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Strudel Man posted:I believe this is what you meant.
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KungfooMF posted:^^^^ That is cool to hear about Warren Spector. He may not always make the best game, but he sure as heck tries (most of the time). Warren Spector is one of the nicest, most chill guys in the video game industry, which is a little weird considering that most of the games he makes are pretty violent. He's like the industry's kind old grandfather.
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Jun 23, 2010 18:12
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That's so nice of them to leave a lockpick at the bottom of the watery shaft.
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Jun 23, 2010 18:14
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Gave a friend of mine my DX disk about a year ago in an effort to get him to play it. He never did, so I bought it for him  Edit: He probably still won't play it
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Jun 23, 2010 18:26
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That is, as they say, a shame. edit: yesterday I found out you can actually get enemies to follow you into water! Then you can hit them with a crowbar until they swim away from you until they drown. Didn't ruin my non-lethal challenge 
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Jun 23, 2010 18:35
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Jun 23, 2010 18:40
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I just started the game and finished the training. I'm working on building my character at the moment. Are there any skills that are just completely worthless? What would you recommend for a great first run through? Also, difficulty, how crazy does it get? These old games can be finicky I like my games to be challenging. Tug Grundo fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Jun 23, 2010 |
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Jun 23, 2010 18:42
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It's never particularly difficult. If you want the easy mode kill everything playthrough, invest in rifles and get ballistic protection and regeneration augs. Pistols are also useful, and you're going to want points in lockpick/electronics/computers no matter what. There are no bad choices unless you invest everything in swimming, aqualung, and environmental training. Even then you can still finish the game. Also silent running is worthless, take speed.
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Jun 23, 2010 18:47
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Swimming is considered useless, because you don't use it very often. Even then, every skill has a tangible benefit so feel free to explore your options. I had fun with a pistol/rifle setup that invested in lockpicking/electronics later on. Difficulty isn't really an issue. Save often enough and you shouldn't have any problems. e: based on your edit, you should probably just start out on realistic.
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Jun 23, 2010 18:48
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Tug Grundo posted:I just started the game and finished the training. I'm working on building my character at the moment. Are there any skills that are just completely worthless? Medicine isn't really worth it because 1/3rd of the way through the game you get an aug that lets you regnerate health Swimming is pretty worthless, you'll only use it a few times in the whole game (all optional) and later on you get an aug that lets you breathe underwater Environmental protection is maybe worth one level, to make you immune to gas grenades, otherwise it's not that great.
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Jun 23, 2010 18:48
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Just what I wanted to know, thanks!
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Jun 23, 2010 19:00
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I'd also argue heavy weapons aren't worth the investment because they're really, really rare and explosives practically one-shot anything so there's little point unless you're painfully slow and want more time disarming LAMs. I forgot where it was but if you take the GEP gun on Liberty Island (and you should because, again, rarity + instant lockpick) there's a weapons cache with like 9 rockets somewhere.
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Jun 23, 2010 19:28
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If you do heavy weapons it has to be all or nothing. You don't need explosives or low tech skill either.
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Jun 23, 2010 19:33
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I always put one level into Explosives, because without that you can't disarm grenades. Honestly, it only costs 900, and it's going to let you collect grenades from everywhere in the game where someone tried to use them as a mine. That and two levels in Computers basically what I consider the mandatory skills (although I always get a third level in Computers so the hacking timer is more lenient and I can read emails). jusion posted:in the iw /system folder open default.cfg and there are two variables you have to changes from true to false, startupfullscreen and usefullscreen. You can change the resolution in game ofc.  Which header are they under? Looked for them manually and found them in the end. Not sure why Notepad++ was returning no finds on fullscreen. :/ Thanks a lot either way! e;VVV fleshweasel posted:Train heavy weapons to advanced so you can run with one out. Lemon-Lime fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Jun 23, 2010 |
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Jun 23, 2010 21:05
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Train heavy weapons to advanced so you can run with one out. I like to have Swimming at Trained or Advanced cause I don't give a gently caress about rebreathers or aqualung and it opens up alternate routes on top of making those routes less tedious to wade through.
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Jun 23, 2010 21:08
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etalian posted:JC:Maybe you should try getting a job I have one, thanks. I recently started after moving to another state
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Jun 23, 2010 21:17
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I like to put a single level up in Medicine, it makes medkits go way, way farther and costs barely anything. Above Trained the diminishing returns don't make it worth it, however, especially since by the time you can get it to Master (90 points per kit iirc) the regen aug is available.
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Jun 23, 2010 21:29
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Ansob. posted:I always put one level into Explosives, because without that you can't disarm grenades. Honestly, it only costs 900, and it's going to let you collect grenades from everywhere in the game where someone tried to use them as a mine. What? You don't need any skillpoints in Explosives to be able to disarm those things. I always collect all the gas grenades from the Liberty Island statue and I never ever put points into that skill.
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Jun 23, 2010 21:30
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AXE COP posted:What? You don't need any skillpoints in Explosives to be able to disarm those things. I always collect all the gas grenades from the Liberty Island statue and I never ever put points into that skill. Maybe it's a shifter thing then, because I've restarted recently and without Explosives I the grenades explode in literally .5s. You get one beep, then boom. Explosives I means you can just leisurely stroll up to the grenade and take all the time in the world to disarm it.
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Jun 23, 2010 21:42
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Oh god, I forgot about how little this game autosaves. I used to quicksave all the time, but modern games have ruined me.
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Jun 23, 2010 21:52
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Ansob. posted:Maybe it's a shifter thing then, because I've restarted recently and without Explosives I the grenades explode in literally .5s. You get one beep, then boom. I never put any points into Explosives and they always beep several times before exploding, giving me plenty of time to disarm them.
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Jun 23, 2010 22:01
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:Oh god, I forgot about how little this game autosaves. I used to quicksave all the time, but modern games have ruined me. biomod is good for this also climbing up waist high objects
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Jun 23, 2010 22:24
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Has anyone done a strict melee-only game with Shifter? I'd like to do this for my first Shifter run, but I'm not sure it's possible. In vanilla, the weld points on the PRCS Wall Cloud soak an enormous amount of damage. The only way to damage them in melee is by using the DTS with max combat strength aug and max low tech weapon skill.  However, Shifter changes the DTS to 5x20 base damage instead of 1x100. Unless the weld points were also changed to soak less damage, that would make a pure melee-only game impossible. 
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Jun 23, 2010 22:28
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Stathol posted:Has anyone done a strict melee-only game with Shifter? I'd like to do this for my first Shifter run, but I'm not sure it's possible. You could put LAMs on the weld points, and then thwack them with the sword. Or you could put LAMs on the welds, and trick enemies into walking by.
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Jun 23, 2010 22:41
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...of SCIENCE! posted:Another message board I visit has someone who worked in game Q&A, he posted a thing about Deus Ex:
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Jun 23, 2010 22:45
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I cracked and brought Invisible War on Steam. I feel dirty
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Jun 23, 2010 22:45
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I just bought both because I panicked and saw the deal was ending in 6 minutes. I played Invisible War for the Xbox, I remember parts of it. Never played regular Deus Ex. How do they compare in similarity.
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Jun 23, 2010 22:59
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Tipme posted:I played Invisible War for the Xbox, I remember parts of it. Never played regular Deus Ex. How do they compare in similarity. Do people just click on the thread title and then click reply?
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Jun 23, 2010 23:02
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Tipme posted:I just bought both because I panicked and saw the deal was ending in 6 minutes. Deus Ex is that really cool guy in high school who does everything well, and Invisible War is his little brother who can't live up to him no matter how hard he tries, even if he's decent at most things too, because the older brother just does everything better.
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:Deus Ex is that really cool guy in high school who does everything well, and Invisible War is his little brother who can't live up to him no matter how hard he tries, even if he's decent at most things too, because the older brother just does everything better. Except that really even where the little brother excels, compared to the rest of the class he's still kind of awkward and has lovely loading times and tiny levels. ohgodibrokemyanalogy
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Original Deus Ex and SomethingAwful go together like the high school football all-star and the head cheerleader. They hate everyone else and make fun of the football players brother, the one that people say is mentally handicapped but is really just shy. Edit: Jesus christ, I posted a reply then realized a nearly identical post was directly above mine. GOOD JOB, ME
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Jun 23, 2010 23:08
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There was actually a moment last night where I was contemplating whether to take advantage of the the Steam deal or to buy a bag of chips. The chips won.
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Jun 23, 2010 23:19
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nickhimself posted:Original Deus Ex and SomethingAwful go together like the high school football all-star and the head cheerleader. They hate everyone else and make fun of the football players brother, the one that people say is mentally handicapped but is really just shy. Also SA doesn't realize that everyone else thinks it's a huge rear end in a top hat
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Jun 23, 2010 23:20
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Lork posted:There was actually a moment last night where I was contemplating whether to take advantage of the the Steam deal or to buy a bag of chips. Cool Hand Leukemia posted:Also SA doesn't realize that everyone else thinks it's a huge rear end in a top hat
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Jun 23, 2010 23:21
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I've been liking Invisible War so far, and that's right after doing a playthrough of the original Deus Ex. What made IW click with me is that I realized that it's kind of close to Chronicles of Riddick in terms of the levels and how cramped they are and how it kind of bottlenecks you in some cases. Ofcourse there's poo poo like the universal ammo, lack of lean, and the performance of the prod (I have to sit there and keep zapping a dude for like a minute just to knock him out?) that annoys the poo poo out of me but overall it's okay and even enjoyable in some cases. I like the Vox club level. Also wasn't there a mod to fix the universal ammo or did I just dream it up?
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Jun 23, 2010 23:25
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Grey Fox V2 posted:You dumbass.
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I've never played this game before. Decided to go through the tutorial. I accidentally tossed my pistol over the counter into the shooting range, where I'm not able to reach it anymore. Yeah, tutorial over with no saves or autosaves
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Atheist Sunglasses posted:I've never played this game before. Decided to go through the tutorial. I accidentally tossed my pistol over the counter into the shooting range, where I'm not able to reach it anymore. Yeah, tutorial over with no saves or autosaves You realize you can do the tutorial again. The whole thing takes less than five minutes.
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I just found out before that the female Alex in IW is voiced by Laura Bailey. She really is in everything 
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bartkusa posted:You could put LAMs on the weld points, and then thwack them with the sword. Lork posted:Don't get your panties in too much of a twist; I already own it. Having it on Steam would just be a convenience. I just thought it was amusing given the thread title. If you piss Paul off he sometimes barks, "you dumbass" 
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