I've determined that all of those games used the same Williams D8224 sound board, which contains a Motorola 6802 CPU, but can't find any info on the actual sound generation.

I know that most of it is just detuned oscillators and awesome use of LFOs, I can get in the general ballpark with Massive (and I am pretty confident that Massive can do "that sound") but I have always loved the crunch & sizzle of the sound programming in those games and would love to be able to get closer to recreating it.

NoiseAnnoys
May 17, 2010

rt4 posted:

Is there a particular fuzz box that will make my guitar sound like Inna Gadda Da Vida? The builtin fuzz on my Line 6 is kinda similar, but I want something a little better that doesn't require fiddling with my amp model.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGmkM4v9AaY

I'm pretty sure that the fuzz on that recording is a Mosrite Fuzzbrite. They're pricey as gently caress now, because they're vintage, out of production, and not all that sturdy (so not a whole lot of them survived), but there's a great (and affordable) clone put out by Ashbass. It's pretty much dead-on and for a lot less than a vintage one.

http://www.dominocs.com/Library/FUZZbrite/index.html

However, I will include a caveat-- since it's a clone of a vintage fuzz it's not going to be all that much louder than your current guitar signal. Just FYI. Some people expect these things to be a 20 db jump in volume when you step on 'em and that's more-often-than-not, not the case.

Mister Speaker
May 8, 2007

WE WILL CONTROL
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AND HEAR
I'm trying to emulate a particular D&B bass sound, this really harmonic digeridoo-like tone, like this (skip to 1:09):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iinRAG8zyFE

But I can't seem to nail it down. I'm using a Virus TI, so far the closest I've come has been with two sinewave oscillators an octave and a fifth apart, fed into a resonant lowpass filter with the an LFO on the cutoff. It's sort of there but it lacks something. I know very little about FM synthesis, is that what I should be playing around with, or am I on the right track with the additive stuff?

spiritual bypass
Feb 19, 2008

Grimey Drawer

NoiseAnnoys posted:

I'm pretty sure that the fuzz on that recording is a Mosrite Fuzzbrite. They're pricey as gently caress now, because they're vintage, out of production, and not all that sturdy (so not a whole lot of them survived), but there's a great (and affordable) clone put out by Ashbass. It's pretty much dead-on and for a lot less than a vintage one.

http://www.dominocs.com/Library/FUZZbrite/index.html

However, I will include a caveat-- since it's a clone of a vintage fuzz it's not going to be all that much louder than your current guitar signal. Just FYI. Some people expect these things to be a 20 db jump in volume when you step on 'em and that's more-often-than-not, not the case.

Thanks for the suggestion. I'm definitely gonna get one of these now!

byob historian
Nov 5, 2008

I'm an animal abusing piece of shit! I deliberately poisoned my dog to death and think it's funny! I'm an irredeemable sack of human shit!

Mister Speaker posted:

I'm trying to emulate a particular D&B bass sound, this really harmonic digeridoo-like tone, like this (skip to 1:09):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iinRAG8zyFE

But I can't seem to nail it down. I'm using a Virus TI, so far the closest I've come has been with two sinewave oscillators an octave and a fifth apart, fed into a resonant lowpass filter with the an LFO on the cutoff. It's sort of there but it lacks something. I know very little about FM synthesis, is that what I should be playing around with, or am I on the right track with the additive stuff?

If you want harmonics don't go with sinewaves, obv. The sound I think you're describing sounds most like a saw with a good bit of distortion

pennywisdom
Mar 21, 2004

I'm pretty new to synths, but any tips to create the lead bit in Tycho's The Disconnect?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RENmgV2q02U&feature=related

Laserjet 4P
Mar 28, 2005

What does it mean?
Fun Shoe
If by lead you mean the sound playing at 2:04, with the clicky start: use two layers. One's a sinewave, with a slow LFO on the pitch. The other layer is a noise oscillator with a really short decay.

Now, you'll say - "ok, but I can't do that, my synth doesn't have these layers". You can fake it if you use a lowpass filter. In Synth1:

Oscillator 1: first waveform (sine)
Oscillator 2: fourth waveform (the stairsteppy thing)
Amplifier envelope ADSR : 0 max max 5
Filter envelope ADSR : 0 1 0 0.
Filter mode : LP24, cutoff : as low as possible so that you can still hear the sinewave
Filter AMT : halfway
LFO 1: DST (destination) to osc 1, 2. Play with the speed and the amount to get the right amount of vibrato. LFO 2, off.
Effects : none required, use your DAW's reverb.

TheQuietWilds
Sep 8, 2009

NoiseAnnoys posted:

However, I will include a caveat-- since it's a clone of a vintage fuzz it's not going to be all that much louder than your current guitar signal. Just FYI. Some people expect these things to be a 20 db jump in volume when you step on 'em and that's more-often-than-not, not the case.

you can get around this by putting it in a TBP looper with a full-spectrum booster (such as a Catalinbread Super Chili Picoso or ZVex SHO) behind it, with both always on, switching them in and out of your signal chain together.

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zeldadude
Nov 24, 2004

OH SNAP!
I'm sure this is very simple but I can't seem to get it to sound this good, anyone care to shed some light on the main LFO bell-ish synth in this song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNbsv4cb-Dc

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