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Foyes36: Oct 23, 2005; Food fight!

RagnarokAngel posted:

Problem would be finding a number close enough to 100% to make that kind of firm statement I'd guess.

The PRC is pretty atheistic, with 'only' about 300 million out of 1.3 billion claiming any sort of faith - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6337627.stm

South Korea is another one with relatively low religious adherence (at least compared to the US where only 16.1% claim to not be religious), with over 46.5% of the population as atheists. 84% of Japanese did not claim a religion as of 1993, while 64% do not believe in God and 55% do not 'believe' in Buddha (which is strange considering that he is a historic figure).*

I guess the closest you'd get to something like 100% non-adherence is the DPRK, but it's pretty hard to find reliable statistics on any sort of demographics there.

*Source - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Japan

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Perestroika: Apr 8, 2010

Pfirti86 posted:

The PRC is pretty atheistic, with 'only' about 300 million out of 1.3 billion claiming any sort of faith - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6337627.stm

South Korea is another one with relatively low religious adherence (at least compared to the US where only 16.1% claim to not be religious), with over 46.5% of the population as atheists. 84% of Japanese did not claim a religion as of 1993, while 64% do not believe in God and 55% do not 'believe' in Buddha (which is strange considering that he is a historic figure).*

I guess the closest you'd get is something like the DPRK, but it's pretty hard to find reliable statistics on any sort of demographics there.

*Source - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Japan

As far as I'm aware there are some branches of buddhism that deify Buddha.
I guess the people that stated that they don't "believe" in Buddha meant that they don't believe that there was anything supernatural about him, but are not disputing his actual existence.

# ? Aug 16, 2010 21:55

Foyes36: Oct 23, 2005; Food fight!

Perestroika posted:

As far as I'm aware there are some branches of buddhism that deify Buddha.
I guess the people that stated that they don't "believe" in Buddha meant that they don't believe that there was anything supernatural about him, but are not disputing his actual existence.

Yeah, I'm just being pedantic I guess.

# ? Aug 16, 2010 22:08

Douginc: Mar 25, 2009

I'm just wondering how naive one would have to be to get their knowledge/education on Islam from a mass sent email? Do people really do this? I know the sad answer is yes, it's just baffling, however, that someone wouldn't do their own research, even if just for a few minutes.

# ? Aug 16, 2010 23:26

ought ten: Feb 6, 2004

Gripen5 posted:

"Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; the tribe against the world, and all of us against the infidel." -- Leon Uris, 'The Haj'

I base my assumptions about Muslims on fictional quotes in fictions by fiction writers like Maryland-born-and-raised Leon Uris.

# ? Aug 17, 2010 15:26

Intel&Sebastian: Oct 20, 2002; colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

ought ten posted:

I base my assumptions about Muslims on fictional quotes in fictions by fiction writers like Maryland-born-and-raised Leon Uris.

All that says to me is that Muslims must be amazing at life if they've become one of the most dominant faiths on the planet with an ideology spelled out as "Screw the guy above you, and if you've got time that one beside you too"

It'd be like winning the superbowl while your coach is telling you to tackle the guys wearing the same color as you.

Either that or absolutely none of them are following the MUSLIM CANON in which case I guess we should be happy?

# ? Aug 17, 2010 18:22

UltraPenguinX: Mar 23, 2009; TC: hOnK hOnK iM a MoThErFuCkInG sEaL :o)

Well, yesterday my dad was at a family reunion. My family consists of hardcore fundamentalist christian republicans. He asked for my e-mail address so I could be put in the 'family reunion guest book' so my distant relatives could send me things. Of course, without thinking, I gave him it.

I cannot wait until the flood begins.

# ? Aug 17, 2010 20:21

Gripen5: Nov 3, 2003; 'Startocaster' is more fun to say than I expected.

Two more today from the same guy. The first one has a bunch of pictures, almost all the pictures are of giant crowds of white people. One picture has a sheik shaking hands with a white guy.

quote:

This was not on TV

NATIONAL NEWS MEDIA SOMEHOW MISSED THIS GATHERING.

New York happenings......

Subj: Censored Protest at Ground Zero

Stop the Mosque at Ground Zero

Part II

June 16, 2010, New York , N.Y. , - by El Marco

Americans Stand Up Against Radical Islam in New York - We Will Not Submit!

Not one major network sent a satellite truck or camera crew to this event. Without bloggers this newsworthy event would have remained unknown to the public and history

On Sunday, June 6th, a multi-ethnic, multi-racial coalition of Americans opposed to Islamic violence and intolerance rallied at the site of the World Trade Center in New York City .

http://console.mxlogic.com/redir/?k...VphppjdQRIGzN_W

9/11 families were joined by immigrants from India, Russia, Egypt, Israel, Africa, Iran and Europe to show opposition to the construction of a mega-mosque at Ground Zero. Others flew in from overseas to speak or just to share their particular ethnic communities' experiences at the hands of Muslims.

http://console.mxlogic.com/redir/?k...Vphppjd-TtJ6jyo

These are parents and spouses of firefighters killed on 9/11. The rally took place just a minute's walk from Ladder 10 Firehouse, where their loved ones were stationed for duty that terrible day. Ladder 10 lost seven firefighters.

http://console.mxlogic.com/redir/?k...VphppjdW8CoTpOi

Crowd estimates ranged from 5,000 (NYPD) to 10,000. The crowd overflowed the police barrier enclosures that ran the full length of two city blocks. This photo shows the enclosure in front of the stage at the intersection of Liberty and Church Streets. The second enclosure ran the length of the next block and can be seen on the other side of the traffic lights.

http://console.mxlogic.com/redir/?5...BBcT5pk6KVAEEBo

Thousands of additional participants filled the treed area of Zuccotti Park .

http://console.mxlogic.com/redir/?2...OCrrfsuPPu8Vgwe

Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller are the founders of STOP ISLAMIZATION OF AMERICA, which sponsored the rally. Ms. Geller is a citizen journalist and blogger who runs the human rights web site Atlas Shrugs. Mr. Spencer is the author of several books on Islam and head of the influential web site Jihad watch. Pamela Geller:

"Ground Zero is a war memorial, Ground Zero is a burial ground. We are asking for sensitivity.It is unconscionable to build a shrine to the very ideology that inspired the jihadist attacks at Ground Zero, right there. We are asking the imam Rauf and Daisy Khan to be sensitive. For mutual respect and mutual understanding that is demanded of us every day.

There's a hair-trigger sensitivity in the Muslim world, you can't run the cartoons, you can't say Mohammed, this is offensive. This is an offensive mosque. To build a shrine, an Islamic flag of conquest on the sacred ground the cherished site, of a conquered land. This is historic, this is Islamic history. It's what they do. The St. Sofia in Turkey , the al-Quds, at the holiest Jewish site in Israel . Not here. This is where we take a stand. We must take a stand. We must say no."

I do not believe that the landmarks commission controlled by Mayor Bloomberg, is going to stop this mosque. It's not going to happen. Here's Omar Muhamedi, on his human rights council, a CAIR lawyer, who sued the airlines and the Jane and John Does that saw something and said something on those airplanes, if you remember. That's who's on his human rights commission. It ain't gonna happen with Bloomberg. We have to make it happen. You have to get involved." (Pamela Geller)

http://console.mxlogic.com/redir/?F...emkmmkPvT8oeWcT

Police enclosure on left, with crowd flowing out of park on right. The new Tower 7 and World Trade Center site are in the background. The green tent, center, is located immediately behind the stage.

http://console.mxlogic.com/redir/?a...OOyOOCrVyxJOIcO

Port Authority and NYPD officers kept watch over the rally and were well aware of the need for heightened security at this event. One of their own Port Authority officers, WTC Sergeant Alan T. De Vona was on duty at the World Trade Center on 9/11, 2001, and was one of the first to help victims of the terrorist attack. He spoke these words to the SIOA rally:

"It's almost nine years. I'm hoping that America is watching. I'm hoping that America is remembering. Because, make no mistake. September 11 was an act of war. And thank the military that has lost almost 5,000 troops from that day, defending us. I don't know what to say to jar America 's memory. I want America to remember.

http://console.mxlogic.com/redir/?5...IFCZQni8_LaSqYy

Port Authority Police and FDNY firefighters are seen here gathered beneath this banner.

http://console.mxlogic.com/redir/?a...OOyOOCrgpxtvqzS

The issues at stake will certainly affect the heart of American freedom, democracy, cultural values and tolerance. America is a tolerant country that allows for the free worship of all its citizens. But our tolerance has limits. Do we have to tolerate intolerant Islamic ideology and Muslims who preach intolerant Islam?"

http://console.mxlogic.com/redir/?5...emkmmkPrKWAU39e

Hindu human rights activists Narain Kataria, Prasad Yalamanchi and unidentified friend came from Mississippi and Chicago with banners and flyers highlighting the radical statements of imam Rauf and his jihadist roots.

http://console.mxlogic.com/redir/?2...VphppjdV6N5XSDm

http://console.mxlogic.com/redir/?5...SCUqemkmmkPsaPY

http://console.mxlogic.com/redir/?k...emkmmkPrXZXybWS

http://console.mxlogic.com/redir/?F...QT3hOOyOOCrrDKN

http://console.mxlogic.com/redir/?1...OOyOOCrNBnAAsrP

http://console.mxlogic.com/redir/?k...bapIAaiufuY4RHI

http://console.mxlogic.com/redir/?k...OOCrEDvDP1HiE-g

http://console.mxlogic.com/redir/?2...qrxEVphppjdRFGy

http://console.mxlogic.com/redir/?F...VphppjdClr_xckr

Stephen Dyer and Gary Jules journalism students at York College, with Pamela Geller. Not one major network sent a satellite truck or camera crew to this event. Without bloggers this newsworthy event would have remained unknown to the public and history.

http://console.mxlogic.com/redir/?5...sIEIIFCS2JW-5jn

Pamela Geller is greeted by Hindu human rights activists Prasad Yalamanchi and Narain Kataria.

http://console.mxlogic.com/redir/?2...bapKx4Eos3gP0kB

Bhupinder Singh Bhurji, Pamela Geller, and Robert Spencer. Singh Bhurji is the president of the NAMDHARI SIKH FOUNDATION. The foundation is a member of the Human Rights Coalition Against Radical Islam (HRCARI). HRCARI is a coalition of Hindus, Sikhs, Christians from Sudan, Egypt and Iraq, moderate Muslims and Jews - who are victims and targets of radical Islam around the globe. He said, at another rally:

"Radical Islamists are killing people in India , trying to dominate that nation. And here too they come with violence against "infidels." We are "infidels united," standing together, brown, black and white, against this epoch's fascist movement. Radical Islam wants to dominate entire world. They want everyone to surrender. Islam radical or otherwise. They want to put the Islamic flag on White House."

http://console.mxlogic.com/redir/?k...QT3hOOyOOCr2c15

Because of Islamic terrorism, America and the world have seen massive new security measures become a way of life. Anyone openly critical of Islam, or terrorist ideology, must surround themselves with security, or live in hiding. Those courageous enough to confront Islamism are criticized by the cowards and appeasers of the left who seek safety by supporting the enemy. Moderate Muslims were silent when Theo van Gogh was brutally murdered in Amsterdam , just as moderate Muslims in the United States are generally reluctant to speak out against violent Islam. Moderate Muslims also face great danger in speaking out.

Geller and Spencer will press on despite the danger. They hope to inspire Americans to stand up and say enough of political correctness and work to stem the galloping islamization of America and Europe .

http://console.mxlogic.com/redir/?1...mkPuRcooZYpFn3p

Friends,

Have you seen anything about this story on the evening news?

Of course you haven't! So please forward this email to all those

you know who feel the way you and I do about this country . . .

Thank you,

Here is the second one. I got bored so I didn't even read most of it, but thought I would share.

quote:

Remember the guy who got on a plane with a bomb built into his shoe and tried to light it?
Did you know his trial is over?
Did you know he was sentenced?
Did you see/hear any of the judge's comments on TV or Radio?
Didn't think so.!!!
Everyone should hear what the judge had to say.

Ruling by Judge William Young, US District Court.

Prior to sentencing, the Judge asked the defendant if he had anything to say His response: After admitting his guilt to the court for the record, Reid also admitted his 'allegiance to Osama bin Laden, to Islam, and to the religion of Allah,' defiantly stating, 'I think I will not apologize for my actions,' and told the court 'I am at war with your country.'

Judge Young then delivered the statement quoted below:

Judge Young: 'Mr. Richard C. Reid, hearken now to the sentence the Court imposes upon you.

On counts 1, 5 and 6 the Court sentences you to life in prison in the custody of the United States Attorney General. On counts 2, 3, 4 and 7, the Court sentences you to 20 years in prison on each count, the sentence on each count to run consecutively. (That's 80 years.)

On count 8 the Court sentences you to the mandatory 30 years again, to be served consecutively to the 80 years just imposed. The Court imposes upon you for each of the eight counts a fine of $250,000 that's an aggregate fine of $2 million. The Court accepts the government's recommendation with respect to restitution and orders restitution in the amount of $298.17 to Andre Bousquet and $5,784 to American Airlines.

The Court imposes upon you an $800 special assessment. The Court imposes upon you five years supervised release simply because the law requires it. But the life sentences are real life sentences so I need go no further.

This is the sentence that is provided for by our statutes. It is a fair and just sentence. It is a righteous sentence.

Now, let me explain this to you. We are not afraid of you or any of your terrorist co-conspirators, Mr. Reid. We are Americans. We have been through the fire before. There is too much war talk here and I say that to everyone with the utmost respect. Here in this court, we deal with individuals as individuals and care for individuals as individuals. As human beings, we reach out for justice.

You are not an enemy combatant. You are a terrorist. You are not a soldier in any war. You are a terrorist. To give you that reference, to call you a soldier, gives you far too much stature. Whether the officers of government do it or your attorney does it, or if you think you are a soldier, you are not----- you are a terrorist. And we do not negotiate with terrorists. We do not meet with terrorists. We do not sign documents with terrorists. We hunt them down one by one and bring them to justice.

So war talk is way out of line in this court You are a big fellow. But you are not that big. You're no warrior. I've known warriors. You are a terrorist. A species of criminal that is guilty of multiple attempted murders. In a very real sense, State Trooper Santiago had it right when you first were taken off that plane and into custody and you wondered where the press and the TV crews were, and he said: 'You're no big deal.'

You are no big deal.

What your able counsel and what the equally able United States attorneys have grappled with and what I have as honestly as I know how tried to grapple with, is why you did something so horrific. What was it that led you here to this courtroom today?

I have listened respectfully to what you have to say. And I ask you to search your heart and ask yourself what sort of unfathomable hate led you to do what you are guilty and admit you are guilty of doing? And, I have an answer for you. It may not satisfy you, but as I search this entire record, it comes as close to understanding as I know.

It seems to me you hate the one thing that to us is most precious. You hate our freedom. Our individual freedom. Our individual freedom to live as we choose, to come and go as we choose, to believe or not believe as we individually choose. Here, in this society, the very wind carries freedom. It carries it everywhere from sea to shining sea. It is because we prize individual freedom so much that you are here in this beautiful courtroom, so that everyone can see, truly see, that justice is administered fairly, individually, and discretely. It is for freedom's sake that your lawyers are striving so vigorously on your behalf, have filed appeals, will go on in their representation of you before other judges.

We Americans are all about freedom. Because we all know that the way we treat you, Mr. Reid, is the measure of our own liberties. Make no mistake though. It is yet true that we will bear any burden; pay any price, to preserve our freedoms. Look around this courtroom. Mark it well. The world is not going to long remember what you or I say here. The day after tomorrow, it will be forgotten, but this, however, will long endure.

Here in this courtroom and courtrooms all across America , the American people will gather to see that justice, individual justice, justice, not war, individual justice is in fact being done. The very President of the United States through his officers will have to come into courtrooms and lay out evidence on which specific matters can be judged and juries of citizens will gather to sit and judge that evidence democratically, to mold and shape and refine our sense of justice.

See that flag, Mr. Reid? That's the flag of the United States of America . That flag will fly there long after this is all forgotten. That flag stands for freedom. And it always will.

Mr. Custody Officer. Stand him down.
------------ --
So, how much of this Judge's comments did we hear on our TV sets? We need more judges like Judge Young. Pass this around. Everyone should and needs to hear what this fine judge had to say. Powerful words that strike home.

Please SEND this----so that everyone has a chance to read it.

Edit: Hmm, it seems the images were linked in too. Does that qualify as image leeching if it is expected to be distributed to everyone in America? I can edit out if necessary.

# ? Aug 17, 2010 21:10

Hardcore Phonography: Apr 28, 2004; I have my eye on a suite in Baker Street.

I bet HR would love to know about one of your co-workers using company email to forward spam. Unless you work for Xe.

# ? Aug 17, 2010 21:18

Gripen5: Nov 3, 2003; 'Startocaster' is more fun to say than I expected.

Hardcore Phonography posted:

I bet HR would love to know about one of your co-workers using company email to forward spam. Unless you work for Xe.

I work for a 15 person company, and my boss (who I have never spoken of politics with before or since, it was just a passing comment) said that tort reform is the way to fix health care costs. So I have a feeling I know which side of the argument he would take.

Besides, I see no reason to rock the boat, 99% of the time this guy sends cute and funny emails, he just moved on to political ones this week for whatever reason. And if I asked him to stop sending me emails, he would do it right away.

# ? Aug 17, 2010 21:31

Push El Burrito: May 9, 2006; Soiled Meat

My favorite thing about the second e-mail is that Judge Young specifically went out of his way to tell Reid that what he is saying will not be a big deal, because terror will not rule us and we will not let it become a big deal.

To which one person thought, "Hey, let's make a mass e-mail forward of this."

# ? Aug 17, 2010 22:28

crime fighting hog: Jun 29, 2006; I only pray, Heaven knows when to lift you out

I didn't know we couldn't even say Mohammad anymore. When did this happen?

# ? Aug 17, 2010 23:10

Tongsy: Aug 22, 2007

Just as I was reading this thread, one came in from my Aunt.

quote:

Subject: FW: LET ME SEE IF I GOT THIS RIGHT!!!

LET ME SEE IF I GOT THIS RIGHT!!!

IF YOU CROSS THE NORTH KOREAN BORDER
ILLEGALLY YOU GET 12 YEARS HARD LABOR.

IF YOU CROSS THE MEXICAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU ARE IMMEDIATELY JAILED THEN DEPORTED.

IF YOU CROSS THE IRANIAN BORDER
ILLEGALLY YOU ARE DETAINED INDEFINITELY.

IF YOU CROSS THE AFGHAN BORDER
ILLEGALLY, YOU GET SHOT.

IF YOU CROSS THE SAUDI ARABIAN BORDER
ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE JAILED.

IF YOU CROSS THE CHINESE BORDER
ILLEGALLY YOU MAY NEVER BE HEARD FROM AGAIN.

IF YOU CROSS THE VENEZUELAN BORDER
ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE BRANDED A SPY AND YOUR FATE WILL BE SEALED.

IF YOU CROSS THE CUBAN BORDER
ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE THROWN INTO POLITICAL PRISON TO ROT.

IF YOU CROSS THE Canadian Border (Note: Canadian Border was a different fontand size)
ILLEGALLY YOU GET

1 - A JOB,
2 - A DRIVERS LICENSE,
3 - SOCIAL SECURITY CARD,
4 - WELFARE,
5 - FOOD STAMPS,
6 - CREDIT CARDS,
7 - SUBSIDIZED RENT OR A LOAN TO BUY A HOUSE,
8 - FREE EDUCATION,
9 - FREE HEALTH CARE,
10 - A LOBBYIST IN PARLIMENT
11 - BILLIONS OF POUNDS WORTH OF PUBLIC DOCUMENTS PRINTED IN YOUR LANGUAGE
12 - AND THE RIGHT TO CARRY YOUR COUNTRY'S FLAG WHILE YOU PROTEST THAT YOU DON'T GET ENOUGH RESPECT
13. GET TO SCREW ANOTHER CANADIAN OUT OF WHAT SHOULD BE COMING TO THEM.....

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I HAD A
FIRM GRASP ON THE SITUATION.

# ? Aug 18, 2010 00:15

Intel&Sebastian: Oct 20, 2002; colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

I wish Tim Hortons would cross the border illegally.

# ? Aug 18, 2010 00:38

tek79: Jun 16, 2008

Tongsy posted:

Just as I was reading this thread, one came in from my Aunt.

This one pops up a lot, and the canned response is always something to the effect of "Are you saying we should be more like Iran, Venezuela, and North Korea?". Or you can tell them if they don't like our current border policy, they're more than welcome to move to any one of the aforementioned countries.

# ? Aug 18, 2010 00:55

Orkiec: Dec 28, 2008; My gut, huh?

Who are the illegal immigrants Canada complains about?

# ? Aug 18, 2010 01:23

Gripen5: Nov 3, 2003; 'Startocaster' is more fun to say than I expected.

Orkiec posted:

Who are the illegal immigrants Canada complains about?

Americans that hate our health care system?

# ? Aug 18, 2010 01:30

Hardcore Phonography: Apr 28, 2004; I have my eye on a suite in Baker Street.

Orkiec posted:

Who are the illegal immigrants Canada complains about?

Sarah Palin going up there in them there northern country for free health care, doncha know.

# ? Aug 18, 2010 01:35

Walter: Jul 3, 2003; We think they're great. In a grand, mystical, neopolitical sense, these guys have a real message in their music. They don't, however, have neat names like me and Bono.

Tongsy posted:

Just as I was reading this thread, one came in from my Aunt.

These always crack me up.

The same people who spout American (or in this case, Canadian) exceptionalism are the ones who act as though we should be following the lead of every tin pot dictator and oppressive regime around the world.

The cognitive dissonance is staggering.

EDIT: Beaten. Me am retarded.

# ? Aug 18, 2010 02:05

oxbrain: Aug 18, 2005; Put a glide in your stride and a dip in your hip and come on up to the mothership.

Tongsy posted:

3 - SOCIAL SECURITY CARD,
11 - BILLIONS OF POUNDS WORTH OF PUBLIC DOCUMENTS PRINTED IN YOUR LANGUAGE
13. GET TO SCREW ANOTHER CANADIAN OUT OF WHAT SHOULD BE COMING TO THEM.....

I thought canadians had social insurance cards and dollars. :confused:

# ? Aug 18, 2010 02:15

meatcookie: Jun 2, 2007

Orkiec posted:

Who are the illegal immigrants Canada complains about?

Right now we have a shipful of Tamil migrants from Sri Lanka that we're trying to decide WTF to do with.

# ? Aug 18, 2010 02:20

Corb3t: Jun 7, 2003

Intel&Sebastian posted:

I wish Tim Hortons would cross the border illegally.

Move to Ohio (really, it's not worth it). I have Tim Hortons across the street from my job!

# ? Aug 18, 2010 03:07

Saint Sputnik: Apr 1, 2007; Tyrannosaurs in P-51 Volkswagens!

Corbet posted:

Move to Ohio (really, it's not worth it). I have Tim Hortons across the street from my job!

Combination Tim Hortons/Wendys are pretty fuckin' swell. (Wendys, an Ohio-based company, bought TH a few years ago.)

# ? Aug 18, 2010 05:10

Logan 5: Jan 29, 2007; Bash -> To the Cop

Burrito posted:

"Hey, let's make a mass e-mail forward of this."

This is unrelated to that email: A while ago in this thread there was the idea that goons should create our own insane emails and see if they could get accepted and forwarded around. It sounded like a hilariously awesome idea to me, but no real ideas surfaced and it never happened.

In the GBS Fox News hate thread there was some brief discussion about how the people comparing Obama to Hitler were the more probable ones to follow a charismatic leader blindly, and then you posted a series of Hitler quotes slightly edited so that it seemed like a modern-day conservative said it. A few examples for the thread:

Burrito posted:

"When the question is still put to us why Conservatism fights with such fanaticism against the Muslim element in America, why it pressed and still presses for its removal then the answer can only be: Because Conservatism desires to establish a true community of the people�. Because we are Conservatives we can never suffer an alien race which has nothing to do with us to claim the leadership of our people."

"We swear we are not going to abandon the struggle until the Last Mosque in America has been emptied and is actually closed. It is not enough to isolate the Muslim enemy of mankind-the Mosques have got to be exterminated."

"If the Tea Party is ever really in power, the deportation of the Illegals will be my first and most important job. As soon as I have power, I shall have fence after fence erected, for example, in Arizona on the border-as many of them as traffic allows. Then the Illegals will be deported one after another, and they will stay out until they gain citizenship legally. They will stay out as long as legally possible. As soon as they are deported, then the next group will follow and that will continue until the last Illegal in Arizona is deported. Exactly the same procedure will be followed in other states until America is cleansed of the last Illegal!"

These are brilliant. And in my view absolutely perfect for creating some fake conservative emails. All that's required is a fake back story to introduce the quotes probably, which should be easy enough considering all the templates provided by this thread. And there isn't a shortage of quotes in which Hitler actually sounds like a modern day tea partier, evoking God constantly and being nationalistic. All that really needs to change is "jews" to "illegal aliens", "germany/reich" to "America", "national socialists" to "tea party, etc., as your examples demonstrate. So goons, what say you to this idea?

# ? Aug 19, 2010 03:27

PerniciousKnid: Sep 13, 2006

Logan 5 posted:

So goons, what say you to this idea?

Hello honeypot Facebook status updates. I wonder which I'll get first; a liberal outcry at my newfound fascism, or family members asking which glorious Tea Partier I'm quoting. :v:

Edit: Oh God it took about forty seconds for my dad to respond with "Amen!"

On a related note, I think I might hide Dad on Facebook. It seems like every day I see him join a group named I DONT WANT TO HAVE TO PRESS ONE FOR ENGLISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or whatever. It's weird because he basically concedes my point 80% of the time I discuss anything remotely political with him, but the internet has turned him into a crazy person.

PerniciousKnid fucked around with this message at 03:51 on Aug 19, 2010

# ? Aug 19, 2010 03:44

Logan 5: Jan 29, 2007; Bash -> To the Cop

Doomclown posted:

Hello honeypot Facebook status updates. I wonder which I'll get first; a liberal outcry at my newfound fascism, or family members asking which glorious Tea Partier I'm quoting.

Edit: Oh God it took about forty seconds for my dad to respond with "Amen!"

On a related note, I think I might hide Dad on Facebook. It seems like every day I see him join a group named I DONT WANT TO HAVE TO PRESS ONE FOR ENGLISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or whatever. It's weird because he basically concedes my point 80% of the time I discuss anything remotely political with him, but the internet has turned him into a crazy person.

oh drat, I didn't even think of the facebook status applications of this idea! No back story or set-up needed, just the quote. Brilliant if you want to painfully demonstrate to your family and friends that they harbor terrible views. Or just piss them off because clearly Obama is the nazi since they were the national SOCIALIST party and glenn said...

# ? Aug 19, 2010 05:58

Nessus: Dec 22, 2003; After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!

Logan 5 posted:

oh drat, I didn't even think of the facebook status applications of this idea! No back story or set-up needed, just the quote. Brilliant if you want to painfully demonstrate to your family and friends that they harbor terrible views. Or just piss them off because clearly Obama is the nazi since they were the national SOCIALIST party and glenn said...

Here's a good one:

"We have experienced a miracle, something unique, something the like of which there has hardly been in the history of the world. God first allowed our people to be victorious for six years, then He abased us, laid upon us a period of shamelessness, but now after a struggle of four years he has permitted us to bring that period to a close. It is a miracle which has been wrought upon the American people.... It shows us that the Almighty has not deserted our people, that He received it into favour at the moment when it rediscovered itself. And that our people shall never again lose itself, that must be our vow so long as we shall live and so long as the Lord gives us the strength to carry on the fight."

I really just had to alter the dates to correspond to the demoncrat congress! :v:

# ? Aug 19, 2010 06:02

Intel&Sebastian: Oct 20, 2002; colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

Honestly I think the thinking needed to walk these people from "Oh you just pulled a trick on me" to "I guess I really should be concerned that I'd agree with the gist of what Hitler is saying" is too much for the types of people who would get all boostery about it.

# ? Aug 19, 2010 21:06

Shrecknet: Jan 2, 2005

Logan-5 posted:

These are brilliant. And in my view absolutely perfect for creating some fake conservative emails. All that's required is a fake back story to introduce the quotes probably, which should be easy enough considering all the templates provided by this thread. And there isn't a shortage of quotes in which Hitler actually sounds like a modern day tea partier, evoking God constantly and being nationalistic. All that really needs to change is "jews" to "illegal aliens", "germany/reich" to "America", "national socialists" to "tea party, etc., as your examples demonstrate. So goons, what say you to this idea?

Credit them to Fredrick A. Schist for maximum comedy/tip-off that you're kidding.

# ? Aug 19, 2010 21:22

Econosaurus: Sep 22, 2008; Successfully predicted nine of the last five recessions

Someone please put together an email with all of these quotes in some sort of narrative. The humor potential is astounding

# ? Aug 19, 2010 22:18

PerniciousKnid: Sep 13, 2006

Intel&Sebastian posted:

Honestly I think the thinking needed to walk these people from "Oh you just pulled a trick on me" to "I guess I really should be concerned that I'd agree with the gist of what Hitler is saying" is too much for the types of people who would get all boostery about it.

My dad basically said "I agree with Hitler as far as reigning in liberalism but I think he went too far by killing people" and that was that. He didn't seem too concerned about it.

# ? Aug 19, 2010 22:28

Intel&Sebastian: Oct 20, 2002; colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

Doomclown posted:

My dad basically said "I agree with Hitler as far as reigning in liberalism but I think he went too far by killing people" and that was that. He didn't seem too concerned about it.

Well that's an interesting stance to take coming from a movement that declares their opponents Marxists for not wanting to set Van Jones adrift but okay dad.

# ? Aug 19, 2010 22:51

Turing sex machine: Dec 14, 2008; I want to have
your robot-babies

Doomclown posted:

My dad basically said "I agree with Hitler as far as reigning in liberalism but I think he went too far by killing people" and that was that. He didn't seem too concerned about it.

But that's reasonable. (Well, unless Hitler's plans for reigning of liberalism were as insane as the holocaust.)

And the same goes for Burrito's disguised Hitler quotes. You don't actually prove anything by saying "you're agreeing with Hitler". Hitler was a human being, not the incarnation of absolute evil. Hitler ate sugar. Not every opinion he held was wrong, and even his wrong opinions weren't necessarily demented and evil. I'm sure there are plenty of disguised Hitler quotes that you would agree with.

Turing sex machine fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Aug 19, 2010

# ? Aug 19, 2010 22:57

JGTheSpy: Jul 31, 2002; Excuse me, but if I could have a moment of your time, I'd like to explain why you're not actually enjoying that game that you're enjoying. You see, I am in fact an expert. At games. I know, it's impressive.

I was reading the secret Hitler quotes out loud last night and some lose any sort of meaning when you take out the killing Jews stuff. Deporting illegal immigrants doesn't have the same weight.

The ones about Islam are perfect, although I'm not sure sure you'd get as many right wingers to go along with those unless they were in a room full of right wingers.

# ? Aug 19, 2010 23:03

Intel&Sebastian: Oct 20, 2002; colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

Turing sex machine posted:

But that's reasonable. (Well, unless Hitler's plans for reigning of liberalism were as insane as the holocaust.)

And the same goes for Burrito's disguised Hitler quotes. You don't actually prove anything by saying "you're agreeing with Hitler". Hitler was a human being, not the incarnation of absolute evil. Hitler ate sugar. Not every opinion he held was wrong, and even his wrong opinions weren't necessarily demented and evil. I'm sure there are plenty of disguised Hitler quotes that you would agree with.

Well the original point before people went all "lol you agreed with Hitler" was something about a conservatives eagerness to agree with eliminationism and fascist tactics. Which is something that they should be ashamed about but you have to pick your quotes more selectively.

Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Aug 19, 2010

# ? Aug 19, 2010 23:17

PerniciousKnid: Sep 13, 2006

Turing sex machine posted:

But that's reasonable. (Well, unless Hitler's plans for reigning of liberalism were as insane as the holocaust.)

And the same goes for Burrito's disguised Hitler quotes. You don't actually prove anything by saying "you're agreeing with Hitler". Hitler was a human being, not the incarnation of absolute evil. Hitler ate sugar. Not every opinion he held was wrong, and even his wrong opinions weren't necessarily demented and evil. I'm sure there are plenty of disguised Hitler quotes that you would agree with.

But Hitler is a good example of what happens when you take fear of The Others too far in politics. Has anyone in history gone around saying things like "Muslims are evil" or "I will wipe out the elements threatening <locally popular religion>" and done more good than harm?

I don't think it makes much sense to say "You're a vegetarian? So was Hitler! Hahaha ur evil". I do think it's fair game to make a point about the logical conclusion of a political philosophy based on fear and hatred of others.

# ? Aug 19, 2010 23:21

Pungent Mammy: Jul 29, 2003; The pig is a huge fat pig.; Fallen Rib

gaaaah

quote:

In previous emails, I suggested that a �train� was about to run you over. I suggested that complacency and apathy were about to kill this country. I suggested you wake up and investigate the information I was sending you and not take my word for it! GUESS WHAT? Too late to get off the track now, the train is about to run you over! Many months before the 08 elections, I started warning my friends and others of the danger electing Obama would bring! Many of you most likely said to yourself, �Oh that could never happen in America�. Many of you may have thought I just went off the deep end. To you I say, SPLAT!

This is a message from Barb's cousin Ed Schrock who was a 2 term congressman from Virginia and left because of the corruption. He is normally fairly silent on political messages sent out. Here are his comments and the tax information.

August 10, 2010
Hello Everyone,

I've never sent a single document to so many people at one time ever. But you need to read this from start to finish. Our government is about ready to do things to us we could never have imagined just a short time ago. Read it and weep.
Its horribly hot here in McLean, VA and I hope wherever you are its nicer than it is here.

Ed Schrock

For those of you scratching your head saying, �What�, I think Mr. Schrock is suggesting you may not be able to afford to run your air conditioner!

In just six months, on January 1, 2011, the largest tax hikes in the history of America will take effect.

They will hit families and small businesses in three great waves. On January 1, 2011, here�s what happens... (read it to the end, so you see all three waves)...

First Wave:

Expiration of 2001 and 2003 Tax Relief

In 2001 and 2003, the GOP Congress enacted several tax cuts for investors, small business owners, and families. These will all expire on January 1, 2011.

Personal income tax rates will rise.

The top income tax rate will rise from 35 to 39.6 percent (this is also the rate at which two-thirds of small business profits are taxed). The lowest rate will rise from 10 to 15 percent. All the rates in between will also rise. Itemized deductions and personal exemptions will again phase out, which has the same mathematical effect as highermarginal tax rates.

The full list of marginal rate hikes is below:
The 10% bracket rises to an expanded 15%
The 25% bracket rises to 28%
The 28% bracket rises to 31%
The 33% bracket rises to 36%
The 35% bracket rises to 39.6%
Higher taxes on marriage and family.

The "marriage penalty" (narrower tax brackets for married couples) will return from the first dollar of income.
The child tax credit will be cut in half from $1000 to $500 per child.
The standard deduction will no longer be doubled for married couples relative to the single level.
The dependent care and adoption tax credits will be cut.

The return of the Death Tax.

This year only, there is no death tax. (It�s a quirk!) For those dying on or after January 1, 2011, there is a 55 percent top death tax rate on estates over $1 million. A person leaving behind two homes, a business, a retirement account, could easily pass along a death tax bill to their loved ones. Think of the farmers who don�t make much money, but their land, which they purchased years ago with after-tax dollars, is now worth a lot of money. Their children will have to sell the farm, which may be their livelihood, just to pay the estate tax if they don�t have the cash sitting around to pay the tax. Think about your own family�s assets. Maybe your family owns real estate, or a business that doesn�t make much money, but the building and equipment are worth $1 million. Upon their death, you can inherit the $1 million business tax free, but if they own a home, stock, cash worth $500K on top of the $1 million business, then you will owe the government $275,000 cash! That�s 55% of the value of the assets over $1 million! Do you have that kind of cash sitting around waiting to pay the estate tax?

Higher tax rates on savers and investors.

The capital gains tax will rise from 15 percent this year to 20 percent in 2011. The dividends tax will rise from 15 percent this year to 39.6 percent in 2011.
These rates will rise another 3.8 percent in 2013.

Second Wave:

Obamacare

There are over twenty new or higher taxes in Obamacare. Several will first go into effect on January 1, 2011. They include:

The "Medicine Cabinet Tax"

Thanks to Obamacare, Americans will no longer be able to use health savings account (HSA), flexible spending account (FSA), or health reimbursement (HRA) pre-tax dollars to purchase non-prescription, over-the-counter medicines (except insulin).

The "Special Needs Kids Tax"

This provision of Obamacare imposes a cap on flexible spending accounts (FSAs) of $2500 (Currently, there is no federal government limit). There is one group of FSA owners for whom this new cap will be particularly cruel and onerous: parents of special needs children.

There are thousands of families with special needs children in the United States, and many of them use FSAs to pay for special needs education.

Tuition rates at one leading school that teaches special needs children in Washington , D.C. ( National Child Research Center ) can easily exceed $14,000 per year.

Under tax rules, FSA dollars can not be used to pay for this type of special needs education.

The HSA (Health Savings Account) Withdrawal Tax Hike.

This provision of Obamacare increases the additional tax on non-medical early withdrawals from an HSA from 10 to 20 percent, disadvantaging them relative to IRAsand other tax-advantaged accounts, which remain at 10 percent.

Third Wave:

The Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) and Employer Tax Hikes

When Americans prepare to file their tax returns in January of 2011, they'll be in for a nasty surprise-the AMT won't be held harmless, and many tax relief provisions will have expired.

The major items include:

The AMT will ensnare over 28 million families, up from 4 million last year.

According to the left-leaning Tax Policy Center, Congress' failure to index the AMT will lead to an explosion of AMT taxpaying families-rising from 4 million last year to 28.5 million. These families will have to calculate their tax burdens twice, and pay taxes at the higher level. The AMT was created in 1969 to ensnare a handful of taxpayers.

Small business expensing will be slashed and 50% expensing will disappear.

Small businesses can normally expense (rather than slowly-deduct, or "depreciate") equipment purchases up to $250,000.

This will be cut all the way down to $25,000. Larger businesses can currently expense half of their purchases of equipment.

In January of 2011, all of it will have to be "depreciated."

Taxes will be raised on all types of businesses.

There are literally scores of tax hikes on business that will take place. The biggest is the loss of the "research and experimentation tax credit," but there are many, many others. Combining high marginal tax rates with the loss of this tax relief will cost jobs.

Tax Benefits for Education and Teaching Reduced.

The deduction for tuition and fees will not be available. Tax credits for education will be limited. Teachers will no longer be able to deduct classroom expenses.
Coverdell Education Savings Accounts will be cut. Employer-provided educational assistance is curtailed. The student loan interest deduction will be disallowed for hundreds of thousands of families.

Charitable Contributions from IRAs no longer allowed.

Under current law, a retired person with an IRA can contribute up to $100,000 per year directly to a charity from their IRA. This contribution also counts toward an annual "required minimum distribution." This ability will no longer be there.

PDF Version Read more: <http://www.atr.org/six-months-untilbr-largest-tax-hikes-a5171>; http://www.atr.org/six-months-untilbr-largest-tax-hikes-a5171#%23ixzz0sY8waPq1

And worse yet?

Now, your insurance will be INCOME on your W2's!

One of the surprises we'll find come next year, is what follows - - a little "surprise" that 99% of us had no idea was included in the "new and improved" healthcare legislation . . . those who backed this administration will be astonished!

Starting in 2011, (next year folks), your W-2 tax form sent by your employer will be increased to show the value of whatever health insurance you are given by the company. It does not matter if that's a private concern or governmental body of some sort.

If you're retired? So what... your gross will go up by the amount of insurance you get.

You will be required to pay taxes on a large sum of money that you have never seen. Take your tax form you just finished and see what $15,000 or $20,000 additional gross does to your tax debt. That's what you'll pay next year.

For many, it also puts you into a new higher bracket so it's even worse.

This is how the government is going to buy insurance for the15% that don't have insurance and it's only part of the tax increases.

Not believing this??? Here is a research of the summaries.....

On page 25 of 29: TITLE IX REVENUE PROVISIONS- SUBTITLE A: REVENUE OFFSET PROVISIONS-(sec. 9001, as modified by sec. 10901) Sec.9002 "requires employers to include in the W-2 form of each employee the aggregate cost of applicable employer sponsored group health coverage that is excludable from the employees gross income."

- Joan Pryde is the senior tax editor for the Kiplinger letters.
- Go to Kiplingers and read about 13 tax changes that could affect you. Number 3 is what is above.

Why am I sending you this? The same reason I hope you forward this to every single person in your address book.

People have the right to know the truth because an election is coming in November!

THE PEOPLE DESERVE TO KNOW

Also I'm not sure, but I think the email refers to this Ed Schrock: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Schrock

He left because of "corruption".

# ? Aug 19, 2010 23:45

Zwabu: Aug 7, 2006

Pungent Mammy posted:

gaaaah

THE PEOPLE DESERVE TO KNOW

Also I'm not sure, but I think the email refers to this Ed Schrock: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Schrock

He left because of "corruption".

It's easy to miss the information out of the wiki you posted, but dude's name was familiar for some reason...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_sex_scandals_of_the_United_States#2000-2009

quote:

Ed Schrock Congressman (R-VA) who aggressively fought gay rights programs, dropped out of his third term race after he was discovered soliciting sex from a male prostitute and finally admitted that he himself was gay.(2004)[18]

Corruption indeed.

# ? Aug 20, 2010 00:31

the yellow dart: Jul 19, 2004; King of rings, armlocks, hugs, and our hearts

I like how it is a massive freak out over essentially returning to the tax levels pre-2001, which still has the US at some of the lowest taxes in the Western world, and which were predicated on a solid economy and the surpluses of the Clinton era. Oh but lets cut more taxes so we can fix the deficit trickle down Milton Friedman Jesus-Reagan :psyboom:

# ? Aug 20, 2010 00:35

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# ? May 10, 2024 09:58

Pungent Mammy: Jul 29, 2003; The pig is a huge fat pig.; Fallen Rib

I responded with some facts about letting the Bush tax cuts expire (including this graphic: http://www.fastcodesign.com/1662116/infographic-who-benefits-from-the-republican-tax-plan , which was quickly dismissed because Ezra Klein is "Merely an 'idealog'") and got a response. 700 words, but this is all you need to read:

quote:

As Nancy �Piglosi� said

# ? Aug 20, 2010 02:02

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