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Iggles posted:Laugh it up, Denton Do these stories have any relation to Deus Ex at all? Like theme-wise or something?
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:Do these stories have any relation to Deus Ex at all? Like theme-wise or something?
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Aug 15, 2010 23:27
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Yes, basically everything written in the game has some relevance -- either to the main story, your immediate actions, or the philosophical concepts underpinning the whole thing. It's a very well-written game. If you find something that doesn't seem related to anything, it might be related to something that was cut (the newspaper articles about the lunar mass driver are a big one).
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Aug 16, 2010 01:22
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orange lime posted:If you find something that doesn't seem related to anything, it might be related to something that was cut (the newspaper articles about the lunar mass driver are a big one). Do you mind explaining that one a little bit? I'm curious but don't feel like sifting through the DX bible.
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Aug 16, 2010 01:53
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Isn't that the China/EU lunar mining project that is a great success up until the first load crash lands on Earth and kill hundreds?
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Aug 16, 2010 02:28
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Grey Fox V2 posted:Isn't that the China/EU lunar mining project that is a great success up until the first load crash lands on Earth and kill hundreds? Yeah. IIRC, the AI controlling it went rogue and you were supposed to go to the moon and shut her down. That's what Area 51 was supposed to be, originally. I'd really like a mod for Deus Ex that attempts to add back everything that was cut.
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Aug 16, 2010 02:42
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Consider this my resignation.
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Aug 16, 2010 03:10
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Ah yes the oft talked about lunar mission that was cut but sounded totally awesome.
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Aug 16, 2010 03:10
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:Do these stories have any relation to Deus Ex at all? Like theme-wise or something? quote:"First of all, what is it really all about? What is it you object to? You want to abolish Government?" Yeah, pretty much.
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Aug 16, 2010 03:33
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Grand Fromage posted:Fanks fer stickin' it in! ahaha holy poo poo 
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Aug 16, 2010 06:55
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Yeah, pretty much. You cut out one of the best lines in that exchange 
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Aug 16, 2010 07:22
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A lot of the cut content sounds like it would have been awesome. drat, the developers were ambitious.
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Aug 16, 2010 20:04
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It's amazing how much content is still in the game anyway, I couldn't believe it when I found out I wasn't even halfway done with the game after breaking out of the MJ12 base.
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Aug 16, 2010 20:07
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Norsu posted:Here's a small scene that is easy to miss if don't explore every nook and cranny: How do you open up this area? I've always had to noclip through the door.
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Aug 16, 2010 21:45
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Capn Beeb posted:How do you open up this area? I've always had to noclip through the door. LAM works (and doesn't piss off the cops as long if you blow it up with a silenced weapon)
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Aug 17, 2010 00:00
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mp5 posted:You cut out one of the best lines in that exchange It was just a joke though, rather than anything thematically relevant.
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Aug 17, 2010 00:52
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Capn Beeb posted:How do you open up this area? I've always had to noclip through the door. You can smash the glass with any weapon
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I'm doing an absolutely no kills playthrough on medium. Every single person hostile to me I've just knocked out including the MJ12 lab in the sewers. I'm at the Lebedev/Navarre point and I'm stuck. Even if Navarre does just blow up when you "knock her out" I still refuse to use lethal force against her. I've tried gas grenades (I guess she's immune), pepper spray (see point 1), and tranq shots (if these work it takes insanely long and I can't kite her away since she runs back and kills Lebedev before finishing me off), and beating her to death with the baton seems impossible since she kills me off incredibly quick. Any advice? Any way to game this part? Or should I just let Lebedev die?
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Aug 29, 2010 05:24
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Can't you knock out Lebedev and that'll still count?
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Aug 29, 2010 05:36
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Vita posted:Can't you knock out Lebedev and that'll still count? Interesting. I hadn't even considered that. But, I'd still rather knock the bitch out. :/ Of course, if that really is my only way out of it then I guess it'll have to suffice.
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Aug 29, 2010 06:02
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An idea I had recently is to do a tech affinity playthrough, basically the equivalent of a pacifist run, but for technology. No hacking, no lockpicking, no multitools, no destroying bots/cameras/etc. At the same time, kill every living thing possible. Merge with Helios at the end to assist in dominating the human race. I think I'll be doing this my next run.
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Aug 29, 2010 06:21
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This thread inspired me to play for the first time, despite the fact I got it for free (bundled with a sound card) shortly after it came out. I tried to play it at the time but lost interest, mostly because my attention span was pretty short at the time and it was so unlike anything I'd played before. I recently beat it and was surprised at how much I enjoyed it in spite of its age. The only drawback was the horrendous "foreign" voice acting as soon as you leave the States. I guess they had to do something, and it would've been weird to have the NPCs speaking their native language and JC speaking English, but the foreign NPCs like Americans mocking foreign accents. I was kind of hoping at least one French dude would say "Huhn huhn!" I also lost Jock because I was too stupid to figure out how to turn in the shady mechanic. What a shame.
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Aug 29, 2010 06:38
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I just started playing again, and a while ago I guess I installed Shifter, didn't play it, and forgot I had ever done it. That lead to what was probably the most confused Liberty Island playthrough ever. "What? Since when have there been different kinds of soda? Where did these rockets come from? WHAT HAPPENED TO MY PRECIOUS LASER SIGHT! "Oh, and is there anyway to tune down the GUI upscaling? I've been looking and having no luck.
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XausF1 posted:Interesting. I hadn't even considered that. But, I'd still rather knock the bitch out. :/ I think certain enemies are immune to nonlethal damage (practically, anyways). Navarre is one of them. Gunther and Simons are also impossible to knock out, but you can just run away from them.
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XausF1 posted:Interesting. I hadn't even considered that. But, I'd still rather knock the bitch out. :/ You can get some crates from the hold airfield/hold of the plane and block her way to Lebedev if you don't want anyone to die in there
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I seem to be stuck in the missile silo, I am at the part where I have to go into the missile bay proper, but there are so many Agents with plasma rifles. And I am really low on bio power.
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Jarofmoldymayo posted:I seem to be stuck in the missile silo, I am at the part where I have to go into the missile bay proper, but there are so many Agents with plasma rifles. And I am really low on bio power. WP rockets solve all problems, always.
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Jarofmoldymayo posted:I seem to be stuck in the missile silo, I am at the part where I have to go into the missile bay proper, but there are so many Agents with plasma rifles. And I am really low on bio power. A neat thing I discovered last playthrough - just past the silo door, at the start of the corridor leading to the missile bay, there's a grate in the floor that leads to a water pool below the missile. From there you can reach the lift. Take it up as high as it goes (I think), and you can then deal with Howard Strong, having avoided most or all of the agents.
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So I was glancing around the thread and early on someone mentioned being able to let Lebedev escape on the plane and then he helps you later? I knew you could kill Navarre but that always ended up with him being arrested anyway.
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Tarezax posted:Gunther and Simons are also impossible to knock out, but you can just run away from them.  Click here for the full 1024x768 image. Its not exactly easy but, eh, its possible.
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Aug 30, 2010 00:04
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I believe Gunther kills Lebedev if you or Anna don't.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=To2KassxUeE
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etalian posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=To2KassxUeE You would think I'd be tired of things like this by now, but nope. I am a child.
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Aug 30, 2010 04:25
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I too am a man child and find that quite funny.
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I am a wealthy, classy dude who drinks expensive scotch while sitting in my Bauhaus home and I found it quite funny.
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Wow, I just ran into the most bizarre glitch. My first trip back to New York right after Hong Kong. Martial law, UNATCO and Riot Cops on the street with a mech. I sneak into Underworld, talk with Filben, the marine and then I head out. I lean around the corner, fire off a tranq dart at a riot cop, and wait for him to pass out. Then... chaos. The Riot Cop runs up to me and starts shooting and then UNATCO troops join in only they're shooting at the riot cops! I don't mean because of friendly fire, I mean every single one of them starts shooting at any riot cops they see including the mech which starts firing back. Wow.
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You should have seen the MJ12 vs UNATCO vs riot cop poo poo storm I posted a while back. You know what I mean.
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Pope Guilty posted:I believe Gunther kills Lebedev if you or Anna don't. How do you get Gunther to even show up?
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Lowen SoDium posted:How do you get Gunther to even show up? He always shows up. You run into him on the way back to the helicopter. He wanders around and won't actually kill Lebedev in-engine, but NPCs refer to it later on.
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Male Man posted:He always shows up. You run into him on the way back to the helicopter. He wanders around and won't actually kill Lebedev in-engine, but NPCs refer to it later on. So what if you killed Gunther already or kill him right there, and also kill Navarre?
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