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raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

Haggins posted:

The advantage to the pelican is that it rolls and I can sit on it. Though you're right it does scream steal me.

Rolling works great in the Denver airport but in Asia not so much. Even in Japan there will be uneven streets, sidewalks inexplicably made out of nodules rather than flat surfaces, poo poo in the way, etc. In SE Asia you'll be in places even in Thailand where you have to drag your bag over 300m of gravel to get to where you want to go.

You can sit on the ground.

Also the money you'd waste on that stupid "indestructible" bag could be better spent on, say, another four or five days in the Cambodian jungle or on a Thai beach or getting a happy meal supersized in Tokyo. Especially since after you buy it someone will break it (probably one of the wheels) no matter how indestructible you thought it was and then someone else will steal it.

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victoryismine
May 28, 2005

I'm usually in the Japan thread but taking a trip to the SE Asia one for some vacay help. What is the best area to stay in Phuket as a single girl? So somewhere that is not sketchy, and where there are a lot of people around. Patong?

Pompous Rhombus
Mar 11, 2007
Hey Haggins, this is kinda Dorkroom material, but are you bringing a P&S camera? I saw an S90 with the underwater housing on Craigslist this morning, something like that would be the ultimate backpacking pocket camera.

victoryismine posted:

I'm usually in the Japan thread but taking a trip to the SE Asia one for some vacay help. What is the best area to stay in Phuket as a single girl? So somewhere that is not sketchy, and where there are a lot of people around. Patong?

I'd answer this but I have no idea, never been to Phuket. Sorry :(

Comedy answer: go to Pattaya.

R2ICustomerSupport
Dec 12, 2004

Does anyone know where I could buy a Microsoft Zune charger in Bangkok. I already tried Pontip plaza with no luck.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

victoryismine posted:

What is the best area to stay in Phuket as a single girl? So somewhere that is not sketchy, and where there are a lot of people around. Patong?

Patong has a lot of people and is the sleazy part of Phuket. So my answer would be 'anywhere, except Patong'

DustingDuvet posted:

Does anyone know where I could buy a Microsoft Zune charger in Bangkok. I already tried Pontip plaza with no luck.

I don't think I've ever seen a Zune for sale here, sorry. I assume you need the cable, as well as the wallwart - maybe get lucky with one of these all-in-one USB charger kits, but I am not confident.

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

Patong is the sleaziest and most disgusting place I have ever been in my entire life. Stay the gently caress out of Patong.

Pompous Rhombus
Mar 11, 2007

DustingDuvet posted:

Does anyone know where I could buy a Microsoft Zune charger in Bangkok. I already tried Pontip plaza with no luck.

You might try asking at an electronics store Paragon, Central World, or one of the other higher-end shopping malls. They may have them, or be able to point you to somewhere that does.

Alternatively, try getting in touch with these people: http://www.thaihandheldsgame.com/index.php?main_page=contact_us&zenid=4731ee0fc2c00502c754cc604f912ca1

R2ICustomerSupport
Dec 12, 2004

Thank you Slog and Pompous Rhombus. This thread delivers as always.

Crivens
Oct 25, 2003

I HAVENT BEEN ON ALT.TOLKIEN.IS.A.FAG FOR A LONG TIME, IVE BEEN BUSY BEATING OFF TO CRACKWHORE PORN
malaria tablets for SEA travel. Yea or Nay?

They are very expensive.

TheLizard
Oct 27, 2004

I am the Lizard Queen!

Crivens posted:

malaria tablets for SEA travel. Yea or Nay?

They are very expensive.

Depends where; some parts are malarial zones and some are not.

Crivens
Oct 25, 2003

I HAVENT BEEN ON ALT.TOLKIEN.IS.A.FAG FOR A LONG TIME, IVE BEEN BUSY BEATING OFF TO CRACKWHORE PORN

TheLizard posted:

Depends where; some parts are malarial zones and some are not.

Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam

Pompous Rhombus
Mar 11, 2007
Generally a "no", although I'm just waiting for some goon to get malaria and blame me. The newer stuff is supposed to be better, but when I tried doxycycline or whatever it made me way too photosensitive so I quit taking it. It was in the cool/dry season and there were hardly any mosquitoes around anyways (this is boondocks Cambodia and Laos). If you're going to be in very rural areas for extended period of time, and/or during the wet season, my answer would swing towards "maybe/yes", but I personally don't bother anymore. There are other mosquito-borne nasties you can get that either can't be vaccinated against (dengue fever) or the vaccine generally isn't worth it (Japanese B Encephalitis), so I find blanket anti-mosquito precautions to be the best method.

1) favor long pants/long sleeves, especially at night if you're going out.
2) insect repellent: spray it on your clothes. I usually do a spritz in my hair too, rather than actually spray it on my face.
3) at night, crank your fan up to max and sleep under a sheet. It's comfortable (I normally sleep that way anyways) and mosquitoes are lovely fliers who hate wind, so they'll go to ground and not bother you.
4) use a mosquito net if provided, I don't really sperg out if there isn't one (generally there aren't). You could bring your own but putting it up each night would probably be a PITA.

TheLizard
Oct 27, 2004

I am the Lizard Queen!
I agree with Pompous Rhombus; you'll have to hedge your bets. It's up to you; the risk of malaria in most places/times of year is very small, but all it takes is one infected mosquito.

I took mefloquine in Laos and didn't have any ill effects. Thankfully my insurance covered all but the copay so it was relatively inexpensive.

brendanwor
Sep 7, 2005

Yeah, the answer is generally 'no' unless you're heading way off the tourist trail into rural areas. You don't think that most nationals take malarial tablets, do you?

Crivens
Oct 25, 2003

I HAVENT BEEN ON ALT.TOLKIEN.IS.A.FAG FOR A LONG TIME, IVE BEEN BUSY BEATING OFF TO CRACKWHORE PORN

brendanwor posted:

Yeah, the answer is generally 'no' unless you're heading way off the tourist trail into rural areas. You don't think that most nationals take malarial tablets, do you?

I don't think most of the nationals can afford them, no.

(apparently much of laos lives on less than $1 a day - modern malaria pills cost up to £3.15 a pill (~$5) though I have seen them for about £2 a pill).

Still doesn't mean I want to risk getting malaria!

Pompous Rhombus
Mar 11, 2007

Crivens posted:

I don't think most of the nationals can afford them, no.

(apparently much of laos lives on less than $1 a day - modern malaria pills cost up to £3.15 a pill (~$5) though I have seen them for about £2 a pill).

Still doesn't mean I want to risk getting malaria!

Thailand has UHC and a history of pushing for cheap generics, but brendan is correct, locals don't take them.

Can't you get them cheap in the UK? When I was in Australia and under their Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme I got like a 2 month supply of malaria pills and 3 other "maybe" things for about AUD$100. When they told me how cheap the malarials would be I just said gently caress it, load me up.

Crivens
Oct 25, 2003

I HAVENT BEEN ON ALT.TOLKIEN.IS.A.FAG FOR A LONG TIME, IVE BEEN BUSY BEATING OFF TO CRACKWHORE PORN

Pompous Rhombus posted:

Thailand has UHC and a history of pushing for cheap generics, but brendan is correct, locals don't take them.

Can't you get them cheap in the UK? When I was in Australia and under their Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme I got like a 2 month supply of malaria pills and 3 other "maybe" things for about AUD$100. When they told me how cheap the malarials would be I just said gently caress it, load me up.

Thailand seems to be almost malaria free - it's laos/cambodia and the vietnam boarder (and burma and southern china) that are the problem spots in asia.

I don't think we can get them cheap. Certainly not the modern drugs. The less effective Paludrine and Chloroquine & Proguanil are reasonably priced but the modern Atovaquone-based treatments are still very expensive. The problem is that there is a big resistance to the older drugs in south east asia.

My browsing seems to suggest that you cannot get malaria pills on the NHS (our UHC) due to recent changes.

I've bought travel health insurance for the trip but I doubt it covers buying malaria pills in the UK.

I'm probably going to get all the shots the dr suggests (I see him tomorrow) because gently caress it, I do not want Japanese Encephalitis.

Ribsauce
Jul 29, 2006

Blacks in the back.

freebooter posted:

Patong is the sleaziest and most disgusting place I have ever been in my entire life. Stay the gently caress out of Patong.
Missed Pattaya I take it? I knew it was supposed to be sleazy, but I could not even imagine how bad it was. They had good windsurfing winds going that week, so I figured what the hell, booked a bus, and headed down.






I left 8 hours later haha

mrfart
May 26, 2004

Dear diary, today I
became a captain.

Pompous Rhombus posted:


4) use a mosquito net if provided, I don't really sperg out if there isn't one (generally there aren't). You could bring your own but putting it up each night would probably be a PITA.

I brought a net with me and used it most of the time.
Every place I stayed outside of bangkok had a hook or at least a hole in the ceiling from a previous traveller to hang up the net. It took less than 2 minutes to put it up and you can sleep without worries. And it was kinda fun sleeping under it with my gf.

Haggins
Jul 1, 2004

Pompous Rhombus posted:

Hey Haggins, this is kinda Dorkroom material, but are you bringing a P&S camera? I saw an S90 with the underwater housing on Craigslist this morning, something like that would be the ultimate backpacking pocket camera.

I picked up a S90 a couple months ago, love the poo poo out of it. I'm probably going to get the housing too, just need to get the cash together for it. As for other gear goes I'm going to bring my 50D 17-50 2.8, 580ex 2, 50 1.8 (may as well it's small), and I'm probably going to pick up a sigma 8-16.

I'm also debating on which 70-200 I want to buy. I don't think I want to go with the f4 so I'm thinking either the 2.8 non IS or IS II. The sigma 2.8 is also an option but I know I'm going to want to upgrade it and I don't think it'll hold its value as well as the canon. If I splurge for the IS II it'll be the last lens in that range I ever buy and it'll double as a 140-400 that's close to par with 100-400 if I get the 2x extender. That'll save me $1000 and I'd have to carry around one less lens.

/dorkroom

Pompous Rhombus
Mar 11, 2007

Haggins posted:

I picked up a S90 a couple months ago, love the poo poo out of it. I'm probably going to get the housing too, just need to get the cash together for it. As for other gear goes I'm going to bring my 50D 17-50 2.8, 580ex 2, 50 1.8 (may as well it's small), and I'm probably going to pick up a sigma 8-16.

I'm also debating on which 70-200 I want to buy. I don't think I want to go with the f4 so I'm thinking either the 2.8 non IS or IS II. The sigma 2.8 is also an option but I know I'm going to want to upgrade it and I don't think it'll hold its value as well as the canon. If I splurge for the IS II it'll be the last lens in that range I ever buy and it'll double as a 140-400 that's close to par with 100-400 if I get the 2x extender. That'll save me $1000 and I'd have to carry around one less lens.

/dorkroom

Even if you're not SCUBA diving I think the underwater housing is a good investment; you often find yourself around rivers and such, or in the rain (depending on season), or just generally wanting something to protect your camera from hazardous conditions. If you want to cut corners I think one of those Aquapac bags would probably be okay for everything except diving, but if you can afford it, the official housing would be a lot nicer.

I'd really recommend the f/4 as a travel lens tbh, I had that one and the portability is a huge asset. The image quality is amazing, you might get some more mileage out of it with a close-up filter as well. You will hate life lugging either of the f/2.8's around on a daily basis; and the f/2.8 (IS or not) is generally only needed if you're shooting indoors, which you seldom are in SEA. Just don't do this:



:smith:

How about a tripod? I can kind of see the pros and cons of bringing one versus not; I lost mine my first day in Laos and still got by okay (notable exception, my TLR with only ISO 100 film and an f/3.5 lens). My current tripod is a sturdy CF model that's relatively lightweight, but only has 2-section legs so it's not the most pack-able. Not sure what I'd do with it in a travel situation.

mrfart posted:

I brought a net with me and used it most of the time.
Every place I stayed outside of bangkok had a hook or at least a hole in the ceiling from a previous traveller to hang up the net. It took less than 2 minutes to put it up and you can sleep without worries. And it was kinda fun sleeping under it with my gf.

:3:

They seemed kind of hit-or-miss in most of the places I went, I guess you could carry tape or some other kind of adhesive to jerry-rig your own on the road. I did appreciate the net when a bat got into my bungalow in northern Laos. It couldn't figure its way out so eventually I had to get out of bed and open the door for it.

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

Crivens posted:

Thailand seems to be almost malaria free - it's laos/cambodia and the vietnam boarder (and burma and southern china) that are the problem spots in asia.

I don't think we can get them cheap. Certainly not the modern drugs. The less effective Paludrine and Chloroquine & Proguanil are reasonably priced but the modern Atovaquone-based treatments are still very expensive. The problem is that there is a big resistance to the older drugs in south east asia.

My browsing seems to suggest that you cannot get malaria pills on the NHS (our UHC) due to recent changes.

I've bought travel health insurance for the trip but I doubt it covers buying malaria pills in the UK.

I'm probably going to get all the shots the dr suggests (I see him tomorrow) because gently caress it, I do not want Japanese Encephalitis.

Did you read my health notes thingy?: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3260679#post371853945

You only need malaria prophylaxis if you're going to be literally hiking in the jungle for a week straight. Don't waste your money on them. Also, even the modern ones have fairly unpleasant side effects for many people. You'll be fine.

Your Dr. will suggest every shot he can think of. IMO a JE shot is also not needed unless there is a current outbreak (eg: if Googling for "Thailand Japanese Encephalitis" gives you news stories instead of vague health guides).

I lived in Thailand for two years and literally no local nor any foreign expat takes malaria pills unless they're a scientist trying to find some rare flower somewhere along the Laos/Cambodia border or some poo poo.

raton fucked around with this message at 03:13 on Aug 2, 2010

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat
Thailand still owns, but a couple of suggestions from someone who's there-

-"Finger your poophole" is a little inaccurate in the OP. Most bathrooms I've used have had a sprayer akin to one you find on a sink, and you just blast your butthole with that (feels good man). And if a place gets any sort of tourism, it will have a single, probably half-gone roll of toilet paper. You have to go pretty far out to get the whole splash yourself experience. You can buy TP here too, of course.

-Speaking of poop, for the love of God bring those poo pills the OP mentions. I'm pushing 48 hours on a diarrhea bender and while it's gotten a lot better, that's still two days without a solid turd AND that's on top of 36-hour stint I had about a week ago. I'd be worried that I have some terrible disease but my girlfriend's dad got it too shortly after my first bout (he eats about 6000 calories a day though so who knows), and I feel fine otherwise. To be safe, avoid dairy if you can; I think what did me in were these drinkable yogurts that are kind of runny, can't recall the name. If anyone knows of some meds I can get here to solidify my poop, that'd be...well, solid.

-Make friends with locals. They can tell you where all the best stuff is and help you avoid the worst (like nasty street vendors). Thai people are also very close-knit and you never know what sort of connections they may have; a college buddy of my girlfriend's dad hooked us up with second-row tickets to Alcazar Cabaret in Pattaya. Google it, it's...something.

C-Euro fucked around with this message at 15:57 on Aug 2, 2010

Ringo R
Dec 25, 2005

ช่วยแม่เฮ็ดนาแหน่เดัอ

victoryismine posted:

I'm usually in the Japan thread but taking a trip to the SE Asia one for some vacay help. What is the best area to stay in Phuket as a single girl? So somewhere that is not sketchy, and where there are a lot of people around. Patong?

I think Kata or Karon beach should be a pretty good place to stay. I've never stayed there but it looks a lot nicer than Patong. Avoid Patong.

Ribsauce posted:

I left 8 hours later haha

You missed out, man.

Pompous Rhombus posted:

I'd really recommend the f/4 as a travel lens tbh, I had that one and the portability is a huge asset.

Yes, get the f/4. f/2.8 is way overkill.

C-Euro posted:

and you just blast your butthole with that (feels good man).

:D So how's your girlfriend family treating you? Are you in Pattaya?

Pompous Rhombus
Mar 11, 2007

C-Euro posted:

-Speaking of poop, for the love of God bring those poo pills the OP mentions. I'm pushing 48 hours on a diarrhea bender and while it's gotten a lot better, that's still two days without a solid turd AND that's on top of 36-hour stint I had about a week ago. I'd be worried that I have some terrible disease but my girlfriend's dad got it too shortly after my first bout (he eats about 6000 calories a day though so who knows), and I feel fine otherwise. To be safe, avoid dairy if you can; I think what did me in were these drinkable yogurts that are kind of runny, can't recall the name. If anyone knows of some meds I can get here to solidify my poop, that'd be...well, solid.

-Make friends with locals. They can tell you where all the best stuff is and help you avoid the worst (like nasty street vendors). Thai people are also very close-knit and you never know what sort of connections they may have; a college buddy of my girlfriend's dad hooked us up with second-row tickets to Alcazar Cabaret in Pattaya. Google it, it's...something.

Immodium, man. I got a pretty wretched case in Laos my first time traveling in SEA, popped a dose or two down the hatch (evening and one again the next morning, IIRC) and it cleared up right away.

I like yogurt but ugh not those things. Also beware of the milk with the green label; it's sweetened and nasty as all get out (although should be harmless).

Pompous Rhombus fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Aug 2, 2010

Fiskenbob
Mar 28, 2007

When we have more time, I'll acquaint you with the various processes of sculptoring. It's a fascinating art to which I devoted many hours of study.
Yeah, get Immodium, every pharmacy in every tourist area will have it. I bought some on Phi Phi and it sorted me out pretty much instantly. Didn't take a dump for like three days though, but that's kinda the point.



@victoryismine, I (unfortunately) had to stay four-five days on Phuket when I was in Thailand, and from what I saw Karon beach was definitely the nicest. I stayed there, and even though it is far from great compared to many many other beaches on other islands I'd say it was good by Phuket standards. Thousands of sun beds though, so you might not be able to see it.

Haggins
Jul 1, 2004

Ringo R posted:

Yes, get the f/4. f/2.8 is way overkill.

I agree if I were just buying it for this 4 months to a year long trip, but I plan on doing weddings eventually and would like something I can use inside. Even if I buy the is II I'm still I'm still looking at a travel budget of ~$25000 for 2011.

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat

Ringo R posted:

:D So how's your girlfriend family treating you? Are you in Pattaya?

Apart from her shitheel brother that her parents refuse to discipline (nothing new to me, he lived with her in the States for the past year), things are great. Pattaya was a week ago and we were gonna go to Chiang Mai this past weekend, but her dad was sick of driving so we've been bumming around the area around her hometown Phitsanulok. Nice place, it was the first capitol of Thailand so there's a lot of historic stuff around, which I dig. It's also halfway between Burma and Cambodia, as well as being the point where the "mountainous North" begins. So there's a lot to do.
Also I was reminded just now that there's a pair of geckos living in my room, either in the curtain mounts or the AC unit. And a bird built a nest right on my window so I can't just chase them out that way :( They make this horrible, loud lizard chirp too.

Pompous Rhombus
Mar 11, 2007

Haggins posted:

I agree if I were just buying it for this 4 months to a year long trip, but I plan on doing weddings eventually and would like something I can use inside. Even if I buy the is II I'm still I'm still looking at a travel budget of ~$25000 for 2011.

You can likely resell it for at least 85% of what you paid for it if you buy it used though.

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
yakult.chat.thread



avoid dairy in asia they're terrible at it for the most part

quote:

If anyone knows of some meds I can get here to solidify my poop, that'd be...well, solid.

If you go into a Thai pharmacy and make a farting noise while using your hand to demonstrate your explosive diarrhea they'll give you something for it that'll work. The generic name for Immodium AD is Loperamide, try writing that down and handing it to the worker in the pharmacy too -- that may or may not work.

raton fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Aug 2, 2010

Ribsauce
Jul 29, 2006

Blacks in the back.
Pompous when you rode your motorcycle what was your luggage setup? By this I guess I mean what did you do with your backpack, assuming you had one? Did you just use saddlebags?

I'm about to set up my motorcycle for camping in America and I want to try to get it similar to what a typical Vietnam setup is because I'm treating all my motorcycle ride as training/preparation for buying a bike in Vietnam and doing all of SE Asia. It is a Ninja 250 so it will not be as weak as a Minsk but I guess kinda close? Closest I can ride here at least. Anyways, what is the most common set up?

Pompous Rhombus
Mar 11, 2007

Ribsauce posted:

Pompous when you rode your motorcycle what was your luggage setup? By this I guess I mean what did you do with your backpack, assuming you had one? Did you just use saddlebags?

I'm about to set up my motorcycle for camping in America and I want to try to get it similar to what a typical Vietnam setup is because I'm treating all my motorcycle ride as training/preparation for buying a bike in Vietnam and doing all of SE Asia. It is a Ninja 250 so it will not be as weak as a Minsk but I guess kinda close? Closest I can ride here at least. Anyways, what is the most common set up?

I had two vinyl-type saddlebags that the guy at the shop said were originally intended for a Honda* (they came with the Future I originally rented for a 1-week trip, liked them so much I asked the guy to buy me a set at the market). There's a standard type that come with a Minsk but they're lovely; not a lot of capacity, leaky, and Cheesemaster had them fall off and get most of his belongings lost. The Honda-type ones hold a pretty good amount (almost as much capacity as my army duffle bag, which is huge by backpacking standards), are pretty much rainproof, and feel secure. You still want to tie them down with bungee cords to keep them from sliding around on your panniers. They cost somewhere between $25-35, although I might have been paying a bit of a mark-up because I bought them through the shop. They were well-worth it at any rate; no problems. They also each had an external pocket which was great for holding a spare thing of 2 stroke oil on one side, and a 1.5L bottle of water on the other. Most backpackers will just tie their big bag with everything on the back, but I personally don't like that solution; it raises the center of gravity and makes the bike more tippy, makes it harder to take on a passenger, and isn't as convenient for accessing your stuff.

You definitely want panniers to support the weight of the saddlebags. In SEA, if your bike doesn't already come with them (many do, since people use them for hauling all sorts of stuff rather than as a toy on the weekends) it's really easy to get a guy to knock you up a pair, shouldn't cost more than $30-40.

I tied my duffelbag (mostly empty; carried my spare parts, toiletries, and dirty laundry in it) down to the rear rack with some straps made from old innertubes that the Vietnamese guy gave me. I don't recommend this method because I lost a tripod and later the dufflebag itself from offroading. It's not that I don't trust the luggage rack, I just don't trust my own ability to tie down a strip of rubber perfectly every morning. Bungee cords are a better bet. I wasn't worried about the saddlebags coming lose because there's no way I wouldn't have noticed the weight missing, and they're just generally more secure by the way they're attached to the bike. I felt okay using the rubber straps with those, but bungee cords are still less of a pain in the rear end.

I also had a smaller sling-type bag on my back, which had my camera, guidebook, phrasebook, map, and other essentials. I loosened the strap enough that I could rest it on the seat behind me while riding, that way it wasn't constantly putting weight on my shoulder. (I freely admit to carrying more poo poo on me than most people; I'm fairly serious about photography and also had some Thai study materials with me.)

*they aren't actually Honda brand or anything (might be homemade for all I know, didn't see a tag on them or anything.)



Start of journey



Trimmed down :(

The set up will be a bit different but it can't hurt to practice on your Ninja: I gather that it would be a much smoother ride (I really need to try a proper motorcycle someday). After a full day of straight riding my hands would get a bit numb from the vibration of the Minsk. It didn't last for too long after I got off the bike, but I'd usually take a break every few hours to stretch, pee, take a drink of water, etc if there wasn't something I was already stopping for. There's also not really as much a need to camp since accommodation is so cheap. I kind wish I'd had my old hammock + mosquito net with me as a fallback, but not sure about a tent. The one night I had to spend outside we got eaten alive by these ridiculously hostile jungle ants, and that was in a dwelling raised like 4 feet off the ground. They actually chewed up this girl's purse even though there was no food in it, and got into her mobile phone and ruined it.

Also, drat you if you beat me to the "buy a Minsk and see how far you can get before it blows up" plan! :argh:

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

Pompous Rhombus posted:

Most backpackers will just tie their big bag with everything on the back, but I personally don't like that solution; it raises the center of gravity and makes the bike more tippy, makes it harder to take on a passenger, and isn't as convenient for accessing your stuff.

I used two saddlebags and also strapped my huge bag down. I was seriously worried about the bike being able to carry all my poo poo (I'm on a RTW trip so unlike most SE Asia backpackers I have more than just board shorts and a Tubing in the Vang Vieng Laos singlet), but once you actually get here and see some of the ludicrously huge things the locals carry around on the backs of their bikes, you forget about it.

We were travelling with a British guy for a while who had his girlfriend on the back, plus both of their 70 litre backpacks stacked on top of each other. It was a thing to behold. I tried riding his bike just after we arrived in Hue and the bags were still on it and I made it about five metres before it wobbled out of control and I nearly dropped it. But, hey, he managed it.

Ribsauce
Jul 29, 2006

Blacks in the back.

Pompous Rhombus posted:

Also, drat you if you beat me to the "buy a Minsk and see how far you can get before it blows up" plan! :argh:
I'm not sure when I'll go but that is the plan. I'm just going to buy one in Vietnam and either ride it until
A) I don't want to anymore and I sell it
B) I run out of money and/or have to go home for another reason and I sell it
C) I ride it a for a few months, beat the crap out of it, it blows up far enough away from Vietnam it would be a pain to fix, and I just leave it with anyone who wants it for free and roll on (is this possible by the way?)

Oh yea, I've been to SE Asia before, no way I'm camping in that heat instead of paying 8 bucks for a room. Camping would be around where I live (North Carolina) where we have cool parks and stuff. Thanks for the answer, it was very helpful. I almost think my best bet is to buy some piece of crap bag just to get my stuff over there, and once I get the bike and panniers just dump the bag in the trashcan and roll on, and if I sell the bike just buy one in asia.

Unfortunately I have plenty of time to think about this haha ... :(

I actually bought my motorcycle after my last asia trip because I was so pissed off I didn't know how to ride anything but a scooter and I was so jealous of those Euros ripping around on dirt bikes. Now its my turn (at some point!)

Ribsauce fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Aug 3, 2010

Pompous Rhombus
Mar 11, 2007

freebooter posted:

We were travelling with a British guy for a while who had his girlfriend on the back, plus both of their 70 litre backpacks stacked on top of each other. It was a thing to behold. I tried riding his bike just after we arrived in Hue and the bags were still on it and I made it about five metres before it wobbled out of control and I nearly dropped it. But, hey, he managed it.

It would have been easier at speed, just about everything's wobbly until 10-15mph or so. Saddlebags definitely balance better though.

Ribsauce posted:

I'm not sure when I'll go but that is the plan. I'm just going to buy one in Vietnam and either ride it until
A) I don't want to anymore and I sell it
B) I run out of money and/or have to go home for another reason and I sell it
C) I ride it a for a few months, beat the crap out of it, it blows up far enough away from Vietnam it would be a pain to fix, and I just leave it with anyone who wants it for free and roll on (is this possible by the way?)[quote]

One thing you've got to watch out for if you're in another country is whether they've made a note in your passport that you brought the bike in. From what I can tell in my passport Laos didn't, but I've heard anecdotally I've heard that some countries do, to make sure you aren't selling the bike there. Countries like Thailand slap like an 80% tariff on imported motorbikes, so getting it plated (legally) can be a big pain in the rear end for a potential new owner. IIRC the temporary import permit in Laos was tied to my passport as well, which could create some headaches at the border/finance office if the person needs to renew it. I'm not saying it's too difficult to bother with or anything, but there are a lot of potential hassles to outright selling the bike outside its country of origin, so if you're going that route you may want to check with the police, immigration/government or something. (That's the main reason why the idea of just riding one into the ground appeals to me.)

[quote]Oh yea, I've been to SE Asia before, no way I'm camping in that heat instead of paying 8 bucks for a room. Camping would be around where I live (North Carolina) where we have cool parks and stuff. Thanks for the answer, it was very helpful. I almost think my best bet is to buy some piece of crap bag just to get my stuff over there, and once I get the bike and panniers just dump the bag in the trashcan and roll on, and if I sell the bike just buy one in asia.

This is actually where the army surplus dufflebag will shine. You can smoosh it down really small and toss it in the bottom of your saddlebag for the trip, and just pull it out and dump the contents of your saddlebags into it when you're ready to leave the bike. After I lost mine, I wound up buying a huge fake North Face back in Hanoi for $15, but my original plan was to re-use the duffle.

chockomonkey
Oct 14, 2004

C-Euro posted:

Apart from her shitheel brother that her parents refuse to discipline (nothing new to me, he lived with her in the States for the past year), things are great. Pattaya was a week ago and we were gonna go to Chiang Mai this past weekend, but her dad was sick of driving so we've been bumming around the area around her hometown Phitsanulok. Nice place, it was the first capitol of Thailand so there's a lot of historic stuff around, which I dig. It's also halfway between Burma and Cambodia, as well as being the point where the "mountainous North" begins. So there's a lot to do.
Also I was reminded just now that there's a pair of geckos living in my room, either in the curtain mounts or the AC unit. And a bird built a nest right on my window so I can't just chase them out that way :( They make this horrible, loud lizard chirp too.

They'll eat the poo poo out of the bugs though! I always welcomed them as guests to keep other things away >_>

Ringo R
Dec 25, 2005

ช่วยแม่เฮ็ดนาแหน่เดัอ
A Thai goon must've made this

Crivens
Oct 25, 2003

I HAVENT BEEN ON ALT.TOLKIEN.IS.A.FAG FOR A LONG TIME, IVE BEEN BUSY BEATING OFF TO CRACKWHORE PORN
So if I'm travelling to SEA with just carry on luggage, what do most people do about toiletries? Just pick them up in Bangkok? There's a 100ml limit, right?

Is sun-cream readily available over there? I am going to need it or else I will self-combust.

Also am I right to think that nail-clippers will be a no-go on the flight if I only have carry-on? :(

lemonadesweetheart
May 27, 2010

Crivens posted:

So if I'm travelling to SEA with just carry on luggage, what do most people do about toiletries? Just pick them up in Bangkok? There's a 100ml limit, right?

Is sun-cream readily available over there? I am going to need it or else I will self-combust.

Also am I right to think that nail-clippers will be a no-go on the flight if I only have carry-on? :(

Crivens, most big cities in SEA will carry all of that kind of stuff, including nail clippers. You're not heading into the deep jungles or anything. Hell you should be able to pick up almost everything you mentioned here in the airport when you arrive with no problem. Just get it when you arrive in Bangkok.

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raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

Crivens posted:

So if I'm travelling to SEA with just carry on luggage, what do most people do about toiletries? Just pick them up in Bangkok? There's a 100ml limit, right?

Is sun-cream readily available over there? I am going to need it or else I will self-combust.

Also am I right to think that nail-clippers will be a no-go on the flight if I only have carry-on? :(

How long is your vacation? If it's a month just cut your nails before you go and you'll probably make it -- if not, you'll be able to find nail clippers. The clippers (and your razor) are of course super lethal weapons and not allowable on flights.

These days when I travel I bring a tiny tube of toothpaste and a small bottle of body wash that I use for my body and for my hair and as shaving cream if I can't find soap when I get there. Usually I can find soap when I get there so I end up lugging around the body wash for no reason.

They have sun tan lotion and good mosquito repellent in Bangkok. Bring at least one long sleeved button up shirt for sun protection though -- especially for scuba diving and whatnot, it's a lot easier and less messy to just wear your shirt into the water than to slather on this lovely lotion and then have it wash off and later explode in your pack.

All of this poo poo will be in a 7-11 in a tourist area. All tourist areas have tons of 7-11s.

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