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Hockles posted:It's just added to the list of temporary alliances/love interests/angles. What are some of the aborted angles/stables/pushes that people were most looking forward to?
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savinhill posted:I was looking forward to the crazy antics of Miz/Jericho. A pay per view pay-off match between London and Akio (Jimmy Yang!) They put on some absolutely INCREDIBLE matches on Velocity
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Jun 28, 2010 10:32
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savinhill posted:I was looking forward to the crazy antics of Miz/Jericho. Do matches count bc Benoit/Punk has gotta be up there.
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Jun 28, 2010 11:06
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Does anyone else think Regal is right near the top of the list of WWE superstar's who don't get enough time onscreen outside of the ring? To me, although Regal is a really solid wrestler, his mic skills are probably his greatest asset.
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Jun 28, 2010 12:33
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savinhill posted:What are some of the aborted angles/stables/pushes that people were most looking forward to? Not really aborted as much as a one-off tag team but a continued Mizorrison/The Brian Kendrick/Zeke alliance would have been sweet. Edit: A giant "what if" is if Regal hadn't gotten himself wellnessed during his tyrant GM push. Tonfa fucked around with this message at 12:54 on Jun 28, 2010 |
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Jun 28, 2010 12:49
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savinhill posted:I was looking forward to the crazy antics of Miz/Jericho. I like to think WWE paired up Jericho/Big Show just to show us what the aborted Jericho/Giant angle in WCW could have been. I remember that angle and in his book Jericho even brings it up saying fans were always asking him where it was supposed to go and he had no idea because management never told him. Also, I would have really liked something to have come out of Cena talking smack about the Rock awhile back. If Rock had hosted earlier this year, maybe something could have been done. But if you were gonna get Rock to wrestle, and wrestle Cena at that, I guess you don't do it on some one-shot on Raw.
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Jun 28, 2010 13:20
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Web Jew.0 posted:Velocity was the best b show ever... It really was, man.
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Jun 28, 2010 13:22
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Why exactly did Storm call it quits? I watched his match against AmDrag a few years back and he was awesome as always.
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ChampRamp posted:Why exactly did Storm call it quits? I watched his match against AmDrag a few years back and he was awesome as always. hates spending time on the road, and is pretty much devoted to spending time with his family now. he felt he accomplished all he needed to and sees no reason to wrestle full time anymore.
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Jun 28, 2010 13:39
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savinhill posted:What are some of the aborted angles/stables/pushes that people were most looking forward to?  I looked forward to Eddie Guerrero's program with Batista. Apparently they were going to give Eddie the WHC the week he died because Batista was injured. They turned Eddie completely heel beforehand and then after finally defeating Rey he proclaimed he was a changed man becoming a face (or a tweener depending how you look at it). There were subtle hints here and there of Eddie using his friendship with Batista to manipulate him, catch him unguarded and take the WHC like the smirk after their match at No Mercy and Eddie hitting Batista with a chair in the back 'by accident'. I'm not sure if they would have turned Eddie back heel again and pummel Batista to the ground kayfabe injuring him but now we will never know..
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savinhill posted:I was looking forward to the crazy antics of Miz/Jericho. I'd say when they brought Goldberg in... but we know how that ended. Ugh
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Jun 28, 2010 16:31
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way back in the day, but I always wanted a fully realized and cleverly booked Foley / Gilbert feud.
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Jun 28, 2010 16:36
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Lamuella posted:way back in the day, but I always wanted a fully realized and cleverly booked Foley / Gilbert feud. I read "Gilbert" as "Gillberg" and wholeheartedly agreed.
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Jun 28, 2010 16:48
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How/When did Vince become an in ring personality? When I stopped watching WWE as a kid he was still doing play-by-play, interviews, etc, but I didn't catch on again until well into the Attitude era in 99 and he was full on Mr. McMahon.
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oldpainless posted:Also, I would have really liked something to have come out of Cena talking smack about the Rock awhile back. If Rock had hosted earlier this year, maybe something could have been done. But if you were gonna get Rock to wrestle, and wrestle Cena at that, I guess you don't do it on some one-shot on Raw. If this happened at Wrestlemania, would it make Rock the only wrestler to have a main event at Wrestlemania with the biggest stars of three different generations(Hogan, Austin, Cena)? edit: I consider Austin and Rock equally the biggest stars of the Attitude era, to nip that stupid debate in the bud.
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Orgophlax posted:How/When did Vince become an in ring personality? When I stopped watching WWE as a kid he was still doing play-by-play, interviews, etc, but I didn't catch on again until well into the Attitude era in 99 and he was full on Mr. McMahon. If I remember correctly it was the whole Montreal screwjob thing with Bret that changed him from an announcer/official into "Mr. McMahon." The heat from the fans was so big that he decided to say gently caress it and just run with it. From the "Bret screwed Bret" interviews he gave to the promos he gave and his whole strutting power figure persona it eventually led to matches with the big faces of the time. I could be wrong but that's how I remember it going (and from what I've read) Probably one of the best decisions he's ever made for a character.
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The original "Bret Screwed Bret" speech was a weird because Vince wasn't even doing the heel act yet. It was more of a P.R. damage control type of thing where was trying to convince the audience that WWF did the right thing, while straddling kayfabe and talking about "time honored tradition." There was a really awkward period where they were dancing around the issue, briefly addressing it in vague terms and proceeding as if it had never happened. I forget how long they were in that limbo period, but I do remember them playing off the screwjob in the Austin vs. Corporate Dude Love feud, so by Spring '98 at the latest they had fully worked Montreal into the on-air WWF mythos.
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Jun 28, 2010 17:23
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Minidust posted:The original "Bret Screwed Bret" speech was a weird because Vince wasn't even doing the heel act yet. It was more of a P.R. damage control type of thing where was trying to convince the audience that WWF did the right thing, while straddling kayfabe and talking about "time honored tradition." I think the worst thing about the Screwjob is that it's now been re-enacted like twenty times.
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:I think the worst thing about the Screwjob is that it's now been re-enacted like twenty times. To use a comic book analogy, it is the Bullseye stabbing Elektra scene of professional wrestling. It was shocking and amazing at the time but every single reiteration of it just makes you go oh yeah THAT thing. Especially in (comics/wrestling) where no one ever really (dies/never comes back to work for Vince).
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Jun 28, 2010 18:26
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To add to the discussion of Vince becoming an on-air personality, he really started to appear more-and-more and develop the hardass boss persona in the lead up to and aftermath of Mike Tyson at Wrestlemania. There's a fantastic moment during Tyson's first live appearance where Austin confronts him and incites a brawl where McMahon is at ringside screaming, "YOU RUINED IT! YOU RUINED EVERYTHING!" at Austin. And after Stone Cold pinned HBK the ball was already rolling and moved effortlessly into McMahon demanding Austin becoming more corporate, and spawned the rather famous "We can do this the easy way or the hard way" promo.
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Jun 28, 2010 19:24
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:I think the worst thing about the Screwjob is that it's now been re-enacted like twenty times. I remember Russo had a big thing planned for Starrcade '99 with the Bret/Goldberg main event. Guess what it was?????????????
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:I think the worst thing about the Screwjob is that it's now been re-enacted like twenty times. The last time they did it at Breaking Point last year it didn't even lead up to anything. Vince, Teddy and Armstrong screwed Taker out of the title because they wanted to make Smackdown exciting? What?
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ColeM posted:I remember Russo had a big thing planned for Starrcade '99 with the Bret/Goldberg main event. Guess what it was????????????? It would actually be something of a project to recount all the fake screwjobs that have happened in the last thirteen years. Rock/Foley in '98 Bret Hart two different times in WCW Earl Hebner runs in after a ref bump during the Backlash '04 three-way McMahon/Michaels feud in '06 Hebner in TNA '06 Punk/Undertaker in '09 Styles/Angle '10 It may be the most utterly played-out thing in wrestling.
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:It would actually be something of a project to recount all the fake screwjobs that have happened in the last thirteen years. 
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ChampRamp posted:Why exactly did Storm call it quits? I watched his match against AmDrag a few years back and he was awesome as always. His back just couldn't take the stress of night after night bumps. The Cosby Mysteries posted:
Wasn't the whole point of the feud was that Batista kept expecting Eddie to turn on him? Like he never bought into all the stuff Eddie was doing for him?
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Minidust posted:Off the top of my head there was also Dude Love vs. Steve Blackman in April '98 (McMahon calls for the bell during an abdominal stretch). Probably only remember this one cuz I was at that Raw Also there was the "South Philly Screwjob" during the ECW reboot.
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7bq0q_chris-jericho-vs-jim-neidhart_sport Does this match count? I have no idea what the gently caress happened at the end there.
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Iskanderson posted:http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7bq0q_chris-jericho-vs-jim-neidhart_sport
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The first video I ever downloaded in my life was the "I appreciate the fact that you and the WWF care, but I also appreciate the fact that - hell - you can kiss my rear end" Austin stuns Vince, Vince goes into convulsions, security drags Austin away bit. Was Vince not an on-air heel at that point?
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Iskanderson posted:http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7bq0q_chris-jericho-vs-jim-neidhart_sport it's supposed to be a "screwjob".
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DannoMack posted:The first video I ever downloaded in my life was the "I appreciate the fact that you and the WWF care, but I also appreciate the fact that - hell - you can kiss my rear end" Austin stuns Vince, Vince goes into convulsions, security drags Austin away bit. Was Vince not an on-air heel at that point? My birthday freshman year of college *swoon* He wasn't an on air heel yet because this was before Montreal but in the middle of Austin stunning everyone in his way (Slaughter, King, JR, etc)
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The Cosby Mysteries posted:The last time they did it at Breaking Point last year it didn't even lead up to anything. Vince, Teddy and Armstrong screwed Taker out of the title because they wanted to make Smackdown exciting? What? Then Undertaker beat him pretty decisively at Hell in the Cell a month later. Very pointless in what.. the 1st? 2nd match on the card?
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I could have sworn that was right after he won the title, which would be after Montreal. When was that promo?
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CVagts posted:I could have sworn that was right after he won the title, which would be after Montreal. When was that promo? That promo was from the MSG Raw in September of 1997. This RAW also saw the return of Cactus Jack. edit: further review it was 9/22/97 not on my birthday. 
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DannoMack posted:The first video I ever downloaded in my life was the "I appreciate the fact that you and the WWF care, but I also appreciate the fact that - hell - you can kiss my rear end" Austin stuns Vince, Vince goes into convulsions, security drags Austin away bit. Was Vince not an on-air heel at that point? Not at all. In fact, I think Austin had stunned JR the previous week and Commissioner Slaughter the week before that. This was the good old days when the most popular guy in the company didn't just go after heels, he went after everyone. CVagts posted:I could have sworn that was right after he won the title, which would be after Montreal. When was that promo? http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2neyo_austin-video-shown-at-badd-blood-97_sport some bust on that guy fucked around with this message at 23:08 on Jun 28, 2010 |
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Oh right, never mind, I got my "Austin stuns McMahon" promos mixed up.
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Davros1 posted:His back just couldn't take the stress of night after night bumps. If I remember right, Eddie was really conflicted about taking opportunities to get the jump on Batista, and every time he DID try to use his normal tricks, Batista would catch him out and give him a,"Haha oh no you don't my friend!" look and Eddie couldn't help but appreciate it. I really liked the whole angle and it added just another heaping of  to learn that it was leading up to a second title run for Eddie till he died.
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Since Mccool allegedly got married to Taker this weekend, I'm wondering when Undertaker got divorced from Sara.
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Wikipedia fails to give the answer, though they do say that Sara was his second wife, something I did not know. A question regarding tag team matches involving the world champion, where the stip is that the winner of the fall wins the championship. How many times has the finish been the tag team partner of the champion winning the title?
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