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stgdz
Nov 3, 2006

158 grains of smiley powered justice
So what should the DRZ's be selling for? Most of the ones I see on CL are like the miata's I see 2005's to 2009's all selling for the same price.

5 grand

There have been a couple of husabergs and husky's showing up for 5 and under(the husa was 4200). I think the DRZ crowd is kinda nuts around here to be asking for prices like that but are the euro's maintenance monsters? Most of them are the 510's.

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FlerpNerpin
Apr 17, 2006


stgdz posted:

So what should the DRZ's be selling for? Most of the ones I see on CL are like the miata's I see 2005's to 2009's all selling for the same price.

5 grand

There have been a couple of husabergs and husky's showing up for 5 and under(the husa was 4200). I think the DRZ crowd is kinda nuts around here to be asking for prices like that but are the euro's maintenance monsters? Most of them are the 510's.

5 grand is way to much to pay for a DRZ unless it is practically brand new. 3-4k is what you should be expecting to pay for a nice DRZ with mods.

Husabergs are freaking awesome, but yes, maintenance is more prevalent. A husky 510 is not a street bike. It's street legal, but that's not really the same thing. 1.3 gallon gas tank, no key, etc... it's a race bike.

Husaberg did make a more streetable Enduro/SM bike... the 5 something? I'm not terribly familiar with their bikes. Husky's street bikes start with the 6 series really, 610 and the new 630 are meant for the street. KTM, same deal, 6 series. 5 if your a bit mad.

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

What's the deal with the duke, super duke, duke II

Hot Buttered
Apr 27, 2008

...check it and see!

Christoff posted:

What's the deal with the duke, super duke, duke II

Not sure what you mean by that, but the original Duke, Duke II, and 690 Duke are slightly more street oriented than a supermoto, somewhere between a supermoto and a sport bike. The Super Duke is mainly just loving bananas and bears very little resemblance to the others.

I would seriously consider murder in order to acquire a Super Duke.

FlerpNerpin
Apr 17, 2006


Christoff posted:

What's the deal with the duke, super duke, duke II

What are you looking for here?

Think of Dukes as supermotos with less ground clearance and morr street frendly rides. Slightly less insane but more day to day friendly while giving you almost all the benifits of a full SM.

Think pf a superduke as one of the most badass and fun streetbikes money can buy. An everyday bike. This is what i was going to buy until i found a deal on a Street Fighter i couldnt pass up.

Gnaghi
Jan 25, 2008

Is this a good first bike?

Spiffness posted:

What are you looking for here?

Think of Dukes as supermotos with less ground clearance and morr street frendly rides. Slightly less insane but more day to day friendly while giving you almost all the benifits of a full SM.

Think pf a superduke as one of the most badass and fun streetbikes money can buy. An everyday bike. This is what i was going to buy until i found a deal on a Street Fighter i couldnt pass up.

So then what are the 990 "supermoto" T and R supposed to be? KTM puts them in the same category as the 690SMC on their site, yet they seem even less like a supermoto than the duke.

FlerpNerpin
Apr 17, 2006


Youd be right. I use the term megamoto. Too heavy to be a real SM but the same idea. They dont ride quite like traditional standards, being very upright and aggressive handling, but they arent real supermotos either. You get ground clearance but the weight and 115 HP means tight sm tracks are not your home, but give them some backroads and theyll show their worth.

Again, very everyday-able.

The SMT is a touring kit megamoto.

Gnaghi
Jan 25, 2008

Is this a good first bike?
OK now I get it. KTM needs one of those "which bike is right for you" calculators on their site (and more dealers).

Edit: They're looking fairly capable too.

Gnaghi fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Jun 28, 2010

ari.gato
Aug 13, 2003
I was having the same conundrum about the Duke line. Right now I'm heavily leaning towards the Duke 690 SM, but there are a couple of super dukes available on CL in my area right now as well. Decisions, decisions.

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

Hot Buttered posted:

Not sure what you mean by that, but the original Duke, Duke II, and 690 Duke are slightly more street oriented than a supermoto, somewhere between a supermoto and a sport bike. The Super Duke is mainly just loving bananas and bears very little resemblance to the others.

I would seriously consider murder in order to acquire a Super Duke.

Gotcha. I doubt the bike will ever see dirt but it would see rugged terrain here and there and the occasional high speed off a curb or speed bump and other super moto sillyness. I just wasn't sure what the dukes were all about. That's what I'm leaning towards. What do you guys think? I'm literally looking to buy this Friday.


It's a little pricey all things considered but this is the one I'm considering

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/mcy/1814483151.html

Also:

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/mcy/1797885254.html

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/mcy/1805933767.html

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/mcy/1806736444.html

Being half Austrian if I get a KTM I can fly a mini Austrian flag off the tail end of the bike, correct? And maybe a sticker here and there?

Nostalgia4Dogges fucked around with this message at 02:39 on Jun 29, 2010

Drunk Pledge Driver
Nov 10, 2004
Definitely go for that last one. I'm very tempted to sell my Grand National to get a motard. I really like the Duke IIs but I can't stand that grey color. The green is merely ok. I'd really like one in white although that's not a factory color. Also I can't stand the stock cast wheels especially in silver. 625 SMCs for some reason seem hold their value a lot higher and people are even asking for more than some of the cheaper 690s which confuses me.

Hot Buttered
Apr 27, 2008

...check it and see!
As the owner of a Duke II, I much prefer the styling of the Duke line to that of the supermotos. But out of those linked, I'd have to go with the last one, just for the refinement of the 690 LC4 over the 640. If you're still thinking about it, I would seriously recommend a test ride on a Duke II up to freeway speeds to see if it's the bike for you. If you're cool with that experience, the bike's a lot of fun. That first one has about every good mod you can do to the bike.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Post the DRZedest videos u got.

Gotta love the ankle-cam http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZr6e4rl-Pw

AncientTV
Jun 1, 2006

for sale custom bike over a billion invested

College Slice

Phat_Albert posted:

Post the DRZedest videos u got.

Probably a repost, but gently caress it, this video is still rad :hellyeah:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYu7DQn5vAI&playnext_from=TL&videos=8rLZA57jCe8

off topic: how the hell do you embed youtube videos?

Zool
Mar 21, 2005

The motard rap
for all my riders
at the track
Dirt hardpacked
corner workers better
step back
I went to watch :( a Supermoto race this weekend.


The fastest guy out there got pretty darn sideways.

Slim Pickens
Jan 12, 2007

Grimey Drawer

AncientTV posted:

Probably a repost, but gently caress it, this video is still rad :hellyeah:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYu7DQn5vAI&playnext_from=TL&videos=8rLZA57jCe8

off topic: how the hell do you embed youtube videos?

put video in []'s, and close like any other code.

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm

AncientTV posted:

Probably a repost, but gently caress it, this video is still rad :hellyeah:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYu7DQn5vAI&playnext_from=TL&videos=8rLZA57jCe8

off topic: how the hell do you embed youtube videos?

That.. was loving awesome. :wtf:

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




AncientTV posted:

Probably a repost, but gently caress it, this video is still rad :hellyeah:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYu7DQn5vAI&playnext_from=TL&videos=8rLZA57jCe8

off topic: how the hell do you embed youtube videos?

That video should be GIF'ed and made into the background of Cycle Asylum

pr0zac
Jan 18, 2004

~*lukecagefan69*~


Pillbug

Phat_Albert posted:

That video should be GIF'ed and made into the background of Cycle Asylum

Here ya go.

Primo Itch
Nov 4, 2006
I confessed a horrible secret for this account!

Phat_Albert posted:

That video should be GIF'ed and made into the background of Cycle Asylum

pr0zac posted:

Here ya go.


Pretty please sigtrap ? :ohdear:

Kenny Rogers
Sep 7, 2007

Chapter One:
When I first saw Sparky, he reminded me of my favorite comb. He was missing a lot of teeth.

Primo Itch posted:

Pretty please sigtrap ? :ohdear:

Oh, gently caress no. Not a fan of motion sickness while reading.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Jabs posted:

Oh, gently caress no. Not a fan of motion sickness while reading.

It would only show outside of the post boxes.

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

Sorry to cross post this but I'm looking to buy tomorrow

So I was all set to buy my 07 sumo 690 and everything but the guy who was originally going to purchase it just went by and offered him more than he was asking.

loving.

I'm impatient and I'm considering the 01 duke I was talking about before. Maybe I can lowball him $3,500.

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/mcy/1816625433.html

Otherwise what do you guys think of the following?

http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/mcy/1820565435.html

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/mcy/1807822342.html

Way out of my price range, though. Could offer less....


http://bakersfield.craigslist.org/mcy/1787840826.html

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/mcy/1789150665.html

http://sandiego.craigslist.org/esd/mcy/1816460202.html

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/mcy/1805933767.html

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/mcy/1797885254.html

Sorry for all the questions but I'm really clueless about these bikes. Again, I'm only home on the weekends so don't really have the time or patience to shop around.

FlerpNerpin
Apr 17, 2006


There isn't a bike there I wouldnt love to own. You really cant go wrong.

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

Spiffness posted:

There isn't a bike there I wouldnt love to own. You really cant go wrong.

wih some creative craigslist searchingI actually found the same year model. 07 690 with 8k miles. Has extended warranty to 2012, Leo veo exhaust or whatever, remapped ecu for exhaust, and k&n filter. Its a lot farther away but he said he'd meet half way and take 5.3 instead of 5,750 so I think I'll go with that :)

FlerpNerpin
Apr 17, 2006


Well you've done the wise man thing and spent a bit more money for a whole lot more supermoto. You're going to love it.

Zool
Mar 21, 2005

The motard rap
for all my riders
at the track
Dirt hardpacked
corner workers better
step back
Get the stock exhaust along with it if he has it. My 690 SMC came with a Leo Vince exhaust, and a 'remapped' stock ecu. It was noticeably down on power until I put the stock exhaust on. Unless it has a power commander or tuneboy the Leo Vince exhaust will cost you power. Other than that, go for it.

Actually gently caress that you should get one of these.

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/mcy/1814064945.html

http://www.supermotojunkie.com/showthread.php?t=91000

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
That CR500...:fap:

ari.gato
Aug 13, 2003

God that's EXACTLY the bike I want. Just no money for it right now.

Valfar
Nov 12, 2004

Born to lose, live to win.
I like my SM because it's so easy to work on :v:


Managed to gently caress up one of the oil drain plugs, and no matter what I did I could not get that fucker out. It was leaking oil all over the place so I couldn't leave it, and since there's three of them I figured what the hell, why not just JB Weld it!


About 150/200 miles later and not a drop! I'll probably start changing the oil a bit more often, but that's just fun really.

Valfar fucked around with this message at 00:07 on Jul 3, 2010

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

Well, it's settled.


Impulse buying this one for $5,300 tomorrow!

I think I have an Austrian flag to fly off the tail somewhere...


http://bakersfield.craigslist.org/mcy/1804395475.html

Liability or full coverage? I heard full is a lot more on these bikes. Or maybe just bikes in general.

Nostalgia4Dogges fucked around with this message at 21:28 on Jul 2, 2010

pr0zac
Jan 18, 2004

~*lukecagefan69*~


Pillbug
God dammit I hate you 690 buying jerks. I'm seriously considering selling off the 929 and the DRZ and picking one up now. My girlfriend is going to murder me.

ReelBigLizard
Feb 27, 2003

Fallen Rib

pr0zac posted:

God dammit I hate you 690 buying jerks. I'm seriously considering selling off the 929 and the DRZ and picking one up now. My girlfriend is going to murder me.

One of us. One of us. One o-

FlerpNerpin
Apr 17, 2006


Yes. Join us.

cmorrow001
Feb 22, 2003
apparently I shouldn't ask about pirating Windows
Changed the main jet out and the bike runs great! I'm super excited. I've been riding it every day since.

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

So can someone explain to me the art of turning on a sumo as best you can. Coming from a sport bike I'm used to leaning. I was watching my friend and trying different things. It seems you can just push down on the handlebars while staying relatively upright. Then actually leaning which didn't seem to comfortable. Then lastly on the tighter hairpin turns sticking a foot out and pushing the bars down? Up to what sped would I want a foot out. Or is it all just case by case.

I saw one of the sumo schools are nearby I think I'll definenlty do one.


That all being said I absolutely love mine.

Dubs
Mar 6, 2007

Stroll Own Zone.
Disregard Stroll outside zone.
Brake HARD, Transfer a bunch of weight onto the front wheel and lighten the rear, planting the appropriate knee into position hard up on the tank.
Grab the clutch and dump it down 3 gears.
Weight pegs, tip it in. Rev match, release clutch hard, let go of brakes slowly as it tips in. Apply a bunch of throttle.

Power wheely out of turn to stand bike back up.


There's nothing particularly different about getting a sumo turn than a sport bike. Its just that due to the more aggressive geom and lighter weight it can turn in so so much easier. You can weight the front wheel more than on a sporty but its not essential to the successful turn in of the bike.

There is counter-leaning (and foot-out, foot in) but that's another subject, so really do the same as the sporty,(turn the bars, weight pegs, shift bodyweight), just don't yank it hard and land face down on the pavement.
Leaning shouldn't feel uncomfortable or anything.

FlerpNerpin
Apr 17, 2006


Keeping your body more upright and pushing the SM underneath you is also a viable way to maneuver in very tight corners or tight switchbacks. Foot out vs knee out? Basic rule of thumb for most people (but its a completely subjective thing) is long sweepers get the knee, tight corners get the foot out, medium corners you basically just pretty much stay up with the bike, little bit of weight transferred to the inside.

You'll start putting your foot out on corners where you constantly drag your peg or hit your boot on the ground. That's where I go foot out, anywhere I'm otherwise likely to bury my foot into the ground.

pr0zac
Jan 18, 2004

~*lukecagefan69*~


Pillbug
Be careful with the foot out thing also. If you're foot catches on something its a great way to break an ankle.

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FlerpNerpin
Apr 17, 2006


pr0zac posted:

Be careful with the foot out thing also. If you're foot catches on something its a great way to break an ankle.

You aren't dragging your foot, you are just hovering your heel a few inches above the pavement. Toes up. If you are hitting crap with your feet your are choosing a terrible place to stick your leg out.

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