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Congrats man I jacked my back up so I will be taking flexeril and Percocet in your honor
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Wow people already interviewing. Bidding here just opened today, got my first practice run in a couple hours. On that note about bidding: I'm a bit miffed as to how to proceed. Most people here will bid on San Fran and LA firms. I want Seattle, San Diego and NY firms the most. Do I bid the Seattle/SD/NY places high to ensure I get what I really want, or bid the SF/LA places high so I don't lose in the lottery? E: JOB GET Hookars, good poo poo congrats.
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Congrats! Is it back in St. Louis or over where you are?
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Aug 13, 2010 00:35
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HooKars posted:Soooo... I got an offer at one of the firms I interviewed at last month! Between HooKars becoming employed and someone else in the thread being on the cusp of not dying alone, I'm concerned that the thread's motto may be in danger of becoming obsolete.
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HooKars posted:Soooo... I got an offer at one of the firms I interviewed at last month! Great news! Which one was it -- you interviewed in St. Louis and Philly, right?
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quepasa18 posted:Great news! Which one was it -- you interviewed in St. Louis and Philly, right? Philly, which means another bar exam. And the latest start date is August 31st so I have to move quickly.
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Holland Oats posted:That's only if your GPA is lower than what they want, right? Right, they can't do it otherwise because Columbia doesn't let them ask for a transcript ahead of time.
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Aug 13, 2010 00:56
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HooKars posted:Philly, which means another bar exam. And the latest start date is August 31st so I have to move quickly.
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Aug 13, 2010 01:38
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10-8 posted:
Next thing you know I'll find a job
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Haven't poked my head in here for a while. Summer clerkships are coming to an end (or have already ended) around here, is anyone getting any job offers? I'm waiting for an interview with last summer's firm, but got offered from the (much smaller) firm I worked with this summer. Is it normal to be offered a position and given the rundown of benefits, but be told the salary info will have to be decided by the partners?
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sigmachiev posted:On that note about bidding: I'm a bit miffed as to how to proceed. Most people here will bid on San Fran and LA firms. I want Seattle, San Diego and NY firms the most. Do I bid the Seattle/SD/NY places high to ensure I get what I really want, or bid the SF/LA places high so I don't lose in the lottery? stay out of sf/la so i have a better shot  Seconding congrats to HooKars, but I would like to defer the drink to immediately after OCIs
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Congrats on the Philly job. Is it just the practice area isn't what you want to do? Seconding "like" option for posts.
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Aug 13, 2010 03:08
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HooKars posted:Philly, which means another bar exam. And the latest start date is August 31st so I have to move quickly. Congrats on that!
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Aug 13, 2010 03:20
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HooKars posted:Soooo... I got an offer at one of the firms I interviewed at last month! Congratulations!
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Aug 13, 2010 03:28
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Ainsley McTree posted:Next thing you know I'll find a job Let's not get crazy here man... HooKars posted:I'm already dreading this job, but it's a job, and it pays. It doesn't mean I can't keep applying for admin and other similar jobs. Maybe if I'm employed they'll actually take my "I want a career change" seriously. Well in any case, I am stoked for you and I hope things work out.
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HooKars posted:Philly, which means another bar exam. And the latest start date is August 31st so I have to move quickly. Godspeed, sir!
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Daico posted:Godspeed, sir! ma'am.
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Aug 13, 2010 04:34
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10-8 posted:Congrats! Well, we are heading into a double dip recession now, so there's that.
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From people's experiences, if you make a careless error in your cover letter for clerkship will that ever make a decisive difference? I ask because I'm batch sending off shitloads of them for summer clerkships and I've already noticed a couple of errors that crept into my cover letters. E.g. I put "Allens" instead of "Allen" in Allen & Overy (there is a firm here that IS Allens, and google misled me by filling in "Allens and Overy", yes, I know I'm dumb for not checking it more thoroughly).
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Aug 13, 2010 04:46
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Torpor posted:Well, we are heading into a double dip recession now, so there's that. Doesn't really look like it. Economic forecast is rough and I'd be surprised if we saw anything too favorable in job growth but we have been slowly but steadily getting better for a while now (although this week was a bit nasty).
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Aug 13, 2010 04:53
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Ainsley McTree posted:Next thing you know I'll find a job Next major IRS TCO hiring is early next year.
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Aug 13, 2010 04:58
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HooKars posted:Soooo... I got an offer at one of the firms I interviewed at last month! Wow, one and a half years is pretty tough, but grats on the job! Might I ask what area of law it's in?
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Aug 13, 2010 05:19
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Readman posted:Might I ask what area of law it's in? Business and Finance. Though its a ridiculously obscure subsection of that which kind of sucks. I'm also non-partnership track with the same billable hours as partnership track, but at least they're calling me an associate vs. staff attorney so it won't hurt the resume.
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Aug 13, 2010 05:25
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Well whatever; Congratulations! I'm very happy that you're employed now.
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Former Everything posted:Haven't poked my head in here for a while. I got an offer at the end of my clerkship, but they didn't really give me any details except that it'd be a full time first year associate position "no later than January 2012." No breakdown of benefits, salary, hours or even confirming if I'd get my choice of practice group (bankruptcy).
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Please let me know if any of you have ever seen an appellate brief this awful. http://www.scribd.com/doc/35752919/BARNETT-v-OBAMA-9th-CIRCUIT-APPEAL-Appellants-Opening-Brief-No-Attachments-Transport-Room Yes, Orly wrote this in a legal brief that she submitted to the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals: quote:Shortly after Judge Carter completely changed his tune, Taitz came to the court house, brought some pleadings and heard the Marine march playing. Judge Carter, a former Marine was celebrating the Marine Corps day. There was a huge teddy bear sitting in the midst of the hallway, it had a shirt with the Marine insignia, the band was playing, clerk Sidharth Velamoor was there, all the other clerks and employees were there. Everyone was waiting for Judge Carter and the cake. Taitz started choking and trying to gather some strength to hold back tears. The only ones, who were missing, were Marines. The same Marines, whom Carter named cowards for standing up for the Constitution of this country, Marines, who sacrificed their carriers, earnings, who risked retaliation were called cowards.
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qwertyman posted:Please let me know if any of you have ever seen an appellate brief this awful. Yes, it was a pro se brief from a schizophrenic who was very unhappy that he was found incompetent to stand trial. May I suggest to the 9th Circuit: Order Denying Motion For Incomprehensibility Page 2,The Billy Madison footnote
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Neurosis posted:From people's experiences, if you make a careless error in your cover letter for clerkship will that ever make a decisive difference? I ask because I'm batch sending off shitloads of them for summer clerkships and I've already noticed a couple of errors that crept into my cover letters. E.g. I put "Allens" instead of "Allen" in Allen & Overy (there is a firm here that IS Allens, and google misled me by filling in "Allens and Overy", yes, I know I'm dumb for not checking it more thoroughly). I can't believe anyone actually asks this question, and would even consider sending out resumes with spelling errors. Yes, it will make a difference. There are tons of people applying for jobs, which means employers are looking for reasons to narrow down the applicants. Spelling errors look like you don't care and don't pay attention to detail. My uncle used to review resumes where he worked, and he once told me that a spelling error in a cover letter or resume meant it automatically went in the trash.
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joat mon posted:Yes, it was a pro se brief from a schizophrenic who was very unhappy that he was found incompetent to stand trial. Is it really pro se if she's technically a lawyer? I mean she did pass the oh so hard california bar.
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JudicialRestraints posted:Is it really pro se if she's technically a lawyer? I mean she did pass the oh so hard california bar. Why not? She's still representing herself.
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HooKars posted:Business and Finance. Though its a ridiculously obscure subsection of that which kind of sucks. I'm also non-partnership track with the same billable hours as partnership track, but at least they're calling me an associate vs. staff attorney so it won't hurt the resume. So... you're an associate with no chance of making partner? And they told you that upfront rather than being like "SURPRISE!" down the road? Seems like they were being especially above-board on that one.
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Neurosis posted:From people's experiences, if you make a careless error in your cover letter for clerkship will that ever make a decisive difference? I ask because I'm batch sending off shitloads of them for summer clerkships and I've already noticed a couple of errors that crept into my cover letters. E.g. I put "Allens" instead of "Allen" in Allen & Overy (there is a firm here that IS Allens, and google misled me by filling in "Allens and Overy", yes, I know I'm dumb for not checking it more thoroughly). I always notice typos and I do judge people for them. All else being equal, I am more likely to pay attention to the typo-free person. I once had an attorney tell me that there was a typo in my cover letter, so I busted out a copy and asked them where it was. We had a twenty minute cordial discussion about various grammar / punctuation rules. (There wasn't a typo.  )
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Mookie posted:So... you're an associate with no chance of making partner? Don't most firms do this as an excuse to pay you lower wages?
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Why would firms even pre-determine whether a lawyer might be a partner one day, before the lawyer has actually done anything to show his worth (or lack of it)?
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JudicialRestraints posted:Is it really pro se if she's technically a lawyer? I mean she did pass the oh so hard california bar. Lykourgos posted:Why would firms even pre-determine whether a lawyer might be a partner one day, before the lawyer has actually done anything to show his worth (or lack of it)?
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JudicialRestraints posted:Don't most firms do this as an excuse to pay you lower wages? Yep. Same hours, lower pay, and they bill me out at normal associate rates.
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HooKars posted:Yep. Same hours, lower pay, and they bill me out at normal associate rates. Well, congratulations are still in order!
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entris posted:I always notice typos and I do judge people for them. All else being equal, I am more likely to pay attention to the typo-free person.
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quepasa18 posted:I can't believe anyone actually asks this question, and would even consider sending out resumes with spelling errors. Yes, it will make a difference. There are tons of people applying for jobs, which means employers are looking for reasons to narrow down the applicants. Spelling errors look like you don't care and don't pay attention to detail. I've gotten resumes with strikethroughs and highlights obviously made by people reviewing the resume. Some people are just incompetent.
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quepasa18 posted:I can't believe anyone actually asks this question, and would even consider sending out resumes with spelling errors. Yes, it will make a difference. There are tons of people applying for jobs, which means employers are looking for reasons to narrow down the applicants. Spelling errors look like you don't care and don't pay attention to detail. When you are sending out 25+ applications, in a two week period, with assignments due at the same time, and you have to enter separate grades and type separate cover letters, errors sometimes creep in. Hth as to how people would ever consider sending them out. I was more interested as to whether extremely simple errors would result in an immediate rejection when your application is otherwise of a high quality, which seems to be the case. Yeah, I thought it would matter; though my errors tend to be more along the lines of a grade entered incorrectly in a non-law subject (out of the 42 I have to enter at every firm) rather than grammatical or spelling errors. And no, nothing is of the level of incompetence as sending out an application with strikeouts, retarded grammar, or addressing the wrong firm. I was just curious as to whether people thought it wouldn't kill an otherwise decent application, or whether it would knock a good app down to the 'disregard' pile, the latter being true. Oh well, three errors out of twenty-five applications. There's always next winter. 
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