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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:You would be thinking of the final duel in Sanjuro. It's absurdly over top in the same way that the finale of Throne of Blood is utterly ridiculous. Oh yeah that's right, I see it clearly now. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvaGe9iqO0U FitFortDanga fucked around with this message at 16:08 on May 25, 2010 |
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It's like he had a bunch of Capri Suns strapped to him.
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May 25, 2010 16:15
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The Lone Wolf and Cub movies also really took the climactic blood-spray in Sanjuro and just ran with it. They were decently big crossover movies too, I was under the impression they popularized the 'ridiculous-blood-spray' thing among American audiences at least. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSsSxo2V8SI
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May 25, 2010 17:40
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LtKenFrankenstein posted:The Lone Wolf and Cub movies also really took the climactic blood-spray in Sanjuro and just ran with it. They were decently big crossover movies too, I was under the impression they popularized the 'ridiculous-blood-spray' thing among American audiences at least. And in terms of gratuitous blood with your chopsocky, most Americans got into that via Hong Kong action films in the '70s more than by anything exported from Japan. The baby cart films and---I think more notoriously---the Sonny Chiba Street Fighter films were definitely over-the-top violent and saw some play in the US, but I think that kind of violence really got mainstream traction on American screens when Hong Kong kick flicks became `mainstream underground' successful. You know, they didn't exactly become `mainstream' in the way that the latest big-budget Hollywood films were, but everybody saw a couple of them. The development of this sort of violence in Hong Kong films owes a lot to the Japanese films we've been talking about. Hong Kong didn't have much of a home-grown film industry until the mid to late '60s. Most of what was produced were screen versions of Chinese opera and costume historical dramas. Martial arts epics were certainly part of this, but it wasn't until films like Da Zui Xia/Come Drink With Me (1966) that you see something like wuxia (with crazy wire-fu and a lot of footwork and fighting but mostly bloodless) in its recognisable, modern form. Hong Kong films up to this point were seldom seen outside Hong Kong itself. Then in 1967 Chang Cheh made Dubei Dao/The One-Armed Swordsman with Jimmy Yu Wang starring. It was the first major success for Shaw Brothers outside Hong Kong, and it proved hugely influential on the structure, themes, and visual aesthetics of subsequent Hong Kong martial arts films. It (and its sequels) were a lot more overtly violent than the films that preceded it. The reasons for this are complex, but the thing that I'll call out here is that it was produced and released in a period of intense social upheaval in Hong Kong. And whereas earlier martial arts heroes were typically Establishment heroes---good guys working for the local government fighting bandits or whatever---the titular one-armed swordsman was wronged by the Establishment and was taking revenge against authority figures. This is a big subject and I'm not covering it adequately here, but it's interesting to note because subsequent audiences have watched Hong Kong action films of this era mostly as exploitation films---for all the crazy martial arts poo poo---but audiences at the time saw them as fight-the-power populist empowerment. Anyway, following the huge success of the One-Armed Swordsman films Shaw became a major player, Chang Cheh their major director, and Jimmy Yu Wang a major star. At which point Yu Wang decided he had artistic differences with Shaw, and set off on his own to make the completely artistically different One-Armed Boxer films which totally weren't a ripoff of the One-Armed Swordsman character, the most famous of which being Du Bi Quan Wang Da Po Xue Di Zi/Master of the Flying Guillotine (1975). These were almost pure low-budget chopsocky, with the emphasis definitely being on the lurid aspects of all the violence. This sort of film became a staple for other Hong Kong studios attempting to replicate the success of Shaw---like Golden Harvest, who went on to have great mainstream success in the west.
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SubG posted:I think the whole arterial spray visual aesthetic for violence first saw currency in American film with Peckinpah's The Wild Bunch (1969), which in turn owed a lot to the depiction of violence in Arthur Penn's Bonnie and Clyde (1967). Ah, perhaps I phrased poorly. I was referring specifically to the arterial blood spray in relation to samurai/swordsman flicks. Otherwise I agree completely.
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May 25, 2010 21:50
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Inside has the best-looking arterial spray shot ever, hands down.
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May 26, 2010 03:07
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Throne of Blood was the MacBeth one right? Mifune gets filled with like a hojillion arrows before he dies being the ridiculous bit? Or am I forgetting something?
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anticake posted:Throne of Blood was the MacBeth one right? Mifune gets filled with like a hojillion arrows before he dies being the ridiculous bit? Or am I forgetting something? That is correct.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:You would be thinking of the final duel in Sanjuro. It's absurdly over top in the same way that the finale of Throne of Blood is utterly ridiculous. It's totally out of the blue too. Played for shocks in a film that has previously played itself up for laughs. However, once you get past the initial shock, the blood spray is funny too. I actually consider Sanjuro to be superior to Yojimbo, which is saying a hell of a lot.
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May 26, 2010 21:42
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I like Sanjuro more than Yojimbo because I really appreciate the sending up of Mifune's character. Both are great, but I've watched Sanjuro more times just because it's got a much lighter tone.
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May 26, 2010 22:06
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MrDingleDangle posted:here is the scene you are talking about I think This reminds of a movie I saw once but can't remember for the life of me. It was a heist movie where they tried to steal the Mona Lisa. They finally get to the Mona Lisa, break the case grab the painting, roll it up and stick it in a wooden tube. They rolled up the Mona Lisa. The Mona Lisa that's painted onto a piece of wood.
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May 26, 2010 22:34
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I like Sanjuro more than Yojimbo because I really appreciate the sending up of Mifune's character. Both are great, but I've watched Sanjuro more times just because it's got a much lighter tone.
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May 26, 2010 22:55
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KillRoy posted:This reminds of a movie I saw once but can't remember for the life of me. It was a heist movie where they tried to steal the Mona Lisa. They finally get to the Mona Lisa, break the case grab the painting, roll it up and stick it in a wooden tube. That means they didn't really steal the Mona Lisa and it was safely within the museum's walls. 
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Wasn't there a Mr. Bean 'heist' movie that involved the Mona Lisa? I think I watched it on an airplane so my memory's kind of fuzzy. Plus, it's mr loving bean.
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May 27, 2010 01:51
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Fayez Butts posted:Wasn't there a Mr. Bean 'heist' movie that involved the Mona Lisa? I think I watched it on an airplane so my memory's kind of fuzzy. Plus, it's mr loving bean.
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May 27, 2010 01:58
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The Mr. Bean movie sequel was an unabashed calling out of Vincent Gallo and The Brown Bunny. The politics and commentary of the Mr. Bean movies is bizarre to say the least.
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May 27, 2010 02:20
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Hopefully this belongs here, has anyone seen The Stoning of Soraya M.? It looks like an interesting look at the culture surrounding it but it could easily be terrible. Just looking for general thoughts from anyone who has seen it.
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May 27, 2010 03:11
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Honest Thief posted:it was Whistler's Mother and he replaces the original defiled paiting for a plastic replica; now that I think about it's kinda insulting to Americans didn't he used chewed up bubblegum or something like that to attach it to the frame too?
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NeuroticErotica posted:The Mr. Bean movie sequel was an unabashed calling out of Vincent Gallo and The Brown Bunny. Are you being serious? BTW is the Brown Bunny worth seeing?
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EVERYTHING I SAY ABOUT JAPAN OR LIVING IN JAPAN IS COMPLETELY WRONG, BUT YOU BETTER BELIEVE I'LL 
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kapalama posted:Are you being serious? 100% serious. And it's unmistakable if you know the Brown Bunny cannes stories. The Bean director is "Carson Clay", Gallo's character in Bunny is "Bud Clay" (earlier in Buffalo '66 he played Billy Brown and he likes alliterations and multiples of 11), they made Willem Dafoe kinda look like him. It's weirdly out of place for a kid's film, but I guess it's one of those things that is supposed to keep the adults from falling asleep in. I think Brown Bunny is an amazing film.
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kapalama posted:BTW is the Brown Bunny worth seeing? I love The Brown Bunny to death, but it's not for everyone. It's an very powerful and haunting portrait of one man's loneliness and grief. Give it a shot if you're down for that sort of a film journey. Also, Roger Ebert, who harshly criticized the unfinished Cannes cut, ended up giving the final cut three stars. His review is worth checking out: http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040903/REVIEWS/409020301/1023
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So I searched around and couldn't find a thread on it, but I came across this  today:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1281870/50-Cent-loses-54-pounds-Things-Fall-Apart-film-role.html  I was hoping somebody had heard something about this they could share, or could direct me to the appropriate thread? The novel is an excellent book and should probably be required reading.
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I saw that same picture earlier today, (on dlisted or tmz) gotta say I am impressed that fifty-cent would go to such lengths for a movie role. Taking to Bale approach, I guess. If there hadn't been a caption, I doubt I would have recognised him. I don't think there is a thread for the movie. Edit; yeah it was dlisted; http://www.dlisted.com/node?page=1 Barometer fucked around with this message at 23:45 on May 27, 2010 |
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coyo7e posted:I was hoping somebody had heard something about this they could share, or could direct me to the appropriate thread? The novel is an excellent book and should probably be required reading. It has nothing to do with the book you're thinking of.
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May 28, 2010 00:14
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Supposedly he had his tattoos lasered off as well... That's dedication. esp since his last couple of albums didn't do so well
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May 28, 2010 00:18
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Nuke Goes KABOOM posted:It has nothing to do with the book you're thinking of.
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May 28, 2010 00:25
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It's very often assigned as summer reading and poo poo.
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May 28, 2010 00:32
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Nuke Goes KABOOM posted:It has nothing to do with the book you're thinking of. Yeah, this is something about a football player with cancer. I was hoping he'd play Okonkwo 
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coyo7e posted:That's a shame, it's a phenomenal novel and one I think that all young people should probably have a chance to read. I was hoping that some literary spark was driving him to do something along the lines of "Roots" for his generation. Yeah I read that book this year and loved it. Seeing 50 play Okonkwo would be fascinating to say the least.
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I believe the lead actor in the great film Most High lost around 100 pounds for his role, which beats both 50 Cent and Christian Bale in the lead-role weight loss category. Course that was a serious drat movie. I'm also sad it's not a movie about the book
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Do German actors dislike or avoid taking roles as Nazis? It seems to me like German actors, at some point, take a role as a Nazi in some American film because the German film industry just isn't very big...
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it's not like there's countless movies about nazis being made in the US... I don't think that's much of an issue
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thesurlyspringKAA posted:Do German actors dislike or avoid taking roles as Nazis? It seems to me like German actors, at some point, take a role as a Nazi in some American film because the German film industry just isn't very big... If you're an actor, unless your a select few, you take what you can get.
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Here is something thats been bugging me. My dad used to rent this sci-fi/horror movie when i was a kid and i can't remember the name of it. It came out around 90 ish would be my guess and i think it was a series of movies. It was about this tiny gunslinger guy, he was like a foot tall in our world, but he had this shotgun that would take out huge chunks of fools. His arch-enemy was a decapitated head that hovered around using some scientifical gizmo. The gunslinger may also have been a time/inter-dimentional traveler. Thats about all i can remember about them. can anyone help me out?
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Mmbra posted:Here is something thats been bugging me. My dad used to rent this sci-fi/horror movie when i was a kid and i can't remember the name of it. It came out around 90 ish would be my guess and i think it was a series of movies. It was about this tiny gunslinger guy, he was like a foot tall in our world, but he had this shotgun that would take out huge chunks of fools. His arch-enemy was a decapitated head that hovered around using some scientifical gizmo. The gunslinger may also have been a time/inter-dimentional traveler. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2177344
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Mmbra posted:Here is something thats been bugging me. My dad used to rent this sci-fi/horror movie when i was a kid and i can't remember the name of it. It came out around 90 ish would be my guess and i think it was a series of movies. It was about this tiny gunslinger guy, he was like a foot tall in our world, but he had this shotgun that would take out huge chunks of fools. His arch-enemy was a decapitated head that hovered around using some scientifical gizmo. The gunslinger may also have been a time/inter-dimentional traveler. Yeah this is better suited for the 'Identify a Movie for Me' thread. P.S. The movie you're talking about is totally called Dollman. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollman_%28film%29 I swear that or one of the Trancers movies used to be on cable like every night back in the day.
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awesome thats totally it. mucho appreciation.
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thesurlyspringKAA posted:Do German actors dislike or avoid taking roles as Nazis? It seems to me like German actors, at some point, take a role as a Nazi in some American film because the German film industry just isn't very big... The actor how played Col. Klink was a German-born Jew who's family escaped from Germany during World War 2. I've heard he agreed to do the show as long as Klink never had a plan that succeeded. The thing is, there aren't many German actors. Most of the time, they just grab any old European to play a Nazi. Hell Toht from Raiders of the Lost Ark was British. In fact, I think most Hollywood Nazis are played by the British.
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2xSlick posted:The actor how played Col. Klink was a German-born Jew who's family escaped from Germany during World War 2. I've heard he agreed to do the show as long as Klink never had a plan that succeeded. In all fairness, they offered that role to Klaus Kinski first, but he turned it down because he thought the movie was stupid.
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Baron von Eevl posted:In all fairness, they offered that role to Klaus Kinski first, but he turned it down because he thought the movie was stupid. Sorry, Spielberg, but it's true.
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