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Slantedfloors posted:Do Sullustans even have necks? Isn't their head just a disgusting lump coming off their torso? That sounds like hilarious Imperial propaganda to me. Rodians can't jump!
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Aug 26, 2010 02:17
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So I've got a question, I'm currently reading through Dark Force Rising right now and there's a part where they discuss the Empire sending troops to a city and that the force they send consists of mostly standard army troops and some stormtroopers. I always thought Stormtroopers were the standard troops in the Imperial Army? Can someone clear this up for me?
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Aug 26, 2010 03:01
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Boondock Saint posted:So I've got a question, I'm currently reading through Dark Force Rising right now and there's a part where they discuss the Empire sending troops to a city and that the force they send consists of mostly standard army troops and some stormtroopers. Stormtroopers are intended as elite shock troopers. Special training, special armor, etc.
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Aug 26, 2010 03:04
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sniper4625 posted:Stormtroopers are intended as elite shock troopers. Special training, special armor, etc. Not according to the movies. This is one of my biggest beefs with the EU. They're just lovely blaster fodder in the movies, why try to explain it any further than that?
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Aug 26, 2010 03:06
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deathsuxdontdie posted:Not according to the movies. This is one of my biggest beefs with the EU. They're just lovely blaster fodder in the movies, why try to explain it any further than that? I accept it because the Rebel soldiers are shittier blaster fodder. It is insane though that some of them are far off recloned versions descended from the Clonetroopers who are just plain a million times more professional and efficient than them.
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Aug 26, 2010 03:10
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Torael_7 posted:You've got a huge amount of space to cover and your biggest capital ships comprise a tiny fraction of your fleet, so that when someone else (such as Thrawn) shows up with four of them in one place, the local defenses are probably very, very badly outgunned. Oh, I don't mean that they couldn't do something on a local level. Just as the marines of 40K could probably absolutely smash a stalemated trench war, Thrawn showing up in the right place could, as you said, really outgun his opponents. I'm saying, on a galactic level, these people are irrelevant and insignificant. They would have no effect on long term galactic developments, yet they are portrayed as the most important actors in the galaxy. As I said, it's poor writers trying to stretch reality to allow their subjects to be really important and epic and galaxy spanning instead of what they should be; a regional blip. Rrail fucked around with this message at 03:23 on Aug 26, 2010 |
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Aug 26, 2010 03:21
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Rrail posted:Oh, I don't mean that they couldn't do something on a local level. Just as the marines of 40K could probably absolutely smash a stalemated trench war, Thrawn showing up in the right place could, as you said, really outgun his opponents. I'm saying, on a galactic level, these people are irrelevant and insignificant. They would have no effect on long term galactic developments, yet they are portrayed as the most important actors in the galaxy. As I said, it's poor writers trying to stretch reality to allow their subjects to be really important and epic and galaxy spanning instead of what they should be; a regional blip. Its probably due to the fact some marketing dude over at Lucasbooks or whatever saying that they have to be there and be part of the major action. Probably cause he thinks people would be scared if they opened a Star Wars book and it didn't have Han or Luke in it and go "I thought this was Star Wars." Little do they know that people who still read SW books I would say 9/10 times have read the books that came before it and don't need the big three.
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Aug 26, 2010 03:44
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Where did the famous phrase "I sure am tired of these Star Wars" originally come from?
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Aug 26, 2010 04:25
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Where did the famous phrase "I sure am sick of these Star Wars" originally come from? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYWVQ-u1HH8
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Aug 26, 2010 04:26
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Where did the famous phrase "I sure am sick of these Star Wars" originally come from? I think it was from an episode of Upright Citizens Brigade, and that it went "I'm just tired of all these Star Wars." On Edit: Beaten.
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Aug 26, 2010 04:27
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Oh boy oh boy the weekend is getting closer. I'm going to reinstall 2142 for the First Strike release! Also, one more EaW related post, The Thrawn Trilogy based mod is getting closer to release.
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sniper4625 posted:Stormtroopers are intended as elite shock troopers. Special training, special armor, etc.
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Torael_7 posted:The short version from the three books is a lot of convoluted subtlety and intrigue between "Kuat of Kuat" (the leader) and others who want his position and may or may not want to also stay aligned with the Empire. Boba Fett gets tangled up in all of this. At the end of the trilogy, Kuat of Kuat, who would rather see the shipyards burn than let someone else control them, is trying to blow them up. However, Fett, who wants answers, confronts him on the bridge of a mostly-finished Star Destroyer, through which the explosive sequence ran. After getting his answers he then single-handedly pilots the loving thing out of the shipyard, simultaneously saving his own skin and, oh yeah, earning a lot of gratitude from Kuat's successor, since without the destroyer in the chain, the destruction of the shipyards was only partially completed. You missed a few Kuat's there. In the BB thread, I believe he had him as Kuat of Kuat, the Kuat of Kuat from Kuat, Ruler of Kuat and leader of all the Kuat of Kuat. The word Kuat is apparently like Aloha, only instead of meaning both hello and goodbye, it means everything. Hmmm, only one of those "Kuat"s is kitting FF's spellcheck and incorrect.
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thrawn527 posted:You missed a few Kuat's there. In the BB thread, I believe he had him as Kuat of Kuat, the Kuat of Kuat from Kuat, Ruler of Kuat and leader of all the Kuat of Kuat. The word Kuat is apparently like Aloha, only instead of meaning both hello and goodbye, it means everything. Look man I was just trying to give a brief overview. 
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Torael_7 posted:Look man I was just trying to give a brief overview. Yeah, fair point. I just like bringing up Kuat8 whenever possible.
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T-1000 posted:That makes no sense. In the movies you don't see any army at all except in specialised mechanised units. And on the whole those units are more competent than stormtroopers or snowtroopers or sandtroopers. Why would you have elite strike teams bumming around on Tatooine, riding giant desert lizards? Those weren't just from Vader's star destroyers, they were locally based units. Considering they had an entire planet training the non clones and hidden ancient cloning machines spitting out really dumb ones for the super secret special projects they are hardly elite. I've only seen an actual Imperial Army guy outside an AT-ST in an EaW Mod and a scanned RPG source book image. gently caress Boba Fett, I want a Star Wars TV MASH style show looking at the Medics for these bozos. Also, amazing cross post: LA attack posted:Steam Wars, the next Infinities? SeanBeansShako fucked around with this message at 15:28 on Aug 26, 2010 |
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thrawn527 posted:Yeah, fair point. I just like bringing up Kuat8 whenever possible. I'm really tired of all these Kuating star wars
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thrawn527 posted:Yeah, fair point. I just like bringing up Kuat8 whenever possible. Kuat of Kuat, the Kuat of Kuat, Son of Kuat of Kuat, Kuat of all the Kuat of Kuat, Kuat of KDY (Kuat Drive Yards) located on Kuat of the Kuat System. [FIRST NAME] of [LAST NAME], the [LEADER] of [SOCIETY], Son of [FATHER'S NAME], [PATRIARCH] of all the [FAMILY MEMBERS] of [FAMILY], [EXECUTIVE TITLE] of [COMPANY NAME] located on [PLANET] of the [SYSTEM] Those books drove me quite insane.
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Slantedfloors posted:Those books drove me quite insane. The non-Kuat stuff was pretty good. I don't get all the hate, then again, when I read them, I just skimmed over everything Kuat-related.
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T-1000 posted:That makes no sense. In the movies you don't see any army at all except in specialised mechanised units. And on the whole those units are more competent than stormtroopers or snowtroopers or sandtroopers. Why would you have elite strike teams bumming around on Tatooine, riding giant desert lizards? Those weren't just from Vader's star destroyers, they were locally based units. Its not like they are running OUT of stormtroopers. They can send them to any flashpoint or difficult to pacify world, like tattooine which is most controlled by a gangster and his cronies. The movies only show us flashpoints, not true backwater worlds where no one cares about the Empire, or any significant pitched battles for planets with strategic significance. Bottom line is in the movies they thought stormtroopers looked cool so hell yeah only show them! However for the purposes of novels, a difference was required, hell I think its even mentioned in the original novelizations stormtroopers are elite.
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SeanBeansShako posted:Also, amazing cross post: 
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Big Mean Jerk posted:This is worse than Ewoks, Jar-Jar, and Trioculous combined. Just remember, that picture isn't canon. Those three things you just mentioned are.
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Aug 26, 2010 16:40
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Big Mean Jerk posted:This is worse than Ewoks, Jar-Jar, and Trioculous combined. You gonna tell me that Steam Punk Tarkin isn't the classiest motherfucker you've ever seen? Look at that dude! He's approaching Lando levels of Pimp!
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Crowetron posted:Steam Punk
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Crowetron posted:You gonna tell me that Steam Punk Tarkin isn't the classiest motherfucker you've ever seen? Look at that dude! He's approaching Lando levels of Pimp! Gotta have the pimp cane:  (I don't know why he's just some guy with a tan though.)
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deathsuxdontdie posted:Not according to the movies. This is one of my biggest beefs with the EU. They're just lovely blaster fodder in the movies, why try to explain it any further than that? Eh, if you think about it, they're the shock troops used in important poo poo - boarding the Tantive IV, storming the detention block, storming Hoth base - whilst the regular troopers guarding cells on Death Stars and drag choked captains out of Vader's office. There's a mixture of the two on Endor reflecting there are two levels of troopers, and the Stormtroopers are the more proficient of the two.
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DougieC posted:Eh, if you think about it, they're the shock troops used in important poo poo - boarding the Tantive IV, storming the detention block, storming Hoth base - whilst the regular troopers guarding cells on Death Stars and drag choked captains out of Vader's office. Stormtroopers are also strangely competent when not fighting the main characters or cuddly merchandise fodder. They wipe out the Tantive IV security complement in about eight seconds and have broken through the defenses inside the Hoth Base before the good guys can evacuate.
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WoodrowSkillson posted:Its not like they are running OUT of stormtroopers. They are now, you can thank Kyp Durron, self insert for that!
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SeanBeansShako posted:They are now, you can thank Kyp Durron, self insert for that! I keep trying to forget these things.
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Spergin' Time. I said it in the other Star Wars thread that there were like a poo poo ton of Sith running about in the GCW Era. Palps and Vader, The lost tribe of the sith and Darth Krayt's sith thing right? Or have I mixed things up? Either way too many sith.
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The EU was better when it was simply defined that Palpatine was the last Sith. Legacy of the Force completely threw all of that away.
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There should have been no jedi and no sith. Luke Skywalker, last jedi. Oh wait, his sister too. That's it. Finito. Vader killed everyone but those two as well as Yoda and Obi-wan. And if he didn't kill someone, whats-his-face in The Force Unleashed did before being eventually killed by Vader or whoever. By the time of A New Hope, every single jedi should have been dead. Because he's Darth Vader, his midichlorians are OFF THE CHARTS, he'd use his awesome powers of evil to detect the location of any surviving jedi/sith, and he's got a spaceship several kilometres long and if he wants to he can just burn the atmosphere off any planet he suspects has a jedi/sith on it. Maybe even if they don't have a jedi but they give him attitude. No other secret apprentices, no jedi who escaped, no lurking sith, no illegitimate lovechildren of the Emperor or Vader or Obi-Wan or whoever. Every other force-powered freak was pushing up daisies. Vader found them and killed them because that's what he does. It's all he does. The only exceptions allowed are anyone you fight in Dark Forces 2.
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Here's a question for you. Does everyone in the EU (including the general public) ever find out that Luke and Leia are siblings? Or that Darth Vader used to be their father? Just kinda curious to know how that would turn out for them. Or is it just a select few people that know about this?
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momtartin posted:Here's a question for you. Does everyone in the EU (including the general public) ever find out that Luke and Leia are siblings? Or that Darth Vader used to be their father? Just kinda curious to know how that would turn out for them. Or is it just a select few people that know about this? Siblings I'm pretty sure is well known, though I really don't know about Vader (it's been years, really.)
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momtartin posted:Here's a question for you. Does everyone in the EU (including the general public) ever find out that Luke and Leia are siblings? Or that Darth Vader used to be their father? Just kinda curious to know how that would turn out for them. Or is it just a select few people that know about this? Everyone in the galaxy knows that Luke and Leia are siblings and that Vader was their father.
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SeanBeansShako posted:Considering they had an entire planet training the non clones and hidden ancient cloning machines spitting out really dumb ones for the super secret special projects they are hardly elite. I love how steampunk Chewie is pretty much regular Chewie
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Rough Lobster posted:I love how steampunk Chewie is pretty much regular Chewie He kind of looks like the Shadows of the Empire Chewie action figure.
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Rough Lobster posted:I love how steampunk Chewie is pretty much regular Chewie Except it looks like he's wearing pants for some reason.
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