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I think we should keep the Deus Ex thread to discussing good games, like Deus Ex. Meaning not Fallout 3. What's the word on the HDTP nowadays? Is it worth using?
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Is it just me or does the synthetic heart aug still suck hard in shifter?
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May 29, 2010 17:11
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Astroturf Man posted:Is it just me or does the synthetic heart aug still suck hard in shifter? Though it wouldn't boost the Spy Drone Aug to level 4, must be a bug there 
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May 29, 2010 17:22
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...of SCIENCE! posted:The first time I played it took me way too long to realize that "enemies" meant my enemies; since the game is so immersive I figured that since it was the enemy's computer that "enemies" meant their enemies, which were my allies. The best setting is everything. DIE, CHAIRS!
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May 29, 2010 17:40
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The Supreme Court posted:What. It's awesome! I used it to boost my vision from "can see through walls into the next room" to "can see the entire map". Yess. It takes 100 energy/minute, there are enough upgrade cylinders to max pretty much everything and it means you can't get power recirculator. In shifter it can take stuff to level 5, which is a definite improvement but level 5 doesn't seem to be that much better (for instance, L4 regeneration is 40 hp/second and costs 120 energy/min, whereas L5 regeneration is 55 hp/second and costs 220 energy/min with synthetic heart).
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May 29, 2010 17:50
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Things that own in Invisible War: -"I'd love to be your chamber boy" -Glass Destabilizer weapon mod -Talking to JC in Antarctica and Paul in Cairo: i.e. the only people with thoughtful dialogue. -Back story of the Grays.
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May 29, 2010 18:10
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Astroturf Man posted:It takes 100 energy/minute, there are enough upgrade cylinders to max pretty much everything and it means you can't get power recirculator. For a whole lot of augs, you only need the boost to level 5 for a few seconds at a time. Regeneration is a terrible example. Consider speed enhancement (you only need an instant of extra power to fuel your leaps), vision enhancement (just take a quick look around to spot everyone in the level), skull gun (  ), targeting (pop it on take the shot and turn it off again) or microfibral muscle (just enough to toss that TNT crate across the room).The power recirculator's pretty cool too.
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May 29, 2010 18:16
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You gotta have GOD clearance to know!
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May 29, 2010 18:22
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Male Man posted:For a whole lot of augs, you only need the boost to level 5 for a few seconds at a time. Regeneration is a terrible example. Consider speed enhancement (you only need an instant of extra power to fuel your leaps), vision enhancement (just take a quick look around to spot everyone in the level), skull gun ( I see your point. It's just the bulk of the stuff I use is either on for a fight or doesn't need to be jacked up that high. Other shifter stuff: The Jackhammer is hilarious as one click of the mouse burns through five shells Precision rifle is pretty cool with the infrared scope and the fast firing. Although not much will stand up to one sniper bullet through the head and losing the ability to shoot out cameras/turrets probably makes it less worthwhile than the regular sniper rifle. Astroturf Man fucked around with this message at 19:37 on May 29, 2010 |
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May 29, 2010 18:31
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Astroturf Man posted:It takes 100 energy/minute, there are enough upgrade cylinders to max pretty much everything and it means you can't get power recirculator. I have a bunch of upgrade canisters to use, I really can't decide what to put them in. Super legs seems to be too obvious and I've done it with nearly every playthrough. Perhaps super strength? Balistic protection? Spy drone? Aqualungs?????? GOD DAMNED TERRORISTS. -UNATCO GUY #47
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May 29, 2010 18:33
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The woman with all the cats in Paris sure seemed happy I'd killed the Greasels. She doesn't appear to have realized that she doesn't have any cats left. drat you shifter and your 10 skill points per squashed cat. 
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May 29, 2010 18:52
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Marvin_Gardens posted:Things that own in Invisible War: - Bot Domination
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May 29, 2010 20:29
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AXE COP posted:- Bot Domination Don't forget the ability to turn bodies into health with the power of nanites!  with one of the augs. I believe you got a bonus if the guy was only unconscious and not dead as well.
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May 29, 2010 20:40
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I really want to try Invisible War, but when I tried to play it right after Deus Ex it sucked rear end. I need to wait for those delicious memories to wear off before I start it again.
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May 29, 2010 20:51
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I installed the IW demo when it was new and it wouldn't run on my lovely hardware at the time. Then the reviews started coming out and since then I mostly just pretend it doesn't exist.
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May 29, 2010 20:58
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Marvin_Gardens posted:Things that own in Invisible War: -Weapon upgrade system Fixed the "pinpoint-accurate sniper death pistol with 20 bullets per clip that fires as fast as a machinegun" upgrade system of the first by limiting the number of upgrades you could install to 2 per weapon but making them much more meaningful (like the aforementioned glass destabilizer).
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May 29, 2010 21:10
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Marvin_Gardens posted:Things that own in Invisible War: Whats the gray back story? I don't feel like getting and playing the game just to find it out.
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May 29, 2010 21:49
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Pretty Little Rainbow posted:Whats the gray back story? I don't feel like getting and playing the game just to find it out. As I recall, they were genetically engineered by the Illuminati and used to convince people aliens existed in order to distract all the conspiracy theorists from the real conspiracy.
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May 29, 2010 23:10
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...of SCIENCE! posted:-Weapon upgrade system Grand Fromage posted:As I recall, they were genetically engineered by the Illuminati and used to convince people aliens existed in order to distract all the conspiracy theorists from the real conspiracy.
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May 29, 2010 23:19
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Grand Fromage posted:As I recall, they were genetically engineered by the Illuminati and used to convince people aliens existed in order to distract all the conspiracy theorists from the real conspiracy. That was revealed in DX. Was there something else in IW?
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May 29, 2010 23:25
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:That was revealed in DX. Was there something else in IW? At what point was that revealed? I can't remember it at the moment.
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May 29, 2010 23:46
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i think it was just implied in deus ex
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May 29, 2010 23:47
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:That was revealed in DX. Was there something else in IW? They were also engineered by Versalife to be telepathically-controlled soldiers with greater tolerance of extreme environments. The Omar are the Russian counterparts more or less. However, the Grays in Antarctica are JC's custodians and guardians because he saved them from the Versalife labs and gave them a home. One of the first jobs you get from an Omar is to find a datacube with Gray genetic specs in order to enhance Omar survivability.
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May 29, 2010 23:51
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Fag Boy Jim posted:i think it was just implied in deus ex Yes and no. A technician you run into at the end of the game will tell you a bit about the greys if you keep talking to him. He tells you they aren't actually aliens. In fact, I'm pretty sure he tells you they're just "shaved apes, engineered to survive in high radiation environments". Pretty easy to miss, though, because you only need to talk to that technician if you're going for Tong's ending, and even then, he only talks about it if you stick around and keep clicking on him.
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May 30, 2010 00:23
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There's definitely an email in versalife talking about them, though I can't remember if it spelled out the fake conspiracy thing
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May 30, 2010 00:43
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Gollom posted:Yes and no. A technician you run into at the end of the game will tell you a bit about the greys if you keep talking to him. He tells you they aren't actually aliens. In fact, I'm pretty sure he tells you they're just "shaved apes, engineered to survive in high radiation environments". Yeah I remember that. Blew my mind a little.
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May 30, 2010 03:49
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There is a file that mentions the shaved ape thing also, part of the other alien conspiracy theories that the "greys" people see are actually irradiated human/simian experiment victims.
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May 30, 2010 04:37
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Gollom posted:Yes and no. A technician you run into at the end of the game will tell you a bit about the greys if you keep talking to him. He tells you they aren't actually aliens. In fact, I'm pretty sure he tells you they're just "shaved apes, engineered to survive in high radiation environments". I was just at that part and he doesn't say those things for sure. He's skeptical about them being aliens and is just speculating about what they may really be. I guess he ends up being right, but the confirmation doesn't come from him.
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May 30, 2010 04:51
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Reading through this gargantuan thread has finally taken its toll on me, too. Does anyone have a link to a "don't wanna miss a single thing" in this glorious game? I've probably played through entirely at least 10 times, on various difficulties. The thing is, I always find my usual style as I just seem to have to min/max EVERYTHING, every time. This is my first time with Shifter. I'm going for something a little different this time, such as trying out people's suggestions of using the upgraded magnum, using non-lethal at least until I can get a blackjack (does it matter if you've possibly killed 1 or 2 people? I did get the "doing well so far" line from Paul). Who else finds themselves scouring the entire HK area, going through ALL the nooks and crannies, diving around the sampans looking for secrets? Every drat time. Even though I'm fairly sure that I've actually found all the little tidbits - something that is rarely possible to say in DX. Nonetheless, I do occasionally miss bits per playthrough.
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May 30, 2010 09:03
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There's also an Email in DX that speculated that the grays might not be recovered aliens themselves, but modified clones of previous ones. Obviously didn't end up being true, but just shows that DX wasn't anywhere near conclusive on them.
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May 30, 2010 10:12
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Pretty sure in Area 51 there are old emails from the time when Bob Page was a new member in the Illuminati and he's talking about bringing back the genetic modification of cows poo poo. He gets a reply from Everett saying that genetic engineering is a dead end field of study but creating more of the greys would be useful for meme production.
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May 30, 2010 16:49
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May 31, 2010 01:23
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BattleMaster posted:I was just at that part and he doesn't say those things for sure. He's skeptical about them being aliens and is just speculating about what they may really be. Hmm, I was SURE it was him, because of the greys in the area nearby. But I haven't played through to that part in a while, so maybe I'm confusing him with someone/thing else. Clearly, its time for my yearly Deus Ex playthrough.
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May 31, 2010 02:10
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I'll probably be ordering my new PC later this week, so it won't be long till I can finally give Shifter a try!  Is Biomod still recommended?
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May 31, 2010 02:12
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Gollom posted:Hmm, I was SURE it was him, because of the greys in the area nearby. But I haven't played through to that part in a while, so maybe I'm confusing him with someone/thing else. Clearly, its time for my yearly Deus Ex playthrough. I had a savegame near that spot so I went and took a look at what he said again.  Click here for the full 1280x1024 image.
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May 31, 2010 02:20
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That jerk had a major tantrum about me messing with the reactors and when I pushed the button to overload those bitches and restart society so he acted like a baby and tried to kill me with a shotgun.
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May 31, 2010 02:23
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May 31, 2010 02:56
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I haven't read through this entire thread, but is it ever addressed why JC says that he hopes he doesn't grow green antennae or something? It's when he's talking to Reyes at UNATCO headquarters and it implies that the nanobots' origins are alien.
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May 31, 2010 03:19
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SeanBeansShako posted:That jerk had a major tantrum about me messing with the reactors and when I pushed the button to overload those bitches and restart society so he acted like a baby and tried to kill me with a shotgun. Dark Age Ending is the best, especially since JC outruns a anti-matter explosion.
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Inspector Ratcliffe posted:I haven't read through this entire thread, but is it ever addressed why JC says that he hopes he doesn't grow green antennae or something? It's when he's talking to Reyes at UNATCO headquarters and it implies that the nanobots' origins are alien. It's called a joke.
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