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TeMpLaR posted:Some of you may remember me complaining about my mirror being knocked off by a snowplow, and my car also being keyed. It was keyed again on Monday and I have had enough. You could get some of that 3m clear bra, wrap stuff and then laugh at people when they *try* to key your car. 
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Or, you could start rallycrossing so your paint gets hosed up by rocks and dirt instead of morons.
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Aug 6, 2010 16:38
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Seat Safety Switch posted:Or, you could start rallycrossing so your paint gets hosed up by rocks and dirt instead of morons. This is a good idea.
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Aug 6, 2010 16:53
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And it'd be a using the car for what it was intended for!
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Aug 6, 2010 17:06
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TeMpLaR posted:This is a good idea.
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Aug 6, 2010 17:08
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edit: more of a stupid question than a subaru question. What is the best bang for the buck, after an access port(or tires or driving classes or auto-x), that you can do to an 04 WRX? vains fucked around with this message at 01:29 on Aug 7, 2010 |
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Aug 7, 2010 01:23
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TeMpLaR posted:Some of you may remember me complaining about my mirror being knocked off by a snowplow, and my car also being keyed. It was keyed again on Monday and I have had enough. Where are you located? My buddy is in the market for an unmolested STI at the moment and has cash in hand. PM me, or email me - <username> @ gmail
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Aug 7, 2010 02:00
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Veins McGee posted:edit: more of a stupid question than a subaru question. Well what are you looking to get? Power, handling, etc? If you want more power the next step would be an aftermarket downpipe (at which time you can use Stage 2 OTS maps). If you want better handling probably going with some 22mm swaybars front and rear would give you some more precise handling characteristics. DP's go from $200-$600 depending on if you want it cat'd or not. Sway bars are about $150 each.
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Aug 8, 2010 02:39
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Amandyke posted:If you want more power the next step would be an aftermarket downpipe (at which time you can use Stage 2 OTS maps). Isn't a down-pipe alone going to be limited still? My understanding was that you have to do both a DP and exhaust to open the thing up, otherwise you're just moving the bottleneck point back and thus why the AP's stage two wants both.
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Aug 8, 2010 05:23
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FormulaXFD posted:Isn't a down-pipe alone going to be limited still? My understanding was that you have to do both a DP and exhaust to open the thing up, otherwise you're just moving the bottleneck point back and thus why the AP's stage two wants both. However, the WRX exhaust is not as free-flowing so I dunno.
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Aug 8, 2010 05:45
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Yeah just the downpipe and a flash makes a huge difference. Like I said a few pages ago, we put just a downpipe and intake on a forester xt, and tuned it, and made 250 at the wheels. Not exactly sure about the dyno but a stock car should make 180-200
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Aug 8, 2010 07:05
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jamal posted:Yeah just the downpipe and a flash makes a huge difference. Do Foresters the same exhaust as a WRX? How hard is it to find used 2nd gen AP's and what would I expect to pay for one? I feel like if I take my car to Surgeline for a tune-up then I might want to pick up the AP at the same time and flash it... a new DP might be in the budget as well. I think I should probably take advantage of having Tim Bailey in our backyard at some point.
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Aug 8, 2010 08:48
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Yeah an 04-08 forester xt drivetrain is identical to an 06-07 wrx. Then after 08 I don't think they put the bigger turbo in the forester. Buy all the drat parts you can before you get a tune. When you see tim tell him a guy he's been to roscoes with sent you.
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Aug 8, 2010 08:58
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Having been lightly sold with the AP, I'm picking up a DP but will need to add a cat to it, plus it doesn't use the donut gasket so I'll be having to fab the rest of the exhaust. Having the parts ready to go is kinda hard if you want to be cheap. When Tim/Surgeline quoted me for the stuff they carry (off the shelf and ready to go, catted as well) it came out to $1700. So if you go the route of parts in hand, be ready to pay for it (And their exhaust still has the defacto rice tip  ).
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Aug 8, 2010 10:25
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Veins McGee posted:edit: more of a stupid question than a subaru question. Alignment.
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Aug 8, 2010 13:08
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MMD3 posted:How hard is it to find used 2nd gen AP's and what would I expect to pay for one? I feel like if I take my car to Surgeline for a tune-up then I might want to pick up the AP at the same time and flash it... a new DP might be in the budget as well. AP's are 350-400 bucks used and you should be able to find a downpipe for 100 bucks. Check NWIC on Nasioc (*shudder* I hate nasioc as much as the next guy, but the regional forums aren't so bad) you'll find what you need in the for sale section. MMD3 posted:I think I should probably take advantage of having Tim Bailey in our backyard at some point. This is my plan as well as I'm in Portland. You may also want to look into what an intake is worth power wise on your car, I've seen them squeeze another 15-20hp on some cars with a custom tune. If you're impatient or not wanting to put out another 350-400 bucks for a custom tune the Cobb off the shelf maps are pretty great. If you're uncomfortable with doing the downpipe install I'd be happy to help you out.
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Aug 8, 2010 15:09
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Cat Terrist posted:Alignment. Should be done regardless on the ground of being basic maintenance.
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Aug 8, 2010 16:26
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I'm stunned at how much of a difference my performance alignment made. I'm assuming Subaru just kept the stock alignment setup to keep morons from killing themselves, because now it feels like if I were just going fast enough and had bald enough tires I could do 180s in place. It's so agile that now I finally understand how guys can do autocross without massive understeer all the time. Sadly, the alignment found that some part of my right front suspension is tweaked, but to such a small extent that it's difficult to figure out which piece is at fault. I pull a little to the right on crowned roads when decelerating, so I think it might be the control arm.
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Aug 8, 2010 19:58
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Any recommended turbo back exhausts? I'm guessing that they're all more or less the same and it really depends on your preference for sound/looks. (04 WRX)
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Aug 8, 2010 21:22
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allonblack posted:AP's are 350-400 bucks used and you should be able to find a downpipe for 100 bucks. Check NWIC on Nasioc (*shudder* I hate nasioc as much as the next guy, but the regional forums aren't so bad) you'll find what you need in the for sale section. oh awesome, another Subie owner in Portland! whereabouts are you? what are some good brands I should be looking into? do used Cobb DP's go up on NASIOC very often?
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Aug 8, 2010 21:59
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Cat Terrist posted:Alignment. I just had my 07 wrx wagon aligned, but I since I was doing it to fix some uneven tire wear I just had it done stock. If I wanted a "performance" alignment, what do I tell them to set it to? Or do I have to go to someone special?
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Aug 8, 2010 22:50
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Lots of negative camber in the front. Its not possible to have too much with the stock adjusters. I run -2.5 on the street and my tires wear pretty even. Just a touch extra wear on the inside, but over a whole set it wasn't a problem. As for exhaust, cobb uses the stock donut gasket. If you want a full turboback get something that is 3" all the way through. You also want a downpipe with a nice cast bellmouth. Cobb, harman motive, and plenty of other places do this. lovely ebay ones are stretched out steel that is likely to crack.
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Aug 8, 2010 23:04
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Here is a cellphone photo of the alignment specs my guy dialled in for my 06 (my scanner is broken as hell). I am lowered 22mm. You can see where he had to do a little bit (0.5°) of compensate for my RF caster. edit: Jesus, this is a terrible photo. If you can't read these lines out properly I'll try to take a scan at work later. Jamal, any insight into how my car has been set up? The guy who did it is a local from the club whose autocross '03 WRX sedan turns like a Miata on PCP.  Click here for the full 966x1133 image.
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Aug 8, 2010 23:23
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FormulaXFD posted:Should be done regardless on the ground of being basic maintenance. There's alignments... and there's real alignments, which change the whole character of the car and make it much quicker around a track with the understeer gone. The standard Subaru setting are not very good.... okay they are a bucket of poo poo. The other thing that you cant get too much of is castor. Anti lift kits, free castor mods and spacers, STI / SpecC front control arms.... all exceptional ideas. And I add, if there is a camber curves issue (which there isnt) this is the way you fix it.
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Cat Terrist posted:There's alignments... Well this makes sense, given all the stuff I've been learning about how Subaru designs their cars. My own personal failure at life was thinking the STi was a WRX "completed," instead of both models being different "levels" with 'starter' settings out of the box (as in, this will get you to the shop where you're going to get poo poo done). [Not a ding on Subaru - the context is that where the WRX's components run out of steam, the STi is just getting started.] I still have to replace my short-lived factory struts with the RCE Coil-overs. Seat Safety Switch posted:
I'm not sure what part of these settings are "mods," but eh here you go. A pretty excel spreadsheet. FormulaXFD fucked around with this message at 02:10 on Aug 9, 2010 |
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Aug 9, 2010 01:48
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Cat Terrist posted:The other thing that you cant get too much of is castor. Anti lift kits, free castor mods and spacers, STI / SpecC front control arms.... all exceptional ideas. And I add, if there is a camber curves issue (which there isnt) this is the way you fix it. I just kind of trust that more camber = better, and so I'm going to get an anti-lift kit after the sway bars. The guy who set my car up recommended the Whiteline camber plate instead of the anti-lift kit, which is another option for about the same cost, but I can't properly determine the difference if any. I know that McStruts' weakness is basically their complete lack of adjustable camber (and it's understandable since it comes from the Impreza, a relatively cheapo car compared to the STI and WRX).
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FormulaXFD posted:Well this makes sense, given all the stuff I've been learning about how Subaru designs their cars. My own personal failure at life was thinking the STi was a WRX "completed," instead of both models being different "levels" with 'starter' settings out of the box (as in, this will get you to the shop where you're going to get poo poo done). [Not a ding on Subaru - the context is that where the WRX's components run out of steam, the STi is just getting started.] Well yep, the truth is that the STI is in no way where you go when the WRX is being maxed out - if you really want to go a long way you have to replace so many components that the base WRX really is the place to start - the only things that I would consider unquiely good would be the 6 speed gearbox and the R180 diff / hubs / driveshafts. Even then, there's plenty of internals that need to be changed. The "completed" Subaru would be a full house Group N SpecC with the ludicous brakes, the plated diff, different (forged) engine internals, lightweight panels etc etc etc. The real beauty about how Subaru does the WRX (which you have noted pretty well there) is just how interchangable all these parts actually are and how easy it is to even start with a RS and build all the way to Lord knows what. Some of the standard stuff is comically tragic.
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An update on the STI - I decided to keep it. I am doing something that some of you may deem sacrilegious: I am going to replace the wing with the STI Limited spoiler. If it gets keyed again I am selling it.
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TeMpLaR posted:An update on the STI - I decided to keep it. I am doing something that some of you may deem sacrilegious: I am going to replace the wing with the STI Limited spoiler.
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TeMpLaR posted:An update on the STI - I decided to keep it. I am doing something that some of you may deem sacrilegious: I am going to replace the wing with the STI Limited spoiler. Don't forget about that 3m invisible bra stuff... http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/...m/VentureShield Also where are you parking you car when it's getting keyed? I'm sure you've already thought about it, but perhaps moving the car to a different location might prevent such things from happening?
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Amandyke posted:Also where are you parking you car when it's getting keyed? I'm sure you've already thought about it, but perhaps moving the car to a different location might prevent such things from happening? My 2.5i was keyed within the first 3 months of owning it and I'm in a place where almost every third car on the road is a Subaru. Then I started taking minor door dings so I went out of my way to park far away: in a parking lot I'll go 10-spaces away from the next open spot closer to the store, and I'll still come out to find that some chucklefuck decided to wipe his door across mine. Sometimes you just can't do poo poo to avoid trouble like that because people are cunts.
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MMD3 posted:oh awesome, another Subie owner in Portland! I'm in NE near Mall 205. Not sure where you are, but there's lots of meets going on right now if you're at all interested in hanging out with a bunch of strangers  . They can be pretty fun truth be told, and with summer winding down they're likely to get fewer and fewer. Wednesday night we meet in the now defunct circut city parking lot in Beaverton across the street from Washington Square. Here's a few of the meets that are coming up - Cobb/Surgeline open house and swap meet - http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2014540&highlight=swap+meet Perrin Performance Airshow/Open house - http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2036074&highlight=swap+meet Dick Hannah Subaru meetup - http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2024881 And the weekly Wednesday meet - http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1999826 Jamal may be able to chime in here and give you more info on what downpipes are worthwhile - but as far as I'm concerned a downpipe is a downpipe. The real choice is if you go with a divorced wastegate, and catted vs. non-catted.
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Any of you guys installed a brake master cylinder brace? I'm looking at the Turn in Concepts brace because my brake feel is awful. It looks like an easy install, and it's probably cheaper than experimenting with rotors/pads/lines.
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allonblack posted:Jamal may be able to chime in here and give you more info on what downpipes are worthwhile - but as far as I'm concerned a downpipe is a downpipe. The real choice is if you go with a divorced wastegate, and catted vs. non-catted. I'm in the same boat as "a downpipe is a downpipe." The only differentiator is whether it was made well, meaning the bends are smooth, few in count and without kinks. Cobb/Surgeline sells one of the only catted DPs I've found at a sticker of $600. I bought a Godspeed bellmouth catless dp for $100. Blew $110 on a magnaflow spun cat, so for $210 I can get a catted DP. Huzzah for being able to TIG.
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allonblack posted:I'm in NE near Mall 205. Not sure where you are, but there's lots of meets going on right now if you're at all interested in hanging out with a bunch of strangers I'm in SE, just off Burnside by Laurelhurst Park but I work in Beaverton at Nike so I know exactly where that parking lot is. I think I actually went to a Nissan meet there back when I had my old car. I'm not a die-hard, talk about my car a lot Subie owner so I've always been a bit out of place at car meets but it might be a good way to find out about used AP's or DP's and get some idea of what people have done to their cars. Maybe I'll come out to one later this summer, will let you know if I do. Thanks for the info, I suppose I should just keep an eye on NASIOC's regional forum when I'm ready to buy but I need to get some auto-body work done first. Here's the Saabaru pre-ditch
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I should give you a ride since I work in Tanasbourne. "Here's the STi on stock map. Here it is on Stage 1 AP."
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And I just got back from the dealer... My grinding sound in my 02 RS is in the transmission. We just put a new clutch in and now according to the dealer tech, the front diff is grinding. They advised replacing the whole thing. I'm looking for a 5speed with the help of the local Subaru club. I'm going to be pissed if somehow me DIY'in my clutch managed to poo poo up my transmission.
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FormulaXFD posted:I should give you a ride since I work in Tanasbourne. "Here's the STi on stock map. Here it is on Stage 1 AP." ahhhh, that'd be rad actually didn't know you were in town too... cool to know there's a small group of you in town, especially ones that know after market exhaust if I choose to go that route 
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Slow is Fast posted:And I just got back from the dealer...
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Seat Safety Switch posted:You should look for an STI transmission and axles, although I wonder if the gearing is really suitable for an NA motor. Six forward gears! DCCD! Launching all day at half the load it was designed for! As awesome as that would be, an STi setup is worth literally more than my car.
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