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squidflakes posted:Get too in to underwater photography and 10 grand suddenly becomes "a good beginner's set-up" no joke. 
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squidflakes posted:Get too in to underwater photography and 10 grand suddenly becomes "a good beginner's set-up" I really wanna do this one day.
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May 31, 2010 19:37
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Yes, I too would like to start a conversation with fellow dive photographers with the dollar amount of gear I flooded on my last outing, then have a throaty laugh and swing another ice cold mexican beer.
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I don't like beer  I just think underwater photography is neat & I want to do more scuba diving 
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Quadratica! posted:I really wanna do this one day. It's very rewarding. Just be prepared to be broke.
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Jun 1, 2010 04:14
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My "Canon PowerShot SD4000IS 10 MP CMOS Digital Camera with 3.8x Optical Zoom and f/2.0 Lens (Black)" is set for delivery today. Which means I'll get home, have a "we tried to deliver" note, sign the form, and they'll deliver it tomorrow. Still, pretty psyched to have a good P&S again. The wife never ever takes pictures because she hates using the big camera.
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torgeaux posted:My "Canon PowerShot SD4000IS 10 MP CMOS Digital Camera with 3.8x Optical Zoom and f/2.0 Lens (Black)" is set for delivery today. Which means I'll get home, have a "we tried to deliver" note, sign the form, and they'll deliver it tomorrow. You cant go to the tracking page and print the paper that you can sign so the delivery man can leave it? I thought UPS, Fedex, and USPS do that now a days.
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Shmoogy posted:You cant go to the tracking page and print the paper that you can sign so the delivery man can leave it? I thought UPS, Fedex, and USPS do that now a days. Do they really? That would definitely be helpful for me, I dont know about the other guy.
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Bojanglesworth posted:Do they really? That would definitely be helpful for me, I dont know about the other guy. I think there might be some sort of thing the seller has to do on their end to enable it, because I couldn't really find anything on the search engines for UPS/Fedex. The last two packages I've received via FedEx have had a link I could click on to print out and sign, if I wanted the delivery man to leave it without anybody being there to accept the package. I'm fairly certain UPS can do it as well, but I'm not certain how it works with them or USPS.
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Shmoogy posted:I think there might be some sort of thing the seller has to do on their end to enable it, because I couldn't really find anything on the search engines for UPS/Fedex. The last two packages I've received via FedEx have had a link I could click on to print out and sign, if I wanted the delivery man to leave it without anybody being there to accept the package. I think it has to be enabled upfront. I can't find a way to do it now. Of course, I'm not at home, so it won't help anyway. I have a plumber there today, maybe he'll sign for it.
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torgeaux posted:My "Canon PowerShot SD4000IS 10 MP CMOS Digital Camera with 3.8x Optical Zoom and f/2.0 Lens (Black)" is set for delivery today. Which means I'll get home, have a "we tried to deliver" note, sign the form, and they'll deliver it tomorrow. I was looking at that earlier- it's pretty cool that Canon is making point and shoots with fast lenses again, I really hope this becomes a trend. My ancient Sony Mavica had an f/1.8 lens, I always wondered why they couldn't pack similar lenses into modern point and shoots.
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Augmented Dickey posted:My ancient Sony Mavica had an f/1.8 lens, I always wondered why they couldn't pack similar lenses into modern point and shoots. I assume it has something to do with the ancient sensors being about the size of a frame of 8mm movie film.
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I'm getting a G11 and I'm more psyched than when I got my 5D. I think it's because it means mobility and fun, whereas the 5D represents seriousness and hard work, haha.
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McMadCow posted:I assume it has something to do with the ancient sensors being about the size of a frame of 8mm movie film. Eh you're right, the sensor was only 1/4" nonanone posted:I'm getting a G11 and I'm more psyched than when I got my 5D. I think it's because it means mobility and fun, whereas the 5D represents seriousness and hard work, haha. It's really surprising how much mobility comes into play, even when you get serious about photography. I was super psyched when I got my Mamiya 645, but I quickly found myself reverting to TLR's when I realized how huge and heavy it was (especially with the motor drive attached). Sure, the IQ was fantastic, but I couldn't justify using such a massive camera on a regular basis.
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Augmented Dickey posted:It's really surprising how much mobility comes into play, even when you get serious about photography. Goddamn if this isn't true. I found the tiny-rear end combination of my 410 body and little 25mm pancake lens to still be my favorite walk-around because it's so drat small.
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ease posted:Met Art photography is simply the best type of photography. It was a few days back but I don't care That's the last time I google terms from SA that I don't know.*  http://www.met-art.com  *Not really, I knew what it was.
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Augmented Dickey posted:I was looking at that earlier- it's pretty cool that Canon is making point and shoots with fast lenses again, I really hope this becomes a trend. I thought those reported apertures needed to be converted to a 35mm/SLR equivalent? Or perhaps that was with older P&S models.
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scottch posted:I thought those reported apertures needed to be converted to a 35mm/SLR equivalent? Or perhaps that was with older P&S models. Only the focal length. Aperture is a ratio. So if the Lens is 5mm but 50mm equiv for FF, the aperture for a F/1.8 would be 2.8mm which would get the same conversion up to the 28mm aperture for a 50mm. Not F/18. 
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nonanone posted:I'm getting a G11 and I'm more psyched than when I got my 5D. I think it's because it means mobility and fun, whereas the 5D represents seriousness and hard work, haha. scottch posted:I thought those reported apertures needed to be converted to a 35mm/SLR equivalent? Or perhaps that was with older P&S models.
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evil_bunnY posted:An aperture is not sensor-size specific. Are you sure about that? I was under the impression that smaller film/sensor size= less glass needed to go super wide. I have an Angenieux f1.4 constant aperture zoom lens for one of my s8 movie cameras an that has a tiny light path vs a 35mm f1.4. Or are we talking about two different things here...?
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McMadCow posted:Are you sure about that? I was under the impression that smaller film/sensor size= less glass needed to go super wide. The light path of the 35mm f/1.4 is larger because the lens is larger. The focal length is first converted to the relatively-easy-to-understand 35mm format, e.g. the lens is 8mm, but has the same field of view as a 24mm wide angle lens on the 35mm format, so it's simply called "24mm". Then, the aperture of the 8mm lens is calculated for the actual lens focal length, that is, 8mm. So, f/1.4 would be 8/1.4 or 5.7mm or so. The actual size of the aperture is the same, no matter the size of the sensor. Example: Suppose you have a Canon 7D and a 5dII. You put the 50mm f/1.0 on each. The field of view on the 7D is 80mm, while the field of view on the 5DII is 50mm. The maximum aperture on each is still 50mm, because it's the actual focal length that's divided, not the relative field of view. For exposure purposes, your brain is saying, 50mm aperture on an effective 80mm lens is not f/1.0, it's f/1.6. But it's not. The fact that only the center of the circle of light is being used instead of a larger portion of the center of the circle of light doesn't change how much light there is. torgeaux fucked around with this message at 20:44 on Jun 1, 2010 |
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torgeaux posted:The light path of the 35mm f/1.4 is larger because the lens is larger. The focal length is first converted to the relatively-easy-to-understand 35mm format, e.g. the lens is 8mm, but has the same field of view as a 24mm wide angle lens on the 35mm format, so it's simply called "24mm". To further explain or muddy up the watters. If you could put that 35mm f1.4 on your 8mm handicam it would be a ~160mm f1.4 A lens roughly on par with this $5500 beast. This could quickly devolve into lovely symantec arguments about apparent aperture but suffice it to say that it's easier to make a fast lens for a smaller (lower res) sensor because the quality isn't there to expose the flaws. Imagine if you down sampled every image you took to 2mp. You'd hardly ever see CA.
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evil_bunnY posted:Meh. I like that it exists, but I much prefer something I can carry in my pants pockets. Girl pockets. I can't carry anything in them, so anything reasonably convenient that I can fit in a purse is fair game. I could probably do a with a better camera phone too.
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Ahh the old Sony Cybershots were awesome to me at the time. I used to drool over Mavicas. This was my first digital camera : http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Cyber-shot-DCS-P30-Digital-Camera/dp/B00005I9PE It was an awesome macro camera, I took some great photos with it on accident on several occasions. ease fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Jun 1, 2010 |
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ease posted:Ahh the old Sony Cybershots were awesome to me at the time. I used to drool over Mavicas. My first digital was the Mavica FD, using the 1.4MB 3.5 inch floppies. I still have those floppy disks somewhere. Of course, I have no computer with a floppy drive.
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torgeaux posted:The light path of the 35mm f/1.4 is larger because the lens is larger. The focal length is first converted to the relatively-easy-to-understand 35mm format, e.g. the lens is 8mm, but has the same field of view as a 24mm wide angle lens on the 35mm format, so it's simply called "24mm". Honestly, the world needs to start describing lenses by the their field of view in degrees. There, I said it. Oh, and lenses should be rated in T-stops. 
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Also, put bokeh quality somewhere next the f/# on the lens. Like awesome bokeh, OK bokeh, lovely bokeh.
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ease posted:Also, put bokeh quality somewhere next the f/# on the lens. Like awesome bokeh, OK bokeh, lovely bokeh. It could all be combined into a composite numerical unit called Rockwells.
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BeastOfExmoor posted:Honestly, the world needs to start describing lenses by the their field of view in degrees. There, I said it. But the field of view in degrees is dependent entirely on how much of the image circle you decide to crop out, whereas the focal length is (like aperture) a physical property of the lens. The problem is that people _think_ in terms of angle of view -- the only reason that we can use terms like "a 24mm field of view" is because everyone is so used to the 24x36mm image size. I think that's probably starting to change with the number of crop-sensor cameras. It might be useful for manufacturers to note the angle of view of a lens on the most common format, though. Just stick it on the box or something.
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Multiplying by 1.5 or 2 is too hard 
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evil_bunnY posted:Multiplying by 1.5 or 2 is too hard Canon is 1.6 you insensitive clod* * still not that hard.
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Found this iPhone app today that I kind of want to give a try. http://www.redgiantsoftware.com/products/all/plastic-bullet/ Since (my 3G) iPhone has such a lovely camera, turning it into a lomo-kind of thing is sort of appealing. Not sure how I feel about it being faked, but I'm not such a purist that I don't enjoy some of the stuff coming out of the app Kind of like Holga for your iPhone.
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Martytoof posted:Found this iPhone app today that I kind of want to give a try. Hipstamtic is really good for that sort of thing, quite slow at times though. But well worth a try.
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torgeaux posted:My first digital was the Mavica FD, using the 1.4MB 3.5 inch floppies. I still have those floppy disks somewhere. Of course, I have no computer with a floppy drive. My father bought one a few years ago as a gimmick. He's always had a thing about collecting cameras and never using them. I hobby that has definitely benefited me.
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I re-regged basically 100% for Dorkroom-related reasons. Ya'll are just too good 
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Yay, welcome back. Didn't Dorkasaurus get banned as well?
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Is there a story behind the bannings? I mean, there always is, but is there a good one
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Pompous Rhombus posted:I re-regged basically 100% for Dorkroom-related reasons. Ya'll are just too good Welcome back buddy. I had one of those Mavica FDs as well, it was actually a pretty awesome camera for what it was but the reliability of floppy disks left a lot to desire. I remember them sending me some promo materials about the amazing new CD-R using Mavica and my mind was blown.
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diarrhea for girls posted:Welcome back buddy. You know who else liked the Mavica FDs? That's right,
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Pompous Rhombus posted:I re-regged basically 100% for Dorkroom-related reasons. Ya'll are just too good
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