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justcola posted:Why is the best movie about bigfoot Harry and The Hendersons? Sure, there's stuff like boggy creek but there haven't really been any decent movies about bigfoot. He's just not that compelling so he doesn't attract quality writers or directors? Any themes or origin, or something about him that preys on some base fear or anxiety would have to be wholly made up. He's basically just a bear, so if you want a good thriller or horror movie you'd end up making something similar to The Edge.
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Bigfoot is so domesticated in popular mythology that it'd be like making a horror movie about Chewbacca.
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I was thinking of the idea of a big foot vs. swamp thing movie but then realised not many people give a poo poo about bigfoot as hes a bear gorilla, but there's still the chance for a Great bigfoot film to be made perhaps. They recycle certain ideas enough like vampires or werewolves as they play on psychological fears such as infection, madness, whichever. I like the idea of the character but there isn't much mythology I'm familiar with besides that Bigfoot has big feet.
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Aug 12, 2010 17:11
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With the right treatment, Bigfoot could be a pretty swell monster movie. Nobody would believe the young mans stroy about how Bigfoot stole/killed his fiance. The "Jane Goodall" character wants to befriend it, ala the scientist in the original Thing From Another World and gets killed. Carboard cut-out crazy mountain man hunter who's been tracking the beast lo these many years. Sheriff who grew up in the area but doesn't buy the idea. Some kind of Shaman or Witch/Psychic character. At the end you pull an M. Night and the Aliens show up or something ridiculous. 
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Aug 12, 2010 19:59
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Make it a trilogy with the Loch Ness monster and unicorns.
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Barometer posted:With the right treatment, Bigfoot could be a pretty swell monster movie. Nobody would believe the young mans stroy about how Bigfoot stole/killed his fiance. The "Jane Goodall" character wants to befriend it, ala the scientist in the original Thing From Another World and gets killed. Carboard cut-out crazy mountain man hunter who's been tracking the beast lo these many years. Sheriff who grew up in the area but doesn't buy the idea. Some kind of Shaman or Witch/Psychic character. Plenty of crazies think Bigfoot is alien related, it's a popular theory in conspiracy/UFO circles.
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Aug 12, 2010 23:36
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FishBulb posted:Plenty of crazies think Bigfoot is alien related, it's a popular theory in conspiracy/UFO circles. Yea, according to the Big Book of the Unexplained (which is as much of a factual source as anything on the subject) there is a theory that bigfoot kind of creatures are slave labour of the greys. And It just seemed to me that the stars of the biggest shows I can remember in my life time have gone on to pretty poor film careers. A little research could have answered that yes, there have been a number of people who have made the transition successfully.
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Aug 13, 2010 01:27
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codyclarke posted:Trying to think of some great movie performances by actors that weren't regarded as particularly good actors, or serious actors, prior to the role. Some that come to mind from recent history: Jamie Foxx in Redemption? I never saw it but it seems like this or Ray for him.
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Aug 13, 2010 01:45
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Jamie Foxx has actually been pretty good for a long while.
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Just checked IMDb and it looks as if his first good serious role may have been in Ali, which was just three years before my guess. I just remember seeing the Redemption and Ray trailers at about the same time and thinking "Where the hell did this come from?" All I really knew of him was from In Living Color.
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Ninja Gamer posted:Just checked IMDb and it looks as if his first good serious role may have been in Ali, which was just three years before my guess. Any Given Sunday, Collateral, Ray, etc. He's done a bunch of bad movies too, but come on.
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twistedmentat posted:Yea, according to the Big Book of the Unexplained (which is as much of a factual source as anything on the subject) there is a theory that bigfoot kind of creatures are slave labour of the greys. I am trying to connect the first paragraph in that post to the second, but I cannot, in any way shape or form.
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EVERYTHING I SAY ABOUT JAPAN OR LIVING IN JAPAN IS COMPLETELY WRONG, BUT YOU BETTER BELIEVE I'LL 
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kapalama posted:I am trying to connect the first paragraph in that post to the second, but I cannot, in any way shape or form. Second paragraph was going back to my badly wordered question. I was too lazy to quote something.
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codyclarke posted:Trying to think of some great movie performances by actors that weren't regarded as particularly good actors, or serious actors, prior to the role. Some that come to mind from recent history: Steve Martin in Shopgirl Bill Murray in Lost in Translation Jim Carrey in Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind Tom Hanks in Philadelphia Bruce Willis in Die Hard (if you had him pegged as a lightweight tv dramedy actor), Pulp Fiction (if you had him pegged as a silly action actor), or The Sixth Sense. qntm posted:What instances are there of a movie being made with the intention of retconning it in the sequel? A New Hope vs. Empire Strikes Back -- Vader killed Luke's dad vs. being Luke's dad regulargonzalez fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Aug 13, 2010 |
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regulargonzalez posted:Steve Martin in Shopgirl No offense but these are all really bad choices. I don't think anyone would really consider any of these picks bad actors, except for Carrey but he had already proven himself in the Truman Show WAY before Eternal Sunshine. I think you're mixing up "known for comedy" for "known to be bad actors".
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codyclarke posted:Trying to think of some great movie performances by actors that weren't regarded as particularly good actors, or serious actors, prior to the role.
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axleblaze posted:No offense but these are all really bad choices. I don't think anyone would really consider any of these picks bad actors, except for Carrey but he had already proven himself in the Truman Show WAY before Eternal Sunshine. I think you're mixing up "known for comedy" for "known to be bad actors". Tom Hanks was known for lightweight comedies before Philadelphia. Which of his previous movies made you think "drat, that there is one fine actor?" -- The Burbs, Turner and Hooch, or Joe vs the Volcano? Steve Martin and Bill Murray were a bit more highly regarded, but hadn't really done much to say they were a serious actor as opposed to a talented comedy actor. While in retrospect Murray seems an obvious and inevitable choice for Lost in Translation, that certainly wasn't the perspective at the time.
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regulargonzalez posted:Tom Hanks was known for lightweight comedies before Philadelphia. Which of his previous movies made you think "drat, that there is one fine actor?" -- The Burbs, Turner and Hooch, or Joe vs the Volcano? I'd say Groundhog Day was really Bill Murray's breakthrough in that regard. if not that, then certainly Rushmore. And for Tom Hanks, Big really showcased his acting chops. The scene where he's alone in the cheap hotel room crying in particular.
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codyclarke posted:I'd say Groundhog Day was really Bill Murray's breakthrough in that regard. if not that, then certainly Rushmore. And for Tom Hanks, Big really showcased his acting chops. The scene where he's alone in the cheap hotel room crying in particular. We'll just have to agree to disagree. I doubt many people watching Big, as great a movie as it is, thought that Hanks would go on to win multiple Academy Awards. Then again, maybe I'm wrong.
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Also one of Martin's earliest films was Pennies From Heaven, which while it was a flop, wasn't a comedy. Because it flopped I'll admit it didn't manage to alter his image much, so if that doesn't count then The Spanish Prisoner certainly should. Though I did misread the request originally, which was my bad. Really in general even this is kind of off topic because it's not about what's earlier, so I'll just bow out now...
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Courtney Love in The People vs. Larry Flynt Jennifer Hudson in Chicago Jennifer Tilly in Bullets Over Broadway Woody Harrelson in White Men Can't Jump Janet Jackson in Poetic Justice well she was nominated for a golden globe \/\/\/\/\/\/ Schweinhund fucked around with this message at 05:32 on Aug 13, 2010 |
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Schweinhund posted:Courtney Love in The People vs. Larry Flynt People where shocked that she could play a drugged up whore?
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Has anyone said Mariah Carey or (especially) Monique in Precious yet? Because I'm still in shock over that one.
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qntm posted:What instances are there of a movie being made with the intention of retconning it in the sequel?
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regulargonzalez posted:A New Hope vs. Empire Strikes Back -- Vader killed Luke's dad vs. being Luke's dad  I can't believe I didn't think of that one myself.
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codyclarke posted:Trying to think of some great movie performances by actors that weren't regarded as particularly good actors, or serious actors, prior to the role. Some that come to mind from recent history: While not part of a film, Anthony Anderson's portrayal of Antwon Mitchel in The Shield was absolutely mind blowing. As someone who had spent their entire career making movies about talking kangaroos (WHERE THE KANGAROOOS DONT TALK) and slapstick sidekicks, Anderson fully immersed himself as the ruthless, intimidating gang leader. His performance stands out significantly in a series filled with highly celebrated veteran dramatic actors. His portrayal even dwarfed that of the intended "celebrity cast member" of the season, Glenn Close, establishing Anderson as the unexpected gem in a pile of gold. regulargonzalez posted:A New Hope vs. Empire Strikes Back -- Vader killed Luke's dad vs. being Luke's dad Doesn't count. Lucas was still makin' it up as he went along 
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regulargonzalez posted:A New Hope vs. Empire Strikes Back -- Vader killed Luke's dad vs. being Luke's dad That was an intentional retcon? I always thought Darth Vader "killing" Anakin Skywalker was a metaphor for how the dark side took over Anakin.
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X-Ray Pecs posted:That was an intentional retcon? I always thought Darth Vader "killing" Anakin Skywalker was a metaphor for how the dark side took over Anakin.
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X-Ray Pecs posted:That was an intentional retcon? I always thought Darth Vader "killing" Anakin Skywalker was a metaphor for how the dark side took over Anakin. Naw. Lucas didn't originally plan it that way. It was a total Retcon, as was Leia being Luke's sister. Originally there were going to be a lot more films but Lucas was burnt out and wanted to end it. He had to tie up the "there is another" line form Empire though, so he made Leia Luke's sister. The other was originally supposed to refer to Luke's child, who would be the focus of the second trilogy and take down the Empire once and for all. God, I don't even like Star Wars that much. Why do I know this? 
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Brad Pitt came off as an emptyheaded hunk before he did Seven and Twelve Monkeys.
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Uma Thurman in Pulp Fiction. To me, her performances usually come off as dull and lifeless, except in Pulp Fiction, in which she did surprisingly well.
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axleblaze posted:Naw. Lucas didn't originally plan it that way. It was a total Retcon, as was Leia being Luke's sister. Originally there were going to be a lot more films but Lucas was burnt out and wanted to end it. He had to tie up the "there is another" line form Empire though, so he made Leia Luke's sister. The other was originally supposed to refer to Luke's child, who would be the focus of the second trilogy and take down the Empire once and for all. While I'm sure Lucas didn't plan the Vader=father or Luke and Leia siblings things out from the first film (since he thought it would likely be the only film and it was entirely self-contained), it doesn't make sense for that line to refer to Luke's child when he didn't have a child yet and might get killed rescuing his friends. Sounds more likely Lucas just stuck that in there since by then he had to know there would be a third film and he could just make it into anything he wanted at that point.
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axleblaze posted:Naw. Lucas didn't originally plan it that way. It was a total Retcon, as was Leia being Luke's sister. Originally there were going to be a lot more films but Lucas was burnt out and wanted to end it. He had to tie up the "there is another" line form Empire though, so he made Leia Luke's sister. The other was originally supposed to refer to Luke's child, who would be the focus of the second trilogy and take down the Empire once and for all. It wasn't meant to be Luke's kid but a sister who hadn't been introduced yet.
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haveblue posted:Brad Pitt came off as an emptyheaded hunk before he did Seven and Twelve Monkeys. Even in River Runs Through It, people were saying he might have a Robert Redford - type potential. Seven and Twelve Monkeys was more over how he got over that "guys hate him because their girlfriends like him" hump.
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I remember Casey Affleck being sort of a punchline before The Assassination Of Jesse James came out, though I'm not sure if he was considered a lovely actor, or just unknown.
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Fag Boy Jim posted:I remember Casey Affleck being sort of a punchline before The Assassination Of Jesse James came out, though I'm not sure if he was considered a lovely actor, or just unknown. Maybe not mainstream known, but I don't know anyone who considered him a lovely actor. Hell, even in To Die For he got some recognition. What roles of his would he be considered a lovely actor, or even a punchline, from? Lonesome Jim?
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Voodoofly posted:Maybe not mainstream known, but I don't know anyone who considered him a lovely actor. Hell, even in To Die For he got some recognition. I remember hearing people laughing about him just being Ben Affleck's brother in the Ocean's movies.
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Schweinhund posted:Jennifer Hudson in Chicago She's not in that movie. Do you mean Queen Latifah?
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