Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Locked thread
The Anime Liker
Aug 8, 2009

by VideoGames

Neo_Reloaded posted:

Maybe they can give it the Predator remastering treatment!

Fox is seriously the worst company.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Neo_Reloaded
Feb 27, 2004
Something from Nothing

Tony Danza Claus posted:

Fox is seriously the worst company.

I don't get this Predator disc as they had been doing so well ever since Patton and the resulting backlash. Paramount and Universal are riding so high atop the hate wave when it comes to lovely catalog titles that people had almost finally gotten over their fixation on WB and had completely forgotten about being wary with Fox titles. And now Fox has to go and open old wounds again with this loving waxjob.

I'm not sure which I'm more offended by - Spartacus where Universal was ever so careful to put a layer of fake grain over everything so poo poo still looked slightly textured, or this new Predator where they didn't even give half a gently caress and left some of the smeariest, smoothest, most unnatural looking DNR ever.

Neo_Reloaded fucked around with this message at 04:21 on Jun 16, 2010

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

Criminal Minded posted:

gently caress, do you know how long those prices will last? I start making money on Thursday and I've been waiting for a reasonable price on There Will Be Blood ever since I started buying.

Blood has been hovering around $16 for at least a few weeks, so you're safe. However, it's listed as OOP on DVDTalk's out of print page. Then again, so is Zodiac, yet it's still for sale everywhere. Probably just Paramount's goofy rotation system with titles going OOP just for a new cover.

Deep Discount's sale ends on the 20th, though.

Neo_Reloaded
Feb 27, 2004
Something from Nothing

Egbert Souse posted:

Blood has been hovering around $16 for at least a few weeks, so you're safe. However, it's listed as OOP on DVDTalk's out of print page. Then again, so is Zodiac, yet it's still for sale everywhere. Probably just Paramount's goofy rotation system with titles going OOP just for a new cover.

Deep Discount's sale ends on the 20th, though.

Paramount has so many SKUs for various movie-cash and gold slipcover and combopack promotions that it's tough to really tell what's going on. I doubt that all SKUs of There Will Be Blood are out of print, and if they somehow are it's because another new one is coming soon. I don't think there's any danger of this going out of print for real.

The Anime Liker
Aug 8, 2009

by VideoGames

Neo_Reloaded posted:

I don't get this Predator disc as they had been doing so well ever since Patton and the resulting backlash. Paramount and Universal are riding so high atop the hate wave when it comes to lovely catalog titles that people had almost finally gotten over their fixation on WB and had completely forgotten about being wary with Fox titles. And now Fox has to go and open old wounds again with this loving waxjob.

I'm not sure which I'm more offended by - Spartacus where Universal was ever so careful to put a layer of fake grain over everything so poo poo still looked slightly textured, or this new Predator where they didn't even give half a gently caress and left some of the smeariest, smoothest, most unnatural looking DNR ever.

I wish every company was like Disney and went completely above and beyond with every effort. I seriously have such a huge nerd-boner for everything Disney releases.

Sony is hit or miss, but almost always above average.

Warner is still good at what Warner does, which is slamming out a catalog title as fast as possible and then double-dipping the right way, which is by releasing an amazing final product.

With Fox, it's usually the third time is the charm with their releases (see: the Alien, Predator, Independence Day and Die Hard DVDs.)

Universal just does not give a poo poo unless it's a guaranteed cash cow.

Paramount I don't even usually bother buying just because most every release since the dawn of DVD has been pure poo poo.

Neo_Reloaded
Feb 27, 2004
Something from Nothing

Tony Danza Claus posted:

I wish every company was like Disney and went completely above and beyond with every effort. I seriously have such a huge nerd-boner for everything Disney releases.

Sony is hit or miss, but almost always above average.

Warner is still good at what Warner does, which is slamming out a catalog title as fast as possible and then double-dipping the right way, which is by releasing an amazing final product.

With Fox, it's usually the third time is the charm with their releases (see: the Alien, Predator, Independence Day and Die Hard DVDs.)

Universal just does not give a poo poo unless it's a guaranteed cash cow.

Paramount I don't even usually bother buying just because most every release since the dawn of DVD has been pure poo poo.

I don't know, Disney isn't really doing great in my book. I think their catalogue output is so loving abysmally rock-bottom small that it's hard to really judge - but they sure didn't go above and beyond with the first Gangs Of New York, nor titles like The Sixth Sense (DNR), Unbreakable (to-this-day uncorrected audio pops in the lossless track, import the UK one instead), Pinocchio (to-this-day uncorrected missing lines of dialogue, import the Japanese one for a region A compatible disc with the lines intact), and others. I do give them credit for fixing the Pirates of the Caribbean disc, and for eventually remastering Gangs of new York though.

I can't think of a single Sony title since 2006 that I've been disappointed in. Their catalogue output is low too, though. Not a single DNR screwup that I can think of, which is nice.

WB is by far the best BD studio in my opinion. Huge catalogue output - from diverse genres and time periods. Some of their titles in the past were accused of being soft, and maybe there are some slight compression issues here and there - but no DNR smearjobs, no outstanding faulty discs in need of recall, and their classic titles are absolutely stunning.

Paramount and Universal need to figure their poo poo out in a bad way. Universal just throws whatever poo poo they have lying around onto a disc and calls it good. Paramount has at least taken care of its prestige titles (all the Sapphire Series besides Gladiator, whose transfer was actually handled by Universal, have been good, as have other prestige titles like The African Queen) - but their 80's and 90's catalogue titles have been as poor as Universal's. gently caress, there are even aspect ratio problems with Event Horizon and The Truman Show (stretching). Universal can't even be bothered for Spartacus or Out Of Africa, it treated them as poorly as loving Waterworld. Thank god Spielberg has a hand in most of Universal's blockbusters - maybe that will be enough to save those. But I have no expectations for anything else they put out.

The Anime Liker
Aug 8, 2009

by VideoGames

Neo_Reloaded posted:

I don't know, Disney isn't really doing great in my book.

I was thinking more along the lines of the animated Disney and especially Pixar movies, where every release is a 5-star picture, tons of features, nice packaging, and the DVD+Digital Copy bonus.

And on top of all that they're priced cheap, and almost always have those $10 coupons direct from Disney on release week.

No one else goes to that much effort to make customers happy.

As for the lack of catalog titles, it's perfectly acceptable with me if every catalog release continues to be this high in quality.

Neo_Reloaded
Feb 27, 2004
Something from Nothing

Tony Danza Claus posted:

I was thinking more along the lines of the animated Disney and especially Pixar movies, where every release is a 5-star picture, tons of features, nice packaging, and the DVD+Digital Copy bonus.

And on top of all that they're priced cheap, and almost always have those $10 coupons direct from Disney on release week.

No one else goes to that much effort to make customers happy.

As for the lack of catalog titles, it's perfectly acceptable with me if every catalog release continues to be this high in quality.

Ok, well I guess Disney Animation's 4 or 5 non-CGI catalogue titles have been swell. Though at a rate of 2 per year, they loving better be. And the CGI titles are just such gimmes - it's loving impossible to screw up a CGI BD.

Cemetry Gator
Apr 3, 2007

Do you find something comical about my appearance when I'm driving my automobile?

Look at the shadow in his shirt. Look at it! It's just black. It's like there's a black-hole in Arnold's chest that no light can escape from.

It pains me when this is what happens because you want to appeal to the lowest common denominator. If you make it look wrong, people who don't know better will just assume there's something bad with your disc.

Bambi
Jan 26, 2009

Any time you see Delekhan post, make this face and tell him how much he owns.
Looks like my namesake will be the next Disney title, tentatively planned for 2011.

http://disney.go.com/disneyvideos/animatedfilms/beauty/diamond.html

quote:

Coming in 2011: Bambi Diamond Edition!

FitFortDanga
Nov 19, 2004

Nice try, asshole

Does anyone know if this Herzog box is region-locked or not?

Nut Bunnies
May 24, 2005

Fun Shoe

Bambi posted:

Looks like my namesake will be the next Disney title, tentatively planned for 2011.

http://disney.go.com/disneyvideos/animatedfilms/beauty/diamond.html

Goddammit Disney give me the loving Lion King already

Honest Thief
Jan 11, 2009

FitFortDanga posted:

Does anyone know if this Herzog box is region-locked or not?

from what I could gather of this description http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=8017033 the movies are not locked but the special features are, either that or US players don't play PAL format
it's probably cheaper too assuming you're in the US

doctor thodt
Apr 2, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
The quality is also very questionable judging by the couple of reviews at blu-ray.com

FitFortDanga
Nov 19, 2004

Nice try, asshole

Ah well, that sucks.

doctor thodt
Apr 2, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
By the way, most (if not all) of the new Dragon Dynasty releases are surprisingly competent. I picked up Kill Zone and The Banquet at Best Buy for $15 each and they both have terrific PQ and lossless audio. Who'd have thought!

BitterAvatar
Jun 19, 2004

I do not miss the future

Neo_Reloaded posted:

I do give them credit for fixing the Pirates of the Caribbean disc

Oh god I hadn't even heard of problems with any of the Pirates Blu-Rays.

Care to elaborate on that a little bit or point me in the right direction?

Neo_Reloaded
Feb 27, 2004
Something from Nothing

BitterAvatar posted:

Oh god I hadn't even heard of problems with any of the Pirates Blu-Rays.

Care to elaborate on that a little bit or point me in the right direction?

See http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=900275 for screencaps, full explanations, and plenty o' drama.

Basically, the framing of the first Pirates of the Caribbean BD is off in one scene - characters heads are cut off by the top of the frame, and there is tons of empty space at the bottom of the frame. Disney acknowledged the problem and started a replacement program some months later. The fixed discs also trickled their way into stores, though surely there are caches of the old defective disc still in stores here and there.

It should be easy enough to check if you have a fixed copy or not by going to the timestamps present in the AVS thread and comparing to the screencaps. If you have the old disc, call Disney and they should be able to send you a replacement as well.

Cacator
Aug 6, 2005

You're quite good at turning me on.

RichterIX posted:





RichterIX
Apr 11, 2003

Sorrowful be the heart

doctor thodt posted:

By the way, most (if not all) of the new Dragon Dynasty releases are surprisingly competent. I picked up Kill Zone and The Banquet at Best Buy for $15 each and they both have terrific PQ and lossless audio. Who'd have thought!

Have there been any reviews for these? I'll take your word on The Banquet, but I've been eyeing Fong Sai-Yuk and Tai Chi Master and can't find anyone's comments about them.

Criminal Minded
Jan 4, 2005

Spring break forever
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Leopard-Blu-ray/10495/#Screenshots

Called it the best Criterion blu-ray yet. :toot:

Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this
Man, the detail in this one is kind of incredible:



That little umbrella is so sharp.

bmmello
Jul 11, 2002

New Masters of Cinema releases.

Vengeance is Mine is a must-own for me, though I wonder if I shall get it now or eventually wait for a Criterion release?

Saturniid19
Aug 1, 2006
brought to you by North Central Positronics

Neo_Reloaded posted:

See http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=900275 for screencaps, full explanations, and plenty o' drama.

Basically, the framing of the first Pirates of the Caribbean BD is off in one scene - characters heads are cut off by the top of the frame, and there is tons of empty space at the bottom of the frame. Disney acknowledged the problem and started a replacement program some months later. The fixed discs also trickled their way into stores, though surely there are caches of the old defective disc still in stores here and there.

It should be easy enough to check if you have a fixed copy or not by going to the timestamps present in the AVS thread and comparing to the screencaps. If you have the old disc, call Disney and they should be able to send you a replacement as well.

I just received my trilogy box set from Amazon today, and sure enough, Curse of the Black Pearl has the framing error. I assumed it would be fixed, since the trilogy came out after the error was acknowledged, but there you go. Why waste the disc when most people won't notice the problem, I guess.

Noxville
Dec 7, 2003

I don't know how that kind of error possibly makes to production, does no-one check the video before mastering it?

doctor thodt
Apr 2, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

RichterIX posted:

Have there been any reviews for these? I'll take your word on The Banquet, but I've been eyeing Fong Sai-Yuk and Tai Chi Master and can't find anyone's comments about them.

Haven't seen any reviews, but all the user comments so far are positive.

bmmello posted:

New Masters of Cinema releases.

Vengeance is Mine is a must-own for me, though I wonder if I shall get it now or eventually wait for a Criterion release?

Both of these releases will be region B-locked :(

frumpsnake
Jan 30, 2001

The sad part is, he wasn't always evil.

doctor thodt posted:

Both of these releases will be region B-locked :(
It's, what, 25 bucks for a plug-in modchip for a $289 Oppo BDP-80?

doctor thodt
Apr 2, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Ugh stop trying to make me cross over to the dark side

edit:

A Star Is Born reviewed

doctor thodt fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Jun 17, 2010

Delzuma
Dec 4, 2004

Just saw this on AICN:

quote:

If you order the Bond 11-pack and type in AMZNBOND at checkout (where it asks “Have any gift cards, gift certificates or promotional claim codes?”) Amazon subtracts $170.99, reducing your order from $269.99 to $99.99 (or $9.09 per Blu-ray movie)!

I just don't think I can get anything less than a complete set (I 'm certain the release schedule will screw me somehow later). But this looks like a pretty drat good deal.

Delzuma fucked around with this message at 02:27 on Jun 17, 2010

Call Me Charlie
Dec 3, 2005

by Smythe

Delzuma posted:

Just saw this on AICN:


I just don't think I can get anything less than a complete set (I 'm certain the release schedule will screw me somehow later). But this looks like a pretty drat good deal.

That was actually $69.99 this morning. Amazon raised the price after people started hammering it.

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

It's an OK price, but I'd spend the same amount of money on getting only the Connery films. And I didn't think Thunderball was that great.

Criminal Minded
Jan 4, 2005

Spring break forever
Off topic, anybody know any reputable sites to sell DVDS to in bulk for cash? I can't tell which of these sites I can trust.

Fat Lou
Jan 21, 2008

Desert Heat? I thought it was Dessert Heat. No wonder it tastes so bad.

Amazon buys DVDs. I have never used them, but I have considered it.

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

Criminal Minded posted:

Off topic, anybody know any reputable sites to sell DVDS to in bulk for cash? I can't tell which of these sites I can trust.

I'd try SAMart here. I'm about to put up about 1/3 of my collection for sale there.

Agreed
Dec 30, 2003

The price of meat has just gone up, and your old lady has just gone down

Cemetry Gator posted:

Look at the shadow in his shirt. Look at it! It's just black. It's like there's a black-hole in Arnold's chest that no light can escape from.

It pains me when this is what happens because you want to appeal to the lowest common denominator. If you make it look wrong, people who don't know better will just assume there's something bad with your disc.

I showed both the full screen shoot and the comparison picture to my wife, and she's not blind or anything but she said if she were going to buy one of the two BDs based on that comparison shot she'd pick the processed one. That first one is a really bad transfer, and while going the "holy poo poo that's some DNR" route obviously has some serious impacts on the fidelity to the source, I can see why such an apparently clean appearance appeals to an audience that doesn't really know about the behind-the-scenes stuff with transfers, DNR, etc.

That said I think "lowest common denominator" is a little bit harsh, there's obviously some middle ground and if the first transfer is indicative at all of the source quality then I imagine they HAD to do SOME processing to get it up to a level of quality that makes it worth getting on BD at all, though obviously they went overboard and it shows. What stands out to me more than anything is his damned shirt. It's so... uniform, it looks almost cel-shaded. I'd have to see the film in action to make a judgment but if I bought the first BD and got that really bad transfer, I'm not sure if I'd consider it a step down watching the second one, warts and all. Again, not sure, just have to actually see it before making up my mind.

On a similar note I picked up the Die Hard 4-pack, and we watched the first one yesterday. I thought it looked great, way better than the DVD, awesome sound (and plus Die Hard is just a fun movie, it has aged really well in most respects, way better than I imagine the most recent one is going to when we're looking back 20 years from now). Then I went online and it's given mostly unremarkable scores as far as the quality of the transfer goes. I don't see it, personally, looks great to me - high fidelity to the source without obnoxious interference to try and make it "pop" any more than it would have in theaters. Someone shed some light on what I'm missing, if anything?

Butthole Prince
Nov 19, 2004

She said that she was working for the ABC News / It was as much of the alphabet as she knew how to use.

Fat Lou posted:

Amazon buys DVDs. I have never used them, but I have considered it.

The prices they offer are pretty ridiculous. I realize that there's not a whole lot of demand for Batman Begins or Fight Club on DVD, but I'd like to get more than $0.50 each for them.

Neo_Reloaded
Feb 27, 2004
Something from Nothing

Agreed posted:

That said I think "lowest common denominator" is a little bit harsh, there's obviously some middle ground and if the first transfer is indicative at all of the source quality then I imagine they HAD to do SOME processing to get it up to a level of quality that makes it worth getting on BD at all, though obviously they went overboard and it shows. What stands out to me more than anything is his damned shirt. It's so... uniform, it looks almost cel-shaded. I'd have to see the film in action to make a judgment but if I bought the first BD and got that really bad transfer, I'm not sure if I'd consider it a step down watching the second one, warts and all. Again, not sure, just have to actually see it before making up my mind.

See, I disagree - there doesn't seem to be anything wrong with the first transfer. The film is simply grainy. And even then, it's not THAT grainy in comparison to a lot of other films. The DNR looks absolutely ridiculous.

Agreed posted:

On a similar note I picked up the Die Hard 4-pack, and we watched the first one yesterday. I thought it looked great, way better than the DVD, awesome sound (and plus Die Hard is just a fun movie, it has aged really well in most respects, way better than I imagine the most recent one is going to when we're looking back 20 years from now). Then I went online and it's given mostly unremarkable scores as far as the quality of the transfer goes. I don't see it, personally, looks great to me - high fidelity to the source without obnoxious interference to try and make it "pop" any more than it would have in theaters. Someone shed some light on what I'm missing, if anything?

I don't think you're really missing anything. The release is very solid in my opinion, it's just generally not a visually spectacular film so people rag on it. It also came out before the anti-DNR and "true to the source" craze started online so a lot more people were viewing things from the perspective of how "HD" they looked, not how CORRECT they looked. Re-reviewed today, I feel the scores would be slightly higher.

Neo_Reloaded fucked around with this message at 16:00 on Jun 17, 2010

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

Butthole Prince posted:

The prices they offer are pretty ridiculous. I realize that there's not a whole lot of demand for Batman Begins or Fight Club on DVD, but I'd like to get more than $0.50 each for them.

That's about the most you're going to get. Supply on DVDs is much higher than demand.

Robert Analog
Feb 16, 2008

shyah
Have they fixed the Oldboy lossless audio on The Vengeance Trilogy? I'm struggling to find any information about this. Also does anyone know if the tin is only available from Best Buy?

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

doctor thodt
Apr 2, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
It hasn't been done yet, but they are planning on fixing it and offering a replacement program to everyone who bought the gimped version.

  • Locked thread