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Evan Bourne and Justin GAYbriel hit their flippy finishers perfectly everytime. Why is Morrison sloppy as gently caress with Starship Pain?
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Jun 18, 2010 21:16
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They are always way too close to the turnbuckle and he always overshoots it. So whenever he comes down he just kind of grazes them and it doesn't come off that well.
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Jun 18, 2010 21:21
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How come Raven only managed as Johnny Polo, commentated and did behind the scenes work during his first WWF run? He would wrestle but very rarely and also why did he leave?
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Jun 18, 2010 21:24
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The A-Team Van posted:Evan Bourne and Justin GAYbriel hit their flippy finishers perfectly everytime. Why is Morrison sloppy as gently caress with Starship Pain? Well just for starters he's rotating his entire body weight on two separate axes as opposed to just one. Second it's a springboard move which means he doesn't have the time to set it up that Gabriel or Bourne have, and it's a split-leg springboard which makes it even tougher for him to really judge how far he's going to land. I'm not saying the Shooting Star Press or 450 aren't incredibly difficult to pull off in their own right, but they're probably easier to master since there's a lot less x-factors involved in executing them perfectly. Edit: When did Mysterio start doing that lame-rear end belly flop instead of the West coast pop after hitting people with the 619?
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Jun 18, 2010 21:25
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Morrison also doesn't wear kneepads. If he were to actually land starship pain properly, and do it 100+ times a year, he'd be unable to run by age 40, so he just lands on the side of his legs instead.
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Jun 18, 2010 21:32
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Meat Recital posted:Morrison also doesn't wear kneepads. If he were to actually land starship pain properly, and do it 100+ times a year, he'd be unable to run by age 40, so he just lands on the side of his legs instead. Maybe he could pick a different finisher instead of just doing his finisher shitilly?
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Jun 18, 2010 21:40
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FishBulb posted:Maybe he could pick a different finisher instead of just doing his finisher shitilly? Or wear loving kneepads?
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Jun 18, 2010 21:46
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The A-Team Van posted:Evan Bourne and Justin GAYbriel hit their flippy finishers perfectly everytime. Why is Morrison sloppy as gently caress with Starship Pain? I was fine with Moonlight Drive as a finisher, and while I like Starship Pain in concept, he really does not land it right.
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Jun 18, 2010 21:47
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Bearnt! posted:How come Raven only managed as Johnny Polo, commentated and did behind the scenes work during his first WWF run? He would wrestle but very rarely and also why did he leave? Vince didn't like his ring work and didn't think he was big enough to be a WWE wrestler, but thought he had good ideas and was grooming him to be part of the creative team. Raven left because he wanted to actually wrestle.
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Jun 18, 2010 21:49
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Chilly McFreeze posted:But you see, all college athletes get "tutoring" so they can maintain their "good grades". Unless its Penn State football That's not even me being a fan boy, I can tell you stories
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Jun 18, 2010 21:53
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ABOUT DRUGS posted:It was already pointed out, but he always overshoots them. Considering Morrison is rather crisp with his other signature moves, I have to assume he is aware of that. It may be that landing the move legitimately is dangerous for some reason, either to him or his opponent. We have to keep in mind that there are more variables with his move, as the rope tension means less for Bourne than for Morrison. Plus the fact that I'm sure hitting a no-look split-legged corkscrew backflip is loving god damned hard.
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Jun 18, 2010 22:06
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Has WWE ever done one of those international invitational type events where federations bring in wrestlers from Japan/Mexico to compete with their own wrestlers in matches?
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Jun 18, 2010 23:18
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LightsGameraAction posted:Has WWE ever done one of those international invitational type events where federations bring in wrestlers from Japan/Mexico to compete with their own wrestlers in matches? They had TAKA Michinoku take on the Great Sasuke at an In Your House event and there were several Mexican wrestlers that basically took on each other from Survivor Series 1995 to the 1996 Royal Rumble.
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Jun 18, 2010 23:26
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Rusty Shackelford posted:They had TAKA Michinoku take on the Great Sasuke at an In Your House event and there were several Mexican wrestlers that basically took on each other from Survivor Series 1995 to the 1996 Royal Rumble. 96 - 97.
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Jun 19, 2010 00:03
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ABOUT DRUGS posted:It was already pointed out, but he always overshoots them. Considering Morrison is rather crisp with his other signature moves, I have to assume he is aware of that. It may be that landing the move legitimately is dangerous for some reason, either to him or his opponent. We have to keep in mind that there are more variables with his move, as the rope tension means less for Bourne than for Morrison. I'm going with this just because he used to land it very flush, but then he KNEED THE EVERLOVING gently caress OUT OF CHARLIE HAAS' FACE and probably still feels bad about it.
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Jun 19, 2010 00:18
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what's the most titles one wrestler has held at the same time? I know Ultimo Dragon has had points where he's come to the ring with 5 or 6 titles.
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Jun 19, 2010 05:08
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Lamuella posted:what's the most titles one wrestler has held at the same time? I know Ultimo Dragon has had points where he's come to the ring with 5 or 6 titles. It was 9. The 8 J Crown belts plus the WCW Cruiserweight title.
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Jun 19, 2010 05:14
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CoronaLargesse posted:Uhm, Morrison and Mysterio proceeded to put on a MOTYC soooo what's the problem? The problem is that it helped no-one. People forget that Morrison was on the verge of the main event. He was 2-1 up against World Heavyweight Champion CM Punk. He had a complete barnburner of a World Title match with Jeff in which he became the only person I can recall who isn't called HHH to kick out of the Swanton Bomb. He was crazy over as well. Giving him the IC belt and having him feud with Ziggler killed his push and he never recovered.
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Jun 19, 2010 05:18
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Ziggy Tsardust posted:in which he became the only person I can recall who isn't called HHH to kick out of the Swanton Bomb.
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Jun 19, 2010 05:22
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Endorph posted:Matt has to of kicked out of the Swanton Bomb at some point during him and Jeff's five different feuds. I recall him putting his foot on the ropes but that doesn't have the same 'putting over' effect that a kickout does.
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Jun 19, 2010 05:24
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Does the Pope still appear on Impact?
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Jun 19, 2010 05:44
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Curtis of Nigeria posted:Does the Pope still appear on Impact? The mid-card guys only seem to appear once every 2-3 weeks, aaaand I think he's injured?
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Jun 19, 2010 05:49
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Curtis of Nigeria posted:Does the Pope still appear on Impact? Take off his hat! e: sorry wrong pope question
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Jun 19, 2010 15:20
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Question time: Was flipping through Terry Funk's autobio last night, and he paints Lou Thesz in a pretty negative light as a world champion, saying that if Lou had to face a guy in a territory that he didn't like or think was a legit talent, he'd stiff them in the ring (which he could do with his skills) and basically kill off that guy's drawing power. Maybe I just haven't read enough stories about the old days, but are there any other articles/books that confirm this story?
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Jun 19, 2010 15:59
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CVagts posted:Was flipping through Terry Funk's autobio last night, and he paints Lou Thesz in a pretty negative light as a world champion, saying that if Lou had to face a guy in a territory that he didn't like or think was a legit talent, he'd stiff them in the ring (which he could do with his skills) and basically kill off that guy's drawing power. Maybe I just haven't read enough stories about the old days, but are there any other articles/books that confirm this story? Jim Cornette and Bobby Heenan talk about it in one of their ROH shoots - basically Lou was a "this is WRESTLING so we WRESTLE, dammit" kinda guy and didn't like gimmick wrestlers who weren't shooters.
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Jun 19, 2010 16:10
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What if HHH and Stephanie had a really messy divorce? I can't imagine any other scenario than Hunter leaving the company and starting his own. There's no way he'd go to TNA, and I also think it would be impossible for him to just retire from the business. I have a feeling a promotion run by HHH would be really loving good. Also Wargames. Any theories?
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Jun 19, 2010 16:55
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DannoMack posted:What if HHH and Stephanie had a really messy divorce? I can't imagine any other scenario than Hunter leaving the company and starting his own. There's no way he'd go to TNA, and I also think it would be impossible for him to just retire from the business.
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Jun 19, 2010 16:58
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Endorph posted:A promotion ran by HHH would either be really good, or HHH winning 5000 Wargames matches at once and winning every belt ever, which he tapes together and uses to drag a corpse around for him to gently caress after every win. From "A Wrestling Carol" EVAN BOURNE: I challenge you for the hardcore title, Triple H! You've beat everyone else 10 times, but you've only beat me nine! TRIPLE H: Alright. If I lose, I guess I could go back to using toilet paper.
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Jun 19, 2010 18:36
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CombineThresher posted:Vince didn't like his ring work and didn't think he was big enough to be a WWE wrestler, but thought he had good ideas and was grooming him to be part of the creative team. Raven left because he wanted to actually wrestle. Did he also get Shane high and that lead to when Raven returned to WWE Vince screaming Who the gently caress hired Raven?
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Jun 19, 2010 18:49
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DannoMack posted:What if HHH and Stephanie had a really messy divorce? I can't imagine any other scenario than Hunter leaving the company and starting his own. There's no way he'd go to TNA, and I also think it would be impossible for him to just retire from the business. Vince has been quoted as saying he would hate it if they got divorced since he'd really miss Stephanie. I think at this point HHH's position is consolidated enough that even a messy divorce wouldn't make him a persona non grata in the company.
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Jun 19, 2010 19:07
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MassRayPer posted:Vince has been quoted as saying he would hate it if they got divorced since he'd really miss Stephanie. Vince McMahowns.
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Jun 19, 2010 19:19
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Wiki posted:* There's a man-made volcano in Hardy's front lawn, which he sets ablaze to use as a motocross ring
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Jun 19, 2010 19:31
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bobkatt013 posted:Did he also get Shane high and that lead to when Raven returned to WWE Vince screaming Who the gently caress hired Raven? Supposedly. It's always struck me as an odd moral/ethical qualm coming from him though.
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Jun 19, 2010 19:46
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MassRayPer posted:Vince has been quoted as saying he would hate it if they got divorced since he'd really miss Stephanie. I think at this point HHH's position is consolidated enough that even a messy divorce wouldn't make him a persona non grata in the company. Honestly this doesn't surprise me that much because I'm sure Triple H loves the business a hell of a lot more than Steph, so business-wise it makes sense for Vince to keep him around.
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Jun 19, 2010 19:53
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So, is there any real reason Chris Hero left CHIKARA and has never returned since the end of 2007? Was there some kind of heat between Quack and Hero?
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Jun 19, 2010 20:23
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In the new Undertaker set they have the last ride match between him and Mr. Kennedy and JBL is on commentary. During the match JBL says a few times how his own Last Ride match with Taker significantly shortened his career. A. Did he actually sustain some kind of serious injury in that match or was it BS? B. What was the reason for JBL retiring?
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Jun 19, 2010 20:36
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LightsGameraAction posted:In the new Undertaker set they have the last ride match between him and Mr. Kennedy and JBL is on commentary. During the match JBL says a few times how his own Last Ride match with Taker significantly shortened his career. I don't think that match actually did anything severe. JBL just had a bad back for a while which was why he switched over to announcing. He went back to wrestling cuz he said he missed it and when he actually retired it was just due to years of wrestling, injuries, and the other ailments that come from years of wrestling.
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Jun 19, 2010 20:50
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LightsGameraAction posted:Supposedly. It's always struck me as an odd moral/ethical qualm coming from him though. It's pretty simple, Shane is his son.
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Jun 19, 2010 20:51
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FishBulb posted:It's pretty simple, Shane is his son. Shane is his son who was practically murdered in a match because he let him wrestle. He similarly doesn't seem very protective of Stephanie on the average. Don't get me wrong, behind all the weird-rear end Mr. McMahon-ness of his personality he's probably a really good dad. It's just weird thinking of all the insane poo poo he's done and he's let his kids do but a wrestler doing drugs with his son enraged him so much, especially considering that a year or two later he wanted to do an incest story with Stephanie over her IRL baby. It's one of the only points in history he let his actual dad side come out and it's cute but so very out of character for him at the time.
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I can see a difference in letting his kids wrestle [albiet Shane works a dangerous style] and letting them go out partying with the boys, snorting God only knows what random grey powdery poo poo a wasted Raven would pull out from the back pocket of his jorts
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