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My Dinner with Andre is a total classic and the "Sabotage" music video is better than the entire creative output of most film studios.
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Criterion doesn't even limit itself to classics. It's devoted to releasing, along with classics, art films, cult classics, controversial movies that have been butchered to poo poo due to various censorship boards, etc. All of the ones I quoted may not be classics age-wise, but they definitely fall under the other categories.
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Jun 30, 2010 17:23
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Magic Hate Ball posted:Haha, no problem. I never saw the film myself but I remember that part of the trailer. It got pretty middling reviews. When it first was released there was some to do about how the studio took the film away from the director and supposedly brought in the Wachowskis to redo the ending. It's kind of obvious that something happened as the movie's two halves don't really fit together and it suffers from the mega-happy ending.
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Jun 30, 2010 17:32
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Blompkin posted:I know it was a little while ago, but I just wanted to point out that the following films are also in the Criterion collection: Bad Boys 2 wants a word with you.
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Jun 30, 2010 18:14
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I'm convinced that Armageddon will be "in canon" in like 20 years. It's just that kind of weird, lavish, expressive piece of work that future generations are gonna watch and say "they don't make 'em like that anymore" and we can sigh heavily, shifting uncomfortably as Ben Affleck slips animal crackers into Liv Tyler while her father sings a ballad, and say "I was there, son. I was there."
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Jun 30, 2010 18:26
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Blompkin posted:I know it was a little while ago, but I just wanted to point out that the following films are also in the Criterion collection: FUUUCK YYOOOUUUU!!!
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Jun 30, 2010 18:29
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Fun Fact: Criterion needs to make money to survive.
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Jun 30, 2010 18:31
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WebDog posted:
This is a page back, but I never realized this. In fact, I still don't know what shots could have possibly used this camera. I do remember that the first shot of "Magnolia" is shot with a hand-crank camera but I can't recall any shots in TWBB looking like that.
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Jun 30, 2010 18:33
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Parachute posted:Bad Boys 2 wants a word with you.
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Jun 30, 2010 18:40
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How do they do that shot where an object in the foreground either stays in the same place or moves towards the camera while the background moves away from the camera? I think it's called foreshortening. Example: This scene from The Quick and the Dead. Link contains spoilers, so watch at your own risk.
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Jun 30, 2010 20:29
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X-Ray Pecs posted:How do they do that shot where an object in the foreground either stays in the same place or moves towards the camera while the background moves away from the camera? I think it's called foreshortening.
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Jun 30, 2010 20:30
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Keanu Grieves posted:Zoom in while you dolly out. Hitchcock co-created the shot for Vertigo. A few examples: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y48R6-iIYHs
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Jun 30, 2010 20:45
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Keanu Grieves posted:Zoom in while you dolly out. Hitchcock co-created the shot for Vertigo. Also called the contrazoom.
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Keanu Grieves posted:Zoom in while you dolly out. Hitchcock co-created the shot for Vertigo. Actually, when you want the background to seem to move away from the foreground (Vertigo, Jaws), you dolly in while zooming out. If you want the foreground and background to come together, you zoom in while pulling back.
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Jun 30, 2010 20:57
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Baron von Eevl posted:Actually, when you want the background to seem to move away from the foreground (Vertigo, Jaws), you dolly in while zooming out. If you want the foreground and background to come together, you zoom in while pulling back.
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Thanks, guys! That's been bugging me forever and I just remembered to ask it.
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the Bunt posted:This is a page back, but I never realized this. In fact, I still don't know what shots could have possibly used this camera. I do remember that the first shot of "Magnolia" is shot with a hand-crank camera but I can't recall any shots in TWBB looking like that. They were very short flashback scenes on a train, Plainview with his son as a baby.
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Jun 30, 2010 22:26
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The Hitchcock zoom is also pretty universally regarded as bad technique.
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NeuroticErotica posted:The Hitchcock zoom is also pretty universally regarded as bad technique.
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I think more like "cliche" than "bad".
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It's something that should be used really, really, really judiciously. Or, if you're a student filmmaker with a dolly, ALL THE TIME. The basic problem is that it's a big fat gimmick, and there are so few things you can do with it that every time you use it your audience will have already seen it in another film. It's been used to simulate vertigo (Vertigo), a sudden, terrifying realization (Jaws), to create tension during a climactic discussion (Goodfellas), to create a sudden sense of impending confrontation (Do The Right Thing), to supernaturally change a room's dimensions (Poltergeist), and a billion similar ways. What else can be done with it? Frankly, I love it when a dolly zoom is used effectively, but it's done badly so often that it has to be really, really exceptional to work because the audience will automatically associate it with all the lovely times they've seen it used.
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Magic Hate Ball posted:Frankly, I love it when a dolly zoom is used effectively, but it's done badly so often that it has to be really, really exceptional to work because the audience will automatically associate it with all the lovely times they've seen it used.
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SubG posted:See also: dutch angles.
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SubG posted:See also: dutch angles. Best of both worlds; Dutch Angled Vertigo Zooms are used in The Quick and the Dead. But it's cool because Sam Raimi. Also, Battlefield Earth rules.
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X-Ray Pecs posted:Best of both worlds; Dutch Angled Vertigo Zooms are used in The Quick and the Dead. But it's cool because Sam Raimi. I would LOVE for Battlefield Earth to have used Dutch Angled Vertigo Zooms. Also, Quick and the Dead rules.
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Jay Dub posted:Also, Quick and the Dead rules. It was pretty good through most of the movie, but the ending was awesome and was Sam Raimi letting loose and it owned. Edit: Watching Battlefield Earth right now. Still amazing.
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Magic Hate Ball posted:a sudden, terrifying realization (Jaws) 
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The dolly zoom nails that effect. I've been in a few situations like that, and it really does feel like the whole world is rushing away from you. It's the visual version of "it was like the floor dropped out".
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X-Ray Pecs posted:Best of both worlds; Dutch Angled Vertigo Zooms are used in The Quick and the Dead. But it's cool because Sam Raimi. And because in those instances it's an obvious ironic choice.
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I think things like that zoom need to be used sparingly because it is so obviously a technique that it can take the viewer out of the film very easily, and remind them that they are watching a film as opposed to being immersed in and caught up in a film-watching experience.
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I thought the example in Fellowship of the Ring linked above as a pretty good use of the technique.
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euphronius posted:I thought the example in Fellowship of the Ring linked above as a pretty good use of the technique.
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Is my By Brakhage Volume One Blu Ray hosed up? I go to watch The Act of Seeing With One's Own Eyes and I scroll on the time line to look for it and it isn't there. I checked after Dog Star Man where it is supposed to be and it wasn't there. Any ideas?
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The Lucas posted:Is my By Brakhage Volume One Blu Ray hosed up? I go to watch The Act of Seeing With One's Own Eyes and I scroll on the time line to look for it and it isn't there. I checked after Dog Star Man where it is supposed to be and it wasn't there. Any ideas? EDIT: I found it in the Index, but it isn't on the time line. Weird.
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The Lucas posted:Is my By Brakhage Volume One Blu Ray hosed up? I go to watch The Act of Seeing With One's Own Eyes and I scroll on the time line to look for it and it isn't there. I checked after Dog Star Man where it is supposed to be and it wasn't there. Any ideas? I just checked mine and it's the same. I never use those timeline things on Criterion discs. Just select it from the index. e: beat me to it
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This has probably been asked before, but has there ever been a remake of a movie or TV show that rose above the source material or got good reviews? The only one I could think of was The Man Who Knew Too Much - but it doesn't seem like that one would count.
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fenix down posted:This has probably been asked before, but has there ever been a remake of a movie or TV show that rose above the source material or got good reviews? On a personal note, I enjoyed A Brady Bunch Movie and Starsky & Hutch much more than their source TV series.
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fenix down posted:This has probably been asked before, but has there ever been a remake of a movie or TV show that rose above the source material or got good reviews? Ocean's 11 tends to be a lot more loved as a remake than the original, from what I've seen.
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fenix down posted:This has probably been asked before, but has there ever been a remake of a movie or TV show that rose above the source material or got good reviews? The original is better The Thing is generally considered to be better than The Thing From Another World although I don't know if it was well-received at the time. More (some of these are debatable): The Maltese Falcon The Fly Ben-Hur Ocean's 11 Gaslight Imitation of Life His Girl Friday Little Shop of Horrors
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fenix down posted:This has probably been asked before, but has there ever been a remake of a movie or TV show that rose above the source material or got good reviews? The Departed seems to be more highly regarded than Infernal Affairs, though I don't share that sentiment.
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