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redscare
Aug 14, 2003

Jabs posted:

I'm 5'10", 235#, 36/30 pants, and Z3n can attest that I had *no* problem with Bunway Airline's 35" seat DRZ400SM, and my current bike it a KLR650 with a seat height of a whopping *37* inches. Yes, to get on it, I have to straight-leg kick my right foot up and put it on the seat, then hop forward a couple times to get my right leg over to the other side - but my little ridiculous 'mounting dance' is over and I'm actually on it, I'm very comfortably on the balls of both feet.

Dude, just grab the bars, stand on the left peg with the left foot, and swing the right leg over the bike as if you're mounting a horse. Its a lot easier.

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Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
I'm 5'11 with a 30 inch inseam and i have a DRZ with a seat that's raised about 2 inches and I can still get on it and comfortably get a foot down...seat height isn't everything, considering that the seats are narrow and the suspension sags significantly under your weight.

Nerobro
Nov 4, 2005

Rider now with 100% more titanium!

Dubs posted:

GS500 nekkid. 380 lb weight (dry?), 45-50hp, cheap, plenty-full, upright, boring.

40hp. Upright. Only boring if you are.

Kenny Rogers
Sep 7, 2007

Chapter One:
When I first saw Sparky, he reminded me of my favorite comb. He was missing a lot of teeth.

redscare posted:

Dude, just grab the bars, stand on the left peg with the left foot, and swing the right leg over the bike as if you're mounting a horse. Its a lot easier.
I'm in total agreement with you right up to the point where I kick the tailbag. :v:

redscare
Aug 14, 2003

Jabs posted:

I'm in total agreement with you right up to the point where I kick the tailbag. :v:

I have the Givi case on it about 90% of the time, just swing the leg OVER the bag, brah

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

"I wonder if this might be my next bike?" Episode 23.

I love sport tourers but I need to come to terms with my body and its desire for actual upright seating. The SV-GS thread got me thinking hard about GSes again, I'm interested in 955 Tigers but other than that there are not many adventure style bikes that tickle the pickle. Until this:

Cagiva Grand Canyon





More pics here, click on the pic for next: http://www.finn.no/finn/mc/used/viewimage?finnkode=22942267

Woof! This is what the Multistradas should have been going for. Almost 30% cheaper than a same year BMW GS.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
I like it. I recently test rode the new multi, was pretty impressed by it.

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

Unless I do weekend and holiday shifts on a corporate escort / cocksucking service, a new Multi is out of the question. How long did you have it for? Any quirks? More words please!

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


I've been thinking of selling my Peg, trouble is I can't find anything in my budget that I would want to replace it with. Not that there aren't bikes that I want, there just don't seem to be any for sale at the moment in the colours/configurations I want.

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

loving hell.



The one eyed snake just shed a tear.

edit: 75 hp :ughh:

Ola fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Jul 13, 2010

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


Ola posted:

loving hell.



The one eyed snake just shed a tear.

edit: 75 hp :ughh:

doesn't look like it weighs much, and it's a twin so the HP number isn't going to be that big. Seems reasonable.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

Ola posted:

Unless I do weekend and holiday shifts on a corporate escort / cocksucking service, a new Multi is out of the question. How long did you have it for? Any quirks? More words please!

Uhh, well...my first mistake was not taking it out of urban mode.

Besides that? It wheelies nicely, even with 100hp at the rear wheel, it jumps good, it hops curbs ok, the traction control is invasive when it's turned up (urban mode defaults to 7, with 8 being the highest), but the ultra adjustable mechanical suspension is awesome, the bike handles great, as you'd expect from ohlins. Hides it's weight very well.

The ABS won't let you stoppie, but was pretty good besides that. Still sounds like you're disassembling the front end with a hammer, you feel it cycle hard at the lever, but it does stop you. It's got every farkle known to freaking mankind, just toss the fob in the compartment for it, and press down on the kill switch to start the bike's electronics, flip it up to run, and then hit the starter to get the bike going. Very trick. I couldn't play with the electronics much because I was chasing 2 KTMs through seattle, keep up or be lost in an unfamiliar city, but it was a great crash course in what the bike is capable of, which is just about anything. Reminded me of my ZZR1200 in that it was a great bike just not for me.

I'll post up more thoughts on it when I write up my f'ing huge ride report. If I'd REALLY wanted one, I probably could have financed it, but I was honestly happier on my DRZ than on the new multi. It's a great bike, it's got a thousand and one features, it's got every toy you could ever dream of, it sounds wonderful, but in the end, it got kicked pretty firmly out of the "must own" territory. If I only had to live with one bike for the rest of my life and could never buy anything else, it'd probably be about the best choice on the market, but that's not a problem I have.

I hope the salesperson didn't notice the faint smell of burning rubber when I returned it. Turns out the TC does let you slide a little bit but it absolutely kills your drive if you overdo it. I'd be curious to try it again in sport mode with the TC turned down and see exactly how slideways I could get it before it forced me back into line.


I just toured 1350 miles on a 400cc single, don't :ughh: me over 75hp. ~55HP in the KTM690s is insane. 75 a lightweight twin should be fine. It's already up on an SV650.

Z3n fucked around with this message at 22:00 on Jul 13, 2010

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

drat, I would not have the balls to demo a bike in that manner. Sounds like a blast, but I'll be fat, rich, content and middle aged before I drop such amounts on a bike when there's so many great bikes available for cheap.

About the 75 hp, it's a Duc twin so it should be punchy but the Grand Canyon is not light weight, it weighs the same as my GSX. Thankfully, the guys at Cagiva thought the same thing so guess what they did? (maybe you all know this, but I was fairly clueless about the Cagiva ADV range apart from the fugly Elefant) Stuck a Suzuki 1000c V-twin in a new chassis that looks just as good!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0rl24H260c

There it is, search over. This is the bike I want.

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


just paint it black and red like the other one.

Retarted Pimple
Jun 2, 2002

Ola posted:

drat, I would not have the balls to demo a bike in that manner. Sounds like a blast, but I'll be fat, rich, content and middle aged before I drop such amounts on a bike when there's so many great bikes available for cheap.

About the 75 hp, it's a Duc twin so it should be punchy but the Grand Canyon is not light weight, it weighs the same as my GSX. Thankfully, the guys at Cagiva thought the same thing so guess what they did? (maybe you all know this, but I was fairly clueless about the Cagiva ADV range apart from the fugly Elefant) Stuck a Suzuki 1000c V-twin in a new chassis that looks just as good!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0rl24H260c

There it is, search over. This is the bike I want.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxym07iQXJU&feature=related

quote:

jabs posted
I'm in total agreement with you right up to the point where I kick the tailbag.
Just bend your knee as you kick your leg over.

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

Ok, you're right about my silly attitude to the HP numbers. Particularly when I checked just how cheap I can import a Gran Canyon from Germany. The same engine in the Duc 900SS makes only 80hp and I don't think it's known as a slouch. And if the police has thought me anything this year, absolute straight line power isn't all that useful.

Linedance: drat straight I would!

Retarded Pimp: I think by "1000 hp drag bike" they mean "hehe let's start it without pipes".

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

Ola posted:

drat, I would not have the balls to demo a bike in that manner. Sounds like a blast, but I'll be fat, rich, content and middle aged before I drop such amounts on a bike when there's so many great bikes available for cheap.

About the 75 hp, it's a Duc twin so it should be punchy but the Grand Canyon is not light weight, it weighs the same as my GSX. Thankfully, the guys at Cagiva thought the same thing so guess what they did? (maybe you all know this, but I was fairly clueless about the Cagiva ADV range apart from the fugly Elefant) Stuck a Suzuki 1000c V-twin in a new chassis that looks just as good!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0rl24H260c

There it is, search over. This is the bike I want.

I wasn't sure I had the balls to demo a bike in that manner. Then I was like "Well, this is fun!", and the rest just fell into line. Then again, it seems that I get struck by the crazy when I end up on other people's bikes anyways. Don't lend me your motorcycles.

But yeah, that's the problem...with 20k I could buy a street sumo, a trackbike, and go racing for at least 2-3 weekends. :v:

I think I've seen one cagiva over here before...

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe
With that motor in it, how's it compare to the big Strom, other than looking about ten times better? I'm hoping the frame is stronger/kit is better/bike is lighter, kind of thing.

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

Phy posted:

With that motor in it, how's it compare to the big Strom, other than looking about ten times better? I'm hoping the frame is stronger/kit is better/bike is lighter, kind of thing.

No idea. I tihnk it's slightly lighter. Obvious hold up is that Cagiva is not going very well so spare parts might be an issue, but that again means lower second hand prices.

Retarted Pimple
Jun 2, 2002

Ola posted:

Retarded Pimp: I think by "1000 hp drag bike" they mean "hehe let's start it without pipes".
I don't believe that it's 1000hp, I posted because it sounded sweet.

Armacham
Mar 3, 2007

Then brothers in war, to the skirmish must we hence! Shall we hence?

redscare posted:

I have the Givi case on it about 90% of the time, just swing the leg OVER the bag, brah

it was really fun doing this with the 45 liter givi case and 30 liter each saddlebags slung over the pillion on my KLR. I never knew I was that flexible

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm

Slim Pickens posted:

Get a free $9 RSV4 shirt. (9 bux is for shipping and handling)

http://www.pcxhost.com/store/st7/tp...8&source=launch
Thanks :v:

Gnomad
Aug 12, 2008
Well, here's hoping the $8.99 Priller shirt isn't a scam.

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe
Somebody already 12 o'clocked their brand new S model Multi around here recently

I had trouble figuring out the exact sequences to turn them on/off and get the steering lock to work haha

benwards
Apr 9, 2007

Another youthful indiscretion

lancemantis posted:

Somebody already 12 o'clocked their brand new S model Multi around here recently


What does this mean?

Armacham
Mar 3, 2007

Then brothers in war, to the skirmish must we hence! Shall we hence?

benwards posted:

What does this mean?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6N1pMZyHDQ

benwards
Apr 9, 2007

Another youthful indiscretion

That hurt to watch. My bike is my only transportation (besides my feet and the bus), and I really can't understand risking loving it all to hell like that.

infraboy
Aug 15, 2002

Phungshwei!!!!!!1123

I find it incredibly sad that maybe people just have so much extra money to spend on fairly expensive machines to play around with like this and do costly damage or possibly destroy a perfectly good bike able to do useful things like.... getting people to places?

Maybe i'm just a wuss and would never dream of doing stunting on something I spent decent money on.

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm
What is the difference between cartwheeling a bike down the track and looping a wheelie? Either way poo poo ends up broken and expensive.

needknees
Apr 4, 2006

Oh. My.

BlackMK4 posted:

What is the difference between cartwheeling a bike down the track and looping a wheelie? Either way poo poo ends up broken and expensive.

Someone at a recent trackday mentioned one of the most prophetic statements I've heard about motorcycling -- Ever.

"No matter how, why, or where you crash, you always end up on your wallet."

redscare
Aug 14, 2003

needknees posted:

Someone at a recent trackday mentioned one of the most prophetic statements I've heard about motorcycling -- Ever.

"No matter how, why, or where you crash, you always end up on your wallet."

Man, ain't that the truth.

I don't think "prophetic" is the right term though. It's not predicting anything, its just brutally, painfully true.

Slim Pickens
Jan 12, 2007

Grimey Drawer

Ola posted:

"I wonder if this might be my next bike?" Episode 23.

Cagiva Grand Canyon





The desmo engines aren't too hard to work on, except on a Gran Canyon. If you plan on doing belts or valves, also plan on partially removing that exhaust and other parts of the bike.

Edit: just double-checked my desmotimes guide and yeah, you gotta pry the horizontal cylinder's exhaust out of the way to change belts, and you pretty much have to drop the engine to change shims on the vertical cylinder(blocked by the frame).

Slim Pickens fucked around with this message at 07:38 on Jul 14, 2010

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

Slim Pickens posted:

The desmo engines aren't too hard to work on, except on a Gran Canyon. If you plan on doing belts or valves, also plan on partially removing that exhaust and other parts of the bike.

Edit: just double-checked my desmotimes guide and yeah, you gotta pry the horizontal cylinder's exhaust out of the way to change belts, and you pretty much have to drop the engine to change shims on the vertical cylinder(blocked by the frame).

Yeah, I've been reading all the threads on advrider and that vertical cylinder is a real bitch. I don't think you have to drop the engine, but you have to move the rear shock out of the way and to do that you need to remove the rear wheel. It's got to have some faults right? Otherwise it wouldn't be Italian.

Raven457
Aug 7, 2002
I bought Torquemada's torture equipment on e-bay!
Ducati building a cruiser?

http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/ducati/2011-ducati-mega-monster-spy-shots-89714.html

Slim Pickens
Jan 12, 2007

Grimey Drawer

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


Slim Pickens posted:



that had better hum and maybe crackle as it goes past...

karms
Jan 22, 2006

by Nyc_Tattoo
Yam Slacker
Nice scooter.

Slim Pickens
Jan 12, 2007

Grimey Drawer
It's a motorcycle, actually. It's based on a 1930 K.J. Henderson and was built for a WWI fighter pilot who became very interested in streamlining. It's a one-off, and the owner thinks it's worth seven figures.

bung
Dec 14, 2004


That wouldn't be the first Ducati cruiser. This is the Ducati Indiana from 1987.

bung fucked around with this message at 04:51 on Jul 15, 2010

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BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm

Slim Pickens posted:



That is.... kinda fuckin cool.

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