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Galaga Galaxian posted:I'm a instant gratification consumer and I don't care. No Pics, no Purchase. You are going to find your historical purchasing severely limited unfortunately.
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It's a risk sometimes, especially if you're new, but it's not a very expensive risk. I mean, I ordered some 10mm colonial militia from Old Glory. No pics. I didn't realize they were 5-in-a-row-on-one-piece, which doesn't really work for me. But it didn't cost THAT much and I've figured out a way to use them anyhow.
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Jun 7, 2010 10:57
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That's veery true it's not like taking a risk on a GW mini that costs a tenner. Also many companies will send you samples for the cost of postage. It always worth an email or ring them to ask. You won't be speaking to some customer services goblin but usually the owner/sculptor. Also check TMP or Yahoo groups. The yahoo 15mm modern group I use has pics of most of the manufacturers ranges.
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Jun 7, 2010 11:07
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Serotonin posted:Its a hard one to judge, the real value of painted minis. People will pay what they think they are worth I guess, as you have witnessed on eBay. A lot of people hate painting too. The CWC rulebook writer mentions this at the back, that he does but feels it's a necessary evil. If you can't stand painting (or simply don't have the skills whether due to lack of effort/practice/genuine problems stopping you) then why not pay more?
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Jun 7, 2010 17:54
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Serotonin posted:But to add a devils advocate view (which Ive picked up from reading responses from mini makers on TMP) just coz this is SA and we like arguing. I get what you are saying, but really: Find a teenage nephew, neighbour, a friend's kid or something. Give them fifty quid and a weekend to take the photos and upload them. Watch your sales figure rise as people who don't attend shows in the UK or have seen other players field your armies can actually see the quality of your stuff. It's not so hard. And honestly, very few of the companies we are talking about have nearly the inventory of Pendraken. My personal method of circumvening the ineptitude of historical companies is to just google the stuff, and usually some person will have pictures of painted miniatures on a blog or a forum or something. Madaxeman.com is great for this for 15mm. I'm just saying that I should not have to do that extra effort for a purchase. You don't see any other business where artistic merit is such a vital part go "oh, you want to see pictures of what we sell? Why don't you just order a pair of t-shirts/paintings/furniture from us and see for yourself if they are any good! Trust us!" But yeah, as for painting, I've never seen "The Hobby(TM)" being as important among historical gamers. That is more of a GW thing, but a GW thing I like. Everyone can learn to paint decently, even if you have old eyes, if you just apply yourself to it. Too many historical players just won't give it a fair shot. So they'll just buy painted armies or order paint jobs from India. EDIT; first time I see Gu Zhan for sale outside China. 1/48th scale multipart plastic Three Kingdom generals. I have heard very little about them but the poses are pretty drat impressive for 4 euro each. The infantry looks pretty unimpressive though. http://www.decorsminiatures.fr/category.php?id_category=59 lilljonas fucked around with this message at 20:47 on Jun 7, 2010 |
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Jun 7, 2010 18:40
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 My first dragoons fully painted and assembled. Reasonably pelased with these for many reasons. First 28mm Napoleonics Ive painted, first horses Ive painted in about 10 years (and I could never do a good job on them in the past), and the two riders took about 3 hours in total to do which is fast as gently caress for me- its a fairly rushed paint job but perfectly acceptable for a tabletop standard in my opinion.
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Jun 7, 2010 21:54
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Those look great! If the weather holds up, I may prime some of my 10mm AWI dudes and give it a shot, although I really should be painting my FoW Sovs.
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Jun 7, 2010 22:05
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Serotonin posted:
Very nice! And those horses are really nothing to be ashamed of. What system are you planning to use? I primed some 200 ashigaru today, and tomorrow I'm free from work. I'll see how far I can get in just one day of painting, should be fun.
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Jun 7, 2010 22:09
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lilljonas posted:What system are you planning to use? Dual use- Black Powder and Sharp Practice. Ive got another box of those buggers to do yet, and a box of Hussars, then 3 boxes of line infantry and 2 cannons. Im going to be busy for a while.
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Jun 8, 2010 07:26
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Trafalgar question! The book lists 2nd rates as 'up to 98 guns'. Is there any reason I couldn't run a 98-gun ship as a 1st rate? Rounding it makes it 100 anyway. It's not a big deal, but I ordered a 98-gun ship thinking it would work as a first rate before I re-read that section. I'm sure I'll be ordering a first rate anyway (probably the Victory), and these are just intro/learning games. It just seems like an odd classification.
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Jun 9, 2010 15:38
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Got home today to find a package full of tiny soldiers.  More specifically, a Welsh army and an Ottoman army for DBA, plus a few extra odds and ends. Oh well, I wasn't planning to go outside this summer anyway.
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Jun 9, 2010 16:30
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Lord Commissar posted:Trafalgar question! Honestly, I can barely see the difference of a 3rd rate and a 1st rate if I don't look really close. I was careful to paint all my ships differently and put various signal flags on them to have a chance to keep them apart while playing. Just run it as whatever you like. R.S Gumby: cool, what scale/manufacturer?
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Jun 9, 2010 16:46
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lilljonas posted:R.S Gumby: cool, what scale/manufacturer? Essex, 15mm. I think I'm gonna have a go at building a tiny Hagia Sophia as a camp for the Ottomans. The welsh will probably have to settle for the generic medieval castle I already have.
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Jun 9, 2010 16:58
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R.S. Gumby posted:Essex, 15mm. The Welsh should have a knock-off Hagia Sophia. Built out of peat.
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Jun 9, 2010 17:08
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lilljonas posted:The Welsh should have a knock-off Hagia Sophia. Built out of peat.
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Jun 9, 2010 17:22
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The fleets arrive today! I'll try and take some pictures, but I'm leaving this evening to go camping (my other nerd hobby). I wish I could bring them with me, but I don't think they had resin in the late 18th century, or superglue.
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Jun 11, 2010 12:51
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If you're really into alternate dinosaur WWII, you should probably check this out. I hadn't realize this was becoming an established genre.
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Jun 11, 2010 23:53
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Picked up the FoW Art of War 2 today, and for some reason want to paint up my grenadiers with all sorts of tiny insignia. I wonder if PV stocks 10/0 brushes 
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moths posted:If you're really into alternate dinosaur WWII, you should probably check this out. alternative WW2 is huge right now, especially ww2 with mecha and/or zombies like Gear Krieg and the recently anounced Dust Tactics, Tännhauser, and many others. Adding dinosaurs is the next logical step. lilljonas fucked around with this message at 08:01 on Jun 12, 2010 |
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Jun 12, 2010 07:55
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I wonder how hard it would be to implement "walking" into the vehicle movement of FoW... Hmmm...
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Jun 12, 2010 08:23
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It's just infantry but with armour. Not *too* hard to weld together really.
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Jun 12, 2010 16:51
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Empress Miniatures have released a pretty cool 28mm modern combat range including SAS guys who look like Captain Price and Gaz from CoD:Modern Warfare, an EOD team so you can play Hurt Locker and some really nice Taliban models.
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Jun 12, 2010 20:01
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Danger - Octopus! posted:Empress Miniatures have released a pretty cool 28mm modern combat range including SAS guys who look like Captain Price and Gaz from CoD:Modern Warfare, an EOD team so you can play Hurt Locker and some really nice Taliban models. This isnt good. Im wanting to do Ambush Alley in 28mm now.
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Jun 13, 2010 08:07
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These ships are tiny!
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Jun 13, 2010 23:12
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Lord Commissar posted:These ships are tiny! If you think those are tiny, my store is the distributor for the 1:2400 ships shown in the Trafalgar rulebook  Now those are tiny.
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Jun 13, 2010 23:20
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Devlan Mud posted:If you think those are tiny, my store is the distributor for the 1:2400 ships shown in the Trafalgar rulebook One might even say half-tiny!
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Jun 14, 2010 00:34
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I got the opposite surprise as my 1:144 WWI planes arrived now. The German bomber is HUGE!
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Is that the Gotha?
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I've seen a few different guides around the net for these ships, and they all have different ideas. Should I do the rigging as I do the masts? Or put the masts on and then start rigging?
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Jun 15, 2010 00:16
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Lord Commissar posted:I've seen a few different guides around the net for these ships, and they all have different ideas. I think most seem to say rigging after masts are on. But IM no epxert.
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Jun 15, 2010 07:46
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Lord Commissar posted:I've seen a few different guides around the net for these ships, and they all have different ideas. I put on the masts first, and then do the rigging. Keep in mind that you don't want to put the masts exactly straight up. Once you do the rigging, the tension will bend them slightly back from the direction you do the rigging from. You can see an example of this in the Trafalgar book, where thet mizzenmast is bent slightly backwards.
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Jun 15, 2010 08:25
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If anybody wants entire fleets of 1/2400 scale ships, here's a good deal: http://www.scalecreep.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=1876_1980
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A tutorial on painting your 54mm miniatures (to look like poo poo) http://www.allthekingsmentoysoldiers.com/Painting54s.html 
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Lord Commissar, you mentioned you were doing 10mm Black Powder. I'm considering starting the same (Napoleonics, naturally) but I'm having a hard time figuring out a good basing scheme that will neither look too sparse or bleed me dry. What are you using?
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Guildenstern posted:Lord Commissar, you mentioned you were doing 10mm Black Powder. I'm considering starting the same (Napoleonics, naturally) but I'm having a hard time figuring out a good basing scheme that will neither look too sparse or bleed me dry. What are you using? I bought custom econobases from GF9 at 16x16mm. I put four dudes to a base, and it works out to be the roughly the equivalent of 28mm, except using cm wherever the book says in. However, I think if I did it again, I'd like go 16x32 or 16x24 and put 8 or 6 guys on a base, because at this scale, having all those little bases can make movement unruly.
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Someone please stop me from buying a hundred GHQ models I'll never paint before it's too late 
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Jun 17, 2010 22:10
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I want to prime these ships, but I need a good way to keep the parts identifiable afterwards. Otherwise, I'm going to mix up which are which.Guildenstern posted:Someone please stop me from buying a hundred GHQ models I'll never paint before it's too late No.
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Guildenstern posted:Someone please stop me from buying a hundred GHQ models I'll never paint before it's too late I've got a ton that are unpainted, and I'm not even sure if any of my friends want to play it with me so no, I'm not going to help stop you.
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Lord Commissar posted:Word of warning: a friend at the club did what you did, and painted the bases first and then attached the ships. turns out that there's a risk for the ship to slightly soar above the waves, as the flat ship doesn't make a perfect connection to the wavy bases. So be careful about that. In other news I'm making the biggest DBA camp ever right now. I'll take pictures when my girlfriend goes to work so she won't make fun of my nerdy hobby. 
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