chesh posted:

If only getting any sort of social service assistance was as simple as these people make it out to be. A friend of mine recently lost his job and I was kind of mortified to learn that he can't get unemployment for 5 to 8 weeks after his termination.

RagnarokAngel posted:

Yeah the myth of the welfare queen is one of the most perturbing ones in the Conservative mythology. None of them have ever seen one but they totally exist you guys!!!

RagnarokAngel posted:

Yeah the myth of the welfare queen is one of the most perturbing ones in the Conservative mythology. None of them have ever seen one but they totally exist you guys!!!

BonoMan posted:

Part of it is because there are people who do abuse the system and what happens is people see them receiving thousands of dollars in checks they feel they shouldn't be getting and then think that all of a sudden they're cashing thousand dollar checks every other day or something. People getting 5 thousand dollars a year they probably shouldn't be getting DOES suck, but that's not a lot money to really do anything with in the long run.

Dameius posted:

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In God We Trust

Born 1776, Died 2008
It doesn't hurt to read this several times.

Click here for the full 637x389 image.

Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law in St. Paul, Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning last November's Presidential election:


Number of States won by: Obama: 19 McCain: 29
Square miles of land won by: Obama: 580,000 McCain: 2,427,000
Population of counties won by: Obama: 127 million McCain: 143 million
Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Obama: 13.2 McCain: 2.1
Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory McCain won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of the country. Obama territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in low income tenements and living off various forms of government welfare..."

Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the "complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase.

If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal invaders called illegals - and they vote - then we can say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years.

If you are in favor of this, then by all means, delete this message.

If you are not, then pass this along to help everyone realize just how much is at stake, knowing that apathy is the greatest danger to our freedom.

Sir Plus posted:

There's only one person who I receive these e-mails from and I've noticed a trend among all of them. They seem to adopt one of three attitudes - frothing at the mouth angry, smugly pointing out the extreme right wing (white race) superiority, or this last one, which I really enjoy the most, where they adopt this 'scientific grandpa' personality. The "Well if you want your country to go to hell, I guess that's your business........" type. Anyway:

Zwabu posted:

I find it interesting when they cite a real person as the author who can easily be checked out. The Hamline professor has disavowed this, plus the email actually uses election numbers from the 2004 presidential election with "Obama" and "McCain" obviously cut/pasted in.

Even though they wouldn't care, if someone sent me this poo poo, I'd reply all with the 2004 and 2008 election data complete with links and make fun of them for recycling a several year old email and being too lazy to even put in new data (although the 2008 data is bad enough for Republicans in terms of states and everything else that it totally doesn't fit the rest of the content).

Also, how do the wingnut false attributers pick the person they want to say wrote the email? Just go to a list of university websites and pick someone from the history or polisci department and stick their name there? What the hell is the thought process there? Obviously they know their primary audience will "believe" the content (especially if the email is bolstered by pics of Obama looking smug) and never check it out, so they're safe there.

Zwabu posted:

I find it interesting when they cite a real person as the author who can easily be checked out. The Hamline professor has disavowed this, plus the email actually uses election numbers from the 2004 presidential election with "Obama" and "McCain" obviously cut/pasted in.

Arglebargle III posted:

Isn't that the one that was copy/pasted from 2000 anyway?

Arglebargle III posted:

Isn't that the one that was copy/pasted from 2000 anyway?

MOLLUSC posted:

Why does it matter who won more uninhabited land anyway? Obama won the electoral college and popular vote so there is literally no argument to be had there.

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AND THANK YOU TO EVERYONE ELSE WHO TAKES TIME TO VIEW THIS.
May we see peace in our time. Amen.


Every Jewish person on the planet should watch this....

(actually, every PERSON on the planet should watch this)

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=ZprVPKi-W6s

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okay, i really don't care what political party you "lean toward" and/or how YOU feel the situation described in the YOUTUBE vid coming up.....
I am from NYC (sorta), but more than anything.... ANYTHING, i have been terrified by just this kinda thing since about 1972 when i'd been introduced by my (at the time) boyfriend to one of HIS friends with whom he'd gone to medical school, gone through residency (in India) and then suddenly met up him again in America where they were both repeating their residency (due to a coupla american laws and the ECFMG test which ferriners MUST take in order to be able to call themselves doctors...EVEN if they're american citizens who went to medical school in another country than america because for some reason they couldn't get into an american med school.
ANYWAY (i digress, sorry); anyway, one night this guy came to dinner at our tiny apartment in new britain, CT and he'd brought his koran with him (sorry, i REFUSE to use the arabic word for that book) WAIT!! i am NOT sorry.
anyways, after dinner, being jewish and knowing muslims follow the same dietary laws as jews: no pork, no shellfish, only certain cuts of beef, like no tenderloin, etc....i'd made a simple vegetarian indian dish (my boyfriend was/is indian===he's no longer my b/f and he IS my ex-husband)... we sat down in our "living room"---our apt. was SO small we actually had a small kitchen, a bathroom (of course), a teeny space which i really cannot call a living room, but we did have a small sofa, a chair, and the TV.
so, here we were sitting in the LVR and this guy starts spouting BS from his book.

having lived in new york most of my life, i KNEW i could find/learn about almost anything in the world AND have the opportunity to actually meet the people who wrote the books; NEW YORK CITY was a form of the internet years before the real one came along. i became quite dissatisfied with the jewish religion because when i asked the rabbi questions that bothered me, he couldn't come up with answers which satisfied my curiosity!! and so off i went, visiting all sects of christianity, islam (yeah, there was ALREADY a mosque in the 60s in NYC... very alarming, yes?
anyway, then i studied hinduism... and this is WAY before i met my bf husband to be. hinduism called to me the loudest; islam scared the shi*t outta me..... and thus............

my bf's friend told me things i HAD NOT found in my readings, such as: mohammed had ruled that islam would follow parts of the old testament, like moses, abraham, and methusela (oh, and this is where the dietary laws they "borrowed" from the jews comes in); and he ruled that parts of the new testament, like jesus christ and his mom, mary, and all those apostles, etc., etc.; and, lastly, mo ruled 'his people' would follow laws mo put forth, two of which are REALLY scary.... like: ppl of islam do NOT and NEVER SHALL be friends with ppl who are NOT muslims AND the one which REALLY gives me nightmares: muslims' MAIN and SINGULAR purpose of existence is to destroy ALL infidels unless they agree to convert to islam ideals.... thus, women would be oppressed, men would become the superiour "superman" of the family/community and even young boys from ages 7 or even younger are taught how to shoot guns to KILL THE INFIDELS!! oh, by the way.... just in case you don't know what the INFIDEL means.. ANYONE WHO IS NOT MUSLIM IS THE INFIDEL! in the jewish religion, those who are not jewish are called "gentiles." well, that is... i was called a gentile by a mormon couple.... got me by the throat they did... all i could do was stare at them and wonder just how far they were in space!

well, hell.... now that you all know more about me than you ever wanted to know... i was just trying to 'set-up' the scenario so when you're watching the video (youtube) it'll make it easier for you to understand what the guy is talking about........ IF the guy speaking had managed to inform his audience the location or the website where one could go and join the protest... that woulda been great; unfortunately, he did not and there was NO other way, except, perhaps, to google the ALMOST info.... but i'll set myself down and tell you all...... if i could get myself to new york, i'd be a part of the protest... and i'll say, i wish i had money and/or power cuz i would make myself heard......... i did it in the 60s, but THIS... this is ever so much WORSE than an illegal war happening half a world away.

last thought: i really thought the pacific islands (tonga, tahiti, hawaii, fiji, etc.) would be the next area to 'go down' because indonesia was taken over by muslims.... very silently, very quickly, VERY SCARY..... but now i say, i was wrong....... now i say: continental US is gonna be the next place to "go down"...
WE CANNOT ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN!!!!!!!!
so, again, i say, it doesn't matter what religion you follow nor what political beliefs you have.... if you care about your country.... YOU MUST not allow THEM to take OUR COUNTRY!!!!!!! there are already so many americans, MEN, of course, since they benefit the most by converting: bigamy and/or polygamy, the right to kill anyone who opposes you, etc.

ever since i met that man... who, god help us is supposedly a doctor... although, my bf--ex-husband told me there were MANY muslims who would go to india and their daddy's MONEY bought them a diploma and the license to be a doctor... most didn't even bother to attend the classes---if THAT doesn't scare you, well, there's something wrong with you...... and i cannot see it because i KNOW ALL OF YOU........this is why i send you this kind of things because I KNOW you will be empathic about this... IF you can get yourself to new york OR cali OR minnesota OR texas OR ANY WHERE our country... US people are being threatened of our very existence, especially we women........I KNOW you will act!!!!!!!!
and all of you who are so up in arms (so to speak) about the mexicans coming to america... the muslim threat is SO MUCH more DEADLY!!!!!!!!!!!!

ok. i'll stop, but i just HAD to tell you where i am, how i feel, what i will do to PREVENT this and all the other threats to we americans.....so, okay i've told you and i know you all well enough to say im not gonna lose your friendship because we are ALL alike when it comes to this kinda thing!!!!!!

ok.. i'll get off the soapbox now. i apologise if i bored the sh*t outta you...but you know, you could have just deleted me OR skipped the message altogether and went directly to the gist of this message... you know, the "meaty" part. ;o)

Some very serious info here.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxFzFIDbKpg

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yeah, there was ALREADY a mosque in the 60s in NYC... very alarming, yes?

Childlike Empress posted:

Oh hey, an e-mail from mom. Oh sh

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last thought: i really thought the pacific islands (tonga, tahiti, hawaii, fiji, etc.) would be the next area to 'go down' because indonesia was taken over by muslims.... very silently, very quickly, VERY SCARY..... but now i say, i was wrong....... now i say: continental US is gonna be the next place to "go down"...
WE CANNOT ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN!!!!!!!!

Childlike Empress posted:

Oh hey, an e-mail from mom. Oh sh

crime fighting hog posted:

holy poo poo

Dameius posted:

Brennanite posted:

That is an amazing amount of crazy, CE. I don't know why, but her instance that "Koran" is not an Arabic word stands out to be the most. Where does she think it comes from? Finnish?

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ANYWAY (i digress, sorry);

euphronius posted:

Oh god the ellipses! What is with the ellipses!

This is my favorite part


Muslim invasion!

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Supreme Court Strikes Down Chicago Gun Ban
Chicago Gun Ban Case to Determine Gun Rights For All States

The ruling struck down the Chicago handgun ban, thus opening the door to legal self-defense by Windy City residents. Alan M. Gottlieb joined attorney Alan Gura and Chicago resident Otis McDonald on the steps of the United States Supreme Court TODAY and heard the court's ruling in the historic McDonald v. City of Chicago gun rights case filed by SAF, the Illinois State Rifle Association and four Chicago residents.

The U.S. Supreme Court heard the case to decide whether the right to keep and bear arms secured by the Second Amendment protects Americans from overreaching state and local governments.


The Supreme Court case is of paramount importance to American citizens, to see that their constitutional rights are respected not only by the Congress, but by state and local governments.

Death Toll Mounts in Chicago

Fifty-two people shot, eight of them fatally in a single Chicago weekend, yet Mayor Richard Daley appears poised to go down screaming in his opposition to the Second Amendment Foundation's lawsuit to overturn his city's handgun ban.

Chicago has become a slaughterhouse where defenseless victims are terrorized by armed thugs who have taken full advantage of an unarmed populace. Daley and his predecessors who perpetuated this ban are wading knee-deep in the blood of hundreds of crime victims who should have had the means to defend themselves.

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The U.S. Supreme Court struck down Chicago's handgun ban, so the city will likely do what Washington, D.C., did when its own ban was overturned two years ago: Put in place all sorts of restrictions to make it tougher to buy guns and easier for police to know who has them.

Prospective gun owners in D.C. now are required to take expensive training courses that include spending one hour on a firing range (there isn't one in D.C.) and several hours in a classroom learning about so called gun safety. They also must pass a 20 question test based on D.C.'s highly restrictive firearm laws.

They also have to be fingerprinted, pay huge fees and jump many other hurdles.

Chicago Mayor Richard Daley says he's encouraged by what he sees in D.C. and vows not go down without a fight.

Year after year the statistics have piled up yet Mayor Daley has stubbornly defended the city's ban. While he has luxuriated at his vacation home with the safety of armed bodyguards, the bodies of Chicago crime victims have stacked up like cordwood.

Monday we should have a ruling from the Supreme Court that puts an end to this insanity, and gives the citizens of Chicago back their right to defend themselves. Daley thinks his constituents should be content to call 911 and wait for help to arrive while they're being shot, stabbed, raped, robbed or beaten. Those crimes happen fast, and when seconds count, Chicago police are minutes away.

We took Daley to court because we trust his citizens more than he does with their self-defense rights. Chicago residents have endured the terror of public disarmament for almost three decades, and all they have to show for it is a body count. Mayor Daley should be ashamed.

The Second Amendment Foundation (SAF) was delighted to bring this case in cooperation with the Illinois State Rifle Association and the four local plaintiffs. We are in this fight because a gun ban is no less onerous to civil rights in Chicago than it was in the District of Columbia. Such a law cannot be allowed to stand unchallenged.

We WON but protecting our gun rights is expensive and it's impossible to put a price tag on. This time freedom will cost $250,000 to defend your Second Amendment rights in this challenge by Chicago to ban guns. SAF stands firmly committed to defend these rights and we are asking you to stand with us and we need your help to stop the anti-freedom extremists now!

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cheerfullydrab posted:

Why does it matter at all how you spell a transliteration?

Childlike Empress posted:

The amazing thing is that she actually talks like this too.

My wife has grown smart over the years, and strongly encourages me to keep my communications and visits with mom to a minimum.

Naet posted:

entirety of the Old Testament where people are murdered left and right in the name of God.

Childlike Empress posted:

Oh hey, an e-mail from mom. Oh sh

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islam scared the shi*t outta me

CEs Mom posted:

ppl of islam do NOT and NEVER SHALL be friends with ppl who are NOT muslims AND the one which REALLY gives me nightmares: muslims' MAIN and SINGULAR purpose of existence is to destroy ALL infidels unless they agree to convert to islam ideals.... thus, women would be oppressed, men would become the superiour "superman" of the family/community and even young boys from ages 7 or even younger are taught how to shoot guns to KILL THE INFIDELS!! oh, by the way.... just in case you don't know what the INFIDEL means.. ANYONE WHO IS NOT MUSLIM IS THE INFIDEL! in the jewish religion, those who are not jewish are called "gentiles." well, that is... i was called a gentile by a mormon couple.... got me by the throat they did... all i could do was stare at them and wonder just how far they were in space!

UltraPenguinX posted:

the whole "kill everyone who is not muslim" as their main tenant seems a bit far fetched.

UltraPenguinX posted:

Err, I'm no expert on religions, but is there any validity to this? I think that there's some stuff in there about women being inferior to men, but the whole "kill everyone who is not muslim" as their main tenant seems a bit far fetched.

Also, that post has more periods than a... a... a tampon store. I'm sorry, I couldn't think of anything more clever

Mordiceius posted:

I swear that my stepdad signs me up to this gun rights mailing lists as a giant troll effort:


There were about 20 "give us money" links I removed.