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Rusty Shackelford posted:There's a book recommendation thread stickied at the top of this forum. Ah, so I'm the rear end in a top hat. Thanks, sorry.
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Tarodia posted:That was team Uppercut, in the Chikara King of Trios. Thank you. I have no idea where my version of that came from except for a terrible memory.
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May 25, 2010 12:18
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Why does Jericho have 'lion' in the name of some of his moves? Leftovers from some old gimmick?
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May 25, 2010 18:39
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Jewellers posted:Why does Jericho have 'lion' in the name of some of his moves? Leftovers from some old gimmick? Now that you mention it, I could see how "lionsault" must sound like a really random name for a move. I'm sure a generation of new fans doesn't really get the "Y2J" thing either. Minidust fucked around with this message at 18:42 on May 25, 2010 |
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May 25, 2010 18:40
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Think its a hold over from his days in Mexico.
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May 25, 2010 19:06
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KungFu Grip posted:I think Foley's second one is still good, but stay the gently caress away from his third one. Foley's books are an interesting progression; in the first, he's basically writing in his happy-go-lucky, goofy, lovable guy persona. He gets crankier in the second, and The Hardcore Diaries is a few hundred pages of a horribly insecure man complaining that Vince is a douche because he didn't think Terry Funk could headline a Pay-Per-View.
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Timby posted:Foley's books are an interesting progression; in the first, he's basically writing in his happy-go-lucky, goofy, lovable guy persona. He gets crankier in the second, and The Hardcore Diaries is a few hundred pages of a horribly insecure man complaining that Vince is a douche because he didn't think Terry Funk could headline a Pay-Per-View. Is it bad that I completely agree with Vince
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May 25, 2010 20:14
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Save Russian Jews posted:Is it bad that I completely agree with Vince The man might be crazy, but he does have an uncanny sense for what's bad for business.
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Umbra Dubium posted:The man might be crazy, but he does have an uncanny sense for what's bad for business. This is true, even if he ignores it half the time.
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The third book is interesting for seeing the construction and eventual execution of an angle against the backdrop of changing plans and priorities - but it relies too heavily on the reader being aware of the actual matches themselves (whereas the first two books could be read by someone who had never watched a wrestling show in their lives) and it keeps sidelining into his charity work (I think it's lovely he does charity work, but you don't need to keep talking about it!) and all the stuff with Stacey Kiebler which I'm convinced was some weird-rear end attempt to sow the seeds for an angle in his books and later his wwe.com blogs and germinate it into what eventually became the Foley vs Flair storyline (with Melina replacing Kiebler when she didn't re-sign). So essentially it's a Big Hot Tranny Mess.
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May 26, 2010 00:24
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The Croc posted:Think its a hold over from his days in Mexico. Bingo. He was called Corazon de Leon in CMLL. I think it got Anglicised when Paul E brought him in, and it stuck for a while into his WCW run.
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Jerusalem posted:The third book is interesting for seeing the construction and eventual execution of an angle against the backdrop of changing plans and priorities - but it relies too heavily on the reader being aware of the actual matches themselves (whereas the first two books could be read by someone who had never watched a wrestling show in their lives) and it keeps sidelining into his charity work (I think it's lovely he does charity work, but you don't need to keep talking about it!) and all the stuff with Stacey Kiebler which I'm convinced was some weird-rear end attempt to sow the seeds for an angle in his books and later his wwe.com blogs and germinate it into what eventually became the Foley vs Flair storyline (with Melina replacing Kiebler when she didn't re-sign). The entire episode surrounding this book, when taken in with what happened onscreen, went a long way towards killing Mick Foley's reputation with fans, I think. There's no shortage of Foley antics to be confused or bored by in the '06-'07 time frame. I mean, first he turns heel, and I keenly remember him getting absolutely no reaction from audiences when he tried to explain it, in his obvious attempt to recreate a sort of Cane Dewey scenario. Then Terry Funk comes out, and no one can figure out why Funk is even there, since you can tell by the way he walks that he can't go, but whatever, it's not like this is going to be the main event. Then you read his book and realize that Foley all along wanted Funk to be a centerpiece of the company and do retarded bottom-of-the-barrel Attitude era poo poo like bite a chunk out of Vince's rear end. Then Foley whines incessantly for most of an entire book when he doesn't get his way. That is, when he's not talking about his charity work or his conversation with a diva, which, sorry Mick, absolutely no one cares about. I mean John Cena is something like the all-time Make-A-Wish record holder now, but a book about it would be terrible. Then he has an absolutely disappointing feud with Ric Flair followed by a big stupid double-turn with Melina. I think all throughout this time there were rumors and vague allusions to Triple H lobbying to lessen Foley's creative contributions, and really, we should all at least thank him for that.
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:The entire episode surrounding this book, when taken in with what happened onscreen, went a long way towards killing Mick Foley's reputation with fans, I think. There's no shortage of Foley antics to be confused or bored by in the '06-'07 time frame. We butt heads a lot here, but there isn't a single thing here you've said I disagree with. Savour it, mon cheri.
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Will Super Liger ever return? 
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What does James Mitchell do now?
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ChampRamp posted:What does James Mitchell do now? Sings karaoke and antagonizes people at Florida resorts, and makes more than he did in ECW or TNA.
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I don't think I've ever seen James Mitchell in a managerial role or on a documentary or a podcast and failed to be entertained by him. Even if he's involved in something as stupid as the CHRIS PARKS storyline.
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:Then he has an absolutely disappointing feud with Ric Flair followed by a big stupid double-turn with Melina. I think all throughout this time there were rumors and vague allusions to Triple H lobbying to lessen Foley's creative contributions, and really, we should all at least thank him for that. I agree with pretty much everything apart from that there were portions of the Foley/Flair feud I really enjoyed (the end with Melina and her turn on him later was terrible), not least of which is the story that they made up over their past bitterness and then got into a big argument over who should be put over in the match (they each wanted to put the other over!) But yeah, Foley's idea was interesting but as a main event act it would have been awful, as awful as Cornette's fantasy Wrestlemania booking thing.
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Foley and Flair are two of the best promos of all time IMO, and they brought some solid ones in the feud. Unfortunately, they then had to wrestle.Jerusalem posted:as awful as Cornette's fantasy Wrestlemania booking thing. Elaborate?
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MassRayPer posted:Sings karaoke and antagonizes people at Florida resorts, and makes more than he did in ECW or TNA. Please name these resorts. I am in Miami and have nothing to do for three months. It's time for a road trip thread.
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CVagts posted:Foley and Flair are two of the best promos of all time IMO, and they brought some solid ones in the feud. Unfortunately, they then had to wrestle. Cornette was asked how he'd fantasy book Wrestlemania 17 or 18 (and the Invasion) for a DVD fantasy booking release, I believe. Someone needs to re-post his entire proposed Mania card, because I can't find it on the forums and its hilarious, but in 2002 he had something like: Brock Lesnar v. Bam Bam Bigelow Jeff Jarrett & Goldust v. The Steiners (I think) Steve Austin v. Mick Foley main event (Foley is retired and has wrestled Austin 800 times before at this point) The Undertaker v. Terry Funk co-main event Dusty Rhodes wrestling somebody (this is the worst) It's the stupidest, most geriatric card imaginable. Name Change fucked around with this message at 01:55 on May 26, 2010 |
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May 26, 2010 01:53
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I read Foley's first 2 books dozens of times each, the first one to a point where the spine broke and the book fell in half. I read the third one once. What a loving disappointment.
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:Brock Lesnar v. Bam Bam Bigelow Dusty and Hogan in the main event, actually. Yikes.
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Is anyone else looking forward to book number 4? I hope it means more of happy Mick, but I'm not holding my breath.
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TL posted:Is anyone else looking forward to book number 4? I hope it means more of happy Mick, but I'm not holding my breath. It's all TNA.
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I don't mean to backseat mod but there's a whole stickied thread to discuss wrestling books.
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Jewellers posted:Why does Jericho have 'lion' in the name of some of his moves? Leftovers from some old gimmick? Jericho's Mexican monicer was Corazón de León, which he took with him to Japan and then America.
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So after the bit in the TNA thread about how WWE has kind of a generic look for it's women, I was wondering whose idea was the Diva Search? I'd assume Laurinaitis had a big part in it's creation because that seems like the type of thing he'd go for.
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:Cornette was asked how he'd fantasy book Wrestlemania 17 or 18 (and the Invasion) for a DVD fantasy booking release, I believe. Someone needs to re-post his entire proposed Mania card, because I can't find it on the forums and its hilarious, but in 2002 he had something like: Somebody really does need to find the rest of this because it sounds hilarious. Half of those matches would wind up with the other guy literally getting killed. Lesnar would murder 2002 Bigelow, Undertaker would murder the poo poo out of Terry Funk.
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May 27, 2010 07:57
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Ummmmmmmmmmmm Terry Funk can't die...
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Is there a back story to all the "bearskin rug" comments I'm hearing about Vince McMahon in shoot interviews? Sorry if its been answered in here, I couldn't find it.
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Here's the card for Cornette's Guest Booker, bold denotes winner. Austin vs Foley Undertaker vs Funk The Rock vs Sting Hogan managed by Jimmy Hart vs Dusty managed by Jim Cornette Vince McMahon vs Flair; Flair gets 5 minutes alone with Bischoff if he wins Dudleys vs Warriors Angle vs Benoit Triple H vs Booker T Edge/Christian vs Nova/Jerry Lynn Big Show/Kane vs Steiner Brothers Jericho vs Lance Storm Hardy Boys w/ Lita vs Jarrett/Dustin Rhodes Eddie Guerrero/Saturn/Malenko vs Chavo/Mysterio/Candido w/ Tammy Sytch Lesnar vs Bam Bam Bigelow Rhyno vs Kevin Nash Battle Royal Steve Blackman D'Lo Brown Al Snow Val Venis Bull Buchanan Justin Credible William Regal Bill Demott Balls Mahoney RVD DDP Kanyon Harris Twins
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Dude had to be trollin' everyone when he came up with that, putting whatever random person against another. Except I wouldn't mind seeing Undertaker/Terry Funk for the  and  factors.
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Cactus Jack posted:Triple H vs Booker T Ha.
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a dreamcard with Triple H going over the last WCW world/us champion and Kevin Nash going over the last ECW world/tv champion
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May 27, 2010 13:42
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But this man is a genius, you see! He's a genius because he yells a lot!
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ZombieSupaStar posted:Is there a back story to all the "bearskin rug" comments I'm hearing about Vince McMahon in shoot interviews? Vince has a bearskin rug in the principal's office.
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DannoMack posted:Ummmmmmmmmmmm Terry Funk can't die... A world without Terry Funk is not a world any of us should want to live in, really.
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Wow, a 16 match PPV? This years WrestleMania had ten matches and some of them didn't even have enough time.
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I like it when people act as if Jim Cornette no longer has any credibility because his wrestling fanfic isn't very good.
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