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He may not have a 'good' voice in the fundamental sense but its very distinctive and adds a nice dimensions to songs when produced properly. Note the last 3 words of the last sentence, Billy.
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# ? Jun 18, 2010 01:33 |
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# ? Jun 9, 2024 02:44 |
http://twitter.com/Billybilly posted:LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOF'NL LOL LOL LOL!!!!!!! L! O! L! Welp looks like he finally broke.
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# ? Jun 26, 2010 08:45 |
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a sad model posted:http://twitter.com/Billy I think he's raging against the toronto law passed for a few days to keep rabble rousers away from the G20 meeting site. This is both insane and makes sense. It is insane because, well, he's crazy. It makes sense because he has started writing conspiracy theory poo poo about "chem trails" and other things to rival the Montauk Project, so this is right up his alley. Shouldn't be long before we've got a THE TRUTH ABOUT 9-11 By Billy Corgan.
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# ? Jun 26, 2010 13:29 |
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Been following his twitter for a couple months and I think he's been off the deep end for a while now. I think this one is a crack at goons! He just forgot the neck part. billy posted:Where is the indie outrage over Arcade Fire's 8 different album covers??C'mon u boys with beards! Where is the indignation!?LOL oh the irony The funny part is he never retweets things so you get this one sided rant and have no clue what he's responding to. billy posted:Hey, SP/hipster fans, I do GET it. Bands do things to SELL records. Fans have the option to BUY them if they want. If your lame f'n record label isn't going to support the release of your record by giving you ZERO money you have to find ways of marketing. Stick to hating music/artists because of the endless compromises and indignities they must endure and foster a climate of lame music. Enjoy! Different rules for different games...it's all the same. Don't buy appearances, don't buy anything. Start your own band! LOL So he's supporting the multi cover band just because they did a multi version zeitgeist, complains about the label, then goes into some weird tangent about not compromising... Or something.
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# ? Jun 26, 2010 14:01 |
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In his defense though, if the internet had been around in the 60s and 70s for musicians to vomit on, I can't even imagine what we'd think of Jim Morrison.
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# ? Jun 26, 2010 15:36 |
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I've been on a pretty big Smashing Pumpkins kick as of late, and any time I'm listening to something and think, "Billy Corgan is loving awesome," I immediately think about the things I've read about him in this thread
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# ? Jun 27, 2010 18:47 |
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You have to disconnect the man from what he produces. He's an incredible song writer when he has a mind for it. Unfortunately, it's necessary to sort through a formidable amount of shite to reconcile this fact. Many do not succeed.
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# ? Jun 28, 2010 03:57 |
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Gotta admit, I kinda like "LOFN'L"
Automata 10 Pack fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Jun 28, 2010 |
# ? Jun 28, 2010 21:05 |
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So, new song is up on the website. "Freak" it is called. It is at least different sounding from the other ones. That doesn't mean it is good. I'm presently at war with myself over whether or not to go see them. I guess the setlists will decide that.
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# ? Jul 6, 2010 16:05 |
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For some reason I can't seem to download the song to my PC. I click the download option and all it does is open up a new tab in my browser. Am I doing something wrong here?' Edit: Nevermind, tried with IE and it worked. Edit 2: As far as the song goes. I like, I think it's great. Kinda seems to me where they possibly would have gone after Machina if they didn't break up. I'm sure I'm gonna be the odd one out though. The Black Stones fucked around with this message at 16:55 on Jul 6, 2010 |
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The Black Stones posted:As far as the song goes. I like, I think it's great. Kinda seems to me where they possibly would have gone after Machina if they didn't break up. I'm sure I'm gonna be the odd one out though. First Impression: It seems like a bridge between where Machina was going and Zeitgeist started. It seems perhaps he has finally taken some criticism as his voice isn't front and center drawing attention from everything and he seems to have written the song with his current vocal range in mind instead of his old one. Flows nice, doesn't drag on and actually it sounds like it could fit on an album. A decent song that isn't trying to be amazing, wacky, or shocking, and is a nice breath of fresh air in this pile of dung tracklist. Result: It has actually found its way onto my iPod which none of the other songs barring Song for a Son has managed to accomplish. I see promise in this project if he can stay in this current production/song writing outlook.
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# ? Jul 6, 2010 22:34 |
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"Freak" isn't bad, but the lyrics are kind of in my opinion
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# ? Jul 7, 2010 00:32 |
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Diarrhea Jones posted:"Freak" isn't bad, but the lyrics are kind of in my opinion Yeah, but Smashing Pumpkins lyrics have always been pretty lovely.
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# ? Jul 7, 2010 01:25 |
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He is totally right about the Arcade Fire hypocrisy. He does it, soulless cash grab and it is still mentioned by Pitchfork to this day. Arcade Fire does it, they're visionary geniuses giving us the privilege of choice.
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# ? Jul 7, 2010 02:16 |
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I'd classify 'Freak' as 'the best Zwan song', really. What happened to the wall of sound and the gently caress you attitude?
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# ? Jul 7, 2010 02:24 |
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The Black Stones posted:Yeah, but Smashing Pumpkins lyrics have always been pretty lovely. I'll go along with this, but I have to say the early 20 flailing English major in me was all about scribbling lines from Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness in notebooks and drunken letters to the girl back home. Words defy the plans indeed.
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# ? Jul 7, 2010 03:18 |
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:I'd classify 'Freak' as 'the best Zwan song', really. Cause doing that in your 20's is cool. Doing that in your 40's is just sad. I think "Tarantula" is a great example of how he's still got it in him. It just seems he wants to "push the boundaries" now (read: suck). I was so pumped when that single came out a few years ago, I thought, "Holy poo poo the Pumpkins are back." Then I heard the album.
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# ? Jul 7, 2010 03:19 |
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Captain Charisma posted:He is totally right about the Arcade Fire hypocrisy. He does it, soulless cash grab and it is still mentioned by Pitchfork to this day. Arcade Fire does it, they're visionary geniuses giving us the privilege of choice. Each Zeitgeist release had a song that was only available from that retailer. Death From Above was one of them, as was Stellar; can't think of the others off the top of my head. So if you wanted the "full" Zeitgeist, you had to either double-dip on albums, or find the missing track via files. As far as I know, The Suburbs is eight different covers but the same on-disc content. Found some article detailing the Zeitgeist release: quote:The regular, 12-track, red and red book versions contain the following tracks:
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# ? Jul 7, 2010 05:28 |
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How long has this been on their website?
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# ? Jul 7, 2010 06:16 |
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Remember when Korn had multiple covers for their album in 1999? It's hardly a new idea. And I can probably guarantee Korn wasn't the first either.
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# ? Jul 7, 2010 15:51 |
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Pisces Iscariot had a different cover for each format it was released on.
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# ? Jul 7, 2010 15:55 |
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Happy Hippo posted:Pisces Iscariot had a different cover for each format it was released on. And I still don't really know what each of them is. I have the CD, used to own the cassette... what/who the hell is that huge green thing on the CD, and is that an amusement park ride on the cassette? Was there a vinyl release (probably)?
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# ? Jul 7, 2010 17:08 |
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Yep. edit; here's the cassette cover and the familiar-to-most CD cover. As has been pointed out by the poster below, it's a blurry close-up of a face. Happy Hippo fucked around with this message at 19:44 on Jul 7, 2010 |
# ? Jul 7, 2010 19:14 |
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The person on the cover of the CD was never revealed. There's been a lot of speculation, but the band was alwasy tight-lipped about it. My guess is that it was a fan, and they used it without permission hence the blurry close up.
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# ? Jul 7, 2010 19:17 |
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to me it always looked like james
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# ? Jul 7, 2010 20:08 |
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Same here. Thought it was James. Also, inside, there's the picture of a woman's clothed breast, isn't there?
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# ? Jul 7, 2010 20:16 |
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I could have sworn it was Courtney Love Also I forgot about the exclusive track thing so yeah
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# ? Jul 7, 2010 21:10 |
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I'm having trouble recognizing that thing as a face.
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# ? Jul 7, 2010 21:35 |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doOk30z1rvg New song played during a soundcheck, called "Make it Happen"
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# ? Jul 8, 2010 16:36 |
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Anybody else going to the Columbus show tomorrow night? I don't think I have the patience to get in line early enough to catch the soundcheck but I'm really excited.
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# ? Jul 8, 2010 18:24 |
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Posting about favorite SP songs and no one has mentioned "Set The Ray To Jerry"? Do you guys have any soul? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONkXWTb-QzI
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# ? Jul 8, 2010 21:27 |
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fastpork posted:Posting about favorite SP songs and no one has mentioned "Set The Ray To Jerry"? Do you guys have any soul? It sounds kinda cheesy and nostalgic, but that's because I'm kinda drunk. Listening to this song, and some others reminds me of why I give a poo poo about the ridiculous stuff that billy keeps pumping out. This music is a big, big part of my sordid, unsettled youth, and I can't help but keep coming back to it. Uggghhhhhh Tampa show or not. I just can't make up my mind.
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# ? Jul 9, 2010 03:27 |
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Deltron 3030 posted:Anybody else going to the Columbus show tomorrow night? I don't think I have the patience to get in line early enough to catch the soundcheck but I'm really excited. Please tell me if he can still sing "Hummer" right. This will basically decide if I go or not.
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# ? Jul 9, 2010 14:07 |
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fastpork posted:Posting about favorite SP songs and no one has mentioned "Set The Ray To Jerry"? Do you guys have any soul? The thing I love about 'Set the Ray to Jerry' is that I got the boxset years ago for Christmas, and it was a really good time in my life (not that nowadays everything is poo poo, but I'm just sayin'). So any song from that collection, but especially this one, gives me that whole feeling all over again. I'm going to have to put my pumpkins b-sides collection on my ipod again. I just take out the singles and Pastichio Medley (only because it's 26 goddamned minutes), and it's a wonderful collection.
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# ? Jul 9, 2010 15:21 |
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fastpork posted:Posting about favorite SP songs and no one has mentioned "Set The Ray To Jerry"? Do you guys have any soul? I've listened to the Gravity Demos version of this for hours on end, interspersed occasionally with the actual song, and it kills me every time.
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# ? Jul 12, 2010 09:37 |
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Platypus Farm posted:Please tell me if he can still sing "Hummer" right. This will basically decide if I go or not. Yes he still can. I went to the Baltimore show last night, and it was great. The band has good chemistry, and Billy can still sing pretty loving well. The set list is pretty good (It could do with less Zeitgeist, personally). Sound check was a lot of fun, and Billy even signed an autograph for my friend while walking off stage at the end of the main show. Seriously, I would go.
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# ? Jul 13, 2010 08:01 |
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So uh, this album, any good?
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# ? Jul 13, 2010 12:21 |
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poop posted:So uh, this album, any good? Oh, I don't know, download it for free? Or read the thread?
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# ? Jul 13, 2010 12:39 |
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poop posted:So uh, this album, any good? There's only 4/44 songs released and they range from mediocre to obnoxiously lovely.
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# ? Jul 13, 2010 18:35 |
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# ? Jun 9, 2024 02:44 |
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Anyone following them on FB? They recently posted about how, while they don't mind music criticism (and in fact encourage it), they're banning people from bitching or whining. Don't blame them, but I tried looking for any overwhelming pumpkins criticism and could only find a few comments of how everything was better when D'arcy and James were still in the band.
Rupert Buttermilk fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Jul 13, 2010 |
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