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orange lime posted:How can you give him a 45 in Perception? JC's vision is augmented.
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Oh, my bad, then. 45 Personality sounds a little too high though. "Oh my God, JC! A bomb!" "A bomb."
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50's middling so he's slightly below average. I had it set lower but Daggerfall applies random dice roll increases up to a certain amount to every skill after you customize stuff manually. That character died in an unfortunate magic accident (He was a nord but I accidentally gave him critical weakness to magicka thinking he was another race...), so I made a new JC.  I think I found the best face I could, given the cirumstance- an Adam Jensen one. This JC managed to make it out of the starting dungeon and into the nearest bar. 
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Jetsetlemming posted:I think I found the best face I could, given the cirumstance- an Adam Jensen one. This JC managed to make it out of the starting dungeon and into the nearest bar. Oh Daggerfall, your heaping mess of dialogue glitches (and glitches in general) led me on such a path of misery. Seriously though, gently caress Daggerfall.
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jonjonaug posted:Oh Daggerfall, your heaping mess of dialogue glitches (and glitches in general) led me on such a path of misery. What a shame.
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Jetsetlemming posted:JC DENTON Spare five credits for a nanoaug agent with the Gray Death?
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You know what the one lame thing in this game is? You can't kill Paul. Ever. By default he's always invincible, so even in the NSF hangar you can't gun him down and get a funky conversation or something.
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Fuzz posted:You know what the one lame thing in this game is? You can't kill Paul. Ever. By default he's always invincible, so even in the NSF hangar you can't gun him down and get a funky conversation or something.
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e: Wrong Deus Ex thread. My bad.
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Fuzz posted:You know what the one lame thing in this game is? You can't kill Paul. Ever. By default he's always invincible, so even in the NSF hangar you can't gun him down and get a funky conversation or something. Jetsetlemming posted:I think this is more than made up for by being able to assassinate Page in Versalife by shooting him through the crack between a window and windowsill. Even though that breaks the game, it's still awesome.
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Fnoigy posted:So what happens when you kill him? Does the game crash later on, or does it just pretend it never happened since you shouldn't be able to do that?
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Fuzz posted:You know what the one lame thing in this game is? You can't kill Paul. Ever. By default he's always invincible, so even in the NSF hangar you can't gun him down and get a funky conversation or something. edit: person I want to kill is Alex Jacobson. gently caress that smug sob
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Mathemagician posted:edit: person I want to kill is Alex Jacobson. gently caress that smug sob
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That's it. I'm doing it. The shakycam Human Revolution footage that got posted on RPS this morning has sent me spiralling back into a cyberpunk binge. I've already started rewatching GitS and I'm halfway through rereading Neuromancer, but I'm going to play Invisible War. I need some slightly-prettier-than-Deus-Ex cyberpunk and the only other option I can think of is Neotokyo (which isn't really that cyberpunk and is also pretty terrible). I'm sorry. I have no choice. It's that, or I'm going to have to watch Johnny Mnemonic and New Rose Hotel, and no one wants to sink that low. 
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I reread the whole Sprawl trilogy after reading through this thread and replaying DX a few weeks ago. I had forgotten how many nods to Neuromancer there are in the game (two AI's merging into one godlike meta-AI, wearing sunglasses all the time). I also replayed Invisible War and was disappointed at how not-cyberpunk it was.
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Ansob. posted:I'm halfway through rereading Neuromancer I love how the first line of that book is completely obsolete. I mean, what, the sky is blue? 
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Pope Guilty posted:I love how the first line of that book is completely obsolete. I mean, what, the sky is blue? Also all the poo poo about the guy with the three megabytes of data. Three megabytes! 
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Ansob. posted:I've already started rewatching GitS and I'm halfway through rereading Neuromancer, but I'm going to play Invisible War. I hope the planets are aligned in your favor (so that the tech will actually work for you). Also if you're serious about playing IW, you need two things: The John P Texture Pack and The DXTool so you can tweak the game (especially so you can make the gigantic text smaller). Good luck, goon.
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I'm below the castle in Trier and this really isn't the baby eating festival I was lead to believe (or remember). I mean sure; the levels are tiny, skills are gone and there are only 5 augs, people yammer into your ear without reason almost non-stop just because you killed a man in his apartment without due cause. But it's still quiet and slow, there's poo poo hidden in dumpsters and basements and vents and you can still spout one liners that get you into fights. (You can also eat candybars in front of guards and be told to knock it off then break into an arms dealer and steal the entire stock without a second glance from anyone)
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Because people give IW more poo poo than it deserves through the internet pile on effect. It's not nearly as good as DX, but contrary to popular belief, not as good != complete poo poo.
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When I try to go into the llama temple in TNM, I just end up outside again. Does anyone know a way to fix this? This is just after the shadowcore mission, when a new secondary goal from the llamas comes up.
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 HAPPY 10TH BIRTHDAY, DEUS EX!!!  HAPPY 10TH BIRTHDAY, DEUS EX!!! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
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Tecman posted:Good luck, goon. Thanks for the links. I shall celebrate Deus Ex's ten years of age by playing Invisible War. It feels wrong.
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Just fired up Deus Ex again and loaded an old save from Area 51 where i can choose endings and did the Helios ending. No better way to celebrate 10 excellent years.
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I can't believe it's been ten years. What a game.
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Grand Fromage posted:Because people give IW more poo poo than it deserves through the internet pile on effect. It's not nearly as good as DX, but contrary to popular belief, not as good != complete poo poo. It's a complete trainwreck of game with things such as level design and the scale of the levels falling flat compared to the god tier original.
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I just came to say happy birthday Deus Ex, you guided me through many a late night when I worked (ironically) as a security guard. I started trying to play IW for the occasion, but I can't get it to go past 1024 x 768 and thats a bit on an issue on a widescreen laptop.
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etalian posted:It's a complete trainwreck of game with things such as level design and the scale of the levels falling flat compared to the god tier original. Big Rigs: Off the Road Racing was a trainwreck of a game. IW was merely disappointing.
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Kieselguhr Kid posted:Big Rigs: Off the Road Racing was a trainwreck of a game. IW was merely disappointing. Ayup. I didn't hate it when I got it, and I liked a bunch of stuff it had. True, it was never even close to the original's level of quality, but...
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If Invisible War didn't have the Deus Ex name on it people would be praising it for emulating Deus Ex and being fun. It's not an utterly amazing game but it's decent enough. Same thing with Deus Ex 3, if it didn't have the brand name people would be singing its praises. Just don't try to play IW right after finishing the original, I couldn't bear it
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AXE COP posted:If Invisible War didn't have the Deus Ex name on it people would be praising it for emulating Deus Ex and being fun. It's not an utterly amazing game but it's decent enough. I've got to say that the setting for HR appeals to me more than vanilla Deus Ex. Theres something quite effecting about sacrificing your human meatbody for upgrades, and it's an idea at the heart of cyberpunk. I know that it's fully plot justified but the idea of the nano upgrade being better in every way just doesnt have the same appeal. JC had glowing eyes and some blue lines etched into him. Gunther Herman, and Anna Navarre made themselves grotesque in order to be better warriors, clearly made a sacrifice, and that plot was fun to explore. Looking forward to turning myself into a hideous hunky freak in HR.
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ShineDog posted:I've got to say that the setting for HR appeals to me more than vanilla Deus Ex. Theres something quite effecting about sacrificing your human meatbody for upgrades, and it's an idea at the heart of cyberpunk. I know that it's fully plot justified but the idea of the nano upgrade being better in every way just doesnt have the same appeal. Did you play Too Human? lovely gameplay aside, I think you'd enjoy the premise
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ShineDog posted:I've got to say that the setting for HR appeals to me more than vanilla Deus Ex. Theres something quite effecting about sacrificing your human meatbody for upgrades, and it's an idea at the heart of cyberpunk. I know that it's fully plot justified but the idea of the nano upgrade being better in every way just doesnt have the same appeal. Hopefully in DX3, instead of inserting a glowy blue canister into a medibot to get a nanoupgrade, you'll have a medibot hack off your arms or gouge out your eyes or whatever to install a mechanical upgrade. It would make you think more carefully about your choices
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Quetzal-Coital posted:I just came to say happy birthday Deus Ex, you guided me through many a late night when I worked (ironically) as a security guard. http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10548 It's a pain in the butt, but that'll allow you to play DXIW in widescreen.
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I can't believe it's been ten years. I feel old.
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Pope Guilty posted:I can't believe it's been ten years. I feel old.
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puffycloud posted:http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10548 Thanks man! Will try it out later tonight. I'd played about halfway through it on the xbox before getting bored and moving on, but gonna try to power through it on the PC. It strikes me that though there are all the things that are different and horrible and just plain bad about it, the dialog is just about the same. People even speak in the same stilted way.
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