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Elotana posted:He's at Texas. And I don't think race is as big a factor in hiring as it is with admissions. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqPqTfGxZbM
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Mookie posted:The only thing less sociable and weirder than a transactional attorney is a tax attorney. This is fact, not opinion. Dude, you're a liquid-dieting biglaw associate whose only regret is that it's impossible to bill 25 hours in a day. Who are you calling unsociable and weird?
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Ainsley McTree posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqPqTfGxZbM So you're saying I have to cripple myself.... *grab sledgehammer* But yeah I'm at Texas. And I heard the same, that URM status doesn't work the same way for recruiting as it does for admissions. Didn't someone post here that their friend at UMich was URM and on LR and still struck out at OCI last year/year before?
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Elotana posted:He's at Texas. And I don't think race is as big a factor in hiring as it is with admissions. If you're a URM at a T1 (hell, maybe T2 and into T3) who isn't failing and you just finished your 1L year, I can get you a paid 2L summer position at a good law firm that will turn into a job (around $100k) after your graduate if you don't gently caress up. No, I am not kidding. Seriously, PM me if you fit these characteristics and will move to California (or Nevada, but you don't want to move to Nevada)
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Jun 19, 2010 06:08
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nm posted:Yes it is. Woah woah woah. I'd love California. I don't have PM, but bobbypuleojr AT gmail DOT com
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MaximumBob posted:it's impossible to bill 25 hours in a day technically it's not impossible
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nm posted:Yes it is. Just checking, but Asian males still don't count as URMs, do they?
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i81icu812 posted:Just checking, but Asian males still don't count as URMs, do they?
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MaximumBob posted:Dude, you're a liquid-dieting biglaw associate whose only regret is that it's impossible to bill 25 hours in a day. Who are you calling unsociable and weird? He's employed in biglaw. He can be as unsociable and weird as he wants, but will always remain on a pedestal.
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Mookie posted:On a positive note, the lateral biglaw market is starting to pick up. For the first time in a while, I've started getting a bunch of headhunters calling to try and sell a new job on me. Fun fact: I was chatting with a hiring partner at a very well regarded but lower-big sized firm about hiring out of clerkships, and she laughed at me. I was only talking to her because it was a party that the firm sponsored and my roommate got a +1 guest invitation, but I stared incredulously at her in response. "But what about State Supreme Court clerks and Fed'l Appellate Clerks? They don't have a chance?" Laughter. loving laughter. If you think the unemployed have a chance, you're so incredibly naive. BigHead fucked around with this message at 10:46 on Jun 19, 2010 |
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Jun 19, 2010 10:44
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Xane posted:
A litigator.
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BigHead posted:Fun fact: I was chatting with a hiring partner at a very well regarded but lower-big sized firm about hiring out of clerkships, and she laughed at me. I was only talking to her because it was a party that the firm sponsored and my roommate got a +1 guest invitation, but I stared incredulously at her in response. "But what about State Supreme Court clerks and Fed'l Appellate Clerks? They don't have a chance?" Laughter. loving laughter. If you think the unemployed have a chance, you're so incredibly naive. Good. Those are our jobs. You had your chance.
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KimchiHead posted:Sure I'll get on it, but I'm going out soon. It's Friday, and I'm not in law school yet, so I'll not be reading cases when I could be mackin some hos. KimchiHead, I'm going to make this a very, very easy decision for you by asking one simple question: Do you want to spend the rest of your life being as bitter as the rest of the people in this thread? And that doesn't just mean your working years, but all of them, until you loving die. Because if you think they're "getting pretty worked up" over a discussion about going to law school, try being a law student or, god forbid, a lawyer, and getting even more worked up over absolutely everything. Even poo poo you disagree with. gently caress, especially poo poo you disagree with.
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IrritationX posted:KimchiHead, I'm going to make this a very, very easy decision for you by asking one simple question: Do you want to spend the rest of your life being as bitter as the rest of the people in this thread? And that doesn't just mean your working years, but all of them, until you loving die. Because if you think they're "getting pretty worked up" over a discussion about going to law school, try being a law student or, god forbid, a lawyer, and getting even more worked up over absolutely everything. Even poo poo you disagree with. gently caress, especially poo poo you disagree with. He ain't kidding about the self-hate. I'm at the gym 10 hours a week throwing punches to relieve stress. I've got a hole the size of a nickel in the bottom of my foot and some torn cartilage in my knee and I can't stop going because I have to let out the hate. The only people who are dumb enough to work with me are stock brokers and other lawyers because they hate themselves just as much as I do.
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Counterpoint: I love myself and my coworkers - the work is intellectually stimulating and fun if a little boring. Then again, I'm in the government.
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JudicialRestraints posted:Counterpoint: I love myself and my coworkers - the work is intellectually stimulating and fun if a little boring. Haven't you only been at it a few weeks?
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JudicialRestraints posted:Counterpoint: I love myself and my coworkers - the work is intellectually stimulating and fun if a little boring. Counterpoint: also in the government. Love coworkers and work is generally stimulating and fun. However also spent most of this week doing attorneys' jobs for them because they couldn't be bothered to write a decent SD motion or comply with the court rules. Rage level: Sith marauder.
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Alaemon posted:Counterpoint: also in the government. Love coworkers and work is generally stimulating and fun. However also spent most of this week doing attorneys' jobs for them because they couldn't be bothered to write a decent SD motion or comply with the court rules.
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Solomon Grundy posted:A litigator.
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i81icu812 posted:Just checking, but Asian males still don't count as URMs, do they? Not for admissions, but they do count as minorities for law firms. You can definitely apply for firm diversity programs and scholarships and things because you're Asian (works for females of any race too even though they're not a URM for law school admissions). Some applications will let you apply if you just have a "diverse lifestyle or viewpoint" though they'll probably choose a real minority over you to win the position. Mookie posted:Unfortunately for a lot of people, I've heard that all of these are only for people who currently have full-time associate positions. In other words, unemployed need not apply. I really do wonder how I'm ever going to get a job again, anywhere.
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HooKars posted:I really do wonder how I'm ever going to get a job again, anywhere. ¿Accidentes? ¡Se habla Español!
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Mookie posted:¿Accidentes? ¡Se habla Español! No joke. TV lawyers will refer you their cases if they get a 40% cut. But man, those cases SUCK.
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CaptainScraps posted:No joke. TV lawyers will refer you their cases if they get a 40% cut. e: and Hookars is better than them. e2: A few years ago one of the local tv lawyers was sued by his client because his client didn't think his lawyer was trying to get the most money for his client and instead was simply operating a revolving door business where defense lawyers knew he would settle a case at a lower acceptable rate than normal just to speed up the process. Go figure, right? At any rate, in the deposition of this tv lawyer, he admitted to having gone to trial only once and having never taken the deposition of any witness in his 20+ years of practice. gently caress tv lawyers. e3: and he's still raking in business. Green Crayons fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Jun 19, 2010 |
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Adar posted:Serious question: are you the only Cooley graduate from your year with a job right now? You must be pretty close, right? Congratulations. Couldn't tell you. Didn't have much contact with my classmates before graduation, same holds true now.
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^^^ At any rate, you're the only Cooley grad with a good avatar.Green Crayons posted:Those aren't real lawyers. the hammer shapiro?
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Wikipedia'd Shapiro and loled. I wasn't referring to him, so either I've heard a fictional localized version of Shapiro with inserted local attorney names or that's just par for the course for the actions of a large number of tv attorneys. I'd put my money on the latter.
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Last semester at law school I had class 3 days a week and my earliest class was 1:40pm. Let me tell you, getting up at 7am to go to work 5 days a week takes some getting used to. I decided to take a nap when I got home at like 6pm on Friday and didn't leave bed for 14 hours being a lawyer isn't that bad actually, but working a real job sucks
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yeah being a real adult blows, I should have stayed nine. Legos were awesome
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Nero posted:yeah being a real adult blows, I should have stayed nine. Legos were awesome I wish there was a way to combine the lack of responsibility of being a nine-year old with the ability to buy booze of being a 21+ year old. I'd sail off on that boat
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Ainsley McTree posted:I wish there was a way to combine the lack of responsibility of being a nine-year old with the ability to buy booze of being a 21+ year old. I'd sail off on that boat Get filthy rich. Oh, you went to law school. Sorry. Can't help.
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Ainsley McTree posted:I wish there was a way to combine the lack of responsibility of being a nine-year old with the ability to buy booze of being a 21+ year old. I'd sail off on that boat It's called sponging off your parents until "the economy picks up" (forever). It seems to be working out rather well for some of my less motivated friends from college.
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nm posted:Yes it is.
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i'm going to run my little situation by you all i have a 170 / 4.0. good enough for a full scholarship from lewis & clark in portland, or, which is where i currently live & want to continue living. i'm interested in environmental issues (i spend much of my time as an env. activist). L & C appeals to me not only because it's here in portland, but also because they strive for a less competitive/cutthroat atmosphere, have an environmental advocacy center on campus that does good work, and is consistently rated as one of the top "environmental law" schools, for whatever that's worth. they also offer some sort of certificate along with your degree if you focus on env. law. i've sat through some law classes there and find them fairly interesting and enjoy being in school generally. also i know several people that have graduated from there and they all have had good things to say about the school and have pretty good jobs i have less than 4k in undergrad debt and don't care about making a ton of money (or much at all; i've been living happily on 12k/year recently). i am somewhat interested in serving in public office/working with an environmental nonprofit. am i going to THROW MY LIFE AWAY by going to law school? or does this sound like a reasonable decision. THANKS GOONS
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toy posted:i'm going to run my little situation by you all The general advice from this thread is 1. don't go to law school 2. if going, go to the best possible school you can. With those numbers, you would be very competitive at Berkeley and decently competitive at Stanford, so you could stay decently close to Portland. Apply early. A full ride is great and all, but if you can't get a job after slogging away for 3 years, what's the point? Also people rail against L and C in here. ps Certificates and stuff like that along with a degree are pretty meaningless.
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toy posted:...also because they strive for a less competitive/cutthroat atmosphere, have an environmental advocacy center on campus that does good work, and is consistently rated as one of the top "environmental law" schools, for whatever that's worth. they also offer some sort of certificate along with your degree if you focus on env. law. Sigh.
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Solomon Grundy posted:Sigh. don't hold back there sport, let me have it. tell me how stupid/unprepared/naive/worthless i am and why.
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With all the information in the OP I'm surprised there isn't a giant bold SPECIALTY RANKINGS ARE WORTHLESS. IGNORE THEM.
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Toy posted:...also because they strive for a less competitive/cutthroat atmosphere, have an environmental advocacy center on campus that does good work, and is consistently rated as one of the top "environmental law" schools, for whatever that's worth. they also offer some sort of certificate along with your degree if you focus on env. law. drat, what are you waiting for? Run, Forrest, run towards your destiny!
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