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GlenMR posted:Vengance 2003I think? It had a big staredown between Rock and Undertaker at the beginning, and Angle throwing a big tantrum to get them to notice him. 2002, actually. Pretty great match, with a huge ending sequence where everyone hit everybody else's finisher. I think the DVD was strangely a WWEshop.com exclusive, for some reason, which lead to it kind of being overlooked. If I'm remembering correctly, anyway. I think it's on either a Rock or Undertaker DVD, though.
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El Duke posted:2002, actually. Pretty great match, with a huge ending sequence where everyone hit everybody else's finisher. I think the DVD was strangely a WWEshop.com exclusive, for some reason, which lead to it kind of being overlooked. If I'm remembering correctly, anyway. I think it's on either a Rock or Undertaker DVD, though. It's on the WWE Title history dvd and the Rock's. Love the poo poo out of that match. The Undertaker DVD has a great bonus match between Kurt and Taker that happened on Smackdown for the title.
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Spikeguy posted:It's on the WWE Title history dvd and the Rock's. Love the poo poo out of that match. The Undertaker DVD has a great bonus match between Kurt and Taker that happened on Smackdown for the title. Is that the simultaneous triangle choke/pin match? Actually I think they did that finish twice. Only they switched the position. And Undertaker tapped out in one of them.
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Strenuous Manflurry posted:Is that the simultaneous triangle choke/pin match? No that's the one where Lesnar interrupted the match, as American Badass.
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Pneub posted:They usually didn't do a random out of place push-up in the middle of a roll for no reason. Obviously the impact of the stunner was so great that he needed to disperse the force by doing a headstand backflip. Maybe you should date Stone Cold and then post a trip report and we can critique your form as he abuses you.
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Brickhouse Betty posted:This kinda makes me wonder: Who all did Undertaker have good chemistry with? Shawn Michaels, obviously, and maybe Foley. But while he's had good matches with all the others, I don't really recall many great matches not against Michaels or Foley from him. And that's kinda odd, considering how much I like him. Lesnar, Edge, and most recently Swagger.
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CM Junk posted:Lesnar, Edge, and most recently Swagger. His stuff with Mysterio was also great I thought.
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To this day that Ladder match they had is what more than anything sold Jeff Hardy to me as a star. Then I find out about his meth addiction and I can't ever like him again.
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Jesus Christ, did I suffer a brain injury?  I THOUGHT I remembered most of these feuds, but I don't remember them being anything special. But looking at all the responses, I am obviously completely wrong. My entire memory of wrestling is a lie.
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Brickhouse Betty posted:Jesus Christ, did I suffer a brain injury? Enjoy: Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3vigtYbmqY Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozvssJWrDCk Post Match Promo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpdVh_31fig
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I haven't seen it brought up yet, or maybe it missed it, but Angle and Undertaker had a crazy match at No Way Out in 2006. Also, as much as I love the promos and the theatrics, when it comes to in ring work, I'm shocked at the lack of chemistry he has at Kane. They've probably wrestled each other a hundred times, and I've never seen a match between them better then okay.
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TL posted:I haven't seen it brought up yet, or maybe it missed it, but Angle and Undertaker had a crazy match at No Way Out in 2006. That might have as much to do with their characters and subsequent in-ring mannerisms as it does anything else. Both guys in general seem to do better against smaller guys.
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I'm trying to remember the name of a move, I dont remember who does it, but I think I saw it in ROH a few years ago, and I know someone (possibly a TNA knockout or whatever they call their women wrestler) still uses it. Wrestler A (who is performing the move) gets wrestler B into the corner, arms by their sides. A grabs both of Bs wrists, raises Bs arms above Bs head and mounts the turnbuckle behind B. A then pushes themself forwards, so B falls facefirst into the mat with A driving their knees into Bs back/neck. Basically like a turnbuckle bow and arrow into a faceplant. I think it had "Branding" in the name, because I always got it mixed up with Danielsons Cattle Mutilation. It popped into my head when watching something unrelated and its really bugging me that I cant remember the name.
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SiKboy posted:I'm trying to remember the name of a move, I dont remember who does it, but I think I saw it in ROH a few years ago, and I know someone (possibly a TNA knockout or whatever they call their women wrestler) still uses it. So the wrestler is on the turnbuckle behind their opponent when the put their knee into the opponent's back/neck and drive them into the mat? Yeah, that's called Branding.
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SiKboy posted:I'm trying to remember the name of a move, I dont remember who does it, but I think I saw it in ROH a few years ago, and I know someone (possibly a TNA knockout or whatever they call their women wrestler) still uses it. It's called calf branding normally, I personally prefer it done on a grounded opponent, it looks like murder. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wglh6_nxgI Wazzu fucked around with this message at 14:09 on May 16, 2010 |
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SIKboy, I'm not quoting your post because those post aren't showing up for some reason. I've heard that move called the meat curtain, but I'm sure it has a different name too. E: never mind, that's a completely different move. Beef Jerky Robot fucked around with this message at 16:18 on May 16, 2010 |
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I was fine yesterday, but some people were reporting that any post with a quote in it was showing up blank ... and now I'm seeing blank posts. I assume the maintenance is causing this.
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Beef Jerky Robot posted:SIKboy, I'm not quoting your post because those post aren't showing up for some reason. I've heard that move called the meat curtain, but I'm sure it has a different name too. Did Mickie James use that move?
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TL posted:Did Mickie James use that move? He'll be here all week folks! 
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Here's a question that's been bugging me all day: What the hell is a Dudebuster? Ever since I saw them on Smackdown Friday, I've been trying to think of what one is, or who thought it up, or what drug they were on to come up with such a horrible gimmick. \/\/\/ I misspelled nothing 
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Luminous Cow posted:Here's a question that's been bugging me all day: What the hell is a Dudebuster? Ever since I saw them on Smackdown Friday, I've been trying to think of what one is, or who thought it up, or what drug they were on to come up with such a horrible gimmick. You might want to edit this post. You mis-spelled "a-m-a-z-i-n-g" as "h-o-r-r-i-b-l-e"
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Dudebusters bust dudes. What else would they be?
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Brickhouse Betty posted:Jesus Christ, did I suffer a brain injury? The Lesnar/Taker feud is a classic example of Jerusalem's favorite kind of match, which is basically just two giant men beating the poo poo out of each other until one of them stops.
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Cool, so I was right about it being <something> branding. Thanks!
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CM Junk posted:The Lesnar/Taker feud is a classic example of Jerusalem's favorite kind of match, which is basically just two giant men beating the poo poo out of each other until one of them stops. This can't be stressed enough, it's loving awesome.
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Jerusalem posted:This can't be stressed enough, it's loving awesome. Yes but Taker should have put Lesnar over when it mattered a few months earlier than the HIAC match.
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A few months earlier? Lesnar debuted in March, won King of the Ring in July, won the Undisputed title in August, and went over Taker in October. Unless you think he should have put him over on a Raw main event, there wasn't much time before then to do it. I think the way the feud built was pretty perfect - a double-DQ brawl one month, leading to Hell in a Cell the next.
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Clearly he meant "Kurt Angle" and "their Survivor Series 00 match"
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Here's a wrestling question: Is it weird that when I first really got into wrestling it was when Chris Jericho and Rey Mysterio were feuding for the WCW Cruiserweight title, and now when I see them wrestle on Smackdown I view them as completely different entities? They still put on great matches when they wrestle (in fact I bought a PPV where Jericho took Mysterio's mask last year in a really good match), there's just some element not there that I can't quite define. Captain Magic fucked around with this message at 08:02 on May 17, 2010 |
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What does it mean when a wrestler (I think) taps his own shoulder or other parts of his body (I think one common instance is his bootheel)? I haven't regularly watched wrestling in eons, but I think it's typically when a wrist lock is applied, the wrestler who the move is being applied to sort of stands up straight and then taps his shoulder with his free hand. This usually leads to a reversal or, I think, an Irish whip. Is he just signalling 'I'm going to go this way, don't break my arm.' Is the kayfabe reasoning just 'it hurts'? Just curious, cause it always looked goofy as hell whenever I saw it.
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I always thought it was like the opponent is tightening your muscle, so you're smacking it to get the feeling back into it.
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Captain Magic posted:Here's a wrestling question: Seeing as how they are 10+ years older than then(and also Rey Mysterio being a lot more banged up) and have both evolved that's to be expected. It really lacked the fast-paced high flying action that it originally had years ago, but substituted it with a lot more slower-paced storytelling rather than high spot after high spot as I remember the old feud was in WCW(that was years ago and I was quite young then, so yeah.) Both feuds were equally great in my opinion though but two separate entities indeed. Edit: I just realized I said 'really' way more than needed in that post, shows me for being up at 4AM and posting. Thorias fucked around with this message at 08:52 on May 17, 2010 |
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I don't doubt that both those men could still wrestle the caliber of match they used to, I think it's probably endemic of the WWE style more than anything.
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Chop Licker posted:I don't doubt that both those men could still wrestle the caliber of match they used to, I think it's probably endemic of the WWE style more than anything. Rey and Jericho's matches in WCW weren't really that great, especially the famous one where Jericho puts Rey out and wins the Cruiserweight belt. Rey was really injured at the time and they couldn't do much. The stuff they did last year was really better in terms of ring work.
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Captain Magic posted:Here's a wrestling question:
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Perdido posted:What does it mean when a wrestler (I think) taps his own shoulder or other parts of his body (I think one common instance is his bootheel)? I haven't regularly watched wrestling in eons, but I think it's typically when a wrist lock is applied, the wrestler who the move is being applied to sort of stands up straight and then taps his shoulder with his free hand. I want someone to answer this definitively. Last week I watched Pillman vs. Flamingo at Beach Blast 92 (I think) and while Pillman had twisted Raven's arm Raven slapped his shoulder every few seconds for a minute straight. Really loving distracting and weird.
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Captain Magic posted:Here's a wrestling question: If you notice, Rey was -SPRINTING- outside the ring. He had speed in 1998; he's been wrestling for twelve years since then, and has really slowed down. Now, it's about interesting reversals more than "HOLY poo poo THAT'S FAST."
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Perdido posted:What does it mean when a wrestler (I think) taps his own shoulder or other parts of his body (I think one common instance is his bootheel)? I haven't regularly watched wrestling in eons, but I think it's typically when a wrist lock is applied, the wrestler who the move is being applied to sort of stands up straight and then taps his shoulder with his free hand. Its the "Ow Ow ow! Boy Howdy are you twisting my arm hard. See where I am slapping my hand on my shoulder? That is where it hurts!" To signal a reversal the guy administering the arm twisting would just give you two quick squeezes of his hand. At least thats how we did it.
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