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Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

Sponge! posted:

Weeeeeelllll.... No, but they're a close second behind Mac users... :m10:

They the same loving people. Have you ever seen a Mini that hasn't had a Mac sticker on it?

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Dave Inc.
Nov 26, 2007
Let's have a drink!
Article that goes into some depth about the Mini - Porsche challenge. Of particular note is this:

quote:

So why would Porsche hesitate? Well, a bunch of reasons. First, Mini laid out the course, which doesn’t cover all of Road Atlanta but is an autocross track with lots of tight turns and few straightaways to pick up speed.

“We stacked the deck a little,” Davis said.

"Porsche, come race us at Road Atlanta...'s parking lot..."

http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2010/jun/12/minisbrifs/

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe
I do not see a single Mini in the field at Le Mans today.

fishmech_1.1_RC
Jul 22, 2003

Dave Inc. posted:

Article that goes into some depth about the Mini - Porsche challenge. Of particular note is this:


"Porsche, come race us at Road Atlanta...'s parking lot..."

http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2010/jun/12/minisbrifs/

Porsche should have accepted and brought a '73 2.7RS :haw:

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

Contraband posted:

Porsche should have accepted and brought a '73 2.7RS :haw:

Are older smaller cars really that much more nimble? At the autocrosses I've been to, modern 911s and Corvettes have no problems beating the times set by small cars, including Minis.

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

kimbo305 posted:

Are older smaller cars really that much more nimble? At the autocrosses I've been to, modern 911s and Corvettes have no problems beating the times set by small cars, including Minis.

An Autocross isnt really THAT much tighter that a smaller older car will have an advantage.

destructo
Apr 29, 2006
CARS AN' FREEDON

Pretty Cool Name
Jan 8, 2010

wat

Driftuuu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5aWAW2hea4

:sweden:

Blocko
Jul 12, 2008

Spoiler alert: Blood Ravens are actually Hiigarans who got sucked into the warp, were sent back in time to fight in WWII against the Panzer Elite, then stole a nazi time machine to go into the future and save mankind from an army of Lobster-Elephants and other impossible creatures.

Rated R.
Continuing the Mini vs. Porsche saga, Mini challenges Porsche...again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrFCWq8vm_4

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
Wanna get those Justin Bieber tickets

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INCHI DICKARI
Aug 23, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4HCOCegOBY&NR=1&feature=fvwp

I've just been playing this in the background rather than music tonight.

Sushi The Kid
Sep 10, 2005
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIALKZUnAc4

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(


Show queens with on-purpose surge to sound cool. :colbert:

Counterpoint:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVG2YVqCydg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSXKCG53zaA

Toucan Sam
Sep 2, 2000

Blocko posted:

Continuing the Mini vs. Porsche saga, Mini challenges Porsche...again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrFCWq8vm_4

Hyundai challenged Mini.

http://jalopnik.com/5567323/hyundai-shoves-porsche-aside-challenges-mini-to-race

They can't really turn it down after all the poo poo they gave Porsche. Mini is about to get their asses handed to them by Hyundai, rhymes with Sunday.

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

Toucan Sam posted:

Hyundai challenged Mini.

http://jalopnik.com/5567323/hyundai-shoves-porsche-aside-challenges-mini-to-race

They can't really turn it down after all the poo poo they gave Porsche. Mini is about to get their asses handed to them by Hyundai, rhymes with Sunday.

That was a really, really brilliant move.

I'd love to see Mini get destroyed at their own game.

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

Toucan Sam posted:

Hyundai challenged Mini.

http://jalopnik.com/5567323/hyundai-shoves-porsche-aside-challenges-mini-to-race

They can't really turn it down after all the poo poo they gave Porsche. Mini is about to get their asses handed to them by Hyundai, rhymes with Sunday.

It's only a matter of time before even a lowly Toyota Yaris ad will have to flash up its Nurgburgring lap time in this ongoing war of bench racing.

Toucan Sam
Sep 2, 2000

Hypnolobster posted:

That was a really, really brilliant move.

I'd love to see Mini get destroyed at their own game.

If they would have let it go after Porsche bowed out it wouldn't have been a big deal. Now they have to accept Hyundai and there isn't much of a chance of Mini beating Hyundai. Sounds weird to call Hyundai a serious sports car.

The Prong Song
Sep 7, 2002


WHITE
DRIVES
MATTER

Toucan Sam posted:

Hyundai challenged Mini.

http://jalopnik.com/5567323/hyundai-shoves-porsche-aside-challenges-mini-to-race

They can't really turn it down after all the poo poo they gave Porsche. Mini is about to get their asses handed to them by Hyundai, rhymes with Sunday.

Errr, uhhhh, unless you're making a joke I don't get Hyundai is pronounced Hi-youn-die http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=4313664

The Prong Song fucked around with this message at 03:27 on Jun 19, 2010

Toucan Sam
Sep 2, 2000

Sigma X posted:

Errr, uhhhh, unless you're making a joke I don't get Hyundai is pronounced Hi-youn-die http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=4313664

So you didn't watch the video where they explained Hyundai and Sunday rhyme? The name's Hyundai - like Sunday. Seriously, did you not watch the video i linked to? Like the whole reason i posted my reply to this thread? Really, you didn't watch them compare Hyundai and Sunday?

Toucan Sam fucked around with this message at 03:34 on Jun 19, 2010

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

Sigma X posted:

Errr, uhhhh, unless you're making a joke I don't get Hyundai is pronounced Hi-youn-die http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=4313664

He pretty clearly says Heeun-day. It's not unreasonable to ask American English speakers to approximate it like Sunday (which is how Hyundai America markets).

angryhampster
Oct 21, 2005

kimbo305 posted:

He pretty clearly says Heeun-day. It's not unreasonable to ask American English speakers to approximate it like Sunday (which is how Hyundai America markets).

In one of the first commercials Jeff Bridges did for Hyundai, he specifically said "Hyundai, like Sunday."

real_scud
Sep 5, 2002

One of these days these elbows are gonna walk all over you

Hypnolobster posted:

That was a really, really brilliant move.

I'd love to see Mini get destroyed at their own game.
They might still win if their 'course' is really a small Auto-X layout

DogDodger
Nov 19, 2006

Hellcat likes it rough.
Autocrossing wasn't what Hyundai proposed. :)

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

DogDodger posted:

Autocrossing wasn't what Hyundai proposed. :)

even if it was, it's not a foregone conclusion that a Mini could take it. Maybe they'll bargain for the 2.0T though.

frozenphil
Mar 13, 2003

YOU CANNOT MAKE A MISTAKE SO BIG THAT 80 GRIT CAN'T FIX IT!
:smug:

Hypnolobster posted:

Show queens with on-purpose surge to sound cool. :colbert:

It's actually blower surge. This is caused by the supercharger's vacuum signal to the power valve not being the actual engine vacuum, but the vacuum created by the supercharger. The power valve reads the higher vacuum created by the supercharger, this vacuum closes the power valve, causing the fuel mixture to go lean, the engine then slows down due to the lean air/fuel mixture, so the vacuum signal from the supercharger causes the power valve to open as the supercharger's vacuum drops, so again the engine speeds up due to the richer air/fuel mixture, rolling from rich to lean, causing the engine to speed up and then slow down.

Basically, they don't know how to setup a boost reference/tune a carb. The cam has nothing to do with it.

Ak Gara
Jul 29, 2005

That's just the way he rolls.
Mini S Works: 211hp, 1235KG, 5.85 Power to weight.

Hyundai Genesis-Coupe I4: 210hp, 1494KG, 7.11 Power to weight.

Hyundai Genesis-Coupe V6: 306hp, 1537 KG, 5.02 Power to weight.

You know what, that would be an intresting race.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGnTooQrh6s

God I want an ecodiesel now so I can straight pipe it and make it sound like that

TheGoatTrick
Aug 1, 2002

Semi-aquatic personification of unstoppable douchery
But wait, there's more!



Mini is inviting up to 400 owners to come. They can run on the course for free prior to the main event. http://www.motoringfile.com/2010/06/17/mini-invites-you-to-road-atlanta-to-see-mini-vs-porsche/

Here is the proposed course:

fishmech_1.1_RC
Jul 22, 2003

Wanna see Walter Rohrl drive the Porsche.

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad
Wow, that really is tiny. Here it is scaled to include all of Road Atlanta:

Now would be a good time for Porsche just to snipe on that.

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.

Ak Gara posted:

Mini S Works: 211hp, 1235KG, 5.85 Power to weight.

Hyundai Genesis-Coupe I4: 210hp, 1494KG, 7.11 Power to weight.

Hyundai Genesis-Coupe V6: 306hp, 1537 KG, 5.02 Power to weight.

You know what, that would be an intresting race.

You've got Weight to Power there. That puts the Genesis V6 in the lead and the Genesis I4 at the back.

T-Square
May 14, 2009

Mmmm M1 Procar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcdIhrYvDx4

angryhampster
Oct 21, 2005

hedge posted:


Here is the proposed course:





That's nuts. That is such a tight and tiny course..I can't even imagine trying to run that in a heavy car.

DogDodger
Nov 19, 2006

Hellcat likes it rough.

kimbo305 posted:

Wow, that really is tiny. Here it is scaled to include all of Road Atlanta:

Now would be a good time for Porsche just to snipe on that.

Lame. I guess for the record they do say "at Road Atlanta," and not "on Road Atlanta."

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

DogDodger posted:

Lame. I guess for the record they do say "at Road Atlanta," and not "on Road Atlanta."

Jesus, I just noticed the chicane in the upper left is about as long as the 'main straight' of their course. The advantage a Mini has is utterly maximized, but I bet a Porsche could still get the job done.

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher
Needs less Mini dickwave and more rally

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9z6koiuZao

TheGoatTrick
Aug 1, 2002

Semi-aquatic personification of unstoppable douchery

kimbo305 posted:

Jesus, I just noticed the chicane in the upper left is about as long as the 'main straight' of their course. The advantage a Mini has is utterly maximized, but I bet a Porsche could still get the job done.
Interview with the Mini driver. He says 'fun' a lot.

Interview with the Porsche driver.

The Porsche won by 2 seconds.

SanitysEdge
Jul 28, 2005

hedge posted:

The Porsche won by 2 seconds.

Thats $38,000 per second!

http://www.facebook.com/MINIUSA!/MINIUSA?v=app_122731241101196

Blocko
Jul 12, 2008

Spoiler alert: Blood Ravens are actually Hiigarans who got sucked into the warp, were sent back in time to fight in WWII against the Panzer Elite, then stole a nazi time machine to go into the future and save mankind from an army of Lobster-Elephants and other impossible creatures.

Rated R.

SanitysEdge posted:

Thats $38,000 per second!

http://www.facebook.com/MINIUSA!/MINIUSA?v=app_122731241101196

That whole facebook page reads like one giant PR script.

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CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher
gently caress the challenge, here's a rally car build

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhFZW-QcJ6s

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