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SWATJester posted:There were a few people on the A-100 list that mentioned that they passed the OA, retook the FSOT for another cone and didn't pass the QEP even though they submitted the same PNQs. dang. And here I was thinking at least I don't have to worry about the QEP the second time around.
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sah deuudes posted:QEP results are out...and I didn't make the cut in the Political cone. If you're serious about reapplying, GET YOUR RESULTS BACK. I blew it off and still kick myself for it.
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The Mantis posted:If you're serious about reapplying, GET YOUR RESULTS BACK. I was under the impression there was no further feedback other than a yes/no on the QEPs. Maybe I'm incorrect?
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Maybe you are. And maybe you are. Check your documents. You have have (I think) six weeks to request a score breakdown.
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Signed up to take the FSOT next week! Going for econ.
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The Mantis posted:Maybe you are. And maybe you are. That is for the FSOT, not the QEP.
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Also, crossposting:quote:Hello:
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SWATJester posted:Also, crossposting: I applied for some of these jobs about a month ago and I just got word that I "don't have specialized experience." I'm not really surprised but it makes me not want to apply for any govt job because the drat application takes forever. At my level of experience I doubt I would qualify for anything. Thanks for the update though.
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So this is a sort of related/unrelated question. I'm not sure where else to ask. Other than the FS, I've applied for more specialized jobs with various other government agencies which will remain nameless. I applied almost a month ago for one and still haven't even gotten a notification that they've ever received my application. Is this pretty par for the course for government jobs? I sent a very professional email yesterday to notify them that I had officially received my M.A. but also to gently ask whether they'd gotten my application. Is that generally okay? Anyway, even if I don't get this one, I'm just going to keep applying for the Foreign Service until they break down and hire me.
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I don't mean to come off as harsh with regard to my fellow applicants, but part of me hopes that at least part of the suitability review process following OAs includes monitoring the yahoo boards and the nature of a candidate's contacts with the DoS workers that manage the register and A-100 invitations. I know that there must be a lot of type-A personalities waiting for clearance or waiting to get a call off the register, but yiiiiiiiiiikes I get an unpleasant whiff of desperation/entitlement from some of these folks. Calling the office seemingly daily, complaining about the feedback from the two people who manage the register of hundreds of sperging oddballs. I feel like your abilitiy to wait on the register without acting like a nutball might be some indication of your ability to do the job. e: To be clear, this observation is not directed at anyone who has posted in this thread. Bizob fucked around with this message at 15:43 on Jun 4, 2010 |
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Bizob posted:I don't mean to come off as harsh with regard to my fellow applicants, but part of me hopes that at least part of the suitability review process following OAs includes monitoring the yahoo boards and the nature of a candidate's contacts with the DoS workers that manage the register and A-100 invitations. You should see the gradcafe thread for the Fulbright, same deal. Obviously intelligent people go nuts and harass the office staff, it's pretty disturbing.
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I take it you saw the post that one chick made calling the assessors racist because she failed the SI?
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SWATJester posted:I take it you saw the post that one chick made calling the assessors racist because she failed the SI? Wow, I missed that one. I was just talking about the run of the mill moaning and incessant requests for information from the two DoS staffers, not the top grade flame outs. Of course maybe she has a point. I'm a white dude and the SI was the only part that I passed.
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CherryCola posted:So this is a sort of related/unrelated question. I'm not sure where else to ask. Other than the FS, I've applied for more specialized jobs with various other government agencies which will remain nameless. I applied almost a month ago for one and still haven't even gotten a notification that they've ever received my application. Is this pretty par for the course for government jobs? That's been my experience too. When I applied for the courier job I got a "forwarded to hiring official" a few months later, then a form rejection later saying I didn't make it through the QEP a few months after that. Zero communication in the interim :-\ Has been similar with other jobs I've applied for.
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Suppose there's a rumor around, the man upstairs and the men in the room across from him are changing federal hiring policy - - 80 day max period from initial contact (handing in of resume) to determination of hiring or not interested. Many are interpreting this as "offer letter vs rejection letter" - must accept resume/CV's regardless of Agency. - no longer can ask about KSA's (knowledge, skill, ability) - can not do the questionnaires (TELL US WHY...), but will be allowed to ask anything on SF-85's. - can not be so stringent on requirements (i.e. for IMS-type positions, must be able to do work requested at minimum. No more MA's for C.J. jobs. Lot of HR Folks are nervous about this last one) Of course, DoS (Foreign - No word on Civil Dept.) and a few others (DOD, NSA, CIA) are/will be exempt from these rules. However USAID, Peace Corps look to fall under the new guidance. For what it's worth, Obama's pretty pissed at federal across the board... not saying anyone in any agency is 'lazy' or does less work/spaces work out to look more busy, but that kind of behavior (higher turnover of work output) is what he seems to be getting at. Oh, and he's making a hell of an example out of the FAA Skandiaavity fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Jun 4, 2010 |
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Bizob posted:Wow, I missed that one. I was just talking about the run of the mill moaning and incessant requests for information from the two DoS staffers, not the top grade flame outs. Yeah she was like "They were racist" and when she got called out on it she was like "Well, they never asked any racist questions, but they are designed to make you reveal your political and religious ideology, so they can discriminate on you that way" and literally every single respondent was like "what the gently caress are you talking about, no they aren't."
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SWATJester posted:I take it you saw the post that one chick made calling the assessors racist because she failed the SI? Imagine being stuck at a small hardship post with this person.
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Skandiaavity posted:Suppose there's a rumor around, the man upstairs and the men in the room across from him are changing federal hiring policy - I think this overhaul is good because federal applications are pretty unrealistic. I get non-competitive hiring status because I was in the AmeriCorps but of course my resumes never get looked at because of the hiring requirements. Then add the fact that each application takes forever to fill out and it makes me not even want to try. The AmeriCorps really touts the fact that alumni get this amazing non-competitive status for federal positions but I see now that is really doesn't seem that great after all. But, on the other hand, there are thousands of people applying for these jobs so it must be a daunting task trying to cull through each application.
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the flip side is if they just get 50,000 resumes they're just going to further the process hiring mainly academic/business relationships. (this is why i like state, they don't really do that and everyone has to go through the same process)
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Omits-Bagels posted:I think this overhaul is good because federal applications are pretty unrealistic. I get non-competitive hiring status because I was in the AmeriCorps but of course my resumes never get looked at because of the hiring requirements. Then add the fact that each application takes forever to fill out and it makes me not even want to try.  non-competitive hiring status buddy! Any luck so far? 
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Pompous Rhombus posted:
I was in Americorps too, like 8 years ago, and I had no idea this supposedly existed. Live and learn, I guess.
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Bizob posted:I was in Americorps too, like 8 years ago, and I had no idea this supposedly existed. Live and learn, I guess. I wasn't in Americorps, but I have the same deal from a scholarship I took as a senior. I actually owe the government a year of work for it, but it's been hell finding anything I'm qualified for, let alone something related to what I got the scholarship for (Thai language).
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117 degrees out yesterday. You can imagine how happy I was to be wearing that body armor. . . .  Also, the Memorial Day NIACT made the Sounding Board. Which one of you was it?
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Business of Ferrets posted:117 degrees out yesterday. You can imagine how happy I was to be wearing that body armor. . . . Not me!
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Will having been in North Korea for a day tour and having a North Korean security stamp in my passport disqualify me anything? Sorry if it's a stupid question, but figured it worth asking before I start getting anywhere near serious about taking the test.
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Bizarre, I didn't know this thread existed and I'm taking the FSOT in 36 hours. The Army turned out to not be my thing; I'm a corporal right now and am on my way out. The test sounds like something I'd do as a hobby, I'm really expecting a 5.7 or thereabouts. I know I'll need it for the political cone.
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lokk posted:Will having been in North Korea for a day tour and having a North Korean security stamp in my passport disqualify me anything? Sorry if it's a stupid question, but figured it worth asking before I start getting anywhere near serious about taking the test. Haven't heard of it.. (maybe a security clearance, in which speaking from personal experience - you're going to have to justify the hell out of that.) However, I see no reason why it would actually disqualify you from the hiring process. Maybe even give you a leg up?
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Aliquid posted:Bizarre, I didn't know this thread existed and I'm taking the FSOT in 36 hours. The Army turned out to not be my thing; I'm a corporal right now and am on my way out. The test sounds like something I'd do as a hobby, I'm really expecting a 5.7 or thereabouts. I know I'll need it for the political cone. You don't get that score until after the FSOA, not the OT. Also, you'll need to do really ace on the test to get a 5.7 in POL; I felt like I had a really strong test and got a 5.5. Keep in mind though, that as a vet (E-4 Mafia represent!) you'll get your 0.175 bonus points -- after the test.
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walrusonthehill posted:How much, if any, did you guys study for the FSOT? I crammed a lot via wikipedia and google a few days leading up to it. I passed and feel like I did really well but I think I would have done much better had I read a few books that have been recommended here including Career Diplomacy which really gives a comprehensive look at DOS and the FS (from what I can tell).
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Hey guys, I know this is the foreign service thread, but I just thought I'd show you this in case anyone is open to other opportunities. http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/doc/gov/1774865345.html The national geospacial intelligence agency is hiring for a whole bunch of positions.
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CherryCola posted:Hey guys, I know this is the foreign service thread, but I just thought I'd show you this in case anyone is open to other opportunities. http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/doc/gov/1774865345.html They're always hiring, I've heard their radio ads every day since I got to DC 3 years ago.
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SWATJester posted:They're always hiring, I've heard their radio ads every day since I got to DC 3 years ago. oh...well, I'm out of the loop over here in the midwest. Is it an okay place to work for?
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CherryCola posted:oh...well, I'm out of the loop over here in the midwest. Is it an okay place to work for? I'm told yes, they also tout that they are in some top 10 best companies to work for thing. But I'm told yes, legitimately good to work for.
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Business of Ferrets posted:117 degrees out yesterday. You can imagine how happy I was to be wearing that body armor. . . . Oh god finally read it. So we have a subject matter expert who's explanation was "yeah it was a pain in the rear end but we made it less so by making you come in on a saturday morning instead of the middle of the night!". Thanks dude.
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SWATJester posted:You don't get that score until after the FSOA, not the OT. Also, you'll need to do really ace on the test to get a 5.7 in POL; I felt like I had a really strong test and got a 5.5. Keep in mind though, that as a vet (E-4 Mafia represent!) you'll get your 0.175 bonus points -- after the test. I only had E-4 slapped on me because I was a 09S, an officer candidate. Medical problems caused me to wash the gently caress out of OCS hard, and general life issues made me realize the military is not even close to the working environment in which I want to live. No vet preference; in fact, I'm not even out of the service yet. I go in on Saturday to try to convince them to kick me out. Anyone on here not a blueblood under any circumstance? I have a degree from a good school, but only a BA, and I worked fifty hours a week to graduate debt-free, so my GPA is awful. Everything I know is essentially self-learned, and it's pretty hard for that to show through on a pen-and-paper test. Again, that's why I know I have to do extremely well.
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Aliquid posted:I only had E-4 slapped on me because I was a 09S, an officer candidate. Medical problems caused me to wash the gently caress out of OCS hard, and general life issues made me realize the military is not even close to the working environment in which I want to live. No vet preference; in fact, I'm not even out of the service yet. I go in on Saturday to try to convince them to kick me out. I mean, I have a JD, but I also was junior enlisted in the Army as Infantry, which was my "self learning" of poo poo. I had a terrible GPA in college (2.8) and only a mediocre (3.3) one in law school. It's a top tier school but at the very bottom of the tier. I bet you could talk about issues in the military as experience that show the 13D's. Think unconventional. Did you have a 1SG who was an rear end in a top hat? How'd you deal with him? Have a shitbag in your squad slowing everyone down? Talk about how you tried to mentor him.
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Yeah, I'm stellar on my current events/government history, it's the other stuff that I know I need to shine on. I have tons and tons of out-of-the-US travel, volunteerism, etc, with lots of stories that are really unique and colorful, but I just can't shake the feeling that I need my masters' in anthropology like I always wanted. And none of my experience comes with vouching from an NGO, most of my traveling is a solo undertaking and I do the soup kitchen/manual labor route to help others and keep myself alive. At this point of being unemployed for a solid year, going back to school isn't on my mind until I know I have a paycheck coming in. I just really want to work overseas. Anyone not make it through the FSO program and hook up with a contractor? What's my best bet as a history major who could work in Iraq or Afghanistan tomorrow with no qualms? I'm interested in demography, sociology, etc.
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