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CaptainScraps posted:You know it. I knew Fred slightly and their #3 gets lunch with me every now and then... no offer. They are a tough cookie to crack. At least he's open to helping me get my mass tort thing going.
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Roger_Mudd posted:They are a tough cookie to crack. a what, cookies are those little chocolate chip biscuits and they're very easy to crack thank you
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Roger_Mudd posted:I knew Fred slightly and their #3 gets lunch with me every now and then... no offer. They are a tough cookie to crack. At least he's open to helping me get my mass tort thing going. To be fair, a plaintiff's firm offering $160 K a year for a first year associate is loving AMAZING. Mass tort thing you say? 
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Working either side of that issue is, in my opinion, horrible. My wife was a paralegal at a plaintiff-side mass tort firm for a while, and it looked like an absolutely miserable practice area, for both the plaintiff and defendant attorneys. Just gross.
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billion dollar bitch posted:During interviews, when they ask if you have any questions, do you think that I should mention things on their firm profile? Is this too gauche? Also, if you have any interview tips in general, I would love to hear them. Seconding the request for interviews tips. Have interviews with some big firms in KC and STL next week and I am terrified.
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CaptainScraps posted:Mass tort thing you say? Yeah I posted about it a while back, I'm going to be starting up a mass tort area of practice for a small firm. Since I was attacked and resigned my other gig I've got more time to spend on that.  I've done an internship with a mass tort firm, it's not so bad. Very feast or famine though.
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nm posted:25-30 is just about the normal 1L age these days in the US. And here I am about to turn 29 and feeling old. Thank god.
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Mookie posted:And here I am about to turn 29 and feeling old. I hear shitlaw will do that to you.
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Mookie posted:And here I am about to turn 29 and feeling old. Thank god. As if you didn't start law school when you were a friggin' child. Also, I don't feel like the 25-30 thing is terribly accurate. It seems the average age is 23, with about 80% of the class falling plus or minus one year from that. Of course averages always skew right, but I would be shocked if 25, let alone 30, was the average age of a 1L.
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FartsMcQueen posted:Seconding the request for interviews tips. Have interviews with some big firms in KC and STL next week and I am terrified. I feel like for screening interviews, they've already decided by the time they see your transcript. at least if there's no pre-screening. at the firm where I summered, I had a chat with the recruiting people and they were like yeah if your grades aren't up to snuff there's no chance you're going to roll in and win them over with your personality or super cool resume or something. Mr Gentleman fucked around with this message at 01:04 on Aug 12, 2010 |
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Mr Gentleman posted:I feel like for screening interviews, they've already decided by the time they see your transcript. at least if there's no pre-screening. at the firm where I summered, I had a chat with the recruiting people and they were like yeah if your grades aren't up to snuff there's no chance you're going to roll in and win them over with your personality or super cool resume or something. Anecdotally, the firm I'm at now screened twenty other candidates, many with better grades than mine, on the day they first interviewed me. They only invited one student from my school for a callback that year and I've since been told by both of the interviewers that it was my interview that won them over. The extent to which it matters probably varies by firm, but after grades "fit" is the next most important factor. Screening interviews enable the interviewers to guess at how you'll fit in at their firm.
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Mookie posted:And here I am about to turn 29 and feeling old. Thank god. How did I fail to realize I'm older than you? Your posts always make me think you're in your late thirties.
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Can anyone recommend a cheap (not a bench on the National Mall thx) hotel in DC? I don't know whether my interviews will be at separate places or at one location, but I would prefer near the attractions as much as possible. I want to stay a weekend too, so I'm sure rates are jacked up.
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MaximumBob posted:How did I fail to realize I'm older than you? Your posts always make me think you're in your late thirties. Because being an old cranky bastard has nothing to do with how old I am.
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billion dollar bitch posted:As if you didn't start law school when you were a friggin' child. At my school I think the median age was around 25 for 1Ls. Maybe 26.
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No calls yesterday after a week of ridiculousness and 2 second interviews. Think I'll find a bridge to jump off of now.
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soj89 posted:No calls yesterday after a week of ridiculousness and 2 second interviews. Think I'll find a bridge to jump off of now. Sorry  4 interviews, one tentative offer - me and him have an understanding that I'm not the best candidate for the job (not because of qualifications, but because his practice area is changing and it's not what I really want to do), but he might give me a call today to discuss things. A friend got a call from a firm that she's third on their list. An hour later, they call again: "the two people ahead of you accepted. Well, peace." edit: yeah that's gonna be my dilemma. It's a crim lawyer trying to start up a class action, which as far as career development goes wouldn't be a great move for me. On the other hand, it's a job for next year. Fuuuuuuuck. CmdrSmirnoff fucked around with this message at 15:12 on Aug 12, 2010 |
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SWATJester posted:At my school I think the median age was around 25 for 1Ls. Maybe 26. I'm inclined to think "median age for 1L's" is probably a lot lower (23ish) at T14 schools since those are the schools which tend to be filled with all the uber-achievers that go HS-->Undergrad-->Law School, with no break for work or experience inbetween. I would say the median age of 1L's at my law school was closer to 30 than to 20, owing most likely to the availability of an evening program and obviously more lax admission standards.
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Mr Gentleman posted:I feel like for screening interviews, they've already decided by the time they see your transcript. at least if there's no pre-screening. at the firm where I summered, I had a chat with the recruiting people and they were like yeah if your grades aren't up to snuff there's no chance you're going to roll in and win them over with your personality or super cool resume or something. So, we can decide "no" before the interview (or at least we could if we saw GPAs), but we'll never decide "yes."
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gvibes posted:For our OCI, we have a GPA floor, but above that, there's a lot of discretion left to the interviewer. I had an OCI interview where I got the rejection letter in the mail the next day. So they must have decided "no" ahead of time and prepared the letter to mail right after the interview. Hell, maybe they mailed it before the interview. I had actually thought it went pretty well too. I was pretty pissed off about that.
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quepasa18 posted:I had an OCI interview where I got the rejection letter in the mail the next day. So they must have decided "no" ahead of time and prepared the letter to mail right after the interview. Hell, maybe they mailed it before the interview. I had actually thought it went pretty well too. I was pretty pissed off about that. I think some firms are known to do this at Columbia if you put your GPA on your resume.
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quepasa18 posted:I had an OCI interview where I got the rejection letter in the mail the next day. So they must have decided "no" ahead of time and prepared the letter to mail right after the interview. Hell, maybe they mailed it before the interview. I had actually thought it went pretty well too. I was pretty pissed off about that. A year or two ago, I had a ~12 person interview schedule where only one person met our GPA floor.
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quepasa18 posted:I had an OCI interview where I got the rejection letter in the mail the next day. So they must have decided "no" ahead of time and prepared the letter to mail right after the interview. Hell, maybe they mailed it before the interview. I had actually thought it went pretty well too. I was pretty pissed off about that. I once got a rejection letter dated the day after my interview. I interviewed on a Friday. What are the chances that (1) the hiring partners deliberated that very day and the secretary worked a Saturday to send me my rejection; versus (2) I had been rejected before ever showing up?
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Defleshed posted:I'm inclined to think "median age for 1L's" is probably a lot lower (23ish) at T14 schools since those are the schools which tend to be filled with all the uber-achievers that go HS-->Undergrad-->Law School, with no break for work or experience inbetween. Probably right, but American is not a T14.
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Draile posted:I once got a rejection letter dated the day after my interview. I interviewed on a Friday. Was this an initial interview, or a callback?
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evilweasel posted:I think some firms are known to do this at Columbia if you put your GPA on your resume. That's only if your GPA is lower than what they want, right?
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Holland Oats posted:That's only if your GPA is lower than what they want, right? "He has a 4.0." "What? He put his GPA on there? Reject."
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CmdrSmirnoff posted:Sorry Take the job. You can always lateral.
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Goons rejecting perfectly OK jobs ITT
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Wow some people have early interviews...first OCI is on the 20th here, I haven't heard if I got it yet...although from what I hear 3L OCI's that lead to offers are like unicorns or leprechauns
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Ugh zero callbacks from yesterday. Is it time to take my swan dive off the Brooklyn Bridge?
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billion dollar bitch posted:Ugh zero callbacks from yesterday. Is it time to take my swan dive off the Brooklyn Bridge? yes, and then when they call you back tomorrow with the offer it will pass on to someone else
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Soooo... I got an offer at one of the firms I interviewed at last month! Everyone have a drink for me. Only took one and a half years.
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HooKars posted:Soooo... I got an offer at one of the firms I interviewed at last month! When is SA going to put "like" buttons under posts so I can just like your post instead of having to actually say something to congratulate you? Good work!
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HooKars posted:Soooo... I got an offer at one of the firms I interviewed at last month! Congratulations, but what about your new-found (and well deserved) hatred of the practice of (firm) law?
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Defleshed posted:Congratulations, but what about your new-found (and well deserved) hatred of the practice of (firm) law? I'm already dreading this job, but it's a job, and it pays. It doesn't mean I can't keep applying for admin and other similar jobs. Maybe if I'm employed they'll actually take my "I want a career change" seriously.
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HooKars posted:Soooo... I got an offer at one of the firms I interviewed at last month! Congratulations!
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HooKars posted:Soooo... I got an offer at one of the firms I interviewed at last month! Congrats and good luck!
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HooKars posted:Soooo... I got an offer at one of the firms I interviewed at last month! Congrats, I will devote one of my already planned drinks for you. I'll even make it one of the pre-crying ones
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