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Basic Beater posted:
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I wouldn't mind not playing IW in widescreen if you could actually run it windowed. :/ Incidentally, RPS had a whole day of people just posting "What a shame." and "A BOMB!!" while the Hivemind posted a couple of tribute articles. It was pretty fun.
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Jun 22, 2010 21:05
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Jun 22, 2010 21:21
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Basic Beater posted:
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Jun 22, 2010 21:26
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Jetsetlemming posted:JC's taken a sharp, unexpected turn towards the dark side, or at least looking like a bad guy. He looks like the loving Shredder from the 90s live action TMNT films.
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Jun 22, 2010 21:31
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Grey Fox V2 posted:Oh my god, JC! A cake! 
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Jun 22, 2010 21:53
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AXE COP posted:If Invisible War didn't have the Deus Ex name on it people would be praising it for emulating Deus Ex and being fun.
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Jun 22, 2010 22:18
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The number of loading screens in DX:IW and the amount of time they take to pass even on today's machines is really obnoxious and is what made the game frustrating to play for me. Especially since it would take me to desktop a few seconds before going into a loading screen. Super obnoxious.
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Jun 22, 2010 22:21
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Brownie posted:The number of loading screens in DX:IW and the amount of time they take to pass even on today's machines is really obnoxious and is what made the game frustrating to play for me. Especially since it would take me to desktop a few seconds before going into a loading screen. Super obnoxious. I'm not advocating "filez" here, but I found that using a no-cd crack alleviated a lot of the loading time issues and the problem of dropping to the desktop momentarily.
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Jun 22, 2010 22:27
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Brownie posted:The number of loading screens in DX:IW and the amount of time they take to pass even on today's machines is really obnoxious and is what made the game frustrating to play for me. Especially since it would take me to desktop a few seconds before going into a loading screen. Super obnoxious. This is literally the only thing keeping me from going back and playing the game again. It is the worst.
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Jun 22, 2010 22:53
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Brownie posted:The number of loading screens in DX:IW and the amount of time they take to pass even on today's machines is really obnoxious and is what made the game frustrating to play for me. Especially since it would take me to desktop a few seconds before going into a loading screen. Super obnoxious. This is happening to me on the Steam version, so I don't think the No-CD is the fix.
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Jun 22, 2010 22:58
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Steam is selling the games at a 75% discount because of the 10 year anniversary thing. 
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Jun 22, 2010 23:34
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I misplaced my copy of Invisible War some time ago and didn't like the game enough to try and replace it but for $2.50 I'm tempted. Hell, for $2.50 I'm tempted to buy Deus Ex again
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Jun 22, 2010 23:40
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So the books and datacubes at the Templar cathedral suggest that MJ12 is run like a religious order above the grunt level, and that agents give up their names and go by numbers. But the rest of the game doesn't have anything to back that up and even contradicts it. What's the deal with that?
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Jun 22, 2010 23:41
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Rusty Rickshaw posted:Off-topic, what are the best mods for Thief 2? I'm really getting into it, but I only have a few missions left. http://www.thief-thecircle.com/missions/ There's a Thief fan out there that does a spot-on Garrett impersonation, but I can't remember his name or which FMS he worked on. On-topic: Jarofmoldymayo posted:Man, like those loving MJ12 agents? They blow up! Not if you PROD them with the PROD!  Added bonus: they tend to carry biocells As an aside, for those of you that aren't very eager to play TNM, you should really give Zodiac a try. I'm a bit surprised at how little (if any?) mention it's been given in this thread. It's been a few years since I played it, but it was well done, as I recall. In a nutshell: instead of sitting around on his rear end, nursing his "bad cold" from the killswitch, Paul decides to actually make something of himself while JC is busy running around Vandenberg, etc. If I remember correctly, it meshed well with the official DX "canon".
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Jun 22, 2010 23:47
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BattleMaster posted:So the books and datacubes at the Templar cathedral suggest that MJ12 is run like a religious order above the grunt level, and that agents give up their names and go by numbers. But the rest of the game doesn't have anything to back that up and even contradicts it. What's the deal with that? I'm not sure what you mean. MJ-12's security clearances are all names of categories of angels, and they do get into some light mysticism, but that's probably just a holdover from Page and Simons' days in the Illuminati.
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Jun 22, 2010 23:55
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JC Denton. Ten years old. No residence. No ancestors. No employer. What a goony mistake you turned out to be.
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Jun 22, 2010 23:57
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Pope Guilty posted:I'm not sure what you mean. MJ-12's security clearances are all names of categories of angels, and they do get into some light mysticism, but that's probably just a holdover from Page and Simons' days in the Illuminati. I just loaded up my game and I don't have a save from that area so I'll have to go by memory. The WIB's journal says that when she was inducted as an acolyte into the order she had to give up her name and be referred to as a number instead. There's at least one more journal in the barracks that I remember as saying more stuff to that effect. The troopers' journals suggest that they think they're working for a private security firm and nothing weird though. Edit: Found a text dump, I knew I wasn't spewing bullshit! It doesn't specifically call it a religious organization but that's the vibe I got from it all. quote:Adept 34501, Order of the Night Sky, quote:Testament of Adept 34501 quote:
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Jun 23, 2010 00:01
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I'm sure this has been asked tons of times, but is the steam version compatible with shifter and biomod and stuff?
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Jun 23, 2010 00:06
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SuitDude posted:I'm sure this has been asked tons of times, but is the steam version compatible with shifter and biomod and stuff? Yup!
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Jun 23, 2010 00:08
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I bought Invisible War for $2.50 since the lovely DRM'ed copy I bought online like 4 years ago for 20 bucks is out of activations...but I feel so unclean for having done so.
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Jun 23, 2010 00:14
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SuitDude posted:I'm sure this has been asked tons of times, but is the steam version compatible with shifter and biomod and stuff? The only thing different in the Steam release is the .exe file, which includes the protection, but you'll probably end up replacing it with the Deus Exe Launcher anyways. I have mine rigged to use it, have about 10 mods installed on top of Biomod (including the beta version of New Vision) and configured so it runs nicely in 1680x1050 in DirectX 10 mode.
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Jun 23, 2010 00:16
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BattleMaster posted:So the books and datacubes at the Templar cathedral suggest that MJ12 is run like a religious order above the grunt level, and that agents give up their names and go by numbers. But the rest of the game doesn't have anything to back that up and even contradicts it. What's the deal with that?  Basically, we're lead to believe that most of the MJ-12 grunts (at least in France) were just hired mercenaries. They didn't know enough about MJ-12's real goals that loyalty and secrecy were particularly an issue. However, the "middle-management" of MJ12 needed to be firmly under Page's control since they would necessarily need to know enough about it to be potentially dangerous if they were captured or defected. Enter the P-series agents (MiBs). The datacubes you mentioned all pertained to the MiB in charge of the Cathedral deployment of MJ12. This was done through "physiopharmaceutical" augmentation as well as "psychological conditioning". In other words, they were constantly drugged and brain-washed. Giving up their name for a number is just part of that de-humanizing/de-individualizing process. Per a developer note in the DX conversation files: quote:Sometimes you'll get a M/WIB just whispering to himself, saying weird stuff. As for the religious tone, "Sidon's Vault" and the "Fountain of Wisdom" are both freemasonry references, if I'm not mistaken. MJ12 was basically just Page's rip-off of the Illuminati, after all, so it makes sense that it would take a similar masonry-esque form. I don't think you're supposed to infer that any of the MJ12 "brass" (i.e. Page, Simons, Chow, etc.) actually bought into any of it themselves -- it was just a pseudo-mystical "well kept secret" (as Dowd would put it) used to control and manipulate the P-series agents. As a related aside, there's a point in the game where you can have an odd encounter with a bum in the Free Clinic of Hell's Kitchen. When you first frob him, he says something like, "Who will help the widow's son?" After that, he'll just talk about how he won't "break the Oath" and basically refuses to say anything sensible/useful. This is another reference to Masonic symbolism. Specifically, the legend of Hiram. If you catch the reference, you're lead to believe that this guy is somehow tied to either the Illuminati or MJ12, but nothing else ever comes of the conversation, sadly. There's also a woman in there with really creepy dialogue ("By the pricking of my finger..."). The best of her lines is this: quote:When the weather changes, we'll be lost and no one will know who anyone else is anymore. Most people probably just write this off as more crazy-talk. But although I'm not totally certain, I'm fairly sure this actually an allusion to the Donner Party. On the off chance that you don't know this story, a group of settlers is crossing the mountains when the weather changes and they get snowed in by a blizzard. People freeze to death and ultimately, some of the survivors resorted to cannibalism. But the creepiness doesn't end there. See, the problem with butchering a human corpse is that it's rendered unrecognizable ... and many of the survivors were related to the deceased. They could bring themselves to eat old what's-his-face in order to survive, but no one was comfortable with the idea of eating grandpa. So supposedly, after butchering the dead, the chunks were carefully wrapped and labeled so that no one would accidentally eat their own relatives.  Have I mentioned how awesome this game is?
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Jun 23, 2010 01:04
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New title until tomorrow. Edit: And stickied.
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Jun 23, 2010 01:36
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Oh my god JC a sale. A sale. Anyone who hasn't played it now has absolutely no goddamn excuse. NO EXCUSE.
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Jun 23, 2010 01:40
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Tomorrow change it to "Deus Ex: Decennial Edition 'What a game.'"
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Jun 23, 2010 01:41
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I'm trying to use the DirectX 10 launcher for DX1 but I get huge slowdown when the main menu is over the intro sequence and when I try to get into "preferences" and then expand the DX10 tab don't get a dropdown I get "D3D10Drv.D3D10RenderDevice (failed load)" or something like that. Do I need the .exe replacement when I use the DX10 renderer too? EDIT: Nevermind, installing that redistributable seemed to fix it! StickFigs fucked around with this message at 01:53 on Jun 23, 2010 |
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Jun 23, 2010 01:47
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Well, I've done something I never thought I would do. I bought Invisible War a second time. Happy birthday, Deus Ex.  We love you. 
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Jun 23, 2010 01:52
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Welcome to the Coalition, JCs.
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Jun 23, 2010 01:55
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Stathol posted:Well, there's several aspects to this, I think. That's a pretty cool analysis, thanks. I hadn't picked up on the psychological conditioning part of their creation. Though they might do things differently in France because there are at least 2 named MIBs/WIBs. The one in the UNATCO HQ basement (he has an e-mail account), the one in the catacombs (mentioned in dialogue), and possibly the dead one in the final area of the ocean lab (he dropped a datacube with a message that might be addressed to him). I don't know, the stuff in the cathedral just seemed a tiny bit out of place.
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StickFigs posted:I'm trying to use the DirectX 10 launcher for DX1 but I get huge slowdown when the main menu is over the intro sequence and when I try to get into "preferences" and then expand the DX10 tab don't get a dropdown I get "D3D10Drv.D3D10RenderDevice (failed load)" or something like that. I got black boxes around some hud elements including the mouse cursor which seem like they would otherwise be transparent, how do I fix this?
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Zorak posted:Welcome to the Coalition, JCs. Guess we should start using our codenames.
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Tecman posted:The only thing different in the Steam release is the .exe file, which includes the protection, but you'll probably end up replacing it with the Deus Exe Launcher anyways. I have mine rigged to use it, have about 10 mods installed on top of Biomod (including the beta version of New Vision) and configured so it runs nicely in 1680x1050 in DirectX 10 mode. Awesome, thanks man I didn't know about any of this stuff
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On the anniversary of this important occasion, UNATCO reminds all agents to stick with the prod and prod with the prod.
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Jun 23, 2010 02:09
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Why should you buy Deus ex? It's all in the numbers. Number one? That's terror.
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Jun 23, 2010 02:12
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What would a Deus Ex need with electronic sales?
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Jun 23, 2010 02:15
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Happy Birthday, Deus Ex. May people keep discovering new things on their thousandth playthrough for another 10 years!
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Jun 23, 2010 02:16
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KillHour posted:Happy Birthday, Deus Ex. May people keep discovering new things on their thousandth playthrough for another 10 years! I, for example, recently discovered that there's a paper lantern in Maggie Chow's apartment which opens the door to the secret area with the you-know-what inside. A dozen times I must have played the game and I never found it, I always took the long way.
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Ainsley McTree posted:I, for example, recently discovered that there's a paper lantern in Maggie Chow's apartment which opens the door to the secret area with the you-know-what inside. A dozen times I must have played the game and I never found it, I always took the long way. I found that on my first playthrough. I was exploring her apartment, came to that corner, went "Huh? This looks out of place." and clicked it.  I had bought Maggie's sob story too, so this pretty much blew my mind.
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On my current unrealistic playthrough I found that floor panel in Alex's computer lab for the first time. I also found at least three new things on Liberty Island. Happy birthday, Deus Ex. Question: what weapon should I laser sight? I've never used one before; on previous playthroughs I've always scoped the stealth pistol. I was thinking either that or the Magnum (Shifter), but are there other useful ones?
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