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iastudent posted:I'm honestly trying to pick my brain at what Discovery had before Mythbusters. For better or worse it was that show that got me to pay attention to the network as a whole. In the 90s the Discovery Channel was pretty much 3 seperate entities: early morning was early childhood programming about stuff like phonics and science, daytime was home-improvement shows (it was pretty much the Bob Vila Channel for 5 hours a day), then in the afternoon they did actual documentaries.
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iastudent posted:I'm honestly trying to pick my brain at what Discovery had before Mythbusters. For better or worse it was that show that got me to pay attention to the network as a whole. Junkyard Wars?
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Jun 14, 2010 21:08
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IRQ posted:Junkyard Wars? Really, the modern Discovery really looks like the late 90's TLC.
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Jun 14, 2010 21:15
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Wasn't Beyond 2000 on Discovery? I remember watching the poo poo out of the back in the day.
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Jun 14, 2010 21:19
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Teek posted:Wasn't Beyond 2000 on Discovery? I remember watching the poo poo out of the back in the day. The biggest thing I remember from my youth was live coverage of Voyager 2's contact with Neptune, something I'm fairly damned sure isn't going to happen when New Horizons passes Pluto in five years.
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Jun 14, 2010 23:32
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iastudent posted:I'm honestly trying to pick my brain at what Discovery had before Mythbusters. For better or worse it was that show that got me to pay attention to the network as a whole. You're blocking out the dark days of Discovery when it was all car building shows all the time. Except during the day when it was Gay Man Shows You How to do Home Design.
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Jun 15, 2010 00:28
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muscles like this? posted:You're blocking out the dark days of Discovery when it was all car building shows all the time. Except during the day when it was Gay Man Shows You How to do Home Design. Oh hell, that's right. I used to watch Monster Garage and Monster House when those were on. Still didn't give a poo poo about the rest of the lineup until after the turn of the millennium, though.
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Jun 15, 2010 00:33
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drat, I walked away from the TV for a short time and missed it. What was the deal with the call Jake made to his sister? Edit: Ah. His mother just called the wheelhouse and Sig answered. Apparently Jake's father is missing. This poor kid gets no luck with family members. Guy Compton fucked around with this message at 02:52 on Jun 16, 2010 |
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Jun 16, 2010 02:46
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Now Sig is going to fire him on top of it just to toughen him up.
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Jun 16, 2010 02:54
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Good grief this is the darkest episode
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Jun 16, 2010 03:00
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Jesus shitfucking christ poor Phil. 
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Jun 16, 2010 03:03
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Guy Compton posted:drat, I walked away from the TV for a short time and missed it. What was the deal with the call Jake made to his sister? Yeah Jake knew he was missing, but didn't know his truck had been found (only Sig knows that). Poor Jake  . I'm guessing his father couldn't take his daughter dying and went to kill himself.Also poor Phil/Jacob . He's an addict. Jeez.
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Jun 16, 2010 03:16
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IRQ posted:Jesus shitfucking christ poor Phil. Ho-lee gently caress. I hate to think like this, but two things spring to mind: 1- Did Discovery have an inkling of this beforehand and edited accordingly, or was Josh just hiding it really, really well, and, this is the worst of it: 2- Phil had his stroke during an offload of Opies, no? The question occurs as to the timeline of all this now. edit- I was checking the Discovery message boards just now, and found this (VERY spoiler heavy) http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2010/06/deadliest-catch-thom-beers-talks-phil-harris-confrontation-with-son-nba-threat.html The next episode will deal with the stroke. They asked Thom Beers, the producer, if the confrontation contributed to the stroke, and he says it was A factor, but not THE factor. Kwik fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Jun 16, 2010 |
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Jun 16, 2010 03:18
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McSpanky posted:The biggest thing I remember from my youth was live coverage of Voyager 2's contact with Neptune, something I'm fairly damned sure isn't going to happen when New Horizons passes Pluto in five years.
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Kwik posted:Ho-lee gently caress. It was Jake, not Josh. Made more ironic by the fact that earlier in the episode Phil was praising him for being the son who showed some initiative, right? I could be mixing that part up. I've always figured there was a lot of meth/etc use on these boats, but it's just heartbreaking to see Phil get poo poo on like this when we all know he's about to die. I mean, yeah earlier in the episode he talked about doing every drug known to man contributing to his imminent death and so forth, but wow. Was he like Jake at that age? Good bet that he was; when you get down to it these guys are pretty trashy. But still it's not really that so much as Phil's disowning his son right before he dies that totally kills me.
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Jun 16, 2010 05:47
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Phil clearly had his days but as was said, he was a captain at Jake's age. Phil clearly had something to him that drove him to become a success in the industry. I agree, I'm sure there's quite a bit of amphetamine usage on those boats just because of the insane hours those guys carry.
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Just caught the rerun of this (blame 2 hours of Hell's Kitchen for me not catching the first showing). I don't think anything on TV's made me more  in a long time than this episode.EDIT: Good to see Keith and John are reconciled on After the Catch, but everyone's drinking Coors Light and there's a pitcher with the logo present in nearly every camera shot. Wow, big surprise. 
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Jun 16, 2010 06:01
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What about Jake's dad disappearing? That kid's got the most screwed up experiences on this boat
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iastudent posted:Just caught the rerun of this (blame 2 hours of Hell's Kitchen for me not catching the first showing). I don't think anything on TV's made me more Somebody's gotta fund that poo poo.
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Strange Matter posted:What about Jake's dad disappearing? That kid's got the most screwed up experiences on this boat I cracked a smile when Sig said he'd keep Jake busy for a few days. I only caught the last half of the show, but it seemed poorly paced to throw two of its biggest moments into less than thirty minutes of show.
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Jun 16, 2010 06:41
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Kwik posted:Ho-lee gently caress. I don't think Discovery knew about the drug problem before Phil caught Jake. I'm guessing Jake managed to cover up the drug use pretty well for most of the trip (Phil didn't notice missing pills, so Jake can't have used too much), since being stoned on painkillers makes someone act differently than just being dead tired. Those guys are also around each other enough that heavy drug use probably would have stood out to someone, especially the loss of coordination and poor judgment that go with heavy narcotic use. I'm guessing that when the episode was taped, Jake had started taking more of the drugs, since he hadn't seemed visibly stoned during earlier episodes. Plus, having someone abusing narcotics in a job that's normally dangerous is incredibly unsafe for everyone on board, so there's no way the Discovery crew would have kept quiet if they thought Jake was that stoned before.
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azflyboy posted:I don't think Discovery knew about the drug problem before Phil caught Jake. I've had a decent amount of experience working with people who are habitually stoned as gently caress on painkillers, and I didn't notice it until Jake came upstairs to talk to Phil, then it was incredibly obvious. I don't know if they edited it cleverly, but if you hear an addict talking when he isn't high, it's really really obvious. Sucks for Phil though, I hope Jake is in treatment Opiates are awful but hey, bright side is that he's not on meth/heroin as far as we know.Edit: I haven't been watching every episode, so I dunno. Edit2: \/\/ Word. BigHead fucked around with this message at 08:14 on Jun 16, 2010 |
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BigHead posted:I've had a decent amount of experience working with people who are habitually stoned as gently caress on painkillers, and I didn't notice it until Jake came upstairs to talk to Phil, then it was incredibly obvious. I don't know if they edited it cleverly, but if you hear an addict talking when he isn't high, it's really really obvious. poo poo I figured he WAS on meth/heroin/somethinglikethat and that the only fix he could find out at sea was Phil's pills.
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Jun 16, 2010 07:07
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Doesnt surprise me in the slightest that Jake is an addict. I've always just assumed he was.
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Watching Phil literally cry about his kid being a junkie was just heart wrenching. I've been apprehensive all season long about the impending stroke. I can't imagine what his kid was going through afterwords.
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Jun 16, 2010 17:37
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I don't think I've ever wanted to see violence happen more than when Jake started blubbering about being an addict while the old man was trying not to loving die right then and there.
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McSpanky posted:I don't think I've ever wanted to see violence happen more than when Jake started blubbering about being an addict while the old man was trying not to loving die right then and there. Wasn't he the same kid a few seasons back that bought a big rear end flatscreen TV with dad's credit card?
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Farking Bastage posted:Wasn't he the same kid a few seasons back that bought a big rear end flatscreen TV with dad's credit card? Yes he did.
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Minto Took posted:Yes he did. loving little bastard. R.I.P Phil, at least you have(had) Josh. You never had faith in him to be the captain, but hes the son you can (could have) depend(ed) on. edit; Jesus christ man, watching the episode now on lunch again, this whole season they have been showing Phil's feet shake in his little foot rest. I really don't like the foreshadowing. All Pig Be Slay fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Jun 16, 2010 |
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Jun 16, 2010 18:09
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Yea, those last 5 minutes on Deadliest Catch was easily the best television Discovery has ever put out. I'm glad they followed it up with After the Catch, because I needed a pick-up. And it's back to being great because Mike Rowe was back and it was just a bunch of guys sitting around talking over a couple beers. Which is what it should be.
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Farking Bastage posted:Watching Phil literally cry about his kid being a junkie was just heart wrenching. I've been apprehensive all season long about the impending stroke. I can't imagine what his kid was going through afterwords. Have you seen next week's episode or something? The last thing I got was Jake telling him he was an addict and it ended right there.
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Jun 16, 2010 19:21
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I watched last night and saw Phil having problems, both me and my wife said "oh poo poo here it comes" thankfully it didn't happen. I'm not looking forward to seeing that episode.
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Jun 16, 2010 19:36
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I actually kind of felt bad for Josh, Phil was like, you show initiative, you come up to the wheelhouse, but Jake needs to do it because you aren't going to be captain
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Jun 16, 2010 19:59
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MrDingleDangle posted:I actually kind of felt bad for Josh, Phil was like, you show initiative, you come up to the wheelhouse, but Jake needs to do it because you aren't going to be captain Yeah that sucked. That whole conversation was edited very oddly and repetitively. He kept lauding Josh and lambasting Jake and then right at the end is like "Jake's gonna be captain." Either it's weird editing, Phil just confused his kids names (likely), or Phil is just fickle.
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BonoMan posted:Yeah that sucked. That whole conversation was edited very oddly and repetitively. He kept lauding Josh and lambasting Jake and then right at the end is like "Jake's gonna be captain." Either it's weird editing, Phil just confused his kids names (likely), or Phil is just fickle. I think what he meant was. Jake is most like him. So he knows for a fact that Jake is capable of being a captain, but he shows no initiative. He's saying if Jake would just show interest, and learn what he needed to, he knows for a fact Jake could be Captain in no time, because he was almost the exact same way. The only thing holding Jake back would be him actually DOING what needs to be done, while with Josh, he feels Josh needs a lot more work, even though he seems more interested.
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ToastyPotato posted:I think what he meant was. Jake is most like him. So he knows for a fact that Jake is capable of being a captain, but he shows no initiative. He's saying if Jake would just show interest, and learn what he needed to, he knows for a fact Jake could be Captain in no time, because he was almost the exact same way. The only thing holding Jake back would be him actually DOING what needs to be done, while with Josh, he feels Josh needs a lot more work, even though he seems more interested. I dont get why he thinks Josh isn't ready. Josh is the guy who covers for his dad when he needs to sleep and not be in the wheel house. Josh is the man, Jake is the failure.
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BonoMan posted:Have you seen next week's episode or something? The last thing I got was Jake telling him he was an addict and it ended right there. Where he had his head in the crook of his arm telling Jake that he never wanted to see him again was what I was referring to. Otherwise it was speculation as to how much of a shithead Jake had to feel like after his dad dies.
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Farking Bastage posted:Where he had his head in the crook of his arm telling Jake that he never wanted to see him again was what I was referring to. Otherwise it was speculation as to how much of a shithead Jake had to feel like after his dad dies. He was straight back to being a worthless piece of poo poo pretty quickly. http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20345801,00.html
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All Pig Be Slay posted:I dont get why he thinks Josh isn't ready. Josh is the guy who covers for his dad when he needs to sleep and not be in the wheel house. Maybe its a personality thing. Maybe, outside of what the cameras see, he knows them well enough to know that Jake has the right mentality to be a good captain in a much shorter amount of time then Josh does.
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