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Lone Rogue posted:It's completely pure gossip and something I got from a guy who worked as a WWE writer. You can think he's complete BS or I am, but he said Austin and Vince were massive cokeheads. There has to be something about the bearskin rug. Londrick mentioned it, Hall's mentioned it several times, among a couple others.
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Lone Rogue posted:It's completely pure gossip and something I got from a guy who worked as a WWE writer. You can think he's complete BS or I am, but he said Austin and Vince were massive cokeheads. Sorry to derail a little bit, but a good friend of mine grew up with Stone Cold's son. They'd go paintballing with him, ride around on his ATVs etc. One day Boy Austin took my friend into his dad's closet, moved some clothes out of the way and uncovered an insane amount of hash and blow. This must've been circa '01 or so, and I'm not positive how true it is, but there you have it.
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ChampRamp posted:There has to be something about the bearskin rug. Londrick mentioned it, Hall's mentioned it several times, among a couple others. It's a really nice rug.
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May 28, 2010 22:29
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ChampRamp posted:There has to be something about the bearskin rug. Londrick mentioned it, Hall's mentioned it several times, among a couple others. It's an inside joke. Something Awful has the GET OUT frog, the WWE backstage has Vince's bearskin rug.
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May 28, 2010 22:47
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projecthalaxy posted:Have we reached Peak Finisher? WWE seems to be entering the age where the wrestler's realize their finisher is going to be a move they'll be using all-night every night. Jericho does the Codebreaker, Edge has the Spear, Shaemus the Pump Kick, R-Truth just debuted a finisher that's just a flying forearm smash. Honestly, we're just coming out of the era of the "finisher that can come out of nowhere!" Starting with DDP and the Diamond Cutter, peaking with Austin and HBK, and ending appropriately with Orton.
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Big, but not huge, man finisher: sto or uranage.
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Triple-Kan posted:WWE seems to be entering the age where the wrestler's realize their finisher is going to be a move they'll be using all-night every night. Jericho does the Codebreaker, Edge has the Spear, Shaemus the Pump Kick, R-Truth just debuted a finisher that's just a flying forearm smash. all of those finishers you listed are finishers that "come out of nowhere"
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Triple-Kan posted:WWE seems to be entering the age where the wrestler's realize their finisher is going to be a move they'll be using all-night every night. I would hope they realise that finishers should be moves that don't take a toll on their bodies but still have a distinctive look. The Backstabber is a bad choice, as evidenced by Carlito's little painkiller problem. Cena's Attitude Adjuster is a move I'm confident he'll be able to pull off for many more years to come, since it doesn't involve any impact on his part.
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Umbra Dubium posted:Cena's Attitude Adjuster is a move I'm confident he'll be able to pull off for many more years to come, since it doesn't involve any impact on his part. Every time I see him do that I think "Welp, his spine just broke/knees exploded," especially when he did it to both Big Show and Edge.
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Shitty_Wok posted:Every time I see him do that I think "Welp, his spine just broke/knees exploded," especially when he did it to both Big Show and Edge. It's a pretty safe move for the most part - holding the guys on his shoulders isn't much worse than doing a barbell squat, which is pretty biomechanically sound. If anything it will be the little things about it that gently caress him up in the long run, like landing on his knees or some freak muscle tear.
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Kentucky Shark posted:It's a pretty safe move for the most part - holding the guys on his shoulders isn't much worse than doing a barbell squat, which is pretty biomechanically sound. If anything it will be the little things about it that gently caress him up in the long run, like landing on his knees or some freak muscle tear. Or the dumb poo poo he does in the name of OVERCOMING THE ODDS like trying to do it to Big Show/2 people at once with an arm tied behind his back or some poo poo.
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The thing about finishers like the backstabber is that not only does it hurt both people involved in the long run (like when Carlito gave one to Jericho from a ladder) but it looks awkward and silly regardless. There are so many submissions and safe finishers that could be used but are thrown aside because they've either been used in the past (sometimes distant past) or because they aren't 'new and exciting'. Its gotten to the point now where finishers look totally unconvincing - Jericho's codebreaker is a perfect example. If done right any finisher can look devastating but still be safe. Hell, Goldberg made a career out of suplexing people and fans ate it up like he was killing guys. Edit: Two of my favorite new finishers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK4SwP1PAkc Skippy's Backpack Stunner http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orz-OXbK4NY Wade Barrett's forward fireman's carry slam Both seem devastating, but with enough practice and opponents knowing what the hell they are doing neither guy should take more impact than the typical body slam. Orange Carlisle fucked around with this message at 00:29 on May 29, 2010 |
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Mr. Carlisle posted:Hell, Goldberg made a career out of suplexing people and fans ate it up like he was killing guys. That wasn't just any suplex, that was a Jackhammer
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Salt In The Wound posted:That wasn't just any suplex, that was a Jackhammer Indeed, but even though he botched it 90% of the time, his intensity made it seem like a crazy move and it's probably one of the first moves any up and coming wrestling learns. (Well, the typical vertical suplex version anyway)
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Mr. Carlisle posted:
I love how it's Danielson in both of these taking the moves hahaha
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CapCityGoofBall posted:I love how it's Danielson in both of these taking the moves hahaha He makes them both look like a million bucks, too.
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Some finishers rely like 90% on the guy taking it in order to look good. Codebreaker is a victim of this as it almost always looks awkward. Most people just do the "bend over and fall back" sell for it, but they should really drop to their knees and pop to the side like a normal Stunner sell (Triple H is one of the only guys I've seen get it right). Not trying to toot my "I'M A RASSLER" horn here but this .gif is convenient to post - I love the melodramatic sell of the move that my friend does at the end of the loop here. Feet all up in the air and everything: 
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Mr. Carlisle posted:Its gotten to the point now where finishers look totally unconvincing - Jericho's codebreaker is a perfect example. If done right any finisher can look devastating but still be safe. Hell, Goldberg made a career out of suplexing people and fans ate it up like he was killing guys. Anything where you land straight down on your coccyx is going to mess you up in the long run. Even super-smart Hogan hosed himself up good that way. Tangential point, is anyone a totally smart worker? Is there anybody that didn't do anything at all that will mess them up in the long run?
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Theshby posted:Anything where you land straight down on your coccyx is going to mess you up in the long run. Even super-smart Hogan hosed himself up good that way. The Rock comes to mind.
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reality_groove posted:The Rock comes to mind. Yeah, the floatover DDT is probably the most complicated move the guy uses, and he busted those out like every once in a blue moon.
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fandom question: What matches have you guys seen the most times? I think I've seen Rock/Austin 2, Angle/HBK (WM21), Angle/Undertaker (NWO 06), and the Unbreakable 3-way all half a dozen times. Also Benoit/Jordan from SS05 maybe about a hundred times in the last five years.
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Web Jew.0 posted:fandom question: What matches have you guys seen the most times? I still rewatch Undertaker/Mankind Hell in a Cell every now and then, but recently the Rey de Voladores Qualifier from last years King of Trios is rapidly catching up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAIvDeoMkq4
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About the most high-risk thing JBL ever did was smoke cigars.
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Timby posted:About the most high-risk thing JBL ever did was smoke cigars. I dunno, having unprotected sex with cruiserweights has to have some risk factor, right?
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Pneub posted:It's a really nice rug. It really brings the room together.
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Jericho seems to have been almost totally injury-free despite his style and some of the more brutal matches he's had, the ladder match, HITC, Elimination Chamber, Money in the Bank. OK, I just realized that really wasn't answering the question that was asked, so I'll also go with Rock. Also, I don't think Hogan really ever took any huge risks for being the biggest star in the world. Also, Ive probably seen Angle-Benoit from RR 03 close to ten times if not more. oldpainless fucked around with this message at 18:28 on May 29, 2010 |
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Technically I think Jericho broke his arm while wrestling in Japan or Mexico. Said so in his book. Here's a question: After Cena, do you think anyone on the current roster will be the WWE poster child?
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Orton is the franchise star of the future.
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Theshby posted:Anything where you land straight down on your coccyx is going to mess you up in the long run. Even super-smart Hogan hosed himself up good that way. Well as you indirectly point out, even being a really smart worker will probably gently caress you up if you do it for long enough, Hogan being the best evidence. Yeah The Rock got out pretty injury-free, but he was an active wrestler for less than 10 years and really only was full-time for like 7 or 8 years.
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I've seen Low Ki vs KENTA quite a few times, and I turn into a huge mark everytime.
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BlueArmyMan posted:It really brings the room together. I really want someone in Chikara to cut a classic two-guys-talk-one-guy-into-picking-a-fight promo in which they just paraphrase this scene. Especially if Delirious is Donny.
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8xmjt_lesnar-meets-cm-punk-and-mr-kennedy_sport I wasn't watching wrestling in 2002 or most of 2003....why the gently caress was Punk there?
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Gov. Marley posted:http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8xmjt_lesnar-meets-cm-punk-and-mr-kennedy_sport he was a regular used chicago local guy and was given multiple tryouts, likely at the behest of Eddie and Rey.
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Gov. Marley posted:http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8xmjt_lesnar-meets-cm-punk-and-mr-kennedy_sport Rey and Eddie both worked in ROH in 02/03. Apparently, Eddie especially liked working with Punk and got WWE to use him whenever they could.
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George Kaplan posted:I really want someone in Chikara to cut a classic two-guys-talk-one-guy-into-picking-a-fight promo in which they just paraphrase this scene. Especially if Delirious is Donny. Bonus points if it's Two Gentlemen of Lebowski.
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Spikeguy posted:Here's a question: After Cena, do you think anyone on the current roster will be the WWE poster child?
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Now do you mean he'll be a big star? Because I'm more wondering who the biz will be wrapped around, ala Hogan and Austin. Unless someone new pops up and just takes over, I'd say it would be Orton as well.
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Spikeguy posted:Here's a question: After Cena, do you think anyone on the current roster will be the WWE poster child?  Funny how they're letting him use his real name, but making Bryan Danielson use a different name.
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I don't think it'll be Orton, just because of his sometimes-bitchy interviews, his steroid history and his background with getting drummed out of the Army. He's not really the guy you want to have as your go-to media mouthpiece. The Miz isn't a bad suggestion, but I honestly wouldn't be shocked to see Ted DiBiase, Jr., evolve into that role.
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Timby posted:I don't think it'll be Orton, just because of his sometimes-bitchy interviews, his steroid history and his background with getting drummed out of the Army. He's not really the guy you want to have as your go-to media mouthpiece. It already is Orton. He signed a ten year contract recently and is now permanent main event status. It isn't 2006 anymore.
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