What, really? The telepathic commands I've been sending LFL are finally taking hold? First Traviss is gone, now Allston is going back to Wraith Squadron ... can we boot Troy Denning yet?
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Nucleic Acids posted:Not to launch a political derail, but I'm curious to find out what this kind of theforce.net dweller would consider "socialist opression." There was one Fandalorian I remember from way back in the day (who was actually Canadian of all things) who was a full-on fascist apologist. He would actually go on about how Franco and Mussolini were great leaders and all the stuff against them are just trumped-up lies (not sure if he ever made the jump to defending Hitler although at one point I do think he cast doubts on the Holocaust). He also believed that the Catholic Church was literally a flawless and perfect organization that has done no wrong and is single-handedly responsible for creating Western civilization in the middle ages. There are a lot of other users there with taglines that are Bible verses and stuff like "God bless America and Israel"
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# ? Aug 16, 2010 05:12 |
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There's no official announcement yet, just part of the Del Rey panel highlights on RebelScum. quote:Summer 2010 - All new Wraith Squadron paperback by Aaron Allston I'm just going to assume the date is supposed to be Summer 2011 or 2012. Here's the link: http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/CV_Whats_Next_From_Del_Rey_133252.asp There's also this: quote:July 17, 2011 - Timothy Zahn's untitled follow-up to Allegiance
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# ? Aug 16, 2010 05:14 |
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Big Mean Jerk posted:There's no official announcement yet, just part of the Del Rey panel highlights on RebelScum. I read GFFA as Galactic Federation of Free Alliances and got excited that maybe a Thrawn clone comes into the picture. But then the real acronym came to me. Oh well still going to be good.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I read GFFA as Galactic Federation of Free Alliances and got excited that maybe a Thrawn clone comes into the picture. But then the real acronym came to me. Oh well still going to be good. I was all set to hope that your initial thought was correct, but Wookiepedia crushes my dreams once again. Wookiepedia posted:Hand of Judgment is an upcoming novel by Timothy Zahn set for release on July 19, 2011.[1] It will be set shortly after the Allegiance novel and will feature Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, Princess Leia, Chewbacca, Mara Jade, Thrawn and the Hand of Judgment.[2] Should still be awesome.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:How can you post that and skip over the part that said Aaron Allston is writing a new Wraith Squadron novel? quote:Hand of Judgment is an upcoming novel by Timothy Zahn set for release on July 19, 2011.[1] It will be set shortly after the Allegiance novel and will feature Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, Princess Leia, Chewbacca, Mara Jade, Thrawn and the Hand of Judgment.[2] I don't care if writing anything about the Big 3 between EP IV and V is dicey ground, Stover and Zahn are the only two authors that can write them worth a drat. Oh god EU I love you so much baby I'm sorry for all that I said
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# ? Aug 16, 2010 05:26 |
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Is there any way we can reset the post RoTJ EU to the end of the New Jedi Order and start again from there? Keep the Legacy comics though, but remove all mentions of Jacen as a Sith. Please Lucasfilm/Book/Arts?
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# ? Aug 16, 2010 05:29 |
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Is there any way we can reset the post RoTJ EU to the end of the New Jedi Order and start again from there? Keep the Legacy comics though, but remove all mentions of Jacen as a Sith. While I'm definitely not entirely happy with everything the EU has given us. I accept all of it, even the bad. And enjoy it to a point. I don't want a Galaxy where everything is perfect. Did it piss me off when Jacen did a total 180 and became a massive dick? Of course. But I enjoyed being drawn into the story moreso because of my love for a character whom I never thought could have done that. I like knowing that characters have flaws, and react to changes in their universe. Even negative ones.
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# ? Aug 16, 2010 05:35 |
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Yes and Yes Oh, well a canon Wookiee Jedi is still pretty cool I guess.
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# ? Aug 16, 2010 05:43 |
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Esroc posted:While I'm definitely not entirely happy with everything the EU has given us. I accept all of it, even the bad. And enjoy it to a point. I don't want a Galaxy where everything is perfect. Did it piss me off when Jacen did a total 180 and became a massive dick? Of course. But I enjoyed being drawn into the story moreso because of my love for a character whom I never thought could have done that. I like knowing that characters have flaws, and react to changes in their universe. Even negative ones. I'm totally with you in theory. It's the manner in which many of the random or unconventional things happen that cause me (and I assume many people) to just throw up their hands. LotF spoilers I don't mind that Jacen became a Sith but I hated that he didn't do it because of trauma or resignation or an insight during his journeys but, rather, almost accidentally because he was basically tricked about the ramifications and realities and was taught that he would be able to deal with the dark side in a clinical and objective way. He was never that stupid as a teenager or adult until the plot demanded he be. So I agree that the overall notions of some of the things that happen that fans cry out about are actually pretty cool but it's often the way that they happen that cause problems.
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# ? Aug 16, 2010 05:45 |
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Hell they can keep the plot of LoTF, just rewrite it with different authors. Allston can stay but gently caress the rest.
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# ? Aug 16, 2010 05:47 |
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Azzmo posted:I'm totally with you in theory. I'll give you that one. I also got the idea that his descent was a bit too convenient for the sake of the plot, rather than a believable and justifiable reason. Still quite enjoyed the Legacy novels though. I'm also absolutely LOVING the new Fate novels. I may be alone in that, but goddamn it's captured my attention.
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Azzmo posted:I'm totally with you in theory.
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# ? Aug 16, 2010 05:50 |
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Hazo posted:Imagine this: The butchering of Jacen's character is why even Kevin J. Anderson's Young Jedi Knights series is objectively better than LOTF.
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# ? Aug 16, 2010 05:56 |
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Big Mean Jerk posted:How can you post that and skip over the part that said Aaron Allston is writing a new Wraith Squadron novel? This is quite possibly the best news I've heard in months. Hazo posted:Imagine this: The butchering of Jacen's character is why even Kevin J. Anderson's Young Jedi Knights series is only barely worse than the parts of LOTF that Traviss wrote. Fixed that one for you. Any series where Wedge gets to tell a Sith that he has no sense of humor is okay by me. Even if it's otherwise terrible.
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Hazo posted:Imagine this: The butchering of Jacen's character is why even Kevin J. Anderson's Young Jedi Knights series is objectively better than LOTF. At least the YJK series was honest about what it was. I don't know if I would agree that the quality of writing is on par with LotF but the stories are appropriate and don't just oooooze with disdain for the readership. The way Jacen and the Mon Cal took over the government - a loophole in some forgotten document - is disdainful to the audience. Mara Jade not telling Luke that she was about to go try to hunt down Jacen and the subsequent attempts by her dead body to show that Jacen is a Sith were disdainful to the audience. Jacen's fall the dark side was so poorly thought out that it was disdainful to the audience. The Mandalorian side story made no sense and was disdainful to the audience and the series itself. Denning's attempts to counter Traviss' hack job was disdainful to the audience. Most of that stuff isn't even believable in the Star Wars universe and the rest is way too convenient to accept as part of the story. It's all noticeable when you view through the eyes of a cynic. I hate to say it, Esroc, because you seem like a good guy but: run. Run from these forums! You will be pointed to so many plot holes and problems in your beloved Star Wars EU that shame will replace adoration and your heart will wither into the little charred husk that the rest of us have. edit: NEW WRAITH SQUADRON BOOK! NOT ALL IS BLEAK!
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# ? Aug 16, 2010 06:17 |
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Azzmo posted:At least the YJK series was honest about what it was. I don't know if I would agree that the quality of writing is on par with LotF but the stories are appropriate and don't just oooooze with disdain for the readership. [spoilers] Azzmo posted:I hate to say it, Esroc, because you seem like a good guy but: run. Run from these forums! You will be pointed to so many plot holes and problems in your beloved Star Wars EU that shame will replace adoration and your heart will wither into the little charred husk that the rest of us have. I was once as you were, but I saw the truth. Join us. Your hate will make you strong.
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# ? Aug 16, 2010 06:37 |
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Whoa, whoa, whoa. New Wraith Squadron and a Zahn follow-up to Allegiance? Lucasbooks, I forgive you for everything. Except Denning.
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Azzmo posted:I hate to say it, Esroc, because you seem like a good guy but: run. Run from these forums! You will be pointed to so many plot holes and problems in your beloved Star Wars EU that shame will replace adoration and your heart will wither into the little charred husk that the rest of us have. I worry about you. Jervas Dudley posted:The EU (chronologically): Adding this to the OP.
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# ? Aug 16, 2010 09:29 |
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New Wraith Squadron novel what in gently caress, jesus gently caress lord I hope it takes place during the vong invasion and is awesome holy poo poo!
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# ? Aug 16, 2010 09:41 |
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hunkofsoup posted:said, yesterday I received a package in the mail containing this: Stackpole should win some sort of literary award. He wrote a series of books based on two of the greatest computer games of all time, which were in turn based on three of the greatest movies of all time, and the result was a pile of pulpy fun. The chances of that happening ever again in history are minute. Big Mean Jerk posted:How can you post that and skip over the part that said Aaron Allston is writing a new Wraith Squadron novel? T-1000 fucked around with this message at 11:47 on Aug 16, 2010 |
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I think I know the answer to this question, but is there ANY way that we'll see episodes 7-9? Or at least a followup set a few years later? I know Lucas has said no, but he does love money a whole lot.
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hunkofsoup posted:That being said, yesterday I received a package in the mail containing this: You realise you're two books short of the full series right? Also on the announcements: I'm so glad the multi-book series are out the door after the abortion that was LOTF. Fate of the Jedi basically seems to be a series designed to unfuck the one that came before it and that's a pretty big indication they cocked up Hopefully this will lead to better authors writing with more regularity (Zahn, Stover, even Luceno) with less horrific storylines and continuity gently caress ups (Traviss, Denning). Also hopefully it'll leave us with more novels that stand on their own as great books, instead of just feeling like the latest episode in a soap. Also the Wraith Squadron return has me all
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Residency Evil posted:I think I know the answer to this question, but is there ANY way that we'll see episodes 7-9? Or at least a followup set a few years later? I know Lucas has said no, but he does love money a whole lot. He is altering the franchise, pray he doesn't alter it any further.
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T-1000 posted:You've got a few good weekends ahead of you. The last two in the series aren't quite as good but are still worth picking up if you can. Starfighters of Adumar was the best book in that series hands down.
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Jervas Dudley posted:Wait, she has a sword on her hip...and no hands...how does she use that sword? How does she even pull it out?! Good thing you guys just said Allston is writing a new Wraith Squadron book, and that there's a new book with Thrawn coming too, or I might be giving up on Star Wars.
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To be fair on EU.jpg can we have some awesome version? It'd be an excuse to show Wedge and Lando kicking rear end?
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# ? Aug 16, 2010 14:35 |
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SeanBeansShako posted:To be fair on EU.jpg can we have some awesome version? It'd be an excuse to show Wedge and Lando kicking rear end? How about Wedge.jpg
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# ? Aug 16, 2010 14:49 |
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Crowetron posted:How about Wedge.jpg I would have said the one where he's blasting away with guns in each hands. But that's acceptable too.
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DougieC posted:You realise you're two books short of the full series right? They're arriving later this week from Amazon, along with I, Jedi and Vector Prime. (My library has the Thrawn duology, which I'll read before tackling NJO.)
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hunkofsoup posted:They're arriving later this week from Amazon, along with I, Jedi and Vector Prime. (My library has the Thrawn duology, which I'll read before tackling NJO.) You've taken your first step into a larger world.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Hell they can keep the plot of LoTF, just rewrite it with different authors. Allston can stay but gently caress the rest. Having not read any EU books since the late 90s, and since I was laid off this time last year, I decided to visit the library and catch up. Not seeing the need to read the Black Fleet Crisis (where I left off) I figured I would just catch up using wikipedia and start fresh with NJO. As I was reading that series I followed these threads and learned of Traviss. Soon as I worked myself through the series and into LoTF, I began to breathe a heavy sigh when I would see her name on the next installment. I finally had to stop 75 pages into Sacrifice. The Boba Fett story line was pointless and brought the already thin plot line to a hault. She's really ruined that character for me for quite a while.
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So there's a new thread and still no mentioning of p-spliffy? Now there is. <--- That new Wraith Squadron book and the Thrawn one will be the first books I will buy since two years ago when I stopped reading Star Wars novels because I didn't want to touch anything LOTF- or NJO-related. X-Wing series were far enough in the future for me, everything after that was none of my business.
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sniper4625 posted:Starfighters of Adumar was the best book in that series hands down. hunkofsoup posted:They're arriving later this week from Amazon, along with I, Jedi and Vector Prime. (My library has the Thrawn duology, which I'll read before tackling NJO.) Then you'll just read it and Chewbacca will die and a cold breeze will carry to you the sound of George Lucas' laughter from atop his throne of skulls and money.
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T-1000 posted:The stakes were low and there was very little tension, even compared to the other books. Adumar had the capability to (and eventually did) become one of the galaxy's foremost producers of missle ammunition.
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Slantedfloors posted:Adumar had the capability to (and eventually did) become one of the galaxy's foremost producers of missle ammunition.
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# ? Aug 16, 2010 15:49 |
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In the last thread, someone linked to a TFN thread with a ranking of all the EU novels. I've been unable to find it since, does anyone have a link handy? I like rankings.
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Ok, really stupid question here, but why, exactly, does everybody hate The Galactic Empire? I mean, yea, it's ruled by the Sith lord and his apprentice, but nobody in the movies ever really say what the Empire does that really is so bad, other than taking extreme measures to pacify a violent rebellious uprising, but what ELSE do they do that everybody hates? What made the Rebellion start other than the fact that it was an empire rather than a republic?
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Fnoigy posted:Ok, really stupid question here, but why, exactly, does everybody hate The Galactic Empire? I mean, yea, it's ruled by the Sith lord and his apprentice, but nobody in the movies ever really say what the Empire does that really is so bad, other than taking extreme measures to pacify a violent rebellious uprising, but what ELSE do they do that everybody hates? What made the Rebellion start other than the fact that it was an empire rather than a republic? This was covered in the very first post. Also, Starkiller.
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