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sklnd
Nov 26, 2007

NOT A TRACTOR

blugu64 posted:

Pretty sure classic 250s come with dunlop poo poo. Go buy a metzeler me880 for the rear, mine lasted 10k miles, and find something good for the front.

Seconding this, the stock dunlops are rear end. Also, the me880 is a slightly bigger tire than the stockers, so you get a slight adjustment on ride height on the rear that I found enjoyable.

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sectoidman
Aug 21, 2006
Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway.
The stock tires on the Ninja 250 are incredibly lovely, especially when they get old and bald. And they get old and bald awfully fast; the ones on my last bike were brand new when I bought it with 3k miles on the clock and were toast by 8-9k miles.

Any of the tires from either the performance or touring sections of this list will be exponentially better. I am particularly fond of the MT75, which has the distinction of being one of the cheapest tires there while also being one of the stickiest. They don't last too long, but based on my own experience you should probably get nearly 10-12k out of the fronts and maybe 6k out of the rears if you ride normally.

sectoidman fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Jun 23, 2010

Tsaven Nava
Dec 31, 2008

by elpintogrande

modify_evolution posted:

I (inccorectly) assumed Tsaven knew what he was talking

Well that was dumb (but hey, as least I paid for my stupidity, and not you)

modify_evolution
Jan 21, 2010

needknees posted:

There should be a 4 digit date code on the tire somewhere designating the week and year of its manufacture. The first two numbers are the week, last two are the year.

Yeah, I found that one, but the actual brand name was blocked. But they were made in 2405, so. :-(

Z3n posted:

Crashing is the least fun part of motorcycling

Well hey, so far, Tsaven's got that part covered for me!


And I'm gonna do some research tonight on the tire thread, and probably post there double checking my choices.

-Inu-
Nov 11, 2008

TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY CUBIC CENTIMETERS
I'm surprised people use ME880's on 250's...those things are heavy as goddamn hell. I wonder how much power the bike loses from the additional rotating mass. I think 4 or 5 of my BT090's would still weigh less than 1 ME880. If anything I'd use a BT45 if you want a long lasting tire (got about 10k out of my set I believe), though I'm not sure if they make them for pre-gens.

Tsaven Nava
Dec 31, 2008

by elpintogrande
From reading the wiki, they seem to only be recommending the ME880s for loaded, long-distance (10,000+ miles) touring.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

God



loving



Dammit




doing some curves at 40mph, not sure if I fixated on a roadsign or what, went off the road, said to myself "okay, just ride it through the grass until I slow down"

Then I jumped down into this 8 foot drainage ditch. Helmet busted the windshield off, hit the right side of the ditch and tore up my leg/plastic. My body hitting the gas tank knocked the loving wind out of me. Never fell off the bike.

Also I hit some fresh tar with my my car.

Tsaven Nava
Dec 31, 2008

by elpintogrande
Holy poo poo.

So . . . streetfighter time?

Doctor Zero
Sep 21, 2002

Would you like a jelly baby?
It's been in my pocket through 4 regenerations,
but it's still good.

Bob Morales posted:

God



loving



Dammit




doing some curves at 40mph, not sure if I fixated on a roadsign or what, went off the road, said to myself "okay, just ride it through the grass until I slow down"

Then I jumped down into this 8 foot drainage ditch. Helmet busted the windshield off, hit the right side of the ditch and tore up my leg/plastic. My body hitting the gas tank knocked the loving wind out of me. Never fell off the bike.

Also I hit some fresh tar with my my car.

Wait, you did that without dumping it? Holy gently caress, you deserve some kind of achievement for that.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Someone needs a supermoto.

(Glad you're okay.)

Radbot
Aug 12, 2009
Probation
Can't post for 3 years!

sklnd posted:

Seconding this, the stock dunlops are rear end. Also, the me880 is a slightly bigger tire than the stockers, so you get a slight adjustment on ride height on the rear that I found enjoyable.

The ME880s on a 250 is kinda an odd choice... those are some seriously stiff tires meant for bikes that weight twice as much. Good mileage though.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

What's the best place for replacement plastics? I see fairly cheap side/front fairings from Hotbodies in the Dennis Kirk catalog. Throw in a windshield, new right side headlight, and turn signals and I should be back in business, right?

Also, why won't this thing start?

Tsaven Nava
Dec 31, 2008

by elpintogrande

Bob Morales posted:

Also, why won't this thing start?

Check all the fuses, but I also wonder if one of the various safety switches (kickstand, neutral, clutch, etc) got dinged

UserNotFound
May 7, 2006
???
Got one of those dreaded 1:35am calls from a friend that rides... he lowsided in a recently formed pile of gravel on the road he lives on at about 20mph. Helmet, check. Gloves, check. T-shirt and shorts, check.

A bit shaken up, but otherwise quite alright. Minor abrasion to the forearm that didn't even draw blood, and not a scratch anywhere else. Broken shifter peg, (more) rashing to the fairing, and cracked windscreen.

The gravel was at least half and inch deep and 10 inches wide, and I KNOW that it wasn't like that on Friday the last time I rode through there.

Got it in to second with a pair of vice grips, and he limped it home the last half mile home while I followed in my car.

Goes to show that when it's dark, you should stick to the lines you normally take and not turn in earlier through an intersection just because nobody is around.

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm

Bob Morales posted:

What's the best place for replacement plastics? I see fairly cheap side/front fairings from Hotbodies in the Dennis Kirk catalog. Throw in a windshield, new right side headlight, and turn signals and I should be back in business, right?

Also, why won't this thing start?

The tipover sensor is up there; you can jump it and see if that is the issue - connect the outer two wires and let the middle free... that is if yours isn't missing now. When the tipover sensor is broken or missing the fuel pump doesn't get power, so it'll crank but no fire.

BlackMK4 fucked around with this message at 07:19 on Jun 28, 2010

LeftyChris
Mar 28, 2010
Last year a car driver coming down an on ramp didn't bother to check his mirrors or blind spot and exited straight out to lane 2(WHEN LANE 1 WAS EMPTY!)smashing my 900 hornet and me into the ground of lane 3 at 60mph!Luckily nothing was coming up lane 3 behind me and I walked away with only a broken hand
Only in plaster for 10 days thank fook

So that's what a fractured metacarpal looks like

However my gear wasn't so lucky



This all happened back in Nov of last year,and even though the other partys insurers have accepted 100% liability I'm still waiting for my drat money!And to make it even worse the name of the driver who hit me was............Mr.Ram,I poo poo thee not

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

Bob Morales posted:

What's the best place for replacement plastics? I see fairly cheap side/front fairings from Hotbodies in the Dennis Kirk catalog. Throw in a windshield, new right side headlight, and turn signals and I should be back in business, right?

Also, why won't this thing start?

Personally, I'd recommend an eBay set of fairings. They won't be oem quality but they're pretty drat good for the price. Either that or eBay the replacement fairings you need.

And yeah the tipover sensor triggered. That's why it won't start.

frozenphil
Mar 13, 2003

YOU CANNOT MAKE A MISTAKE SO BIG THAT 80 GRIT CAN'T FIX IT!
:smug:

LeftyChris posted:

wreck

Breaking a dude's arm when he's only got one seems like it would carry a huge load of bad karma.

LeftyChris
Mar 28, 2010

frozenphil posted:

Breaking a dude's arm when he's only got one seems like it would carry a huge load of bad karma.

It was only a bone in my hand,thankfully I only had the plaster on for 10 days and was back on the bike a week later.Can't have too much time off when you're self-employed!

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Z3n posted:

Personally, I'd recommend an eBay set of fairings. They won't be oem quality but they're pretty drat good for the price. Either that or eBay the replacement fairings you need.

And yeah the tipover sensor triggered. That's why it won't start.

Stuck a wire in the tipover sensor, fuel pump came on. I could ride it around but the front tire is flat. There's a hole in the front tire, I wonder if it was going low and that's why the bike didn't want to turn?

Going back to the crash site to see if I can find the other parts. Mirrors and stuff. Hope nobody picked them up, but it's a deep ditch and it's in the middle of nowhere.

Cleaned the bike up and it looks alright. I'll have to get new pictures when I get home.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Bob Morales posted:

Cleaned the bike up and it looks alright. I'll have to get new pictures when I get home.

Looks like my tailsection is bent to the left a little bit, what's up with that?









Found all the parts. Here's the final resting spot of the bike.



Here's where I dropped in, then continued to ride about 75 feet. There's a huge mud rut now.





Pass with care!

Nuevo
May 23, 2006

:eyepop::shittypop::eyepop::shittypop::eyepop::shittypop::eyepop::shittypop::eyepop::shittypop::eyepop::shittypop::eyepop::shittypop::eyepop::shittypop:
Fun Shoe

Bob Morales posted:

:clint::respek::black101:

I'm still loving amazed you managed to smash the front off your bike with your loving face, ride it down a drainage ditch full of mud and reeds, and somehow didn't dump the bike.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.
I put my C70 down. I don't remember exactly how, and I don't remember the trip back at all. All I remember is going onto a soft shoulder for some reason...I don't THINK it was on purpose, then hitting the ground. This would have been around 30-35 mph.

My helmet was scraped up...I'll probably be wanting a new visor, polishing it isn't working very well. There are a few marks on the helmet itself. I managed to get the hinge of the visor and the chin bar full of sand, and a little in my mouth, too. My jacket was fine. I kind of wish I'd been wearing gloves, but I've done worse to my hands...fixing my bicycle...cooking dinner...assembling models...whole bunch of things. And I have a bruise on each calf (no idea how that happened), and on my cheek (same side where the helmet was scuffed).

I don't know if I'll ever remember what happened. I think I'll stay off that road, too.

I cracked the front fender, and bent the front cargo rack. Otherwise I think the bike is okay. My new saddlebags appear to be uninjured.

schreibs
Oct 11, 2009

VideoTapir posted:

I put my C70 down. I don't remember exactly how, and I don't remember the trip back at all. All I remember is going onto a soft shoulder for some reason...I don't THINK it was on purpose, then hitting the ground. This would have been around 30-35 mph.

My helmet was scraped up...I'll probably be wanting a new visor, polishing it isn't working very well. There are a few marks on the helmet itself. I managed to get the hinge of the visor and the chin bar full of sand, and a little in my mouth, too. My jacket was fine. I kind of wish I'd been wearing gloves, but I've done worse to my hands...fixing my bicycle...cooking dinner...assembling models...whole bunch of things. And I have a bruise on each calf (no idea how that happened), and on my cheek (same side where the helmet was scuffed).

I don't know if I'll ever remember what happened. I think I'll stay off that road, too.

I cracked the front fender, and bent the front cargo rack. Otherwise I think the bike is okay. My new saddlebags appear to be uninjured.

Yeah, going to beat everyone else to the punch here...if you can't remember what happened than you should probably get a new helmet and not a new visor (here I am assuming its for the same helmet you just crashed in).

Sharp_angus
Aug 10, 2005

I just love the game. I can't get enough of hackey!

schreibs posted:

...if you can't remember what happened than you should probably get to a doctor!

I think this might also apply.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.
I dunno, I think it might have just been the adrenaline. I've been hit in the head far worse, literally dozens of times, and not had things go so vague.

What I really am having trouble remembering is why the hell I was so close to the shoulder that I could have got on it by accident. (I was a good 5 miles under the speed limit...I think I was keeping to the right because of that.)

Hah...I stopped a mile or so earlier on that road. I almost lost it in the soft sand as I came to a stop then.

As for the helmet, I'm pretty sure it was almost entirely abrasion, and the overwhelming majority is on the visor.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



If your cheek is hurting post impact, you got a pretty good hit. Helmets are only good for one hit. It's toast.

And echoing the go to the doctor sentiment. It may be nothing, but it may not be.

modify_evolution
Jan 21, 2010
Re: Not wanting to buy a new helmet post head-smack you can't remember

I work with this guy who bought a $50 helmet off amazon.com. He dropped his bike on his head-in-the-helmet while trying to teach himself how to wheelie, and insists that it will still protect his head in a "real" crash.

Do not be this guy, VideoTapir.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.
First of all, nothing landed on my head, and this happened on a soft shoulder. Way to bring a hyperbolic example into this.

Second, I think the helmet may in fact be done. I got all the sand (I think all of it) out, shut the fans off and had a really close listen as I pressed on the spot that was hit and on the other side. The side that was hit made noticeably more noise than the other.

Here4DaGangBang
Dec 3, 2004

I beat my dick like it owes me money!
Why even bother with such a test? Like Endless Mike said, if your cheek hurts then that means you copped a decent blow to the head and the impact lining of the helmet has done its job in that area - a new helmet is a no brainer.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.

Here4DaGangBang posted:

Why even bother with such a test? Like Endless Mike said, if your cheek hurts then that means you copped a decent blow to the head and the impact lining of the helmet has done its job in that area - a new helmet is a no brainer.

My cheekbone, near the eye. No lining there. No helmet there except the visor. I also realized later it was a little abraded...probably explains why there was so much sand in there. (IIRC, I had the visor open one notch...probably dumb, as since the handle is on the other side, it would probably have stayed closed had it been closed all the way.)

With what happened, it was NOT a no-brainer. So I thought of a test. It makes sense, there should only be a significant difference if there's more motion on one side, even if I can't see it, or feel the difference as I'm pressing.

Crayvex
Dec 15, 2005

Morons! I have morons on my payroll!
Just accept that in CA, a dropped helmet must be replaced. Period. If you want to keep wearing one that went down, then go ahead. It's your life, just don't tell CA about it. Helmets are replaceable. Your skull and brain are not. I'm glad you are going to replace it.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
It doesn't matter if you didn't hit exactly in the spot where there wasn't any liner...as you discovered, when your head hits the ground in a helmet, you're compressing the liner all across that entire side of the helmet. Glad you're alright, and I'm glad you decided to replace the helmet.

pr0zac
Jan 18, 2004

~*lukecagefan69*~


Pillbug
Had the exact same thing that I posted about in the almost crashed thread last week happen again, this time I wasn't as lucky. Guy cut in front of me into the carpool lane, I swerved into the shoulder to avoid rear ending him, hit debris of some sort, rear tire slid out, and I high sided off the bike. Luckily I wasn't in a lane so that was the end of it.

Bike is mostly ok, the fairings were already scraped to hell. I completely shattered one of the frame sliders and broke the rear brake, and the throttle doesn't rebound automatically anymore, otherwise its functional. I'm ok other than a slightly tweaked elbow and a hosed up backpack. My helmet doesn't appear to have any damage at all which is weird cause I swear I remember my head hitting pretty hard. Will probably send it into Shoei to get it x-rayed or just be lazy and replace it. Always love an excuse to buy new gear.

Definitely need to rethink how I'm commuting to work. I've always tried to keep a nice cushion of space between me and the car in front of me, but that seems to result in idiots cutting me off constantly. Maybe I'll just go back to taking the bus.

FuzzyWuzzyBear
Sep 8, 2003

Z3n posted:

It doesn't matter if you didn't hit exactly in the spot where there wasn't any liner...as you discovered, when your head hits the ground in a helmet, you're compressing the liner all across that entire side of the helmet. Glad you're alright, and I'm glad you decided to replace the helmet.

This. The impact is spread over a wide area of the helmet, not just the square inch that touches ground.

2ndclasscitizen
Jan 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post

pr0zac posted:

Definitely need to rethink how I'm commuting to work. I've always tried to keep a nice cushion of space between me and the car in front of me, but that seems to result in idiots cutting me off constantly. Maybe I'll just go back to taking the bus.

You need to be positioned on the side of the lane furtherest from the other traffic, covering the brakes and watching the cars like a hawk. You're watching for the drivers turning their heads, drifting in their lane, wheels starting to turn. Bad as it sounds, if there's a hard shoulder next to you, it might be worthwhile closing up on the car in front, and be ready to dodge left/right if someone slams on the brakes.

pr0zac
Jan 18, 2004

~*lukecagefan69*~


Pillbug

2ndclasscitizen posted:

You need to be positioned on the side of the lane furtherest from the other traffic, covering the brakes and watching the cars like a hawk. You're watching for the drivers turning their heads, drifting in their lane, wheels starting to turn. Bad as it sounds, if there's a hard shoulder next to you, it might be worthwhile closing up on the car in front, and be ready to dodge left/right if someone slams on the brakes.

Yeah it seems thats the best idea. I'd been thinking if I held to the right I'd be less likely to get cut off because people would be more likely to see my headlight when glancing back. I probably shouldn't have assumed people would be glancing back. Live and learn.

redscare
Aug 14, 2003

pr0zac posted:

Had the exact same thing that I posted about in the almost crashed thread last week happen again, this time I wasn't as lucky. Guy cut in front of me into the carpool lane, I swerved into the shoulder to avoid rear ending him, hit debris of some sort, rear tire slid out, and I high sided off the bike. Luckily I wasn't in a lane so that was the end of it.

I try to use cages as screens specifically because of this kind of poo poo. Even the dumbest of dumb motherfuckers isn't going to merge square into a car. And if one does, well then God decided that it was time for your rear end to go burn in hell and there ain't a thing to do about it. Glad you're ok, that could have been real bad as I'm sure you're aware.

Also you seem to have been operating under the assumption that the cager will see you. He won't. Ever. Hell I keep my eyes out for bikes like a hawk when I'm in a car and sometimes I still get buzzed by one out of nowhere. Think of the odds of a bubmblefuck in a Camry with his mind half in his iPhone and half in some coochie seeing you. Exactly. I actually never ride in the carpool lane unless traffic is heavy enough to warrant it and in that case, they're usually attentive enough to see you before merging simply because they don't want to hit a car.

Nuevo
May 23, 2006

:eyepop::shittypop::eyepop::shittypop::eyepop::shittypop::eyepop::shittypop::eyepop::shittypop::eyepop::shittypop::eyepop::shittypop::eyepop::shittypop:
Fun Shoe

pr0zac posted:

Yeah it seems thats the best idea. I'd been thinking if I held to the right I'd be less likely to get cut off because people would be more likely to see my headlight when glancing back. I probably shouldn't have assumed people would be glancing back. Live and learn.

Yeah, that's probably the worst place to be. Most people in cut-you-the-gently caress-off range glancing into their rear-view mirrors will have you obscured by their own C-pillars in that spot. With a quick glance in the side-view, they'll likely be looking towards the center of the lane (where cars would be) and overlook you/think you're in their lane already/leaving the other lane. If you stay left, not only are you slightly more visible, you'll have that extra 2/3 of a lane to notice idiots moving into your lane to honk/take evasive action/what-have-you.

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cheesebot
Jul 21, 2002

I cheesebot
Not really a crash but more like a dump. On my vacation last week up to Nova Scotia we found some nice unpaved roads to burn some miles on. I wanted to grab a campsite first so we could unload our baggage and lose some weight before exploring these roads but my girlfriend preferred to get to the campground via these roads.

To make a long story short, I hate gravel downgrades and this is steeper than it looks in the pic. There was no real speed type damage but the weight of the bike, me and the luggage all fell on my right shoulder. I couldn't move my arm for a little while and I'm convinced I tore some of my rotator cuff (I have an appointment with an orthopedist). A friendly local drunk in a pickup with his wife, kid and dog stopped to help and offered all sorts of solutions but I just wanted to get my arm working well enough to get out of there (cue: Dueling Banjos). I eventually was able to make my wrist do the twist motion so by lifting my right arm up the the grip I was able to get to the campground about 20 miles away.



The only damage to the bike besides some scratches was a cracked front turn signal and bashed up sidecase - both of which I fixed the next day at the site while recuperating.



Several days later on our way back to Rhode Island we crossed the Maine border at St. Croix and we were running late. Unfortunately there's no lodging or camping anywhere around there so we were just riding looking for anything in the dark when a huge hairy monster (moose) ran right at me from the left side of the road. All my training turned into muscle memory as I emergency stopped without dumping the bike and the moose stood for a second before running off into the woods. I had to pull off for a few minutes to calm down.

We ended up camping black that night at a rest stop on Rt. 6 - nice place on a lake actually with picnic tables, grills and even a bathroom.

We took this in New Hampshire (Kancamagus Trail) a couple days later.



The funny thing is with my arm in its current state it's easier to ride a motorbike to work than a car because we don't have any automatics and using the stick shift is so painful.

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