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sigmachiev posted:Got my first BigLaw rejection letter today! I am one with the brotherhood now. sup bro. Of course you jumped ship to a real school so you have more chances at biglaw. I only have like 6 real interviews and I've already got one rejection. Is E&J Brandy the proper brand to drink my woes away with?
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JudicialRestraints posted:Is E&J Brandy the proper brand to drink my woes away with? Brandy's a good choice. I've been rocking a bottle of St. Remy the last couple of days.
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JudicialRestraints posted:Is E&J Brandy the proper brand to drink my woes away with? Normally no, but Wisconsinites get a free pass when it comes to brandy, since they consume about 14% of the nation's supply.
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Aug 25, 2010 05:17
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Abugadu posted:Normally no, but Wisconsinites get a free pass when it comes to brandy, since they consume about 14% of the nation's supply. I would imagine that Wisconsinites consume 14% of the worlds alcohol.
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Aug 25, 2010 05:50
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nm posted:I would imagine that Wisconsinites consume 14% of the worlds alcohol. They did just recently revise their DUI laws, so that there's the potential of jail time for third-time offenders. First time is still just a violation, though.
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Abugadu posted:They did just recently revise their DUI laws, so that there's the potential of jail time for third-time offenders. That's only for the third time when the small town cop doesn't just take your keys and drive you home without worrying about any of that 'paperwork.'
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JudicialRestraints posted:
Oh, the mighty Erk & Jerk. Roll on.
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JudicialRestraints posted:That's only for the third time when the small town cop doesn't just take your keys and drive you home without worrying about any of that 'paperwork.' Haha I am from small-town Michigan and this exact thing happened to me when I was in high school around 1994... I was driving my dads truck down a back road, with the door open, puking out of it while I drove. I was hammered off of MD 20/20. County cop pulled me over, asked if I "felt allright", told him no I was a bit under the weather. His partner drove my dad's truck home, knocked on the door and woke up my dad to tell him I was back, said good night and left. Small towns own.
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So my boss is kind of a persnickety dude, he's a solo practicioner that does mostly torts and some business contract dispute stuff. He's been in a real pissy mood lately and things haven't been going real great around work. The problem I have is that he hasn't yet written me my letter for federal clerkship apps, and I'm concerned that if he's not in a good mood he won't do it. Would it make my already marginal chances any more marginal to use a backup letter I have from my writing professor who I TA'd for? That would make all three of my letters from faculty (one from an Associate Dean who I had five classes with and TA'd for and gave me multiple "jurisprudence awards", one from an adjunct clinic professor who is also a high-up in the State Appellate Defender's Office, and one from this writing professor). Is that better/worse/no difference/who-the-gently caress-cares-you're-not-getting-a-clerkship than 2 letters from faculty and one from my current employer?
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Abugadu posted:They did just recently revise their DUI laws, so that there's the potential of jail time for third-time offenders.
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Defleshed posted:Haha I am from small-town Michigan and this exact thing happened to me when I was in high school around 1994... wait wait wait we got into a fight one time about whether or not Grand Rapids sucks. you were part of the "sucks" camp and i opposed you what high school did you go to?
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J Miracle posted:So my boss is kind of a persnickety dude, he's a solo practicioner that does mostly torts and some business contract dispute stuff. He's been in a real pissy mood lately and things haven't been going real great around work. The problem I have is that he hasn't yet written me my letter for federal clerkship apps, and I'm concerned that if he's not in a good mood he won't do it. Would it make my already marginal chances any more marginal to use a backup letter I have from my writing professor who I TA'd for? That would make all three of my letters from faculty (one from an Associate Dean who I had five classes with and TA'd for and gave me multiple "jurisprudence awards", one from an adjunct clinic professor who is also a high-up in the State Appellate Defender's Office, and one from this writing professor). Is that better/worse/no difference/who-the-gently caress-cares-you're-not-getting-a-clerkship than 2 letters from faculty and one from my current employer? write it for him and ask him to sign it.
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Feces Starship posted:wait wait wait we got into a fight one time about whether or not Grand Rapids sucks. you were part of the "sucks" camp and i opposed you That may have been a couple years ago when I was still a new Chicagoan and was all "BIG CITIES OWN, loving OWN" Grand Rapids still does kind of suck, mostly for the fact that it is controlled by the Christian Reformed Church and the Amway families. I went to high school in Allendale, out in the cow pastures by GVSU.
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J Miracle posted:So my boss is kind of a persnickety dude, he's a solo practicioner that does mostly torts and some business contract dispute stuff. He's been in a real pissy mood lately and things haven't been going real great around work. The problem I have is that he hasn't yet written me my letter for federal clerkship apps, and I'm concerned that if he's not in a good mood he won't do it. Would it make my already marginal chances any more marginal to use a backup letter I have from my writing professor who I TA'd for? That would make all three of my letters from faculty (one from an Associate Dean who I had five classes with and TA'd for and gave me multiple "jurisprudence awards", one from an adjunct clinic professor who is also a high-up in the State Appellate Defender's Office, and one from this writing professor). Is that better/worse/no difference/who-the-gently caress-cares-you're-not-getting-a-clerkship than 2 letters from faculty and one from my current employer? My understanding is that Federal Clerkships are a magical land where academic references are actually preferred over anything as mundane and plebian as an actual WORK reference. Don't let them see the dirt under your nails, have the prof. write it.
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Flying out to HLS tomorrow. Freakin' the gently caress out! Any HLS goons out there? Helpful tips? I've been living on the West Coast for five years. Will I be shocked (shocked!) by the more intense and bitchy attitudes there? Are HLS students as horrible as some say they are?
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Jove posted:Flying out to HLS tomorrow. Freakin' the gently caress out! Any HLS goons out there? Helpful tips? One of the coolest people I've ever known is a 2L at Harvard. I might be able to put you two in contact.
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Jove posted:Flying out to HLS tomorrow. Freakin' the gently caress out! Any HLS goons out there? Helpful tips? HLS' reputation as a place for sociopathic gunners is mostly a product of students at other top tier law schools trying to find reasons not to feel disappointed about not getting in. It's law school, so it's not going to be cuddly because the American law school model is not built in a way to give you College Pt. II. However, from my experience with lots of HLS students, people at HLS are more likely to be secure about themselves, much more relaxed around other law students in general, and aren't going to view every classmate as a potential enemy. Honestly, I think it's probably students at the lower ranked schools you have to be worried about. Everything said about HLS students actually happens at those places.
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TyChan posted:HLS' reputation as a place for sociopathic gunners is mostly a product of students at other top tier law schools trying to find reasons not to feel disappointed about not getting in. This is pretty much right. I mean if you only need to be top 50 or something ridiculous like top 75 why work hard? Down here at rank 28 you apparently need to be top 15 to even have a shot at NLJ 250 let alone a Vault Firm. Sociopathic gunning gets intense in that environment.
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Grand Rapids would be awesome if there were any jobs and if there weren't any jesus freaks there.
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Jove posted:Flying out to HLS tomorrow. Freakin' the gently caress out! Any HLS goons out there? Helpful tips? It's awesome. Relax. People are very rarely horrible in the Paper Chase sense. There are a lot of people who are extremely socially awkward, but the school is big enough that you'll be able to find a large group of people who are well-adjusted, funny, and brilliant. You're going to love it.
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nm posted:Law School is high school pt2. Instead of jocks, you have law review editors. UVA actually still has jocks and they are still the cool kids.
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Cambridge is wonderful too, if that helps. If you ever end up hating HLS then you can spend plenty of time outside of it. The weather may be a shock, though, depending on where you're from. At least you're not flying out today in this goddamn rain.
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Petey posted:Cambridge is wonderful too, if that helps. I flew in from Michigan yesterday and my plane got delayed by two hours. I nearly missed the Red line and had to take a cab because of it. One of these days I'm going to get around to finishing that weather machine and we won't have these problems anymore I will, however, use it to make it rain perpetually on HLS
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Anyone recommend a good evidence supplement?
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HooKars posted:UVA actually still has jocks and they are still the cool kids. I always wanted a NGSL jersey. Have you started working yet?
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Thanks for all the advice, guys. You're all probably right and I'll become acclimated given enough time. I'm moving from Portland, OR so I doubt the weather will shock me.
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TyChan posted:Have you started working yet? Nope, one more weekend left of freedom - I start on Monday
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Yay I got another callback through email spamming places that didn't interview with us!
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nm posted:Law School is high school pt2. Instead of jocks, you have law review editors. No, no, law school is junior high.
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3 interviews today. The one with the big firm had two guys. One of the guys spent the entire time checking his Blackberry and looking up at me occasionally. Not expecting a call back.
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TyChan posted:HLS' reputation as a place for sociopathic gunners is mostly a product of students at other top tier law schools trying to find reasons not to feel disappointed about not getting in. spent 1L year drawing comics about federal judges being huge jerks, got straight P's, feelin' fine (not really) e: seriously get out and talk to some people you goon, even the gunners are relatively personable here Bro Enlai fucked around with this message at 00:57 on Aug 26, 2010 |
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fougera posted:any advice for callback interviews? You should know this by now, but: Firm has already decided you are smart enough to work for them. Callback is about if you are cool enough to work for them. Or as one partner put it to me, "Could I stand to be stuck in an airport in Cleveland for 12 straight hours with this person?" Maybe some rear end in a top hat associate will ask you a substantive legal question. That happened to me. Once. gently caress that guy. Be cool, show an interest in the firm and the people interviewing you. Be prepared to talk about your interests or outside hobbies. The ideal callback interview should feel like you just met several new people in succession at a frat party and successfully shot the poo poo with each of them. Questions you ask should be stuff like "How does summer work get assigned around here?" Or "What's you're favorite experience from working here at the firm in the last year?" Or "What programs does the firm have in place for associate development?" or some poo poo like that. No mushy questions about work-life balance. Be expected to be asked about who else you have callbacks with. Come up with a convincing lie that makes you sound desirable if the real answer is "You're my only hope."
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billion dollar bitch posted:Do firms still do callbacks after labor day?
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billion dollar bitch posted:Yay I got another callback through email spamming places that didn't interview with us! aren't you at CLS? is it that brutal? I mean, its pretty bad down here at GULC...
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Said gently caress it yesterday and applied to clerk for Easterbrook, I've got a decent shot right?
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billion dollar bitch posted:Do firms still do callbacks after labor day? U.Va.'s Career Services Dean said that you usually shouldn't worry until about October. You might want to take that with a grain of salt, though. That was back in the relatively halcion days of 2002.
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