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GregNorc posted:But would I be crazy to keep this as a worst case scenario backup plan? (if private employment doesn't turn up, and I don't get into any of the grad programs I want to) Do you really need to come in to this thread every few months with a new law plan? Talk to your cousin, not this thread. Ask him if there will definitely be a spot for you when you graduate even if you go to a lovely law school. I have relatives who are lawyers, some who are in positions of power - it doesn't always mean anything. If you aren't close cousins, it's possible he'd rather save his favors and use his position of power for people other than you. If he says yes, you're welcome at his firm and you are happy doing that kind of work, then sure, why not? If you'd be happy doing personal injury stuff in general, then you can always go solo if it doesn't work out.
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TyChan posted:I think some of those insane hours involve the billable "waiting around" time that comes with legal work, like camping out at the printers with the bankers or waiting for 2+ hours before your annoying opposing counsel actually arrives for a court-scheduled conference. Lykourgos posted:yeh, that's what he wrote, they're crushing her soul.
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HooKars posted:I'm convinced that God just sits up there and laughs at me. Over the last couple years I've befriended a Duke alum in the market I had been planning on going to (until I broke up with my gf). Monday the alum emails me asking me if I'm free for lunch on Wednesday, because they just had a partner meeting that day and decided they wanted to hire on some class of 2011 folks when they graduate. After lunch the alum directs me to the managing partner's office. Apparently they want to hire me when I graduate... Hilarious.
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HiddenReplaced posted:Over the last couple years I've befriended a Duke alum in the market I had been planning on going to (until I broke up with my gf). Monday the alum emails me asking me if I'm free for lunch on Wednesday, because they just had a partner meeting that day and decided they wanted to hire on some class of 2011 folks when they graduate. After lunch the alum directs me to the managing partner's office. Apparently they want to hire me when I graduate... What the F is with people getting interviews and jobs and being top 5% in their class (high five Sigmachiev!) around here lately...
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HiddenReplaced posted:Over the last couple years I've befriended a Duke alum in the market I had been planning on going to (until I broke up with my gf). Monday the alum emails me asking me if I'm free for lunch on Wednesday, because they just had a partner meeting that day and decided they wanted to hire on some class of 2011 folks when they graduate. After lunch the alum directs me to the managing partner's office. Apparently they want to hire me when I graduate... Grats. Get it in paper.
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Baruch Obamawitz posted:I'm still trying to convince my boss that applying Bilski invalidates all software patents, but he's not biting yet. Just wait for the CLE. Also, Groklaw has analysis: http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100629014657710 And so does Prawfsblawg: http://prawfsblawg.blogs.com/prawfsblawg/2010/06/bilski-and-thankfully-continued-uncertainty-in-patentable-subject-matter.html#more
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Spent every day this week doing research for an SD motion my judge is hearing on Friday. Medical malpractice, and it's not this doctor's first time down that particular road, either -- he has a fair few and from a cursory glance some of the others may not have been unfounded. Then I figured out I have a family member that goes to this particular doctor. Awkward!
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Alaemon posted:Spent every day this week doing research for an SD motion my judge is hearing on Friday. Medical malpractice, and it's not this doctor's first time down that particular road, either -- he has a fair few and from a cursory glance some of the others may not have been unfounded. My dad has a med/mal firm, and I found out through it that a neurosurgeon that was a family friend and attended my bar mitzvah got busted for molesting patients while they were knocked out. Even more awkward: I found out once that a girl I cybered in a MUD back in like 1996 (I was 13) was an insurance adjuster my dad knew.
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Alaemon posted:
A friend of mine who does primarily plaintiffs' med mal had his first heart attack at 50, got rushed to the hospital, and who should treat him but a doc that he tried a three week case against about two months prior. Awkward!
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SWATJester posted:Even more awkward: I found out once that a girl I cybered in a MUD back in like 1996 (I was 13) was an insurance adjuster my dad knew. ...how did you find this out? What sort of conversation leads to this sort of information?
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SWATJester posted:Even more awkward: I found out once that a girl I cybered in a MUD back in like 1996 (I was 13) was an insurance adjuster my dad knew. Was it actually a female?
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Dallan Invictus posted:Guess who lucked out. Congrats! Was this through FSWEP? DOJ is my #1 articling location too, their rotation is amazing and they had a 100% hireback rate this year (14/14).
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SWATJester posted:My dad has a med/mal firm, and I found out through it that a neurosurgeon that was a family friend and attended my bar mitzvah got busted for molesting patients while they were knocked out. M-M-Mr. Bungles??
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CmdrSmirnoff posted:Congrats! Was this through FSWEP? The position I lost out on last fall was through FSWEP, but the counsel that interviewed me liked me enough that they decided to bring me on now anyway without going through FSWEP or PSR. I blew my chance at DOJ Ottawa because my second reference decided to take way too goddamn long to write their letter, but I might be able to get in through a secondment from some other federal position, or apply to one of the regional offices and get in that way. It'd be a bloody dream job, I agree. God, I wish articling apps didn't need to be so ridiculously far ahead of start time. Blehhh.
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entris posted:...how did you find this out? What sort of conversation leads to this sort of information? We were talking in the MUD and she mentioned that she was going to a certain convention. I said "Oh really, my dad is hosting a convention in that city." She was like "....your dad is XXXXXXX?" I thought "oh poo poo." ManiacClown posted:Was it actually a female? Yes, and apparently she'd actually met me several times and had known me since I was like 5.
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SWATJester posted:Yes, and apparently she'd actually met me several times and had known me since I was like 5. I think life would be much better if moments like this were accompanied by the "failure" music from the Price is Right: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A
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SWATJester posted:We were talking in the MUD and she mentioned that she was going to a certain convention. I said "Oh really, my dad is hosting a convention in that city." She was like "....your dad is XXXXXXX?" I thought "oh poo poo." MUDs are where nerds go to lose their virginity
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Alaemon posted:I think life would be much better if moments like this were accompanied by the "failure" music from the Price is Right: I have the horns on my phone for just such occasions.
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Me: Ok CL, our court date is 7/15 at 9:00. Try to get there 15 minutes early. CL: In the morning or at night? Me: Of course in the morning. CL: Why not at night? Me: Is the bank open at 9PM, the post office? DO you work at night? CL: Yeah I work at night. Me: ... Me: loving idiot. Hmm, maybe that isn't so stupid.
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poofactory posted:Me: Ok CL, our court date is 7/15 at 9:00. Try to get there 15 minutes early. Yeah, night court. One of my profs in law school did night court for a while years ago, had some hilarious stories of the crazies.
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Typical day at work for me- 7:45: Wake up 8:00: Stumble across street to work. Door locked. Buzz intercom. No answer. Call office number/buzz repeatedly for next 10 minutes to no avail. 8:15: Back at my apartment watching world cup. 8:30: Go back to office. Door unlocked, half the office is there working already. 9-2: Eat free bagels and drink free soda while attempting to write unnecessary memo obviously given to me as busy-work. 2:05: Turn in memo. Partner fist bumps me for a job well done. He leaves to go golfing. 2:06-4: Watch World Cup online until I leave. Personal Injury/Criminal Defense 
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Ok lawgoons, I need your help. If I needed to very quickly become an expert in "privacy and related regulatory issues", what treatises, practicioners guides, etc. would you recommend?
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SWATJester posted:Ok lawgoons, I need your help. Just a brief list of some of the privacy laws/regs I've had to deal with: HIPAA GLBA state breach notification laws state insurance regs (e.g., NY insurance regs 169 and 173, IIRC) FCRA Massachusetts and Nevada information security laws/regs Safeguards Rule COPA FTC Act There are probably some banking-specific state or federal regs I haven't had to deal with yet You are completely hosed. What are they asking you to do?
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It's a staff attorney position with a tech industry trade consortium, so I'd assume it's information security stuff, and less any particular state law claims. I need to have some knowledge in the field in order to apply. -e- I think on that list, COPA and FTC immediately jump to mind as logical places they might have some issues. Leif. fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Jul 2, 2010 |
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SWATJester posted:It's a staff attorney position with a tech industry trade consortium, so I'd assume it's information security stuff, and less any particular state law claims. I need to have some knowledge in the field in order to apply.
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Ganon posted:What happened to the foreign service job? It's still there. But I'd be an idiot not to look at other options.
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gvibes posted:Ugh. Coming from someone who has had some of this foisted on me, it is impossible. There are literally like 20+ different statutory and regulatory regimes, and a lot of them are state-based, so they vary. Does this include HIPPA? Also, a bunch of this stuff isn't really regulatorily enforced, it's more best practices. Ugh guh. Add FERPA to the list
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Yojimbo Sancho posted:Typical day at work for me- Sounds almost exactly like what I've done today except throw in a BBQ at an associate's house for lunch.
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sigmachiev posted:Sounds almost exactly like what I've done today except throw in a BBQ at an associate's house for lunch. Add in some more nothing, add in a lot more conferencing and arguing over the law, printing out cases, highlighting cases, slapping down treatises and then writing a motion that will be scrutinized and edited over and over by four different bosses that still only has a 30% chance of being filed and you've got my job. Except I start at 10, end at 5:30 or 6 and make a fraction of what you do. And I know I work for a solo but everything we file goes through co-counsel too before its sent out. Mrrrgh. G-Mawwwwwww fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Jul 3, 2010 |
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Just had my first day working in a law office. Pretty excited with all of the whats-its and doodads and OH GOD THE PAPER EVERYWHERE and stuff. It was actually pretty cool.
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^Congrats on finally getting to do something real. I don't remember my first day at a law job, but actually getting to do something in the real world gives you a far better understanding of things than law school does. I know the law market is down in the doldrums, but does anybody have a link to a good discussion of MBA and med school prospects? Not for me, personally, but the missus likes the idea of an MBA in a couple of years, and there's a friend who thinks med school is an automatic job (which it may well be). I remember somebody was discussing MBA job woes a bit earlier
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Lykourgos posted:I know the law market is down in the doldrums, but does anybody have a link to a good discussion of MBA and med school prospects? Not for me, personally, but the missus likes the idea of an MBA in a couple of years, and there's a friend who thinks med school is an automatic job (which it may well be). I remember somebody was discussing MBA job woes a bit earlier MBA degrees are largely the same as law school degrees. Useless and over supplied. Med School is impossible to get into but once you do & if you can get into a specialty you are golden. There are actually market/school caps that guarantee shortages in most specialties.
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Okay everyone. Let's try REALLY hard to help me get this job. I know we went over good questions to ask during interviews awhile back but does anyone have any other good ones - specifically for someone not entering the summer program.
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