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Why doesn't he stop lightning-ing himself when it starts melting his face, or was he trying to make some kind of point? I'm pretty sure he had won over Anakin at that point without having to permanently disfigure himself. Plain Cheese Pizza fucked around with this message at 08:05 on Aug 30, 2010 |
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Lobster Fancy posted:Why doesn't he stop lightning-ing himself when it starts melting his face, or was he trying to make some kind of point? I'm pretty sure he had won over Anakin at that point without having to permanently disfigure himself. Yes but he was trying to convince Anakin that he was the one being attacked 
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Aug 30, 2010 08:06
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Kazy posted:Yes but he was trying to convince Anakin that he was the one being attacked Really? Its been a while since I've watched it, but Anakin did seem like kind of an idiot to begin with.
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Aug 30, 2010 08:09
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It was always my impression that the force of being hit by the lightning made him unable to stop projecting said lightning, but then again I don't have the novelization so it's possible that it is explained there. I do have the novelizations of the OT and, for some reason, Phantom Menace. Is TPM's novelization worth reading? Will I hate it as much as the movie?
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Aug 30, 2010 08:35
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^^ TPM's novelisation is far better than the movie. It gives more character to Qui-gon, and removes several tons of Jar-Jar's retarded slapstick.Throb Robinson posted:This is the most hilarious stretching for reasons thing Ive seen in a while. The best one is just a few lines down; quote:Why do you love the prequels? To paraphrase: I like the prequels because they keep SW fanboyism going.
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Aug 30, 2010 11:46
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That's great coming from Kyle Newman, considering Fanboys was worse than any of the prequels.
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Aug 30, 2010 12:29
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Chairman Capone posted:That's great coming from Kyle Newman, considering Fanboys was worse than any of the prequels. I liked Fanboys  Least it was no Holiday Special.
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Aug 30, 2010 13:07
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Lobster Fancy posted:I wonder how he feels about those live action Ewok movies. I was young enough to see the holiday special but not totally remember it. The Ewok movies however.... It was horrible. It was the 80s, a new Star Wars movie was going to be on TV. I tried to convince myself that what I just saw was good. I mean, it was Star Wars right? Soon after, I found out Santa wasn't real and I didn't even care.
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Aug 30, 2010 14:22
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The second ewok movie is pretty freaking brutal for a kids' movie. The girl's entire family is murdered by zombie-looking dudes in the first five minutes. And you know they're dead for sure because the wristband says so. Deathtek Wristbands: breaking hearts since 10392 BBY.
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Aug 30, 2010 16:26
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Speaking of novelizations, how are the ones for the original trilogy? I've always thought about giving them a read. Anything bizarre or contradicting of the prequels?
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Aug 30, 2010 19:57
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Not A Bear posted:I liked Fanboys Don't listen to him, the fat guy in Fanboys was hysterical and Kristen Bell makes everything delicious. Her as Slave Leia at the end of the movie pretty much makes the movie for me and I was enjoying it a lot until then too.
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Aug 30, 2010 20:50
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bubbles depo posted:Well, to be fair, had Obi-wan pushed him off, it's pretty likely Grievous would have pulled some kind of grappling hook or inspector-gadget helicopter out of his rear end and gotten away yet again. Yeah, like the one he used at the very beginning of the movie when he bailed out the front window of his space ship to escape. Kazy posted:Yes but he was trying to convince Anakin that he was the one being attacked He wasn't trying to convince Anakin that he was being attacked, because that was clearly the case. He was trying to convince Anakin that the Jedi were trying to take over the Republic in a coup against the government. And then he ALSO added in the possibility of Padme being doomed to death if he didn't live to help Anakin save her, thus creating a sense of irony when Anakin force chokes her into not wanting to live. There are less plot holes in the PT than most people are willing to admit.
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Aug 30, 2010 20:54
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TheOneTrueKing posted:Yeah, like the one he used at the very beginning of the movie when he bailed out the front window of his space ship to escape. That's why you throw him up into the air and crush him into a 5 inch ball. That whole fight was a huge excuse to sell lightsaber twirling Grevious toys and to get Obi-Wan to reference that thing he said in the original movie ("Clumsy, inelegant blaster" etc.").
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Aug 30, 2010 21:03
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Big Mean Jerk posted:That's why you throw him up into the air and crush him into a 5 inch ball. Or pick up something really heavy and drop it on him repeatedly.
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Aug 30, 2010 21:04
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Big Mean Jerk posted:That's why you throw him up into the air and crush him into a 5 inch ball. That whole fight was a huge excuse to sell lightsaber twirling Grevious toys and to get Obi-Wan to reference that thing he said in the original movie ("Clumsy, inelegant blaster" etc."). This probably wouldn't have worked, because Grievous has those magnets in his feet that allowed him to cling to the metal surface of the ship in the beginning of the movie as well. And crushing him with something very heavy would take a lot of force energy and time to manipulate (note: Yoda in AotC), and he is made of durasteel so it could probably endure such an attack if it were successful. 
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Aug 30, 2010 21:08
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Not A Bear posted:I liked Fanboys I probably would have enjoyed Fanboys a lot more if I hadn't spent three years waiting for it.
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Aug 30, 2010 21:13
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TheOneTrueKing posted:This probably wouldn't have worked, because Grievous has those magnets in his feet that allowed him to cling to the metal surface of the ship in the beginning of the movie as well. And crushing him with something very heavy would take a lot of force energy and time to manipulate (note: Yoda in AotC), and he is made of durasteel so it could probably endure such an attack if it were successful. Well then have Obi-Wan call in Wedge Antilles, Kyle Katarn, and Starkiller for backup so they can all completely destroy gently caress the PT.
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Aug 30, 2010 21:16
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Lobster Fancy posted:Speaking of novelizations, how are the ones for the original trilogy? I've always thought about giving them a read. Anything bizarre or contradicting of the prequels? I seem to recall that the books elude to the fact that Obi-Wan and Owen were brothers. That's the biggest thing I can think of.
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Aug 30, 2010 21:22
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Slantedfloors posted:Or pick up something really heavy and drop it on him repeatedly. The only 3 Jedi/Sith we saw ever able to pull off something like that in any of the movies were Vader, Sidious, and Yoda, three of some of the most powerful Force users ever. Again, gently caress the EU and cartoons for making every Jedi look like supermen/space wizards who control like a video game character quote:For me the 'Jedi not using the Force' thing is less 'they're not ending the battles in half a second with overpowered force powers' and more 'oh poo poo, we need to end this fight quickly - Force power'. You see it loads during the prequels and TV series. I'll agree that the fights are just horrible excuses to do fancy acrobatics, but I don't see how they are as bad as people are making them out to be. The force speed thing I'll give you, but you could argue that using it would probably require concentration/focus. Concentration/focus which a Jedi would probably need to keep from having a Sith hack him to pieces. As for Grievous, people have already given good explanations. WhyteRyce fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Aug 30, 2010 |
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In my mind, I always rationalized the lack of crazy Force usage in the OT duels (apart from ESB) as just two advanced users countering each other. Ie, Vader may be trying to choke Obiwan but the latter is countering it with his own ability. If one reaches out to throw something with the Force his opponent counters to prevent him. That's why Vader could pull welded metal off of walls and toss them in ESB--Luke couldn't stop him. Vader even says before they start that "The Force is strong with you...but you are not a Jedi yet"--implying that he could already sense his inability to control the Force in combat. Also, I think in the Thrawn trilogy, someone (Lando?) talks Luke into confusing the minds of some enemy (TIE?) pilots which they mop up easily. But Luke senses he's dancing close to the dark side and says he can't do it again. That may be an alternative explanation for why Jedi don't turn straight to the force in combat. At least that would be one way of interpreting Yoda's teaching that a Jedi only uses the Force for defense. But my Star Wars experience is limited to the movies, Thrawn Trilogy, those books with that wanker Kyp, and kickass video games like TIE Fighter, X-Wing, and all things Kyle Katarn. Either I don't know anything about Star Wars or I got out of the EU in time to still be able to form decent explanations for things not starring Hayden Christensen. The more I read these threads, the more I think it's the latter. Ninja edit: Forgot KOTOR and SNES games. Hell, the Star Wars universe would be better off left to video game makers as long as you're relaxed about canon so that Starkiller comes off as just a Mary Sue and not the Messiah of the Gospel of Lucas. Sax Offender fucked around with this message at 22:12 on Aug 30, 2010 |
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TheOneTrueKing posted:He wasn't trying to convince Anakin that he was being attacked, because that was clearly the case. He was trying to convince Anakin that the Jedi were trying to take over the Republic in a coup against the government. And then he ALSO added in the possibility of Padme being doomed to death if he didn't live to help Anakin save her, thus creating a sense of irony when Anakin force chokes her into not wanting to live. No, Palpatine clearly wasn't being attacked. Anakin walked in past three dead Jedi to hear, "You are under arrest, my lord." Mace has Palpatine at lightsaber point, but he's demanding a surrender. He's not swinging. He's not even moving. We then get one line, ONE, which references the supposed Jedi takeover (which itself references back to ONE scene where Palpatine makes the accusation without a shred of evidence). Mace brings the conversation right back to the Sith. Keep in mind that the only reason he's even there is because Anakin told him that Palpatine was a Sith in the first place. Then comes the lightning. Mace blocks this with ease, and fry face just keeps hitting himself. I know Palpatine is trying to look sympathetic, but he ends up looking incompetent. Only after this does Mace suddenly lose all faith in the courts and demand a summary execution. This serves its purpose in forcing Anakin to take sides, but it comes completely out of left field. To quote himself from the previous film, as a jedi "he couldn't assassinate anyone. It's not in his character." Finally, Anakin's choking of Padme isn't irony. It's just stupidity. Murdering someone is pretty obviously the opposite of preventing them from dying. And Padme losing the will to live isn't touching. It's just poor writing.
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Derek Dominoe posted:That's why Vader could pull welded metal off of walls and toss them in ESB--Luke couldn't stop him. Vader even says before they start that "The Force is strong with you...but you are not a Jedi yet"--implying that he could already sense his inability to control the Force in combat. Vader also was clearly effected when he did that stunt too. The momentary lapses in concentration, or even just the pauses in his saber attack, were clearly visible. If Luke were anything more than an out-of-control, stupid hick who stumbled across a lightsaber, Vader could have been in trouble. Look at Dooku, a pretty powerful guy, when he busted out lightning for the first time. It wasn't just something he whipped out. If Obi and Anakin weren't incapacitated or if Yoda wasn't so far away, he probably would have gotten a saber to the face. WhyteRyce fucked around with this message at 22:34 on Aug 30, 2010 |
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Astribulus posted:And Padme losing the will to live isn't touching. It's just poor writing. Dr Floating Ball MD posted:she's 'lost the will to live'?! What's your degree in? Poetry? Oh, don't use the billions of dollars worth of medical equipment we have on hand here, we'll just get on our knees and pray!
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Aug 30, 2010 23:06
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They wouldn't need to execute him if only Mace Windu had heard of a little thing called YSALIMIRI. [/EU Scholar]
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Epi Lepi posted:Don't listen to him, the fat guy in Fanboys was hysterical and Kristen Bell makes everything delicious. Her as Slave Leia at the end of the movie pretty much makes the movie for me and I was enjoying it a lot until then too. The fat guy was just a bargain basement Jack Black. The filmmakers themselves were a third rate Kevin Smiths, and Kevin Smith sucks rear end. Unless that movie was the launch of a porno career for Kristen Bell there's not much going for it.
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I figured the prolonged self-lightninging was because the Dark Side lightning was fueled by rage and pain and poo poo and getting hit by your own lightning made him mad/hurt.
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Ograbme posted:I figured the prolonged self-lightninging was because the Dark Side lightning was fueled by rage and pain and poo poo and getting hit by your own lightning made him mad/hurt. The last part of that sentence kind of sounds like something from a junior novelization (the best novelizations, of course) The Chancellor was being hurt by his own lightning! He was very mad. "Help me, Anakin!" The Chancellor said. Anakin was confused.
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Wasn't the point to push Anakin to the dark side fully and make him Palpatines ally/puppet? If so, Anakin fearing that Mace was going to kill (accidentally or on purpose) 'the one person who can save Padme(tm)' probably made him do what he did to Mace Windu thus easing his fall to the dark side quite considerably - hes just killed a high ranking Jedi, whats the excuse for that going to be...? Also Palpatine is probably using the force to confuse Anakin, he will expect Anakin to lash out in fear to save Palpatine so he can help save Padme. Palpatine is only faking the hurt to make Anakin pressured into choosing now, he can probably stop whenever. Not saying its perfect, but it makes at least a lick of sense. Yeah Anakin is a bit retarded though... As for the whole using Force Powers while duelling. I read somewhere (forgive me if this is bullshit non canon) that it takes a lot of force ability to duel. Jedi/Sith use energy scoping out the other person, 'seeing' the fight unfold and trying to catch a glimpse at weakness. Im not saying its a great excuse, but there could literally be so much going on we cant see that force powers generally go out the window against two equal/closely matched opponents. Touchdown Boy fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Aug 31, 2010 |
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Aug 31, 2010 00:43
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Locutus Of Bored posted:The last part of that sentence kind of sounds like something from a junior novelization (the best novelizations, of course) I'd wager you a carton of blue space milk that's what's actually written in George's
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Aug 31, 2010 00:47
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From the Dragon*Con thread -Dragon*Con thread posted:Adult Themes in SW Now, I am GOING to this panel. Come hell or high water. Any requests for questions for me to ask? I'm already planning on asking if in their opinion, did Jabba rape Leia? Also, I so want to get Zahn's autograph on a novel. That would be amazing. Any people in this thread going to Dragon*Con?
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Ask them how hard it is to have more adult themes in Star Wars after the highly sexless Prequels. Or ask them if they think its even a good idea to have these themes in a adventure serial. I am curious to see what they say.
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Angry Midwesterner posted:Unless that movie was the launch of a porno career for Kristen Bell there's not much going for it.
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Casimir Radon posted:Now why hasn't there been porn of a girl in the slave bikini or with cinnamon bun hair? Obviously they couldn't call it anything close to Star Wars if they didn't want to start shelling out legal fees. I think there was some cheapy anime porn but I'd never watch it. Do you honestly believe that it doesn't already exist?
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Chaos Hippy posted:Do you honestly believe that it doesn't already exist?
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Chaos Hippy posted:Do you honestly believe that it doesn't already exist? If it does I haven't been able to find it. Same as ^^^, not counting Rule 34 stuff.
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Aug 31, 2010 04:49
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There is a full fledged Star Trek porn so I have no doubt there is a Star Wars one floating around somewhere.
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Well some checking reveals that they're working on it right now. There's been kind of an explosion in porn parodies lately so I guess it was inevitable. They're probably going to get sued too but what the hell.
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I'm just gonna assume it's a joke because Allston makes jokes in his books and Zahn is above that poo poo.
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WampaLord posted:From the Dragon*Con thread - A few years ago I saw Zahn, Stackpole, and Allston at a DragonCon panel and got autographs from all three. I actually got both Zahn and Stackpole to autograph my copy of By The Emperor's Hand (the Mara Jade comic they coauthored). I also got Zahn to autograph all five Thrawn books. They were all really nice guys - Allston cracked jokes, you could tell that Stackpole and Zahn were close friends in real life, Zahn would let people take pictures with him in the hallway, it was great.
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Finally found The Lando Calrissian Adventures. The small summaries read like it is Lando starring in a botched Happy Potter Novel. Lando Calrissian VS The Sorcerer of Tund!! I am enjoying it a lot so far though. I love the misadventures of Lando and Vuffi Raa.
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