RagnarokAngel posted:

This one isn't inherently bad, not even close to some of them in here. But it does have a few tropes that fit this thread. Namely "The mainstream liberal media doesnt report this!".
Naturally it's fictious and while it's a nice story the worst part is the absolutely creepy marine worship in here. Read that last paragraph seriously.

Trouble Man posted:

Surely the more accurate Marine story is the one where they shoot the supervisor and some of the kids and try and cover it up and get a slap on the wrist?

Toad on a Hat posted:

I would think that the media would WANT to report on a story of 40 Marines charging in and saving kids since that's the feel-good story every newscast needs to round out their day after 20 minutes of death/theft/rape/murder. If that really happened I honestly think it would have been reported.

Tesla Insanely Coil posted:

He's kind of a 'Git-R Dun' kind of Sheriff.

Triple20 posted:

I would like to have the links, if it isn't too much trouble. Nice e-mail.

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LEADERSHIP BRIEFING



ISRAEL'S DEPUTY FM AYALON BRIEFS JEWISH LEADERS ON GAZA FLOTILLA INCIDENT



June 1, 2010

Israel's Deputy Foreign Minister Daniel Ayalon briefed hundreds of Jewish leaders today about the Mediterranean Sea flotilla incident, saying the violence erupted when an "armada" of activists with weapons attacked Israeli military personnel trying to enforce Israel's legal blockade of the Hamas-run Gaza Strip.

"We had to exercise self-defense and stop this armada," he said. Israel Defense Forces commandoes, who were lightly armed, never expected they would encounter a violent mob scene reminiscent of the 'Black Hawk Down' battle in Somalia, where U.S. soldiers were killed.

"It was like Mogadishu, when U.S. soldiers were mobbed, beaten and shot with hand-made weapons."

In Monday's clash, nine civilians were killed, two Israeli soldiers seriously wounded, and others injured. "We very much regret the loss of human life," he said. "This was never our intention."

The deputy foreign minister spoke with more than 765 professionals and lay leaders of Jewish Federations, Jewish Community Relations Councils, and other groups via a teleconference that The Jewish Federations of North America and the Jewish Council for Public Affairs organized to help keep the community informed.

Despite some initial reports that the incident was the result of Israeli commandoes attacking peaceful demonstrators, the clash was really the result of a highly organized "PR provocation campaign," Ayalon said. The Turkish-based group leading the armada was the IHH Humanitarian Relief Foundation, which has ties to global Islamist groups, he said.

Israel requested the flotilla of six ships dock at the Ashkelon port to be inspected, following protocol. Five of the ships peacefully complied, but the sixth refused. Israel, acting to defend its borders, had no other choice but to board that ship, Ayalon added.

The former Israeli Ambassador to the United States thanked the Jewish leaders for their support and urged them to help Israel publicly advocate around this and related issues.

"This is a critical time for Israeli diplomatic efforts," he said. "We have to make sure the effects of yesterday's event will not carry over to a diplomatic front between Israel and her friends."

While the incident is the focus right now, it diverts from the wider issues in the region - Iran's attempts to develop nuclear capabilities, he said, and that Hamas - a terrorist organization dedicated to Israel's destruction - is losing its political following in Gaza and hopes to rally new political support while acquiring cash for weapons.

Referring to these broader issues, he said that in advocating for Israel, "we must keep our eye on the ball."

Ayalon also said Israel would no doubt learn from this incident and adjust its defense tactics should similar attempts occur. He added that once inspected, any humanitarian supplies on the ships would be delivered to Gaza.

For a JFNA resource page on the incident and related issues - including backgrounders, videos, news coverage and more, click here. JFNA will continue to keep the Federation movement informed on the situation as it develops.

Econosaurus posted:

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The BIG question is what can be done to help besides forwarding this email which I hope you will consider doing?



Subject: Holocaust Survivor's View on Fanatic Islam


This is one of the best explanations of the Muslim terrorist situation I have read. His references to past history are accurate and clear. Not long, easy to understand, and well worth the read. The author of this email is Dr. Emanuel Tanay, a well-known and well respected psychiatrist.


A Holocaust Survivor's View on Islam
A man, whose family was German aristocracy prior to World War II, owned a number of large industries and estates. When asked how many German people were true Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our attitude toward fanaticism. 'Very few people were true Nazis,' he said, 'but many enjoyed the return of German pride, and many more were too busy to care. I was one of those who just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, the majority just sat back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it, they owned us, and we had lost control, and the end of the world had come. My family lost everything. I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories.'

We are told again and again by 'experts' and 'talking heads' that Islam is the religion of peace and that the vast majority of Muslims just want to live in peace. Although this unqualified assertion may be true, it is entirely irrelevant. It is meaningless fluff, meant to make us feel better, and meant to somehow diminish the specter of fanatics rampaging across the globe in the name of Islam.

The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history. It is the fanatics who march... It is the fanatics who wage any one of 50 shooting wars worldwide. It is the fanatics who systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout Africa and are gradually taking over the entire continent in an Islamic wave. It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honor-kill. It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque. It is the fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and homosexuals. It is the fanatics who teach their young to kill and to become suicide bombers.

The hard, quantifiable fact is that the peaceful majority, the 'silent majority,' is cowed and extraneous.

Communist Russia was comprised of Russians who just wanted to live in peace, yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of about 20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant. China's huge population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists managed to kill a staggering 70 million people.

The average Japanese individual prior to World War II was not a warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way across South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians; most killed by sword, shovel, and bayonet.

And who can forget Rwanda , which collapsed into butchery. Could it not be said that the majority of Rwandans were 'peace loving'?

History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt, yet for all our powers of reason, we often miss the most basic and uncomplicated of points:

Peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their silence.

Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if they don't speak up, because like my friend from Germany , they will awaken one day and find that the fanatics own them, and the end of their world will have begun.

Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs, Afghans, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and many others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until it was too late. As for us who watch it all unfold, we must pay attention to the only group that counts -- the fanatics who threaten our way of life.

Lastly, anyone who doubts that the issue is serious and just deletes this email without sending it on is contributing to the passiveness that allows the problems to expand. So, extend yourself a bit and send this on and on and on! Let us hope that thousands, world-wide, read this and think about it, and send it on - before it's too late.

Emanuel Tanay, M.D. 2980 Provincial St. Ann Arbor , MI 48104
*Dr. Emanuel Tanay MD <http://www.icle.org/directory/contrib_bios.cfm?&Pnumber=F90113> is a well-known forensic psychiatrist who has been an expert witness in many famous cases. He has served as an officer or committee member on the Michigan Psychiatric Society, the American Academy of Psychiatry and the Law, the American Psychiatric Association (APA), and others. He is a diplomate of the American Board of Psychiatry and Neurology and of the American Board of Forensic Psychiatry and a distinguished fellow of the APA and the American Academy of Forensic Sciences (AAFC).

A Holocaust survivor himself, Dr Tanay coauthored a book about the survivors of the Holocaust and was asked by the German governmen t to consult on just compensation for the Holocaust survivors. Dr. Tanay has served on several journal editorial boards, authored many publications, and presented countless times on forensic medicine. His efforts have also produced many awards and commendations from groups such as the Michigan State Medical Society, APA, the Detroit Institute of Technology, and AAFC, among others.

I hope this letter gets read by millions of people all across the nation!

Alan Shefter

10795 White Aspen Lane

Boca Raton, FL 33428

561.477.1763 FAX 561.477.1581

Cell 561.706.3436

Gnaghi posted:

Forget for a minute that the Nazi party was elected with a majority vote iirc and Stalin was time man of the year, what the hell is this suggesting?

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Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if they don't speak up, because like my friend from Germany , they will awaken one day and find that the fanatics own them, and the end of their world will have begun.

Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs, Afghans, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and many others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until it was too late. As for us who watch it all unfold, we must pay attention to the only group that counts -- the fanatics who threaten our way of life.

Turing sex machine posted:

Yeah, I read the whole thing and I'm still wondering what his point was, or what practical decision he's advocating.

Holocaust Survivor's Email posted:

Lastly, anyone who doubts that the issue is serious and just deletes this email without sending it on is contributing to the passiveness that allows the problems to expand. So, extend yourself a bit and send this on and on and on! Let us hope that thousands, world-wide, read this and think about it, and send it on - before it's too late.

tek79 posted:

Quite literally, THOUSANDS of people have read this world-wide. We're winning!

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Why do you keep reading this poo poo and who are the retards who send it to you? Let's look at it shall we?

"The BIG question is what can be done to help besides forwarding this email which I hope you will consider doing?"
What the hell does this even mean? It's not even close to being a grammatically correct sentence. That should be a clue; it's a sentence written by someone with the brain of a 12 year old.


"The author of this email is Dr. Emanuel Tanay, a well-known and well respected psychiatrist."
I typed his name into google and got this link. Time taken: 1 minute. It's not proof, but I'm not taking any more time than that. You can do that. If he is not the author, then chances are real author isn't a holocaust survivor at all. He's just using the holocaust to justify anti-Muslim propaganda = scumbag.
http://www.slantright.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1575


"His references to past history are accurate and clear."
His references to "past history" (as opposed to future history?) are bullshit. The Nazi party was elected with a majority vote. More people got out and voted then than do in today's polls in America. Nobody was "passive" in the U.S.S.R about Stalin. He had the biggest cult of personality of all time, so much so that the population there genuinely believed he could cure cancer or perform brain surgery. When people would set eyes on him, many would break down in tears and pass out like he was Michael Jackson or something.


"History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt"
Bullshit. The only people who say this poo poo are the ones who never opened a book in their lives and know only the most basic outline the world events. "Oh well, there was this one World War...and then there was a another....so the second was a complete repeat of the first." History is extremely complex, chaotic and unpredictable. If you don't believe me, read about the events that took place in Sarajevo in 1914 which led to World War I. Complete chaos.

I mean, what the hell is this dumb email even suggesting? All Muslims are bad because of a minority of fanatics? The same logic could be applied to any group ever. All Christians are bad because of a minority of fanatics. All Americans as well. Why are you not out stopping people from doing things right now?!? You can't be passive about these things!!!!

Again, stop sending me stupid chain mails. They are all dumb. Why don't you forward my reply to whoever sent this to you, so maybe they will learn to open a goddamn book or do some independent research instead of just swallowing whatever diarrhea spews out of their inbox.

Or maybe I will write my own chain mail advocating suicide as the logical conclusion to a life devoid of meaning. Then anyone stupid enough to believe whatever they are told will just kill themselves off.

Love,
Your son

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This is from a retired CHP Officer and ex military.

Makes you wonder why these guys (Ragheads) are always sitting at the end of the runway on Tuesday when I go to our POP meetings.. etc....

I received this from my ex-homicide partner who is still active in law enforcement circles in the Fresno area.

Excuse the language but don't excuse the facts. Don't give up your guns, and buy necessary ammunition if you can find it. Be cautious and alert. Be ready if, God forbid, we need to protect our families and loved ones.

If You weren't at Rotary Friday. You missed the only decent speaker we've had in more than a year. LTC John Cotter is the 144th Fighter Wing's antiterrorism officer. (Tony, you might remember him as Maj. Cotter who was the PIO the last time we dealt with him).

Anyway, John had a two-part presentation. First part was describing his job as the units antiterrorism officer. Pretty standard stuff.

The second part was information that will curl your hair. A Part-time air guardsman works as a checker at local Von's. Two women in full burkas (or whatever the hell they're called) buy every pre-paid cellphone in the store. Clerk/airman gets to thinking about it. Goes to Cotter and reports incident.

Cotter asks store for surveillance video. It's scary enough that he contacts Fresno FBI.

FBI investigates, determines these women have been doing this all
over the Valley. Cell phones shipped through Canada to Iraq/Afghanistan where they become triggers for roadside bombs.

The Shell station at Peach and Shaw. Every time a local GI goes there in fatigues they are asked specific questions.

What is your unit? When are you deploying? How many aircraft are you taking?

The F-16s out of Fresno fly CAP for west coast. As such they are the first line of defense so they have the US 's most sophisticated air-to-air missiles. Foreign governments would like to get their hands on those missiles or at least learn how to build them. Also how many we have, etc. Two spy groups are working on it, one based at Fashion Fair Mall (the F-16s take-off pattern) and one based at Sierra Vista Mall (the F-16s landing pattern).

Cotter said the ragheads (but we don't profile) are always probing the base. Two dorks in a pickup show up at the front gate wanting to deliver a package marked Air National Guard, Fresno. No postage, no UPS, no FedEx, no DHL, no nothing. Just a probe.

I asked Cotter why we haven't seen anything about this in The Bee, on KMJ, on local TV news. He said they're not interested. (That really pissed me off). Since Friday I've learned of two other things. My brother-in-law Frank, a mucky-muck from Avaya. He had a Muslim tech who took a leave-of-absence for 6 weeks in Afghanistan. After the 6 weeks were up he called from New York requesting an extension. Frank (who does profile) said, **** you, you're fired, and called the Fresno FBI who were very interested. Don't know the outcome.

A Muslim who owns a liquor store in my former hometown of Kingsburg was constantly bugging customers to buy guns for him. Finally one of the guys I grew up with called the FBI.

We are a country at war and these **** ers are in among us. I don't care what Janet Napolitano says, it's a fight to the death and we damned sure better be prepared. Brother-in-law Frank has a theory and I think it may be closer to the truth than Homeland Security wants to admit. There are a certain number (probably a big number) of Muslims among us who are awaiting the trigger date and will begin randomly killing as many of us as they can, sort of a Fort Hood on steroids. I know I'm getting prepared to shoot back.

Two items of interest. Sheriff Margaret Mims wants to grant concealed carry permits to all who are qualified. Columnist Jim Boren, among the most bleeding of the bleeding heart liberals, says it's time for Fresno residents to arm themselves.

crime fighting hog posted:

I know it goes without saying, but Bullshit, none of that ever happened. What I love most is how it's from a guy from a guy who knows a guy who listened to a guy talk about some friends of his who were told by their barber that a raghead bought some cellphones.

RagnarokAngel posted:

The F-16s out of Fresno fly CAP for west coast.

chesh posted:

Unless there's some military CAP that I don't know about, CAP stands for Civil Air Patrol. It's an entirely volunteer, civilian run organization, and in all my years of participating in CAP I never once got to fly an F16.

So either this e-mail is a lie or I am going to be freakin' pissed at my CO.

Nenonen posted:

It would sure make sense to buy prepaid cellphones in California and send them to Afghanistan for IED's!

Nenonen posted:

Do people forwarding this kind of bile not consider the meaning of any of it for one moment, or do they forward it regardless of how stupid it is?

AKA Pseudonym posted:

I don't really even see what the point is besides "There are some people who sympathize with Islamic terrorists in the US and the FBI seems to be on top of it. P.S. Foreign intelligence services are interested in our weapon systems."

ManoliIsFat posted:

Ya these people don't travel much do you know how many cellphones there are in the world? Not hard to pick up a few locally anywhere in the world.

Mornacale posted:

The point is to make sure that you've got your guns, so when the A-rab uprising begins you can shoot those fuckin' ragheads.

crime fighting hog posted:

I imagine most people who believe these emails outright also think electricity is magic.

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Cellphones would make poo poo remote triggers for IEDs anyway - too expensive, too easy to track, too unreliable. You can make a perfectly reliable line-of-sight radio trigger (and normally they'll only need line-of-sight because there'll be some bloke up a mountain somewhere waiting to trigger it when a target goes by) for a tenth the price of even the cheapest mobile phone, with the advantage that it's not sitting there constantly transmitting an easily-detectable signal.

the yellow dart posted:

I assume the article refers to a Combat Air Patrol (this is what is being referred to when in movies they talk about flying a cap in an area).